Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Fri 09/14/12


Total Messages Posted: 46



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     1. 03:29 AM - Re: Re: Jack Phillips Tailwheel (Jack@textors.com)
     2. 04:30 AM - Re: Update (Jerry Dotson)
     3. 05:12 AM - Re: Update and tailskid operations (Greg Cardinal)
     4. 05:32 AM - Re: Update (Michael Perez)
     5. 05:32 AM - Re: First run of Corvair on Pietenpol (caldwrl)
     6. 05:36 AM - Re: Update and tailskid operations (Greg Cardinal)
     7. 05:38 AM - two great looking new ones!! (Douwe Blumberg)
     8. 05:46 AM - Assembling Mag. to Engine (Michael Perez)
     9. 05:49 AM - Re: Update (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
    10. 05:49 AM - New Data Plate...P.C.? (Michael Perez)
    11. 05:55 AM - Re: First run of Corvair on Pietenpol (TOM STINEMETZE)
    12. 06:02 AM - Re: Assembling Mag. to Engine (Michael Perez)
    13. 06:05 AM - Re: First run of Corvair on Pietenpol (TOM STINEMETZE)
    14. 06:13 AM - Mag. Tag Numbers (Michael Perez)
    15. 06:13 AM - Re: Update (Jack Phillips)
    16. 06:46 AM - Update (Jim Markle)
    17. 07:08 AM - Re: Jeff's new Piet (woodflier@aol.com)
    18. 07:28 AM - Re: Assembling Mag. to Engine (Michael Perez)
    19. 07:33 AM - Re: Update (gboothe5@comcast.net)
    20. 07:50 AM - Re: Update (helspersew@aol.com)
    21. 08:01 AM - Re: Update and tailskid operations (bender)
    22. 08:13 AM - Re: Update (bender)
    23. 08:17 AM - Re: two great looking new ones!! (bender)
    24. 08:18 AM - Re: Update (Jack Phillips)
    25. 08:19 AM - Re: Update (Jack Phillips)
    26. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: Jeff's new Piet (Amsafetyc)
    27. 09:23 AM - How to remove Latex paint from fabric (giacummo)
    28. 09:49 AM - Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric (Jim Markle)
    29. 10:01 AM - avgas compatibility with latex?  (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
    30. 10:06 AM - oops...correction: How to remove Latex paint from fabric (Jim Markle)
    31. 10:07 AM - Re: Jack Phillips Tailwheel (FandS_Piet)
    32. 10:14 AM - Re: Re: Jack Phillips Tailwheel (Jack Phillips)
    33. 10:35 AM - Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric (tools)
    34. 11:31 AM - Re: avgas compatibility with latex? (gboothe5@comcast.net)
    35. 12:44 PM - Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric (Dick N)
    36. 12:45 PM - Re: avgas compatibility with latex? (Jim Markle)
    37. 12:46 PM - Re: avgas compatibility with latex? (Dick N)
    38. 01:18 PM - Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric (Mario Giacummo)
    39. 01:20 PM - Re: avgas compatibility with latex? (Mario Giacummo)
    40. 02:35 PM - Service Advisory: SA 1224 fly.garmin.com (Greg Bacon)
    41. 02:55 PM - Re: avgas compatibility with latex? (shad bell)
    42. 02:57 PM - Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric (shad bell)
    43. 04:44 PM - Re: avgas compatibility with latex? (Andrew Eldredge)
    44. 04:46 PM - Re: Update (Pieti Lowell)
    45. 08:11 PM - Original Sky Scout installed in Model T Museum (Baldeagle)
    46. 08:25 PM - Re: Original Sky Scout installed in Model T Museum (Ryan Mueller)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:29:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Jack Phillips Tailwheel
    From: "Jack@textors.com" <jack@textors.com>
    Fred yes I have 2 leaf springs with a Scott tail wheel Jack Textor Sent from my iPad On Sep 13, 2012, at 10:56 AM, "FandS_Piet" <fkim79@gmail.com> wrote: > > Jack T. My eyes may be deceiving me but it clearly looks like there is a leaf spring style tail wheel in one of the pictures. > > -------- > Fred Kim > Pittsburgh, Pa > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382990#382990 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:30:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Update
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    That is one pretty airplane.......now if you just had a decent place to keep it! When are we going to get the inspection? -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 First flight June 16,2012 Started building July, 2009 21&quot; wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383038#383038


