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     1. 03:29 AM - Re: Re: Jack Phillips Tailwheel (Jack@textors.com)
     2. 04:30 AM - Re: Update (Jerry Dotson)
     3. 05:12 AM - Re: Update and tailskid operations (Greg Cardinal)
     4. 05:32 AM - Re: Update (Michael Perez)
     5. 05:32 AM - Re: First run of Corvair on Pietenpol (caldwrl)
     6. 05:36 AM - Re: Update and tailskid operations (Greg Cardinal)
     7. 05:38 AM - two great looking new ones!! (Douwe Blumberg)
     8. 05:46 AM - Assembling Mag. to Engine (Michael Perez)
     9. 05:49 AM - Re: Update (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
    10. 05:49 AM - New Data Plate...P.C.? (Michael Perez)
    11. 05:55 AM - Re: First run of Corvair on Pietenpol (TOM STINEMETZE)
    12. 06:02 AM - Re: Assembling Mag. to Engine (Michael Perez)
    13. 06:05 AM - Re: First run of Corvair on Pietenpol (TOM STINEMETZE)
    14. 06:13 AM - Mag. Tag Numbers (Michael Perez)
    15. 06:13 AM - Re: Update (Jack Phillips)
    16. 06:46 AM - Update (Jim Markle)
    17. 07:08 AM - Re: Jeff's new Piet (woodflier@aol.com)
    18. 07:28 AM - Re: Assembling Mag. to Engine (Michael Perez)
    19. 07:33 AM - Re: Update (gboothe5@comcast.net)
    20. 07:50 AM - Re: Update (helspersew@aol.com)
    21. 08:01 AM - Re: Update and tailskid operations (bender)
    22. 08:13 AM - Re: Update (bender)
    23. 08:17 AM - Re: two great looking new ones!! (bender)
    24. 08:18 AM - Re: Update (Jack Phillips)
    25. 08:19 AM - Re: Update (Jack Phillips)
    26. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: Jeff's new Piet (Amsafetyc)
    27. 09:23 AM - How to remove Latex paint from fabric (giacummo)
    28. 09:49 AM - Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric (Jim Markle)
    29. 10:01 AM - avgas compatibility with latex?  (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
    30. 10:06 AM - oops...correction: How to remove Latex paint from fabric (Jim Markle)
    31. 10:07 AM - Re: Jack Phillips Tailwheel (FandS_Piet)
    32. 10:14 AM - Re: Re: Jack Phillips Tailwheel (Jack Phillips)
    33. 10:35 AM - Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric (tools)
    34. 11:31 AM - Re: avgas compatibility with latex? (gboothe5@comcast.net)
    35. 12:44 PM - Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric (Dick N)
    36. 12:45 PM - Re: avgas compatibility with latex? (Jim Markle)
    37. 12:46 PM - Re: avgas compatibility with latex? (Dick N)
    38. 01:18 PM - Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric (Mario Giacummo)
    39. 01:20 PM - Re: avgas compatibility with latex? (Mario Giacummo)
    40. 02:35 PM - Service Advisory: SA 1224 fly.garmin.com (Greg Bacon)
    41. 02:55 PM - Re: avgas compatibility with latex? (shad bell)
    42. 02:57 PM - Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric (shad bell)
    43. 04:44 PM - Re: avgas compatibility with latex? (Andrew Eldredge)
    44. 04:46 PM - Re: Update (Pieti Lowell)
    45. 08:11 PM - Original Sky Scout installed in Model T Museum (Baldeagle)
    46. 08:25 PM - Re: Original Sky Scout installed in Model T Museum (Ryan Mueller)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Jack Phillips Tailwheel | 
      
      
      Fred yes I have 2 leaf springs with a Scott tail wheel
      
      Jack Textor
      Sent from my iPad
      
      On Sep 13, 2012, at 10:56 AM, "FandS_Piet" <fkim79@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Jack T.  My eyes may be deceiving me but it clearly looks like there is a leaf
      spring style tail wheel in one of the pictures.
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      > Fred Kim
      > Pittsburgh, Pa
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      That is one pretty airplane.......now if you just had a decent place to keep it!
      When are we going to get the inspection?
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      59 Daniel Johnson Rd
      Baker, FL 32531
      
      First flight June 16,2012
      Started building July, 2009
      21" wheels
      Lycoming O-235 C2C
      Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
      do not archive
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383038#383038
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Update and tailskid operations | 
      
      Jeff,
      
      Welcome to the world of brakeless, tailskid flying. You will find that 
      your airplane handles landing and taxiing like most any other tailwheel 
      equipped aircraft with a few exceptions.
      
