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1. 04:48 AM - landing gear (JOSEPH SWITHIN)
2. 05:23 AM - Re: landing gear (Gary Boothe)
3. 06:11 AM - Re: landing gear (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
4. 07:31 AM - Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions (tools)
5. 08:42 AM - Re: landing gear (echobravo4)
6. 08:53 AM - First Flight of VH-XHE (johnwoods@westnet.com.au)
7. 10:57 AM - Re: Re: what I would do differently, wing spars and other things (airlion)
8. 11:03 AM - Re: First Flight of VH-XHE (Jack Phillips)
9. 11:20 AM - Re: First Flight of VH-XHE (nightmare)
10. 11:30 AM - Re: First Flight of VH-XHE (nightmare)
11. 11:34 AM - Re: what I would do differently, wing spars and other things (kevinpurtee)
12. 11:54 AM - Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions (Mark Roberts)
13. 12:26 PM - Re: landing gear (Chris)
14. 01:33 PM - Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions (tools)
15. 01:40 PM - Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions (tools)
16. 01:53 PM - Re: Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions (Ryan Mueller)
17. 02:24 PM - Re: landing gear (Billy McCaskill)
18. 02:49 PM - Re: First Flight of VH-XHE (V Groah)
19. 03:23 PM - Re: Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions (Jack Phillips)
20. 04:08 PM - Re: landing gear (jarheadpilot82)
21. 05:41 PM - bottom fitting plate (Daniel Engelkenjohn)
22. 05:58 PM - Re: Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions (Jack Phillips)
23. 06:51 PM - Re: First Flight of VH-XHE (johnwoods@westnet.com.au)
24. 09:34 PM - Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions (Mark Roberts)
25. 09:35 PM - Re: bottom fitting plate (Chris)
26. 09:37 PM - Re: First Flight of VH-XHE (taildrags)
27. 09:55 PM - Re: Re: First Flight of VH-XHE?????// (jorge lizarraga)
28. 11:20 PM - Re: Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions (Clif Dawson)
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After looking at the Sky Scout and the Aircamper, today's question is: Would the
landing gear used on the Sky Scout work on the Aircamper? Has anyone tried this,
or is there a flaw/design issue that would not allow this to work?
Joe Swithin
Morris, IL
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Oooo.A Sky-camper! You take advantage of the fact that TC has left the
building, although I'm sure this is merely the Sunday morning musings of an
idle mind. Joe - Please explain yourself before you invoke the wrath of his
deputy, Safety Dan! I suspect that this falls into the category of 'some
things you just don't do', like pee into the wind, or kick sand in Chuck
Norris' face.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOSEPH
SWITHIN
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 4:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: landing gear
After looking at the Sky Scout and the Aircamper, today's question is: Would
the landing gear used on the Sky Scout work on the Aircamper? Has anyone
tried this, or is there a flaw/design issue that would not allow this to
work?
Joe Swithin
Morris, IL
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I looked at doing this -(not the peeing into the wind part) - The vertical
strut that goes up to the top longeron seems to be the problem for the airc
amper. The point that it meets the longeron in the scout is braced horizon
tally across the fuselage where as in the aircamper=2C it wouldn't be due t
o the location of the front seat. Of course this was after looking at it f
or 5-10 minutes so It's possible that I missed something and someone might
be able to figure something out.
Tom B.
From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: landing gear
Oooo=85A Sky-camper! You take advantage of the fact that TC has left the bu
ilding=2C although I=92m sure this is merely the Sunday morning musings of
an idle mind. Joe ' Please explain yourself before you invoke the wrath o
f his deputy=2C Safety Dan! I suspect that this falls into the category of
=91some things you just don=92t do=92=2C like pee into the wind=2C or kick
sand in Chuck Norris=92 face=85 Gary BootheNX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]
On Behalf Of JOSEPH SWITHIN
Sent: Sunday=2C September 09=2C 2012 4:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: landing gear After looking at the Sky Scout and th
e Aircamper=2C today's question is: Would the landing gear used on the Sky
Scout work on the Aircamper? Has anyone tried this=2C or is there a flaw/de
sign issue that would not allow this to work?
Joe Swithin
Morris=2C IL http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://foru
ms.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions |
Mine are about a half inch I'd say (I'm not where the plane is now to check for
sure).
That upper hole being located on the centerline of the longeron should set things
where they were designed to be.
