---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/25/12: 48 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:57 AM - Re: Operation Axel complete! (Gary Boothe) 2. 04:09 AM - Re: Total time to build (Jerry Dotson) 3. 04:17 AM - Re: Re: Total time to build (Gary Boothe) 4. 04:30 AM - Re: Operation Axel complete! (helspersew@aol.com) 5. 04:51 AM - Re: Re: Total time to build (Jack Phillips) 6. 04:56 AM - Re: Operation Axel complete! (Jack Phillips) 7. 05:06 AM - Re: Operation Axel complete! (shad bell) 8. 05:08 AM - MERFI fly-in today (shad bell) 9. 05:35 AM - Re: Operation Axel complete! (Faith Maltese Kuri) 10. 08:14 AM - Re: Operation Axel complete! (Bill Princell) 11. 09:59 AM - Personal Recovery at 1 Month (Oscar Zuniga) 12. 12:51 PM - Re: Total time to build (taildrags) 13. 01:02 PM - Re: Total time to build (Jerry Dotson) 14. 01:25 PM - Re: Re: Total time to build (V Groah) 15. 02:34 PM - Re: Personal Recovery at 1 Month (airlion) 16. 02:36 PM - Re: Re: Total time to build (airlion) 17. 03:09 PM - FW: First Flight (Gary Boothe) 18. 03:17 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Ryan Mueller) 19. 03:37 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Jim Boyer) 20. 03:48 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Ken Bickers) 21. 04:16 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Robert Bush) 22. 04:23 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Gary Boothe) 23. 04:43 PM - Re: First Flight (Jerry Dotson) 24. 04:45 PM - First Flight of NX308MB (Gary Boothe) 25. 04:47 PM - Re: Operation Axel complete! (Ryan Mueller) 26. 05:06 PM - Re: Total time to build (Jerry Dotson) 27. 05:11 PM - Re: First Flight of NX308MB (Jerry Dotson) 28. 05:12 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Michael Groah) 29. 05:32 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Darrel Jones) 30. 05:47 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Darrel Jones) 31. 05:49 PM - Re: First Flight of NX308MB (dwilson) 32. 06:48 PM - Re: Re: Total time to build (Rick Schreiber) 33. 06:55 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Rick Schreiber) 34. 06:55 PM - Nicopress tools (John Greenlee) 35. 07:04 PM - corvair eyebrows (Rick Schreiber) 36. 07:17 PM - Re: Re: Total time to build (Ken Bickers) 37. 07:21 PM - Re: First Flight of NX308MB (curtdm(at)gmail.com) 38. 07:22 PM - Tail wheel check out. (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB) 39. 07:27 PM - Re: Tail wheel check out. (Ken Bickers) 40. 08:13 PM - Re: Tail wheel check out. (taildrags) 41. 08:14 PM - Re: First Flight of NX308MB (Jack Phillips) 42. 08:32 PM - Re: First Flight (Billy McCaskill) 43. 08:36 PM - Re: Tail wheel check out. (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB) 44. 08:39 PM - Re: Re: Tail wheel check out. (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB) 45. 09:02 PM - Re: Nicopress tools (biplan53) 46. 09:17 PM - MyKitplane (biplan53) 47. 09:39 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (shad bell) 48. 11:26 PM - Re: MyKitplane (Matthew) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:57:28 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete! Good job, Ryan! Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Operation Axel Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 6:58 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete! Hello good people, I am pleased to announce the results of Operation Axel! Your patience in awaiting this announcement is appreciated (I was waiting to receive and process the remaining contributions I knew were still on the way). Thank you on behalf of the organizers of Operation Axel, and most importantly on behalf of Kevin and Shelley, for the outpouring of support, well-wishes, prayers, and overall good karma that you all so generously gave. I am most excited to announce that due to the efforts of 46 contributors we have collected a grand total of $4,025.52! Once again, this unique brotherhood (and sisterhood) of Pietenpol builders, pilots, enthusiasts, and friends has demonstrated how fortunate we all are to be a part of it. Thank you all so very much! I have tonight issued the check electronically from the BoA account used to collect the contributions, and Kevin and Shelley should see it in their mailbox in about a week. I have included a screencap of the payment confirmation below. Since Operation Axel has drawn to a close, we are no longer asking for contributions. If any other contributions do show up in my mailbox after this point they will still be generously accepted and processed as before. Thank you all again, and have a great weekend! Ryan Inline image 1 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:21 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build From: "Jerry Dotson" Gary you sure work fast. My spiral bound notebook log showed over 3000 hours in November,2011 and I quit adding up the totals then. I work slooow. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 First flight June 16,2012 Started building July, 2009 21" wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381750#381750 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:57 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build It cost you less/hr then! I should have slowed down...;-) Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 4:09 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build --> Gary you sure work fast. My spiral bound notebook log showed over 3000 hours in November,2011 and I quit adding up the totals then. I work slooow. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 First flight June 16,2012 Started building July, 2009 21" wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381750#381750 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:30:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete! From: helspersew@aol.com To all those who gave and all those who gave well wishes many thanks for ma king this effort a success. I am sure this will be a blessing to Kevin and Shelley. This is a great and generous group of people I am proud to be a pa rt. A special thanks to Ryan Mueller for doing all the work. Good job! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:54 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build Yeah, my total was 2465 hours spaced out over 7-1/2 years. My total cost (not counting tools purchased) was $14, 960.58. How does that compare with others? Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 7:09 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build Gary you sure work fast. My spiral bound notebook log showed over 3000 hours in November,2011 and I quit adding up the totals then. I work slooow. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 First flight June 16,2012 Started building July, 2009 21" wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381750#381750 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:35 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete! So who was the cheapskate that contributed 52=A2? Everybody else apparently contributed some kind of multiple of $25. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Operation Axel Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:58 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete! Hello good people, I am pleased to announce the results of Operation Axel! Your patience in awaiting this announcement is appreciated (I was waiting to receive and process the remaining contributions I knew were still on the way). Thank you on behalf of the organizers of Operation Axel, and most importantly on behalf of Kevin and Shelley, for the outpouring of support, well-wishes, prayers, and overall good karma that you all so generously gave. I am most excited to announce that due to the efforts of 46 contributors we have collected a grand total of $4,025.52! Once again, this unique brotherhood (and sisterhood) of Pietenpol builders, pilots, enthusiasts, and friends has demonstrated how fortunate we all are to be a part of it. Thank you all so very much! I have tonight issued the check electronically from the BoA account used to collect the contributions, and Kevin and Shelley should see it in their mailbox in about a week. I have included a screencap of the payment confirmation below. Since Operation Axel has drawn to a close, we are no longer asking for contributions. If any other contributions do show up in my mailbox after this point they will still be generously accepted and processed as before. Thank you all again, and have a great weekend! Ryan Inline image 1 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:06 AM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete! Yes Ryan, Thank you for giving us all the means to give back to friends in need.- This is one outstanding group of people. - Shad --- On Sat, 8/25/12, helspersew@aol.com wrote: From: helspersew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete! - To all those who gave and all those who gave well wishes many thanks for ma king this effort a success. I am sure this will be a blessing to Kevin and Shelley. This is a great and generous group of people I am proud to be a pa rt. A special thanks to Ryan Mueller for doing all the work. Good job! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:03 AM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Pietenpol-List: MERFI fly-in today I am getting ready to blast off for MERFI in Urbana OH in 30 min, hope to s ee another piet or two over there.- I will be flying in with a C-140, and Spacewalker, if they will slow down. - Shad don't archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:58 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete! From: Faith Maltese Kuri Great job Ryan. Well handled and communicated. Maybe I'll make you the CFO of my company. LOL Faith -----Original Message----- From: Operation Axel Sent: Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:50 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete! Hello good people, I am pleased to announce the results of Operation Axel! Your patience in aw aiting this announcement is appreciated (I was waiting to receive and proce ss the remaining contributions I knew were still on the way). Thank you on behalf of the organizers of Operation Axel, and most important ly on behalf of Kevin and Shelley, for the outpouring of support, well-wish es, prayers, and overall good karma that you all so generously gave. I am m ost excited to announce that due to the efforts of 46 contributors we have collected a grand total of $4,025.52! Once again, this unique brotherhood ( and sisterhood) of Pietenpol builders, pilots, enthusiasts, and friends has demonstrated how fortunate we all are to be a part of it. Thank you all so very much! I have tonight issued the check electronically from the BoA account used to collect the contributions, and Kevin and Shelley should see it in their ma ilbox in about a week. I have included a screencap of the payment confirmat ion below. Since Operation Axel has drawn to a close, we are no longer aski ng for contributions. If any other contributions do show up in my mailbox a fter this point they will still be generously accepted and processed as bef ore. Thank you all again, and have a great weekend! Ryan ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:14:37 AM PST US From: Bill Princell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete! Hi Ryan: What an awesome group of people. Thanks for everything you did to make this a success. Bill - Sent: Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:50 pm > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete! > > Hello good people, > > I am pleased to announce the results of Operation Axel! Your patience in > awaiting this announcement is appreciated (I was waiting to receive and > process the remaining contributions I knew were still on the way). > > Thank you