      1. Skidplate wear - Dan mentioned the drill rod. This works great. 
      Initially a piece of UHMW was installed as the wearplate. This wore out 
      after a couple of months. Then a couple of carbide cutting inserts were 
      brazed onto the skidplate. These worked fantastic but would dig deep 
      scratches on any hard surface I taxiied across. The solution is a piece 
      of 3/8" diameter X 3" long piece of tungsten carbide drill rod brazed 
      across the aft end of the skid plate. Minimal scratching on hard 
      surfaces and will likely last the life of the airplane.
      
      2. Taxiing with a tailwind - This is the biggest challenge with a skid. 
      Any taxiing with a tailwind greater than 10 - 12 mph requires assistance 
      by someone hanging onto a lift strut and helping to steer the airplane.
      
      3. Taxiing on pavement - The airplane can be difficult to steer 
      accurately and you may find it difficult to slow down. I always have my 
      seatbelt unbuckled when taxiing on pavement so I can jump out quickly if 
      needed. Be ready to kill the mag switch and don't taxi behind someone if 
      the taxiway slopes downhill.
      
      4. Landing or taxiing on a slope - Use caution when doing so, the 
      tailskid will try to slide downhill. This is especially important when 
      landing on grass adjacent to a paved runway where the grass may slope 
      away from the pavement. If your tailskid slides downhill in this 
      situation you may find yourself heading towards the pavement. 
      Also, I NEVER land on a runway when airplanes are parked adjacent to it. 
      This can often be the case at busy fly-ins with minimal parking space. 
      The risk of groundlooping into a parked airplane isn't worth it. Go 
      early or go elsewhere, and carry good insurance.
      
      5. Flight planning - When planning a flight to an unfamiliar airport 
      don't assume there will be usable grass. Quite often there is usable 
      grass next to the runway but check ahead with the airport operator and 
      have a usable alternate in mind. Google Earth is a great tool for 
      checking out airports but it doesn't always give good detail like 
      ditches and hazards hidden in the grass.
      
      6. Cool factor - As if a Pietenpol isn't cool enough, the skid will set 
      you apart.
      
      Greg Cardinal
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: helspersew@aol.com 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:02 PM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update
      
      
        Jeff,
      
        Gorgeous airplane!! You gonna be able to taxi around there with the 
      skid? Greg Cardinal has a great solution, welding on hardened drill rod 
      to the bottom of the skid plate. A great idea that I myself copied!
      
        Dan helsper
        Puryear, TN
        -----Original Message-----
        From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
        To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
        Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:43 pm
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update
      
      
      <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
      
      Well gents...
      I have some wiring to do and a few little panels to make.. some touch up 
      here 
      and there... but here it is... pretty much together..
      
      looking forward to taxiing around and trying her out..
      
      jeff
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383003#383003
      
      
      " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      tp://forums.matronics.com
      _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
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      Very nice Jeff!- I like the look of the exterior aileron cables/pulleys.
      - It fits the over-all look of your plane nicely.
      
      Question, how did you form the very front "nose" part of the engine cowling
      ?- I would like a look similar to that, but am not sure how to form it. T
      hanks.
      
      Michael Perez
      =0APietenpol HINT Videos
      =0AKaretaker Aero
      =0Awww.karetakeraero.com
      
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| Subject:  | Re: First run of Corvair on Pietenpol | 
      
      
      Kevin's exhaust stacks gave me the idea for mine.  And I figure there's lots of
      clean air flowing around the fuselage at 80 mph (well, maybe not that fast)...
      but that's my thinking. In fact, I don't remember smelling the exhaust at all
      as I stood in the prop wash.
      
      The exhausts are made from the standard Corvair "U" pipe I ordered from Clark's.
      I cut it in half, turned one half 180 degrees and welded it back into an "S"
      shape.  I sliced the end parallel to the airflow and put in some louvres per
      Tony B.  Simple and easy, which I like both, and sort of retro.
      