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| Subject: | Re: landing gear |
yep-
been done
Walter Argenbright- pics on west coast piet
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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| Subject: | First Flight of VH-XHE |
Dear List,
I am please to report that o n Monday 27th August at 0700, Aircamper VH-XHE took
first flight with builder Graham Hewitt, aged 84, at the controls.
The 20 minute flight was completed safely at Jandakot airport in Western Australia.
This morning, 9th Sept at 0700, Graham took to the skies for a second time completing
two circuits and landing safely on the grass strip adjacent to the runway.
Those of you who have been on the list for a while may remember Graham. He started
the project about 7 years ago. The Pietenpol being his third homebuilt.
Graham is a retired airline pilot with many thousands of hours flying single and
multi engine conventional U/C aircraft and holds a low level aerobatic rating.
Graham's Aircamper is the long fuselage variant with Riblette 612 aerofoil and
powered by an O-235 Lycoming.
The wing, incorporating built-up spars and Piper style landing gear construction
are from Jim Wills plans. Graham has also incorporated a door for the front
seat.
Empty weight at 740lbs, initial flight reports indicate an excellent ROC and 85
kts at 2500 RPM with a 68x45 prop and at 33 kts she was still flying but had
a high ROD and wings stayed level.
Initial flight problem was a nose heavy tendency possibly caused by wash-in at
the tips of the stabiliser.
This was corrected prior to the second flight however back stick was still required
to keep the nose from dropping in level flight. To be resolved first before
more extensive flight testing can continue.
The wing is shifted back 2" from vertical and the CoG was with in range for the
612.
See attached photo of VH-XHE resting after her second flight.
Hopefully a video will be posted in time and I can provide updates as to flight
performance, especially for those interested in the 612.
Best regards,
John Woods
Perth, Western Australia
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| Subject: | Re: what I would do differently, wing spars and other |
things
Kevin, you might consider putting an aluminum pan for the back seat.. It confrms
to my bottom and is quiet comfy.. I did and it dropped me 1.5 inches. You might
try and figure out how you can do it to the front pit. I have a cut out in
the center section and that is where I anchor the front shoulder harness. It
also gives the right angle. The aluminum pan is also suggested b Tony Bengelis.
My center section fuel tank is 20.5 gallons and I drain from the front for flying
downhill and a drain in the back for flying uphill. Both drains flow down
with the tail on the ground to the gasculator. Cheers, Gardiner
--- On Thu, 9/6/12, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> wrote:
> From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: what I would do differently, wing spars and other
things
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Thursday, September 6, 2012, 11:48 AM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> by: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>
> So Oscar, you know that despite the fact that I'm recovering
> I can still kick your butt, right?:)
>
> Just kidding, of course.
>
> On the rebuild, we will do the following:
>
> - 3 piece wing,
> - Use a Gary Boothe fuel tank (~16 gallons),
> - Move the fuel tank filler port forward a little for ease
> of refueling,
> - Probably use the lightweight fabric as Jack mentioned,
> - Slant the back seat back a little as Jack mentioned,
> - Figure out a way to make Shelley more comfortable in the
> front seat, raise the seat, figure out better cushions,
> whatever,
> - Maybe raise the turtle deck an inch? We'll see,
> - Use fittings at the top of the rear cabanes as an attach
> point for the front seat shoulder harness attach cable vs.
> the through-the-cabane eyebolts we used,
> - Maybe use a head rest to raise the back seat shoulder
> harness,
> - I loved the brakes, but need to figure out a way to quit
> popping spokes. May just use Jack's design.
> We'll see,
> - Maybe a cutout in the wing?
> - Add a sump to the fuel tank, of course....
>
> I loved the airplane and it performed nicely. These
> are changes for convenience (except for the sump in the fuel
> tank, of course...).
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/San Marcos, TX
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| Subject: | First Flight of VH-XHE |
Excellent news, John and congratulations to Graham! It'll be interesting to
get the flight data from the Riblett, although with an O-235, a barn door
would produce a good climb rate.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
johnwoods@westnet.com.au
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 11:53 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Flight of VH-XHE
Dear List,
I am please to report that on Monday 27th August at 0700, Aircamper VH-XHE
took first flight with builder Graham Hewitt, aged 84, at the controls.
The 20 minute flight was completed safely at Jandakot airport in Western
Australia.
This morning, 9th Sept at 0700, Graham took to the skies for a second time
completing two circuits and landing safely on the grass strip adjacent to
the runway.