on behalf of the organizers of Operation Axel, and most > importantly on behalf of Kevin and Shelley, for the outpouring of support, > well-wishes, prayers, and overall good karma that you all so generously > gave. I am most excited to announce that due to the efforts of 46 > contributors we have collected a grand total of $4,025.52! Once again, this > unique brotherhood (and sisterhood) of Pietenpol builders, pilots, > enthusiasts, and friends has demonstrated how fortunate we all are to be a > part of it. Thank you all so very much! > > I have tonight issued the check electronically from the BoA account used > to collect the contributions, and Kevin and Shelley should see it in their > mailbox in about a week. I have included a screencap of the payment > confirmation below. Since Operation Axel has drawn to a close, we are no > longer asking for contributions. If any other contributions do show up in > my mailbox after this point they will still be generously accepted and > processed as before. > > Thank you all again, and have a great weekend! > > Ryan > > > [image: Inline image 1] > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:59:52 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Personal Recovery at 1 Month Kevin: if you get tired of sitting around and your leg gets to where it be nds=2C you can go down to San Geronimo=2C pick up Scout=2C and fly the airp lane up here to Oregon for me. Should only take 4 days. Mostly headwinds all the way=2C but you're just sitting around anyway=2C and now you're svel te enough to get in those crowded old cockpits again. You'll have to hand-prop the airplane about 20-30 times in the 4 days/2000 miles/35 flight hours that it takes to get up here but you'll be a better p ilot for it. We don't need no stinkin' electrics =3Bo) The bonus is that once you're up here=2C it's just a few hours up the highw ay to Aurora... home of Van's Aircraft. Bet you could get a test ride in a nice roomy 4-place RV-10 with glass panel=2C that would be SO much more en joyable to fly than a fussy taildragging stick-and-rag airplane with an old car engine on the front. do not archive Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Medford=2C OR ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:51:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build From: "taildrags" Jack; considering what you say you have in materials cost in your airplane and the fact that I bought Scout from Corky essentially new for $15,000, that means Corky and McKenley built it for free and Edwin did all the test flights for free. I think I got a good deal ;o) Moral of the story: buying a completed and flying Piet is a heckuva bargain. They are just SO much fun to build though! -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford/Ashland, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381798#381798 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:02:49 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build From: "Jerry Dotson" Mine was in the $15K neighborhood......$12,574.70 that don't count varnish, paint, masking paper and tape, and so forth. Nearly everything bought locally never made it to the spreadsheet. A trip to Tampa for the engine and Atlanta to get the bulk of ACS spruce, plywood and 4130 materials never made the ledger either. I flew my Piet over to a hurricane tested hangar this morning.Looks like we gonna get another one. We have not had a storm of any magnitude since I built my hangar. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 First flight June 16,2012 Started building July, 2009 21" wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381799#381799 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:25:08 PM PST US From: V Groah Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build Wow=2C you guys are really organized!!! We took about 4 1/2 or 5 years to finish ours. There were months when we did not have time to touch it=2C we eks that were at it like a job. It was a challenge and fun. I think Mike knows about how much was spent=2C sort of=2C as we split the cost as well as the labor. No clue as to how many hours. Who cares!! We had fun doing i t. Yes=2C it is much cheaper to just buy one but then you do not have the brag ging rights of having scratch built an airplane that actually flies. What is that worth?? Nothing to some=2C everything to others. I suspect all of us that actually finished one of these is proud of the accomplishment and also would do a few things differently the second time. I think none of us wants to have to do it over though. I bow down to those who have had the fortitude to do it. Thank all of you guys who have given us advice and encouragement over the y ears. You too have had a hand in building our plane. Vic NX414MV > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build > From: flight.jake@gmail.com > Date: Fri=2C 24 Aug 2012 22:34:05 -0700 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > m> > > Dang=2C nice job..... I'm about 4 years into it and think I'm only about halfway there...! (I am keeping track of hours but have not added them up) > > Well done Gary... > > Do not archive > > -------- > Jake Schultz - curator=2C > Newport Way Air Museum (OK=2C it's just my home) > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381741#381741 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:34:05 PM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Personal Recovery at 1 Month shame on your comments Oscar. Gardiner=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________ __________=0AFrom: Oscar Zuniga =0ATo: Pietenpol Lis t =0ASent: Sat, August 25, 2012 1:00:17 PM=0A Subject: Pietenpol-List: Personal Recovery at 1 Month=0A=0A=0AKevin:- if you get tired of sitting around and your leg gets to where it bends, =0Ayou can go down to San Geronimo, pick up Scout, and fly the airplane up here t o =0AOregon for me.- Should only take 4 days.