      I'll keep this in mind, however, and when she finally takes to the air it will
      be a checklist item I will mark off or change.
      
      Besides, Kevin has been one of my hero for years now, and still is. So, I will
      take the liberty to copy any of FBG's attributes and future improvements, unless
      Kevin says otherwise.
      
      --------
      Robert Caldwell
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383040#383040
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Update and tailskid operations | 
      
      Correction, I see you do have brakes. Everything still applies.
      
      GC
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Greg Cardinal 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 7:11 AM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update and tailskid operations
      
      
        Jeff,
      
        Welcome to the world of brakeless, tailskid flying. You will find that 
      your airplane handles landing and taxiing like most any other tailwheel 
      equipped aircraft with a few exceptions.
      
        1. Skidplate wear - Dan mentioned the drill rod. This works great. 
      Initially a piece of UHMW was installed as the wearplate. This wore out 
      after a couple of months. Then a couple of carbide cutting inserts were 
      brazed onto the skidplate. These worked fantastic but would dig deep 
      scratches on any hard surface I taxiied across. The solution is a piece 
      of 3/8" diameter X 3" long piece of tungsten carbide drill rod brazed 
      across the aft end of the skid plate. Minimal scratching on hard 
      surfaces and will likely last the life of the airplane.
      
        2. Taxiing with a tailwind - This is the biggest challenge with a 
      skid. Any taxiing with a tailwind greater than 10 - 12 mph requires 
      assistance by someone hanging onto a lift strut and helping to steer the 
      airplane.
      
        3. Taxiing on pavement - The airplane can be difficult to steer 
      accurately and you may find it difficult to slow down. I always have my 
      seatbelt unbuckled when taxiing on pavement so I can jump out quickly if 
      needed. Be ready to kill the mag switch and don't taxi behind someone if 
      the taxiway slopes downhill.
      
        4. Landing or taxiing on a slope - Use caution when doing so, the 
      tailskid will try to slide downhill. This is especially important when 
      landing on grass adjacent to a paved runway where the grass may slope 
      away from the pavement. If your tailskid slides downhill in this 
      situation you may find yourself heading towards the pavement. 
        Also, I NEVER land on a runway when airplanes are parked adjacent to 
      it. This can often be the case at busy fly-ins with minimal parking 
      space. The risk of groundlooping into a parked airplane isn't worth it. 
      Go early or go elsewhere, and carry good insurance.
      
        5. Flight planning - When planning a flight to an unfamiliar airport 
      don't assume there will be usable grass. Quite often there is usable 
      grass next to the runway but check ahead with the airport operator and 
      have a usable alternate in mind. Google Earth is a great tool for 
      checking out airports but it doesn't always give good detail like 
      ditches and hazards hidden in the grass.
      
        6. Cool factor - As if a Pietenpol isn't cool enough, the skid will 
      set you apart.
      
        Greg Cardinal
      
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: helspersew@aol.com 
          To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
          Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:02 PM
          Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update
      
      
          Jeff,
      
          Gorgeous airplane!! You gonna be able to taxi around there with the 
      skid? Greg Cardinal has a great solution, welding on hardened drill rod 
      to the bottom of the skid plate. A great idea that I myself copied!
      
          Dan helsper
          Puryear, TN
          -----Original Message-----
          From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
          To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
          Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:43 pm
          Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update
      
      
      <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
      
      Well gents...
      I have some wiring to do and a few little panels to make.. some touch up 
      here 
      and there... but here it is... pretty much together..
      
      looking forward to taxiing around and trying her out..
      
      jeff
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383003#383003
      
      
      " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      tp://forums.matronics.com
      _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
      href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat
      ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
      href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
      
      
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| Subject:  | two great looking new ones!! | 
      
      WOW, what nice new planes!!!
      
      
      Great work guys!!
      
      
      Jeff, where in KY are you?  I'm between Lex and Cinci.
      
      
      Douwe
      
      
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| Subject:  | Assembling Mag. to Engine | 
      
      Crew, I have completed a mag. overhaul and am wanting to attach it to the e
      ngine. Per the engine manual, I have found TDC and have the engine clocked 
      at 30 deg. BTDC.
      