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    Time: 05:12:20 AM PST US
    From: "Greg Cardinal" <gcardinal@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Update and tailskid operations
    Jeff, Welcome to the world of brakeless, tailskid flying. You will find that your airplane handles landing and taxiing like most any other tailwheel equipped aircraft with a few exceptions. 1. Skidplate wear - Dan mentioned the drill rod. This works great. Initially a piece of UHMW was installed as the wearplate. This wore out after a couple of months. Then a couple of carbide cutting inserts were brazed onto the skidplate. These worked fantastic but would dig deep scratches on any hard surface I taxiied across. The solution is a piece of 3/8" diameter X 3" long piece of tungsten carbide drill rod brazed across the aft end of the skid plate. Minimal scratching on hard surfaces and will likely last the life of the airplane. 2. Taxiing with a tailwind - This is the biggest challenge with a skid. Any taxiing with a tailwind greater than 10 - 12 mph requires assistance by someone hanging onto a lift strut and helping to steer the airplane. 3. Taxiing on pavement - The airplane can be difficult to steer accurately and you may find it difficult to slow down. I always have my seatbelt unbuckled when taxiing on pavement so I can jump out quickly if needed. Be ready to kill the mag switch and don't taxi behind someone if the taxiway slopes downhill. 4. Landing or taxiing on a slope - Use caution when doing so, the tailskid will try to slide downhill. This is especially important when landing on grass adjacent to a paved runway where the grass may slope away from the pavement. If your tailskid slides downhill in this situation you may find yourself heading towards the pavement. Also, I NEVER land on a runway when airplanes are parked adjacent to it. This can often be the case at busy fly-ins with minimal parking space. The risk of groundlooping into a parked airplane isn't worth it. Go early or go elsewhere, and carry good insurance. 5. Flight planning - When planning a flight to an unfamiliar airport don't assume there will be usable grass. Quite often there is usable grass next to the runway but check ahead with the airport operator and have a usable alternate in mind. Google Earth is a great tool for checking out airports but it doesn't always give good detail like ditches and hazards hidden in the grass. 6. Cool factor - As if a Pietenpol isn't cool enough, the skid will set you apart. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: helspersew@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:02 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update Jeff, Gorgeous airplane!! You gonna be able to taxi around there with the skid? Greg Cardinal has a great solution, welding on hardened drill rod to the bottom of the skid plate. A great idea that I myself copied! Dan helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:43 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> Well gents... I have some wiring to do and a few little panels to make.. some touch up here and there... but here it is... pretty much together.. looking forward to taxiing around and trying her out.. jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383003#383003 " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 05:32:49 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Update
    Very nice Jeff!- I like the look of the exterior aileron cables/pulleys. - It fits the over-all look of your plane nicely. Question, how did you form the very front "nose" part of the engine cowling ?- I would like a look similar to that, but am not sure how to form it. T hanks. Michael Perez =0APietenpol HINT Videos =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 05:32:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: First run of Corvair on Pietenpol
    From: "caldwrl" <caldwrl@etex.net>
    Kevin's exhaust stacks gave me the idea for mine. And I figure there's lots of clean air flowing around the fuselage at 80 mph (well, maybe not that fast)... but that's my thinking. In fact, I don't remember smelling the exhaust at all as I stood in the prop wash. The exhausts are made from the standard Corvair "U" pipe I ordered from Clark's. I cut it in half, turned one half 180 degrees and welded it back into an "S" shape. I sliced the end parallel to the airflow and put in some louvres per Tony B. Simple and easy, which I like both, and sort of retro. I'll keep this in mind, however, and when she finally takes to the air it will be a checklist item I will mark off or change. Besides, Kevin has been one of my hero for years now, and still is. So, I will take the liberty to copy any of FBG's attributes and future improvements, unless Kevin says otherwise. -------- Robert Caldwell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383040#383040