Those of you who have been on the list for a while may remember Graham. He
started the project about 7 years ago. The Pietenpol being his third
homebuilt.
Graham is a retired airline pilot with many thousands of hours flying single
and multi engine conventional U/C aircraft and holds a low level aerobatic
rating.
Graham's Aircamper is the long fuselage variant with Riblette 612 aerofoil
and powered by an O-235 Lycoming.
The wing, incorporating built-up spars and Piper style landing gear
construction are from Jim Wills plans. Graham has also incorporated a door
for the front seat.
Empty weight at 740lbs, initial flight reports indicate an excellent ROC and
85 kts at 2500 RPM with a 68x45 prop and at 33 kts she was still flying but
had a high ROD and wings stayed level.
Initial flight problem was a nose heavy tendency possibly caused by wash-in
at the tips of the stabiliser.
This was corrected prior to the second flight however back stick was still
required to keep the nose from dropping in level flight. To be resolved
first before more extensive flight testing can continue.
The wing is shifted back 2" from vertical and the CoG was with in range for
the 612.
See attached photo of VH-XHE resting after her second flight.
Hopefully a video will be posted in time and I can provide updates as to
flight performance, especially for those interested in the 612.
Best regards,
John Woods
Perth, Western Australia
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight of VH-XHE |
Thank you for the info John. pass along to Graham a hearty congrats on a beautiful
airplane.
there are around 10 or so (that i know of) who are planning, building, or flying
with the riblett wing. more are probably contemplating the option. I've been
gathering info about the setup but would love to get as much info as possible
so that we all can have our riblett piets setup correctly the first time if
at all possible. with that said, I'd like to request the following details.
1. are the fore and aft cabane struts the same length? (angle of incidence)
2. what cg range is Graham using?
3. how much does he or who ever was flight testing weigh?
4. are the motor mounts extended beyond standard?
5. nose tank, wing tank, or both? and were they all filled for test flight?
6. starter? battery location?
any other questions or enlightened facts that fellow Riblett piet builders would
like to pass along would also be helpful.
Hopefully you guys down under can give us the down low. Thanks; Paul
pauldonahuepilot(at)yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight of VH-XHE |
Oh yea; here's another;
7. did Graham build in any dihedral or washout?
Thanks; Paul
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| Subject: | Re: what I would do differently, wing spars and other |
things
@Oscar: at this point I couldn't catch you from 22 feet, much less 2200 miles.
Also, you bring up good points about having an adult beverage in hand. You're
a practical guy.
@Gardiner: thanks. Good ideas. Appreciate your thoughts.
do not archive
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions |
Thanks Tools!
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Joe
You mean something like this? One thing you learn after being involved with
Pietenpol for a while is, if you can think of it someone already tried it.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOSEPH
SWITHIN
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 4:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: landing gear
After looking at the Sky Scout and the Aircamper, today's question is: Would
the landing gear used on the Sky Scout work on the Aircamper? Has anyone
tried this, or is there a flaw/design issue that would not allow this to
work?
Joe Swithin
Morris, IL
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions |
An exception I can think of is if you're making wood struts or something and designed
those fittings differently than original and need the hole a little further
away from the longeron or something.
Also, there's a BUNCH of fittings on the plans for brace wiring where the hole
really isn't far enough away from the fuse to allow putting in the clevis pin
in the correct orientation (ie from the top) or easily. Knowing this ahead of
time and making them a tad longer (sometimes as little as a 1/4") would make
a world of difference.
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions |
kevinpurtee wrote:
> When you take your hand drill and use a technique called "wallering" to get the
bolts to go through...
Man ain't this the truth! In all fairness, will probably have to "waller" a bit
less though.
waller (n. wall-er latin) 1. art of making bolts fit close tolerance holes
sp. wallo, wallos, wallamos, wallas, wallan
Is it too late to get this in the Tony B. glossary of homebuilding terms?
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions |
You're just custom fitting each hole to the bolt....picking up the
slack from the manufacturing tolerances....ahem
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 9, 2012, at 3:45 PM, tools <n0kkj@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> kevinpurtee wrote:
>> When you take your hand drill and use a technique called "wallering" to get
the bolts to go through...
>
>
> Man ain't this the truth! In all fairness, will probably have to "waller" a
bit less though.
>
> waller (n. wall-er latin) 1. art of making bolts fit close tolerance holes
>
> sp. wallo, wallos, wallamos, wallas, wallan
>
> Is it too late to get this in the Tony B. glossary of homebuilding terms?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382763#382763
>
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| Subject: | Re: landing gear |
Pietenwhatinthheckisthat? I like his cargo pods on the lift struts, though.