- Mostly headwinds all the way, but =0Ayou're just sitting around anyway, and now you're svelte enoug h to get in those =0Acrowded old cockpits again.=0A-=0AYou'll have to han d-prop the airplane about 20-30 times in the 4 days/2000 =0Amiles/35 flight hours that it takes to get up here but you'll be a better pilot =0Afor it. - We don't need no stinkin' electrics ;o)=0A-=0AThe bonus is that once you're up here, it's just a few hours up the highway to =0AAurora... home o f Van's Aircraft.- Bet you could get a test ride in a nice roomy =0A4-pla ce RV-10 with glass panel,-that would be SO much more enjoyable to fly th an =0Aa fussy taildragging stick-and-rag airplane with an old car engine on the front.=0A-=0Ado not archive=0A-=0AOscar Zuniga=0AAir Camper NX41CC = =0A ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:36:44 PM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build Jerry , hows it flying? And how many hours do you have on it? Gardiner ----- Original Message ---- From: Jerry Dotson Sent: Sat, August 25, 2012 4:03:08 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build Mine was in the $15K neighborhood......$12,574.70 that don't count varnish, paint, masking paper and tape, and so forth. Nearly everything bought locally never made it to the spreadsheet. A trip to Tampa for the engine and Atlanta to get the bulk of ACS spruce, plywood and 4130 materials never made the ledger either. I flew my Piet over to a hurricane tested hangar this morning.Looks like we gonna get another one. We have not had a storm of any magnitude since I built my hangar. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 First flight June 16,2012 Started building July, 2009 21" wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381799#381799 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:50 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight List, I just posted this to family, and personal friends. To this list, I wish to add the following: I have not yet flown it, myself, for various reasons. Test pilot, Roy Richardson, flying a Pietenpol for the first time, reported that it flies beautifully, even hands off; this despite what we thought was a malfunctioning ASI. Since he was unsure of his airspeed (turns out he was cruising at 65mph), he tended to be a little conservative, and the engine being a little tight, oil temp was high. More later, as I work thru some stuff. Gary Boothe NX308MB From: Gary Boothe [mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:59 PM Reinthaler; 'wreinthaler@lwsupply.com'; Mary Neal; Natalie Boothe (flygirl5479@comcast.net); randy.farmer (randy.farmer@att.net); Richard Vetterli; Ryan Boothe; Sara Peitzmeier; Vicki Boothe; Woodymsi@aol.com; WilliamTCA@aol.com; whotchkiss@lwsupply.com; 'Brett Henry (Dryvit)' (brett.henry@dryvit.com); 'mbrand@lwsupply.com'; 'tstokely@lwsupply.com'; cpaterson@lwsupply.com; 'anelms@lwsupply.com'; 'gblanco@lwsupply.com'; 'Mike Studer'; Mike Weaver; lrtiger@sbcglobal.net; 'Mark.clough@fellertusa.com'; Kevin McDonald; 'jake@lightcreteinc.com'; 'cfagundes@lwsupply.com'; 'smwaud@gmail.com' Subject: First Flight Family & Friends (If you ever expressed an interest in my project, even if you faked interest, you made it to the Family & Friends List!..and, if you have received this circuitously, and think you should have been on the list, my apologies!), Here is a picture taken in 1972 at a fly-in/airshow in Madera, Ca., where I had flown my recently restored Taylorcraft BC12-D (inset). I was 19 years old.and hung-over for the first time (its own bittersweet story!). Bad as my headache was, I wasn't in such poor shape that I couldn't recognize the simple beauty of a Pietenpol, telling myself, "Someday." For those who may not know, this airplane was designed by Bernard Pietenpol in 1927. It has always only existed as a set of plans, by which aviation experimenters have been building Pietenpols around the world for the past 80+ years. Fast forward 40 years, after realizing the futility of staying in aviation and raising a family since 1985, my dream of building & flying that simple little airplane has been finally fulfilled! This airplane is a tribute to my father, a die-hard do-it-yourselfer. The FAA 'N' number, NX308MB, contains his initials, along with the month and year of his passing, which, not without coincidence, is the month and year that I began work on the Pietenpol. I miss you, Dad. FAA airworthiness inspection & certificate was granted on August 8, 2012, and first flight was today, August 25, 2012, by test pilot, Roy Richardson, without incident. Construction is wood and fabric, powered by a Corvair engine and my own hand-carved prop! This initial flight will be followed by 40 hours of solo test flight where I will establish the parameters of the aircraft operation (which is a fancy way of saying, "Stay in the air, when you want to.Land, when & where you want to.) Gary Boothe NX308MB ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:17:26 PM PST US From: Ryan Mueller Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight Congratulations Gary! Ryan Mueller rmueller23@gmail.com On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:09 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > List, > > I just posted this to family, and personal friends. To this list, I wish to add the following: > > I have not yet flown it, myself, for various reasons. Test pilot, Roy Richardson, flying a Pietenpol for the first time, reported that it flies beautifully, even hands off; this despite what we thought was a malfunctioning ASI. Since he was unsure of his airspeed (turns out he was cruising at 65mph), he tended to be a little conservative, and the engine being a little tight, oil temp was high. > > More later, as I work thru some stuff=85 > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:37:01 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight Congratulations Gary; you have a beautiful Piet. Frazier Lake will=C2- be neat this year with three local Piets; yours, Mike and Vics and Charlies. Cheers, Jim B. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:48:57 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight From: Ken Bickers What a special day. Congratulations!!! On Aug 25, 2012, at 4:09 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > List, > > I just posted this to family, and personal friends. To this list, I wish t o add the following: > > I have not yet flown it, myself, for various reasons. Test pilot, Roy Rich ardson, flying a Pietenpol for the first time, reported that it flies beauti fully, even hands off; this despite what we thought was a malfunctioning ASI . Since he was unsure of his airspeed (turns out he was cruising at 65mph), h e tended to be a little conservative, and the engine being a little tight, o il temp was high. > > More later, as I work thru some stuff > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > From: Gary Boothe [mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net] > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:59 PM > To: Gail Boothe; Jan Bagnall; Jeff Zember; Jorge Busso; Leigh Ann Reinthal er; 'wreinthaler@lwsupply.com'; Mary Neal; Natalie Boothe (flygirl5479@comca st.net); randy.farmer (randy.farmer@att.net); Richard Vetterli; Ryan Boothe; Sara Peitzmeier; Vicki Boothe; Woodymsi@aol.com; WilliamTCA@aol.com; whotch kiss@lwsupply.com; 'Brett Henry (Dryvit)' (brett.henry@dryvit.com); 'mbrand@ lwsupply.com'; 'tstokely@lwsupply.com'; cpaterson@lwsupply.com; 'anelms@lwsu pply.com'; 'gblanco@lwsupply.com'; 'Mike Studer'; Mike Weaver; lrtiger@sbcgl obal.net; 'Mark.clough@fellertusa.com'; Kevin McDonald; 'jake@lightcreteinc. com'; 'cfagundes@lwsupply.com'; 'smwaud@gmail.com' > Subject: First Flight > > Family & Friends (If you ever expressed an interest in my project, even if you faked interest, you made it to the Family & Friends List!..and, if you h ave received this circuitously, and think you should have been on the list, m y apologies!), > > > > Here is a picture taken in 1972 at a fly-in/airshow in Madera, Ca., where I had flown my recently restored Taylorcraft BC12-D (inset). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was 19 years oldand hung-over for the first time (its own bitte rsweet story!). Bad as my headache was, I wasn=99t in such poor shape t hat I couldn=99t recognize the simple beauty of a Pietenpol, telling m yself, =9CSomeday=9D For those who may not know, this a irplane was designed by Bernard Pietenpol in 1927. It has always only existe d as a set of plans, by which aviation experimenters have been building Piet enpols around the world for the past 80+ years. > > Fast forward 40 years, after realizing the futility of staying in aviation and raising a family since 1985, my dream of building & flying that simple l ittle airplane has been finally fulfilled! This airplane is a tribute to my f ather, a die-hard do-it-yourselfer. The FAA =98N=99 number, NX30 8MB, contains his initials, along with the month and year of his passing, wh ich, not without coincidence, is the month and year that I began work on the Pietenpol. I miss you, Dad > > > > FAA airworthiness inspection & certificate was granted on August 8, 2012, and first flight was today, August 25, 2012, by test pilot, Roy Richardson, without incident. Construction is wood and fabric, powered by a Corvair eng ine and my own hand-carved prop! This initial flight will be followed by 40 h ours of solo test flight where I will establish the parameters of the aircra ft operation (which is a fancy way of saying, =9CStay in the air, when you want toLand, when & where you want to.) > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:16:47 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight From: Robert Bush Congratulations Gary. It only gets better from here! Randy Bush NX294RB Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > Congratulations Gary! > > Ryan Mueller > rmueller23@gmail.com > > > > > On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:09 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > >> List, >> >> I just posted this to family, and personal friends. To this list, I wish t o add the following: >> >> I have not yet flown it, myself, for various reasons. Test pilot, Roy Ric hardson, flying a Pietenpol for the first time, reported that it flies beaut ifully, even hands off; this despite what we thought was a malfunctioning AS I. Since he was unsure of his airspeed (turns out he was cruising at 65mph), he tended to be a little conservative, and the engine being a little tight, oil temp was high. >> >> More later, as I work thru some stuff >> >> Gary Boothe >> NX308MB > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:23:11 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight Thanks, Randy! I have a question for you, but can=99t see your email herecan you contact me off-list? Gboothe5@comcast.net Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Bush Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight Congratulations Gary. It only gets better from here! Randy Bush NX294RB Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote: Congratulations Gary! Ryan Mueller rmueller23@gmail.com On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:09 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: List, I just posted this to family, and personal friends. To this list, I wish to add the following: I have not yet flown it, myself, for various reasons. Test pilot, Roy Richardson, flying a Pietenpol for the first time, reported that it flies beautifully, even hands off; this despite what we thought was a malfunctioning ASI. Since he was unsure of his airspeed (turns out he was cruising at 65mph), he tended to be a little conservative, and the engine being a little tight, oil temp was high. More later, as I work thru some stuff Gary Boothe NX308MB ========= >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========= cs.com ========= matronics.com/contribution ========= ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:43:20 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: First Flight From: "Jerry Dotson" I am so proud for you Gary. It's gonna be fun! -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 First flight June 16,2012 Started building July, 2009 21" wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381822#381822 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 04:45:21 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Flight of NX308MB Better video is forth coming from another source. http://youtu.be/KE1lDlGO_P8 Gary Boothe NX308MB ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 04:47:07 PM PST US From: Ryan Mueller Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Operation Axel complete! Spoke too soon=85.47 contributors and $4,275.52. :) Thanks everyone! Ryan Mueller operationaxel@gmail.com ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:06:22 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build From: "Jerry Dotson" Gardiner it is better than my wildest imagination. I have 22 hours on it now. When the weather dries up some I will pick up the pace some. It rained the last 2 weeks of July and over 2 weeks in August. It is dry now and I flew this morning. Dog gone hurricane coming now. It will be next Thursday at best before I fly again. How is your Piet coming along? -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 First flight June 16,2012 Started building July, 2009 21" wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381825#381825 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:11 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: First Flight of NX308MB From: "Jerry Dotson" That was a 19 second teaser Buddy. Sounded and looked good. More? -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 First flight June 16,2012 Started building July, 2009 21" wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381826#381826 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 05:12:04 PM PST US From: Michael Groah Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight Awesome!...=C2- I'm so excited for you.=C2- It actually flies!=C2- I cant' wait to see it for myself.=0A=0A=0AMike Groah=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_________ _______________________=0A From: Gary Boothe =0ATo: p ietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 3:09 PM=0ASu bject: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight=0A =0A=0AList,=0A=C2-=0AI just po sted this to family, and personal friends. To this list, I wish to add the following:=0A=C2-=0AI have not yet flown it, myself, for various reasons. Test pilot, Roy Richardson, flying a Pietenpol for the first time, reporte d that it flies beautifully, even hands off; this despite what we thought w as a malfunctioning ASI. Since he was unsure of his airspeed (turns out he was cruising at 65mph), he tended to be a little conservative, and the engi ne being a little tight, oil temp was high. =0A=C2-=0AMore later, as I wo rk thru some stuff=0A=C2-=0AGary Boothe=0ANX308MB=0A=C2-=0AFro m:Gary Boothe [mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net] =0ASent: Saturday, August 25, 2 012 2:59 PM=0ATo: Gail Boothe; Jan Bagnall; Jeff Zember; Jorge Busso; Leigh Ann Reinthaler; 'wreinthaler@lwsupply.com'; Mary Neal; Natalie Boothe (fly girl5479@comcast.net); randy.farmer (randy.farmer@att.net); Richard Vetterl i; Ryan Boothe; Sara Peitzmeier; Vicki Boothe; Woodymsi@aol.com; WilliamTCA @aol.com; whotchkiss@lwsupply.com; 'Brett Henry (Dryvit)' (brett.henry@dryv it.com); 'mbrand@lwsupply.com'; 'tstokely@lwsupply.com'; cpaterson@lwsupply .com; 'anelms@lwsupply.com'; 'gblanco@lwsupply.com'; 'Mike Studer'; Mike We aver; lrtiger@sbcglobal.net; 'Mark.clough@fellertusa.com'; Kevin McDonald; 'jake@lightcreteinc.com'; 'cfagundes@lwsupply.com'; 'smwaud@gmail.com'=0ASu bject: First Flight=0A=C2-=0AFamily & Friends (If you ever expressed an i nterest in my project, even if you faked interest, you made it to the Famil y & Friends List!..and, if you have received this circuitously, and think y ou should have been on the list, my apologies!), =0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2 -=0AHere is a picture taken in 1972 at a fly-in/airshow in Madera, Ca., w here I had flown my recently restored Taylorcraft BC12-D (inset). =0A=C2- =0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2- =0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A =C2-=0A=C2-=0A=0AI was 19 years oldand hung-over for the first time (its own bittersweet story!). Bad as my headache was, I wasn=99 t in such poor shape that I couldn=99t recognize the simple beauty of a Pietenpol, telling myself, =9CSomeday=9D For those who may not know, this airplane was designed by Bernard Pietenpol in 1927. It has always only existed as a set of plans, by which aviation experimente rs have been building Pietenpols around the world for the past 80+ years. =0A=C2-=0AFast forward 40 years, after realizing the futility of staying in aviation and raising a family since 1985, my dream of building & flying that simple little airplane has been finally fulfilled! This airplane is a tribute to my father, a die-hard do-it-yourselfer. The FAA =98N =99 number, NX308MB, contains his initials, along with the month and year o f his passing, which, not without coincidence, is the month and year that I began work on the Pietenpol. I miss you, Dad=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A FAA=C2- airworthiness inspection & certificate was granted on August 8, 2 012, and first flight was today, August 25, 2012, by test pilot, Roy Richar dson, without incident. Construction is wood and fabric, powered by a Corva ir engine and my own hand-carved prop! This initial flight will be followed by 40 hours of solo test flight where I will establish the parameters of t he aircraft operation (which is a fancy way of saying, =9CStay in the air, when you want toLand, when & where you want to.)