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    Time: 05:36:46 AM PST US
    From: "Greg Cardinal" <gcardinal@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Update and tailskid operations
    Correction, I see you do have brakes. Everything still applies. GC ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Cardinal To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 7:11 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update and tailskid operations Jeff, Welcome to the world of brakeless, tailskid flying. You will find that your airplane handles landing and taxiing like most any other tailwheel equipped aircraft with a few exceptions. 1. Skidplate wear - Dan mentioned the drill rod. This works great. Initially a piece of UHMW was installed as the wearplate. This wore out after a couple of months. Then a couple of carbide cutting inserts were brazed onto the skidplate. These worked fantastic but would dig deep scratches on any hard surface I taxiied across. The solution is a piece of 3/8" diameter X 3" long piece of tungsten carbide drill rod brazed across the aft end of the skid plate. Minimal scratching on hard surfaces and will likely last the life of the airplane. 2. Taxiing with a tailwind - This is the biggest challenge with a skid. Any taxiing with a tailwind greater than 10 - 12 mph requires assistance by someone hanging onto a lift strut and helping to steer the airplane. 3. Taxiing on pavement - The airplane can be difficult to steer accurately and you may find it difficult to slow down. I always have my seatbelt unbuckled when taxiing on pavement so I can jump out quickly if needed. Be ready to kill the mag switch and don't taxi behind someone if the taxiway slopes downhill. 4. Landing or taxiing on a slope - Use caution when doing so, the tailskid will try to slide downhill. This is especially important when landing on grass adjacent to a paved runway where the grass may slope away from the pavement. If your tailskid slides downhill in this situation you may find yourself heading towards the pavement. Also, I NEVER land on a runway when airplanes are parked adjacent to it. This can often be the case at busy fly-ins with minimal parking space. The risk of groundlooping into a parked airplane isn't worth it. Go early or go elsewhere, and carry good insurance. 5. Flight planning - When planning a flight to an unfamiliar airport don't assume there will be usable grass. Quite often there is usable grass next to the runway but check ahead with the airport operator and have a usable alternate in mind. Google Earth is a great tool for checking out airports but it doesn't always give good detail like ditches and hazards hidden in the grass. 6. Cool factor - As if a Pietenpol isn't cool enough, the skid will set you apart. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: helspersew@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:02 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update Jeff, Gorgeous airplane!! You gonna be able to taxi around there with the skid? Greg Cardinal has a great solution, welding on hardened drill rod to the bottom of the skid plate. A great idea that I myself copied! Dan helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:43 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> Well gents... I have some wiring to do and a few little panels to make.. some touch up here and there... but here it is... pretty much together.. looking forward to taxiing around and trying her out.. jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383003#383003 " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 05:38:31 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: two great looking new ones!!
    WOW, what nice new planes!!! Great work guys!! Jeff, where in KY are you? I'm between Lex and Cinci. Douwe


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    Time: 05:46:59 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Assembling Mag. to Engine
    Crew, I have completed a mag. overhaul and am wanting to attach it to the e ngine. Per the engine manual, I have found TDC and have the engine clocked at 30 deg. BTDC. The mag. I want to install has an impulse coupler and will go in the left s ide mag. opening.- I am not sure at what orientation/rotation the mag. it self needs to be in when I bolt it to the engine.-- I would imagine one gear tooth off in either direction in relation to the engine gear would ca use problems. Thanks up front. Michael Perez =0APietenpol HINT Videos =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 05:49:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Update
    From: "curtdm(at)gmail.com" <curtdm@gmail.com>
    Great looking airplane! It definitely has a period look to it. Grab you scarf and goggles and let's see it moving! Sitting still it looks like a museum piece. -------- Curt Merdan Flower Mound, TX Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383044#383044


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    Time: 05:49:26 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: New Data Plate...P.C.?
    My new engine data plate has a box under the "C.R." box labled "P.C".- Wh at does P.C. stand for? More directly, what should I stamp in this PC box? Michael Perez =0APietenpol HINT Videos =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 05:55:40 AM PST US
    From: "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
    Subject: Re: First run of Corvair on Pietenpol
    Kevin: That might explain some of the things my wife said after the ride - i.e. no longer being in my right mind and such. 8^) Stinemetze do not archive >>> "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> 9/13/2012 9:28 PM >>> @Tom - Exhaust is very similar to what you rode behind last year:). do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383028#383028


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    Time: 06:02:47 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Assembling Mag. to Engine
    This would help... The mags are Eisemann AM-4.- Michael Perez =0APietenpol HINT Videos =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com =0A


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    Time: 06:05:30 AM PST US
    From: "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
    Subject: Re: First run of Corvair on Pietenpol
    Bob: I was just shooting my mouth off about something I have no direct experience with except for one ride in Kevin's FBG. No, I did not notice any exhaust fumes on that flight and Kevin would surely have mentioned it if that was one of the things that he was planning to change. I just wish I was that far along with mine. Tom Stinemetze McPherson, KS. >>> "caldwrl" <caldwrl@etex.net> 9/14/2012 7:32 AM >>> Kevin's exhaust stacks gave me the idea for mine. And I figure there's lots of clean air flowing around the fuselage at 80 mph (well, maybe not that fast)... but that's my thinking. In fact, I don't remember smelling the exhaust at all as I stood in the prop wash. The exhausts are made from the standard Corvair "U" pipe I ordered from Clark's. I cut it in half, turned one half 180 degrees and welded it back into an "S" shape. I sliced the end parallel to the airflow and put in some louvres per Tony B. Simple and easy, which I like both, and sort of retro. I'll keep this in mind, however, and when she finally takes to the air it will be a checklist item I will mark off or change. Besides, Kevin has been one of my hero for years now, and still is. So, I will take the liberty to copy any of FBG's attributes and future improvements, unless Kevin says otherwise. -------- Robert Caldwell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383040#383040


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    Time: 06:13:51 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Mag. Tag Numbers
    Attached is a photo showing the old tag and its numbers from one of my Eise mann AM-4s.- Where should these numbers be placed on the new tag?- (Whi ch is model, number, serial number, etc.) Michael Perez =0APietenpol HINT Videos =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 06:13:54 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Update
    Gorgeous, Jeff. Another Black & Yellow German! Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:43 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update Well gents... I have some wiring to do and a few little panels to make.. some touch up here and there... but here it is... pretty much together.. looking forward to taxiing around and trying her out.. jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383003#383003


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    Time: 06:46:31 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Update
    There are several Pietenpols that are great examples of the real beauty of this wonderful design. This is one of those..... Simple elegant beauty. Congratulations!