--------
Billy McCaskill
Baker, LA
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | First Flight of VH-XHE |
It is great to hear of all these success stories. Gary in California=2C no
w another new one. Good stuff!!! Mike Groah is back in the air with his i
n California as well.
From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: First Flight of VH-XHE
Excellent news=2C John and congratulations to Graham! It=92ll be interesti
ng to get the flight data from the Riblett=2C although with an O-235=2C a b
arn door would produce a good climb rate.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake=2C Virginia
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of johnwoods@westnet.com.au
Sent: Sunday=2C September 09=2C 2012 11:53 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Flight of VH-XHE
Dear List=2C
I am please to report that on Monday 27th August at 0700=2C Aircamper VH-XH
E took first flight with builder Graham Hewitt=2C aged 84=2C at the control
s.
The 20 minute flight was completed safely at Jandakot airport in Western Au
stralia.
This morning=2C 9th Sept at 0700=2C Graham took to the skies for a second t
ime completing two circuits and landing safely on the grass strip adjacent
to the runway.
Those of you who have been on the list for a while may remember Graham. He
started the project about 7 years ago. The Pietenpol being his third homebu
ilt.
Graham is a retired airline pilot with many thousands of hours flying singl
e and multi engine conventional U/C aircraft and holds a low level aerobati
c rating.
Graham's Aircamper is the long fuselage variant with Riblette 612 aerofoil
and powered by an O-235 Lycoming.
The wing=2C incorporating built-up spars and Piper style landing gear const
ruction are from Jim Wills plans. Graham has also incorporated a door for t
he front seat.
Empty weight at 740lbs=2C initial flight reports indicate an excellent ROC
and 85 kts at 2500 RPM with a 68x45 prop and at 33 kts she was still flying
but had a high ROD and wings stayed level.
Initial flight problem was a nose heavy tendency possibly caused by wash-in
at the tips of the stabiliser.
This was corrected prior to the second flight however back stick was still
required to keep the nose from dropping in level flight. To be resolved fir
st before more extensive flight testing can continue.
The wing is shifted back 2" from vertical and the CoG was with in range for
the 612.
See attached photo of VH-XHE resting after her second flight.
Hopefully a video will be posted in time and I can provide updates as to fl
ight performance=2C especially for those interested in the 612.
Best regards=2C
John Woods
Perth=2C Western Australia
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions |
Actually when I was working at General Dynamics, I learned that the correct
terminology is to "Obligate" the hole, so that it's obligated to accept the
bolt.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tools
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 4:41 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions
kevinpurtee wrote:
> When you take your hand drill and use a technique called "wallering" to
get the bolts to go through...
Man ain't this the truth! In all fairness, will probably have to "waller" a
bit less though.
waller (n. wall-er latin) 1. art of making bolts fit close tolerance holes
sp. wallo, wallos, wallamos, wallas, wallan
Is it too late to get this in the Tony B. glossary of homebuilding terms?
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| Subject: | Re: landing gear |
Billy,
I believe "the ordnance" are actually small cargo compartments.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | bottom fitting plate |
On pg. 3 of the plans in the lower left corner =9Cbottom fitting
plate=9D that goes on the bottom of the fuselage. My question:
should the 5/16=9D holes be 28 3/4=9D apart, as that would
be the center to center width of the wing spars?
Dennis
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions |
Check out the RV-10 list sometime. What a bunch of whiners!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 12:52 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions
Hey guys, slightly off topic, but I am really impressed and grateful to be a
part of this list.... Let me BRIEFLY (I tend to ramble) explain:
Looked for years to decided what to build. Didn't look at the support groups
or lists like this to determine what to build, but I should have. I have a
link directly to this list that I use to log in. Tonight I had to log on via
the forums.matronics.com site and navigate to this group. On the way I
slowly scrolled through the main page of groups to see what other groups are
active. I had NO idea that this group was far away the most active and
helpful! Have you guys seen the difference in the amount of posts here
versus the other popular builds? I was very surprised and very pleased.
You know, it could be somewhat intimidating to see how much this forum is
read, but you guys make it so comfortable to ask a question, and are so
supportive and non-cliquish that I haven't thought about asking a question
or two. I'd like to again say thanks for the help.