=0A=C2-=0A Gary Boothe=0ANX308MB ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 05:32:49 PM PST US From: Darrel Jones Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 05:47:41 PM PST US From: Darrel Jones Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight Gary, As Homer Simpson would say, "Woo-hoo!" Break out the donuts! Congratulations! Darrel (Second try. Looks like the first didn't go through) On 8/25/2012 3:09 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > > List, > > I just posted this to family, and personal friends. To this list, I > wish to add the following: > > I have not yet flown it, myself, for various reasons. Test pilot, Roy > Richardson, flying a Pietenpol for the first time, reported that it > flies beautifully, even hands off; this despite what we thought was a > malfunctioning ASI. Since he was unsure of his airspeed (turns out he > was cruising at 65mph), he tended to be a little conservative, and the > engine being a little tight, oil temp was high. > > More later, as I work thru some stuff... > > Gary Boothe > > NX308MB > > ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 05:49:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: First Flight of NX308MB From: "dwilson" Gary. Way to go! Looks and sounds real nice my friend. She is a fine ship as Bernie would say! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381833#381833 ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 06:48:09 PM PST US From: Rick Schreiber Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build For me as well as others I'm sure, the building journey was fantastic. Could I have bought a project or a completed Piet and saved my labor, certainly but that was not the point. I knew going into this project that my labor was for free, I was building a plane for the sheer enjoyment. Now that the the project is coming to an end after roughly ten years, I would like to start on another. Regards, Rick Schreiber Valparaiso, IN ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 06:55:07 PM PST US From: Rick Schreiber Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight Wow Gary!....... I cant even imagine how this first flight felt. Congratulations! Regards, Rick Schreiber ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 06:55:08 PM PST US From: "John Greenlee" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Nicopress tools Hello all, When I originally built the Pietenpol, I used a manual swaging tool - I think it is called a Swage-it. It is the one where you tighten some bolts to crush the sleeves. I am interested in getting a bolt-cutter style swaging tool. The only sizes I should need to swage are 1/16, 3/32, and 1/8. I see a lot of previously owned Nicopress tools on ebay. However, I do not know how to identify the correct model number to do what I want to do. These should be relatively plentiful as they are really a telephone company technology. Does anybody have any information and experience on which model to get? Thanks! JMG ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 07:04:43 PM PST US From: Rick Schreiber Subject: Pietenpol-List: corvair eyebrows Thanks to Oscar, Kevin, Randy and Gary for the response about the size of the eyebrows for a corvair installation. It looks like 4.5 inches is about the right height. Rick Schreiber Valparaiso, IN ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build From: Ken Bickers 12 step program ... my name is Rick. It has be three days and six hours since I last cut a gusset. On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Rick Schreiber wrote: > > For me as well as others I'm sure, the building journey was fantastic. Could > I have bought a project or a completed Piet and saved my labor, certainly > but that was not the point. I knew going into this project that my labor was > for free, I was building a plane for the sheer enjoyment. Now that the the > project is coming to an end after roughly ten years, I would like to start > on another. > > Regards, > Rick Schreiber > Valparaiso, IN > > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 07:21:52 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: First Flight of NX308MB From: "curtdm(at)gmail.com" That's Awesome Gary! -------- Curt Merdan Flower Mound, TX Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381842#381842 ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:58 PM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail wheel check out. Well, this morning we had a small break from high winds and thunderstorms, so I was able to get my tailwheel checkout. The plane was a 1947 Aeronca 7AC Champ with no electrics (and prop and handheld radio) and 65 roaring HP. The instructor, Vern Foster (95 Years Old) has somewhere around 6000 hours of tailwheel time. He started flying in 1939. Checkout took an hour with 8 landings. First thing he did was pull the engine at 30 feet and made me simulate a engine out landing. Then three point landings and wheel landings. Then cross wind TO and landings. The last thing was taxiing with the brakes on hard and the power up. This was to prepare me for landing in very high winds. He said I did well and complemented my instructor (Lonnie Gillespie) on doing a fine job. YA HOO! Blue Skies, Steve "taildragger" D. ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 07:27:35 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail wheel check out. From: Ken Bickers Way to go, Steve. I bet Vern has some good stories. Cheers, Ken On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB wrote: > > Well, this morning we had a small break from high winds and thunderstorms, so I was able to get my tailwheel checkout. > > The plane was a 1947 Aeronca 7AC Champ with no electrics (and prop and handheld radio) and 65 roaring HP. > > The instructor, Vern Foster (95 Years Old) has somewhere around 6000 hours of tailwheel time. He started flying in 1939. > > Checkout took an hour with 8 landings. First thing he did was pull the engine at 30 feet and made me simulate a engine out landing. Then three point landings and wheel landings. Then cross wind TO and landings. The last thing was taxiing with the brakes on hard and the power up. This was to prepare me for landing in very high winds. He said I did well and complemented my instructor (Lonnie Gillespie) on doing a fine job. > > YA HOO! > > Blue Skies, > Steve "taildragger" D. > > ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:20 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail wheel check out. From: "taildrags" Steve; Good on ya! Maybe if you catch me when I'm down at San Geronimo before I take the wings off of Scout, you can take 'er up! -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford/Ashland, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381848#381848 ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 08:14:17 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: First Flight of NX308MB Fantastic, Gary! The only thing better will be when you fly yourself this airplane that you built from scratch. There is NO better feeling in the world, including sex. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 7:40 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Flight of NX308MB Better video is forth coming from another source. http://youtu.be/KE1lDlGO_P8 Gary Boothe NX308MB ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 08:32:23 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: First Flight From: "Billy McCaskill" Way to go, Gary! Nice to see another shiny new Piet take to the skies. Brodhead in 2013? -------- Billy McCaskill Baker, LA tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381850#381850 ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 08:36:24 PM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail wheel check out. Vern has a great amount of aviation knowledge. He flew corporate and for the airlines. He related that the DC3/C47 was a great plane and after a 50 year break from flying it, He was able to do a greaser landing on his first landing. Describing the technique of holding brakes and using power, he kept a Lockheed Electra full of executives from flipping during a gust front. For 10 minutes, he held brakes, Throttled up, brought the tail up and kept the plane pinned to the tarmac. Then he taxied to takeoff. Great guy, I am very pleased to have his name in my log book. Blue Skies, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Bickers Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail wheel check out. > > Way to go, Steve. I bet Vern has some good stories. Cheers, Ken > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB > < wrote: > > > > Well, this morning we had a small break from high winds and thunderstorms, so I was able to get my tailwheel checkout. > > > > The plane was a 1947 Aeronca 7AC Champ with no electrics (and prop and handheld radio) and 65 roaring HP. > > > > The instructor, Vern Foster (95 Years Old) has somewhere around 6000 hours of tailwheel time. He started flying in 1939. > > > > Checkout took an hour with 8 landings. First thing he did was pull the engine at 30 feet and made me simulate a engine out landing. Then three point landings and wheel landings. Then cross wind TO and landings. The last thing was taxiing with the brakes on hard and the power up. This was to prepare me for landing in very high winds. He said I did well and complemented my instructor (Lonnie Gillespie) on doing a fine job. > > > > YA HOO! > > > > Blue Skies, > > Steve "taildragger" D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 44 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:14 PM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail wheel check out. Be careful what you offer. I am moving back to San Antonio this week and it looks like i have a hanger back at San Geronimo. I may get a chance to take you up on this offer. Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: taildrags Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail wheel check out. > > Steve; > > Good on ya! Maybe if you catch me when I'm down at San Geronimo before I take the wings off of Scout, you can take 'er up! > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford/Ashland, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381848#381848 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 45 ____________________________________ Time: 09:02:13 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nicopress tools From: "biplan53" Lowes has a tool for pressing sleeves on, you check that one out.[/b] -------- Building steel fuselage aircamper. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381854#381854 ________________________________ Message 46 ____________________________________ Time: 09:17:31 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: MyKitplane From: "biplan53" I must be barking up the wrong tree cause I still can't get Mykitplane, no matter how many times I try. -------- Building steel fuselage aircamper. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381855#381855 ________________________________ Message 47 ____________________________________ Time: 09:39:53 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight A BIG Congradulations Gary From Cool. - Shad --- On Sat, 8/25/12, Rick Schreiber wrote: From: Rick Schreiber Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight > Wow Gary!....... I cant even imagine how this- first flight felt. Congratulations! Regards, Rick Schreiber le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 48 ____________________________________ Time: 11:26:16 PM PST US From: Matthew Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: MyKitplane Just married!! 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