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    Time: 07:08:42 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: Jeff's new Piet
    From: woodflier@aol.com
    Beautiful job, Jeff. With all the Piets now in KY, VA, NC, WV and MD, we ou ght to have a mid-Atlantic Piet get together to terrorize the spam cans! I look forward to seeing your airplane in person and flying. Matt Paxton NX629ML


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    Time: 07:28:49 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Assembling Mag. to Engine
    Found it!- (You'll never guess where...) Michael Perez =0APietenpol HINT Videos =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com =0A


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    Time: 07:33:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Update
    From: gboothe5@comcast.net
    Beautiful, Jeff! I see the black and yellow Germans are gaining strength! Gary from Cool ------Original Message------ From: bender Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update Sent: Sep 13, 2012 1:42 PM Well gents... I have some wiring to do and a few little panels to make.. some touch up here and there... but here it is... pretty much together.. looking forward to taxiing around and trying her out.. jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383003#383003 Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry


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    Time: 07:50:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Update
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Need to dispel this rumor. Jeff's airplane is actually dark green. But ther e IS another black and yellow copy-job about to make it's debut. I don't wa nt to mention any names, but the initials are G.R. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> Sent: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 9:33 am Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update Beautiful, Jeff! I see the black and yellow Germans are gaining strength! Gary from Cool ------Original Message------ From: bender Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update Sent: Sep 13, 2012 1:42 PM > Well gents... I have some wiring to do and a few little panels to make.. some touch up he re and there... but here it is... pretty much together.. looking forward to taxiing around and trying her out.. jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383003#383003 Sent on the Sprint=C2=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=C2=AE


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    Time: 08:01:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Update and tailskid operations
    From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
    Thanks... i do have brakes.. i'm looking forward to taxiing it around to see how it goes.. i have a wheel around but i'm hoping not to use it I wondered about the UHMW and if it would last at all i actually have a piece of an old tire screwed to the plate now.. not sure it would last long at all but i thought i would try a couple of replaceable shoes and see if anything worked jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383062#383062


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    Time: 08:13:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Update
    From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
    Thanks for the kind words.. it is green for sure... really dark green.. but green. and the wing is a creamy tan... my wife says it looks the same color as the Birch ply that was all over the plane. I actually don't have the inspection scheduled yet..I was hoping to get an FAA guy to come over if i can talk one into it.. they are close and free. The nose bowl is kinda funny...i made one like the plans then was throwing away some old junk when i noticed one of those floor lamps the points up... the reflector after some trimming worked perfect for a nose. i heard about the lid to a wok being used the same way too. Jeff SDF Lou ky Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383065#383065


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    Time: 08:17:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: two great looking new ones!!
    From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
    thanks Douwe. I'm in Louisville... the plane is at sdf.. louisville intergalactic airport. it a little busier than some but mostly at midnight a 6am when UPS is busy.. the 10000 foot runway is almost big enough jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383066#383066