So I'll be ordering a scotch-brite wheel soon. But until then, I sure
appreciate the advice and moral support. I hope I can afford a Brodhead trip
next year!
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight of VH-XHE |
List,
A correction to my report on Graham's engine of choice.
It is a Continental O-200.
To those with inquiring minds, I will pass the questions on to Graham for answers.
Best regards,
> John Woods
Perth , Western Australia
>
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions |
Hey guys, slightly off topic, but I am really impressed and grateful to be a part
of this list.... Let me BRIEFLY (I tend to ramble) explain:
Looked for years to decided what to build. Didn't look at the support groups or
lists like this to determine what to build, but I should have. I have a link
directly to this list that I use to log in. Tonight I had to log on via the forums.matronics.com
site and navigate to this group. On the way I slowly scrolled
through the main page of groups to see what other groups are active. I had
NO idea that this group was far away the most active and helpful! Have you guys
seen the difference in the amount of posts here versus the other popular builds?
I was very surprised and very pleased.
You know, it could be somewhat intimidating to see how much this forum is read,
but you guys make it so comfortable to ask a question, and are so supportive
and non-cliquish that I haven't thought about asking a question or two. I'd like
to again say thanks for the help.
So I'll be ordering a scotch-brite wheel soon. But until then, I sure appreciate
the advice and moral support. I hope I can afford a Brodhead trip next year!
Mark
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382782#382782
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| Subject: | bottom fitting plate |
That's how I installed mine.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
Engelkenjohn
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 5:43 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: bottom fitting plate
On pg. 3 of the plans in the lower left corner "bottom fitting plate" that
goes on the bottom of the fuselage. My question: should the 5/16" holes be
28 3/4" apart, as that would be the center to center width of the wing
spars?
Dennis
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight of VH-XHE |
She's a beauty, mate! Glad to hear that the first flights have been safe and successful
so far. Carry on!
It will be of great interest to all on this list to hear how the airplane handles
and performs with the Riblett. The more data that can be carefully acquired
while flight testing, the better. In fact, I'll bet that Doc Mosher would welcome
a semi-technical article for the BPA Newsletter on performance with the
Riblett vs. the tried-and-true Pietenpol wing. In this case, the best comparison
would be between O-200 powered Piets, but any data would be good. Stall
speed, cruise speed, time to climb, speed vs. RPM, trim force required. Input!
Data points! Once the initial rigging tweaks are made and the test pilot is
comfortable with the airplane, it would be nice to see data start coming in.
I note that the aileron horns have lightening holes in them, thus I assume that
they were not fabricated as hollow airfoil shapes as the plans call for, but
rather from flat metal stock. Are they aluminum?
Cheers!
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford/Ashland, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight of VH-XHE?????// |
hi Oscar were I cand see these video jorge from hanford=0A=0A=0AFrom: taild
rags <taildrags@hotmail.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Su
nday, September 9, 2012 9:37 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: First Flight
s@hotmail.com>=0A=0AShe's a beauty, mate!- Glad to hear that the first fl
ights have been safe and successful so far.- Carry on!=0A=0AIt will be of
great interest to all on this list to hear how the airplane handles and pe
rforms with the Riblett.- The more data that can be carefully acquired wh
ile flight testing, the better.- In fact, I'll bet that Doc Mosher would
welcome a semi-technical article for the BPA Newsletter on performance with
the Riblett vs. the tried-and-true Pietenpol wing.- In this case, the be
st comparison would be between O-200 powered Piets, but any data would be g
ood.- Stall speed, cruise speed, time to climb, speed vs. RPM, trim force
required.- Input!- Data points!- Once the initial rigging tweaks are
made and the test pilot is comfortable with the airplane, it would be nice
to see data start coming in.=0A=0AI note that the aileron horns have light
ening holes in them, thus I assume that they were not fabricated as hollow
airfoil shapes as the plans call for, but rather from flat metal stock.-
Are they aluminum?=0A=0ACheers!=0A=0A--------=0AOscar Zuniga=0AMedford/Ashl
and, OR=0AAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"=0AA75 power=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARea
d this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p
=========================0A
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Fittings and Prep questions |
I vote for this one!
I bet they used it on sailing ships when the
gronicle just refused to fit the binnicle gimp.
Clif
The Early Bird may get the worm but the second
mouse gets the cheese.
>
> Actually when I was working at General Dynamics, I learned that the
> correct
> terminology is to "Obligate" the hole, so that it's obligated to accept
> the
> bolt.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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