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    Time: 08:18:28 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Update
    No wonder Jeff's plane looked so good. So we have the good guys (the Green & Cream Team) against the Black & Yellow Germans. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:50 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update Need to dispel this rumor. Jeff's airplane is actually dark green. But there IS another black and yellow copy-job about to make it's debut. I don't want to mention any names, but the initials are G.R. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> Sent: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 9:33 am Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update Beautiful, Jeff! I see the black and yellow Germans are gaining strength! Gary from Cool ------Original Message------ From: bender Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update Sent: Sep 13, 2012 1:42 PM Well gents... I have some wiring to do and a few little panels to make.. some touch up here and there... but here it is... pretty much together.. looking forward to taxiing around and trying her out.. jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383003#383003 Sent on the SprintR Now Network from my BlackBerryR " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 08:19:30 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Update
    No wonder Jeff's plane looked so good. So we have the good guys (the Green & Cream Team) against the Black & Yellow Germans. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:50 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update Need to dispel this rumor. Jeff's airplane is actually dark green. But there IS another black and yellow copy-job about to make it's debut. I don't want to mention any names, but the initials are G.R. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> Sent: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 9:33 am Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update Beautiful, Jeff! I see the black and yellow Germans are gaining strength! Gary from Cool ------Original Message------ From: bender Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update Sent: Sep 13, 2012 1:42 PM Well gents... I have some wiring to do and a few little panels to make.. some touch up here and there... but here it is... pretty much together.. looking forward to taxiing around and trying her out.. jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383003#383003 Sent on the SprintR Now Network from my BlackBerryR " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 08:48:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RE: Jeff's new Piet
    From: Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    They also build them in pa and have nice airports with plenty of tie down sp ace Juss sayin Sent from my iPhone On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:08 AM, woodflier@aol.com wrote: > Beautiful job, Jeff. With all the Piets now in KY, VA, NC, WV and MD, we o ught to have a mid-Atlantic Piet get together to terrorize the spam cans! I l ook forward to seeing your airplane in person and flying. > > Matt Paxton > NX629ML > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 09:23:11 AM PST US
    Subject: How to remove Latex paint from fabric
    From: "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
    Before anything else, Jeff: congratulation for the Piet!!!, for me, here far away from all those hand made flaying machines, its a .... pleasure?/confort?.. I do not know how to said it.. see came out one after anoher with success. Now my little add.. Few months ago I ask how to make certain repair in the rudder.. I install a wrong horn on it, cover the rudder, and paint it with latex to learn, and see how latex work, later I discover the mistake... and the best answer I had was "cut, replace it and learn how to do it"... OK, I am in the process.. I do not care to cut, and replace it, the problem for me was the paint. How can I go to the fabric without damage it with the sand paper?... I do not like that idea.. but if there is no other?.. I ask in paint houses if there is anything to remove the paint chemicaly.. the answer was nothing, so sand?.. so today I was in the garage doing others things and I saw a bottle of Tolueno that I use to clean the brushes I use to apply contac cement. and I try with it.. incredibel.. look this pictures here http://vgmk1.blogspot.com/2012/09/como-arreglar-un-agujero-y-rejadura-en.html the fabric is like new.. without traces of the paint... So, if you are working with latex paint remember, tolueno (in english may be TOLUEN?) Regards -------- Mario Giacummo http://vgmk1.blogspot.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383081#383081


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    Time: 09:49:08 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric
    Well, this is perfect timing for me! I may be removing some latex (the hand painted numbers) from my rudder....looks like this will do the job! Also, I didn't like the way the latex worked on aluminum cowling and found that acetone or mineral spirits (that's all I've tried so far) worked fine to remove it from aluminum. But this looks better for fabric. Ringraziarla per la grand'idea! Jim in Pryor....just ouside Rome... -----Original Message----- >From: giacummo <mario.giacummo@gmail.com> >Sent: Sep 14, 2012 11:22 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: How to remove Latex paint from fabric > > >Before anything else, Jeff: congratulation for the Piet!!!, for me, here far away from all those hand made flaying machines, its a .... pleasure?/confort?.. I do not know how to said it.. see came out one after anoher with success. >Now my little add.. > >Few months ago I ask how to make certain repair in the rudder.. I install a wrong horn on it, cover the rudder, and paint it with latex to learn, and see how latex work, later I discover the mistake... and the best answer I had was "cut, replace it and learn how to do it"... >OK, I am in the process.. I do not care to cut, and replace it, the problem for me was the paint. How can I go to the fabric without damage it with the sand paper?... I do not like that idea.. but if there is no other?.. I ask in paint houses if there is anything to remove the paint chemicaly.. the answer was nothing, so sand?.. so today I was in the garage doing others things and I saw a bottle of Tolueno that I use to clean the brushes I use to apply contac cement. and I try with it.. incredibel.. look this pictures here > >http://vgmk1.blogspot.com/2012/09/como-arreglar-un-agujero-y-rejadura-en.html > >the fabric is like new.. without traces of the paint... >So, if you are working with latex paint remember, tolueno (in english may be TOLUEN?) > >Regards > >-------- >Mario Giacummo >http://vgmk1.blogspot.com > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383081#383081 > >


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    Time: 10:01:59 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: avgas compatibility with latex?
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    Time: 10:06:31 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: How to remove Latex paint from fabric
    I meant to say: Gracias por la gran idea! -----Original Message----- >From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com> >Sent: Sep 14, 2012 11:48 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: How to remove Latex paint from fabric > >Well, this is perfect timing for me! I may be removing some latex (the hand painted numbers) from my rudder....looks like this will do the job! > >Also, I didn't like the way the latex worked on aluminum cowling and found that acetone or mineral spirits (that's all I've tried so far) worked fine to remove it from aluminum. > >But this looks better for fabric. > >Ringraziarla per la grand'idea! > >Jim in Pryor....just ouside Rome... > > >-----Original Message----- >>From: giacummo <mario.giacummo@gmail.com> >>Sent: Sep 14, 2012 11:22 AM >>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Pietenpol-List: How to remove Latex paint from fabric >> >> >>Before anything else, Jeff: congratulation for the Piet!!!, for me, here far away from all those hand made flaying machines, its a .... pleasure?/confort?.. I do not know how to said it.. see came out one after anoher with success. >>Now my little add.. >> >>Few months ago I ask how to make certain repair in the rudder.. I install a wrong horn on it, cover the rudder, and paint it with latex to learn, and see how latex work, later I discover the mistake... and the best answer I had was "cut, replace it and learn how to do it"... >>OK, I am in the process.. I do not care to cut, and replace it, the problem for me was the paint. How can I go to the fabric without damage it with the sand paper?... I do not like that idea.. but if there is no other?.. I ask in paint houses if there is anything to remove the paint chemicaly.. the answer was nothing, so sand?.. so today I was in the garage doing others things and I saw a bottle of Tolueno that I use to clean the brushes I use to apply contac cement. and I try with it.. incredibel.. look this pictures here >> >>http://vgmk1.blogspot.com/2012/09/como-arreglar-un-agujero-y-rejadura-en.html >> >>the fabric is like new.. without traces of the paint... >>So, if you are working with latex paint remember, tolueno (in english may be TOLUEN?) >> >>Regards >> >>-------- >>Mario Giacummo >>http://vgmk1.blogspot.com >> >> >> >> >>Read this topic online here: >> >>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383081#383081 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 10:07:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Jack Phillips Tailwheel
    From: "FandS_Piet" <fkim79@gmail.com>
    Jack did you order 2 of the same springs. If so I assume you has to modify one of them (shorten/bend it). -------- Fred Kim Pittsburgh, Pa Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383089#383089


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    Time: 10:14:45 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Jack Phillips Tailwheel
    To be honest, I simply don't remember. I do remember that I got the spring from McMaster-Carr. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FandS_Piet Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:08 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jack Phillips Tailwheel Jack did you order 2 of the same springs. If so I assume you has to modify one of them (shorten/bend it). -------- Fred Kim Pittsburgh, Pa Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383089#383089


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    Time: 10:35:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric
    From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
    Mario, In english I believe it's toluene. Not sure if it's available like that or not from typical retailers, but would be the active ingredient in "brush cleaners", paint strippers and the like. Not sure, but it also may be in a couple products commonly available here in the states as "Goof Off" or "Oops", which are both capable of removing dried latex paint. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383097#383097


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    Time: 11:31:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: avgas compatibility with latex?
    From: gboothe5@comcast.net
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    Time: 12:44:01 PM PST US
    From: "Dick N" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric
    Try normal paint stripper from the hardware store. That will take it off just fine. Scrape the residue off with a sharp plastic scraper then wash the remaining residue off. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:22 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: How to remove Latex paint from fabric > <mario.giacummo@gmail.com> > > Before anything else, Jeff: congratulation for the Piet!!!, for me, here > far away from all those hand made flaying machines, its a .... > pleasure?/confort?.. I do not know how to said it.. see came out one > after anoher with success. > Now my little add.. > > Few months ago I ask how to make certain repair in the rudder.. I install > a wrong horn on it, cover the rudder, and paint it with latex to learn, > and see how latex work, later I discover the mistake... and the best > answer I had was "cut, replace it and learn how to do it"... > OK, I am in the process.. I do not care to cut, and replace it, the > problem for me was the paint. How can I go to the fabric without damage it > with the sand paper?... I do not like that idea.. but if there is no > other?.. I ask in paint houses if there is anything to remove the paint > chemicaly.. the answer was nothing, so sand?.. so today I was in the > garage doing others things and I saw a bottle of Tolueno that I use to > clean the brushes I use to apply contac cement. and I try with it.. > incredibel.. look this pictures here > > http://vgmk1.blogspot.com/2012/09/como-arreglar-un-agujero-y-rejadura-en.html > > the fabric is like new.. without traces of the paint... > So, if you are working with latex paint remember, tolueno (in english may > be TOLUEN?) > > Regards > > -------- > Mario Giacummo > http://vgmk1.blogspot.com > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383081#383081 > > >


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    Time: 12:45:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: avgas compatibility with latex?
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
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    Time: 12:46:10 PM PST US
    From: "Dick N" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: avgas compatibility with latex?
    Hey Mike House paint does hold up to both types of gas and oil. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: gboothe5@comcast.net To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex? Not good! Gary from Cool Sent on the Sprint=C2=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=C2=AE ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:01:31 -0500 To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<pietenpol-list@matronics.com> ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex? Not that I ever plan on using latex on my airplane, however.....for the guys who are flying with latex, will be flying with latex or have done testing, how does it hold up to auto or 100LL avgas? Mike C.


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    Time: 01:18:21 PM PST US
    From: Mario Giacummo <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric
    no, no, no ... Toluene is THE BEST, I discover it first.. ;o))) Mario Giacummo . -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- / ...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - . not archive 2012/9/14 Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> > > Try normal paint stripper from the hardware store. That will take it off > just fine. Scrape the residue off with a sharp plastic scraper then wash > the remaining residue off. > Dick N. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:22 AM > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: How to remove Latex paint from fabric > > >> mario.giacummo@gmail.com> >> >> Before anything else, Jeff: congratulation for the Piet!!!, for me, here >> far away from all those hand made flaying machines, its a .... >> pleasure?/confort?.. I do not know how to said it.. see came out one after >> anoher with success. >> Now my little add.. >> >> Few months ago I ask how to make certain repair in the rudder.. I install >> a wrong horn on it, cover the rudder, and paint it with latex to learn, and >> see how latex work, later I discover the mistake... and the best answer I >> had was "cut, replace it and learn how to do it"... >> OK, I am in the process.. I do not care to cut, and replace it, the >> problem for me was the paint. How can I go to the fabric without damage it >> with the sand paper?... I do not like that idea.. but if there is no >> other?.. I ask in paint houses if there is anything to remove the paint >> chemicaly.. the answer was nothing, so sand?.. so today I was in the garage >> doing others things and I saw a bottle of Tolueno that I use to clean the >> brushes I use to apply contac cement. and I try with it.. incredibel.. look >> this pictures here >> >> http://vgmk1.blogspot.com/**2012/09/como-arreglar-un-** >> agujero-y-rejadura-en.html<http://vgmk1.blogspot.com/2012/09/como-arreglar-un-agujero-y-rejadura-en.html> >> >> the fabric is like new.. without traces of the paint... >> So, if you are working with latex paint remember, tolueno (in english may >> be TOLUEN?) >> >> Regards >> >> -------- >> Mario Giacummo >> http://vgmk1.blogspot.com >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/**viewtopic.php?p=383081#383081<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383081#383081> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 01:20:23 PM PST US
    From: Mario Giacummo <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: avgas compatibility with latex?
    http://www.questiongravity.com/airbike/latex1.htm Mario Giacummo . -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- / ...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - . 2012/9/14 <gboothe5@comcast.net> > Not good! > > Gary from Cool > Sent on the Sprint=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=AE > ------------------------------ > *From: * "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" < > michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> > *Sender: * owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > *Date: *Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:01:31 -0500 > *To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com<pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > *ReplyTo: * pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject: *Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex? > > Not that I ever plan on using latex on my airplane, however.....for the > guys who**** > > are flying with latex, will be flying with latex or have done testing, ho w > does it hold up to auto or 100LL avgas?**** > > ** ** > > Mike C.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > [image: Description: > http://www.planitdiy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/village_roller_cover. png] > **** >


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    Time: 02:35:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Service Advisory: SA 1224 fly.garmin.com
    From: Greg Bacon <gbacon67@gmail.com>
    Good info for the iPietenpol crowd :-) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Garmin <communication.services@garmin.com> Subject: Service Advisory: SA 1224 fly.garmin.com Please see attached file. If you have any questions please contact Garmin product support at 1-800-800-1020 Thank you, Garmin International ------------------------------ This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender and delete all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. -- Greg Bacon


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    Time: 02:55:06 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: avgas compatibility with latex?
    we have a little stain from a leak that was in the fuel gauge, but it's not too bad with 100LL, as long as you let it evaporate and don't wipe it whil e it is wet.=C2- I don't know, but I would NOT want to spill auto gas on it. =C2- Shad --- On Fri, 9/14/12, Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote: From: Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex? =EF=BB Hey Mike House paint does hold up to both types of gas and oil. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: gboothe5@comcast.net Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex? Not good! Gary from Cool Sent on the Sprint=C2=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=C2=AE From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@na sa.gov> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex? Not that I ever plan on using latex on my airplane, however.....for the guy s who are flying with latex, will be flying with latex or have done testing, how does it hold up to auto or 100LL avgas? =C2- Mike C. =C2- =C2-


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    Time: 02:57:21 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric
    I used MEK to take off paint to patch the wing when a piece of aluminum gut ter fell on it a few years ago it worked great.- The MEK took it right do wn to bare fabric in about a minute, then I washed the fabric with soap and water, applied the patch, and repainted.- It worked great. - Shad --- On Fri, 9/14/12, Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote: From: Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: How to remove Latex paint from fabric Try normal paint stripper from the hardware store.- That will take it off just fine.- Scrape the residue off with a sharp plastic scraper then was h the remaining residue off. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:22 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: How to remove Latex paint from fabric m> > > Before anything else, Jeff: congratulation for the Piet!!!, for me, here far away from all those hand made flaying machines, its a .... pleasure?/co nfort?.. I do not know how to said it.. see came out- one after anoher wi th success. > Now my little add.. > > Few months ago I ask how to make certain repair in the rudder.. I install a wrong horn on it, cover the rudder, and paint it with latex to learn, an d see how latex work, later I discover the mistake... and the best answer I had was "cut, replace it and learn how to do it"... > OK, I am in the process.. I do not care to cut, and replace it, the probl em for me was the paint. How can I go to the fabric without damage it with the sand paper?... I do- not like that idea.. but if there is no other?.. I ask in paint houses if there is anything to remove the paint chemicaly.. the answer was nothing, so sand?.. so today I was in the garage doing othe rs things and I saw a bottle of Tolueno that I use to clean the brushes I u se to apply contac cement. and I try with it.. incredibel.. look this pictu res here > > http://vgmk1.blogspot.com/2012/09/como-arreglar-un-agujero-y-rejadura-en. html > > the fabric is like new.. without traces of the paint... > So, if you are working with latex paint remember, tolueno (in english may be TOLUEN?) > > Regards > > -------- > Mario Giacummo > http://vgmk1.blogspot.com > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383081#383081 > > > > > > > > > > le, List Admin.


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    Time: 04:44:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: avgas compatibility with latex?
    From: Andrew Eldredge <andrew.eldredge@gmail.com>
    I've spilled auto gas around the filler neck, sometimes it runs, sometimes stains. Someday I might need to re-cover the center section. It has never made me decide to not go flying. Andrew Eldredge Provo, UT On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote: > we have a little stain from a leak that was in the fuel gauge, but it's > not too bad with 100LL, as long as you let it evaporate and don't wipe it > while it is wet. I don't know, but I would NOT want to spill auto gas on > it. > > Shad > > --- On *Fri, 9/14/12, Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net>* wrote: > > > From: Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex? > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, September 14, 2012, 3:45 PM > > =EF=BB > Hey Mike > House paint does hold up to both types of gas and oil. > Dick N. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* gboothe5@comcast.net<http://us.mc1612.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?t o=gboothe5@comcast.net> > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com<http://us.mc1612.mail.yahoo.com/mc/com pose?to=pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2012 1:30 PM > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex? > > Not good! > > Gary from Cool > Sent on the Sprint=C2=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=C2=AE > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" < > michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov<http://us.mc1612.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mi chael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>> > > *Sender: *owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com<http://us.mc1612.mail .yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com> > *Date: *Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:01:31 -0500 > *To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com<pietenpol-list@matronics.com<http://us .mc1612.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pietenpol-list@matronics.com%3Cpiete npol-list@matronics.com> > > > *ReplyTo: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com<http://us.mc1612.mail.yahoo.com/m c/compose?to=pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > *Subject: *Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex? > > Not that I ever plan on using latex on my airplane, however.....for the > guys who > > are flying with latex, will be flying with latex or have done testing, ho w > does it hold up to auto or 100LL avgas? > > > Mike C. > > > [image: Description: > http://www.planitdiy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/village_roller_cover. png] > >


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    Time: 04:46:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Update
    From: "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
    Jeff: She is a beauty, on a sustained climb you might need a steam vent from the top, front of the head like all Fords require such a vent. Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383125#383125


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    Time: 08:11:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Original Sky Scout installed in Model T Museum
    From: "Baldeagle" <baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
    Richmond, IN http://www.pal-item.com/videonetwork/1836243670001/Model-T-Ford-Club-of-America-welcomes-new-addition?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=h3m6ZWgNJMg&NR=1 - -------- do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383139#383139


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    Time: 08:25:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Original Sky Scout installed in Model T Museum
    From: Ryan Mueller <ryan@rmueller.org>
    This should fix the Pal-Item link: http://www.pal-item.com/videonetwork/1836243670001/Model-T-Ford-Club-of-America-welcomes-new-addition The "check" portions of the first link shunt you to a subscriber popup, then just to the homepage if you don't want to register. After the ad the video should play with the above link On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Baldeagle <baldeagle27@earthlink.net>wrote: > baldeagle27@earthlink.net> > > Richmond, IN > > > http://www.pal-item.com/videonetwork/1836243670001/Model-T-Ford-Club-of-America-welcomes-new-addition?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1 > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=h3m6ZWgNJMg&NR=1 > > > - > > -------- > do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383139#383139 > >




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