      The mag. I want to install has an impulse coupler and will go in the left s
      ide mag. opening.- I am not sure at what orientation/rotation the mag. it
      self needs to be in when I bolt it to the engine.-- I would imagine one
       gear tooth off in either direction in relation to the engine gear would ca
      use problems.
      
      Thanks up front.
      
      Michael Perez
      =0APietenpol HINT Videos
      =0AKaretaker Aero
      =0Awww.karetakeraero.com
      
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      Great looking airplane! It definitely has a period look to it.  
      
      Grab you scarf and goggles and let's see it moving!  Sitting still it looks like
      a museum piece.
      
      --------
      Curt Merdan
      Flower Mound, TX
      
      Do Not Archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383044#383044
      
      
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| Subject:  | New Data Plate...P.C.? | 
      
      My new engine data plate has a box under the "C.R." box labled "P.C".- Wh
      at does P.C. stand for? More directly, what should I stamp in this PC box?
      
      Michael Perez
      =0APietenpol HINT Videos
      =0AKaretaker Aero
      =0Awww.karetakeraero.com
      
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| Subject:  | Re: First run of Corvair on Pietenpol | 
      
      
      Kevin:
      
      That might explain some of the things my wife said after the ride - i.e. no longer
      being in my right mind and such. 8^)
      
      Stinemetze
      do not archive
      
      >>> "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> 9/13/2012 9:28 PM >>>
      
      @Tom - Exhaust is very similar to what you rode behind last year:).
      
      do not archive
      
      --------
      Kevin "Axel" Purtee
      NX899KP
      Austin/San Marcos, TX
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383028#383028 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Assembling Mag. to Engine | 
      
      This would help...
      
      The mags are Eisemann AM-4.- 
      
      Michael Perez
      =0APietenpol HINT Videos
      =0AKaretaker Aero
      =0Awww.karetakeraero.com
      =0A
      
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| Subject:  | Re: First run of Corvair on Pietenpol | 
      
      
      Bob:
      
      I was just shooting my mouth off about something I have no direct experience with
      except for one ride in Kevin's FBG.  No, I did not notice any exhaust fumes
      on that flight and Kevin would surely have mentioned it if that was one of the
      things that he was planning to change.  I just wish I was that far along with
      mine.
      
      Tom Stinemetze
      McPherson, KS.
      
      >>> "caldwrl" <caldwrl@etex.net> 9/14/2012 7:32 AM >>>
      
      Kevin's exhaust stacks gave me the idea for mine.  And I figure there's lots of
      clean air flowing around the fuselage at 80 mph (well, maybe not that fast)...
      but that's my thinking. In fact, I don't remember smelling the exhaust at all
      as I stood in the prop wash.
      
      The exhausts are made from the standard Corvair "U" pipe I ordered from Clark's.
      I cut it in half, turned one half 180 degrees and welded it back into an "S"
      shape.  I sliced the end parallel to the airflow and put in some louvres per
      Tony B.  Simple and easy, which I like both, and sort of retro.
      
      I'll keep this in mind, however, and when she finally takes to the air it will
      be a checklist item I will mark off or change.
      
      Besides, Kevin has been one of my hero for years now, and still is. So, I will
      take the liberty to copy any of FBG's attributes and future improvements, unless
      Kevin says otherwise.
      
      --------
      Robert Caldwell
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383040#383040 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Mag. Tag Numbers | 
      
      Attached is a photo showing the old tag and its numbers from one of my Eise
      mann AM-4s.- Where should these numbers be placed on the new tag?- (Whi
      ch is model, number, serial number, etc.)
      
      Michael Perez
      =0APietenpol HINT Videos
      =0AKaretaker Aero
      =0Awww.karetakeraero.com
      
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      Gorgeous, Jeff.  Another Black & Yellow German!
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender
      Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:43 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update
      
      
      Well gents...
      I have some wiring to do and a few little panels to make.. some touch up
      here and there... but here it is... pretty much together..
      
      looking forward to taxiing around and trying her out..
      
      jeff
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383003#383003
      
      
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      There are several Pietenpols that are great examples of the real beauty of this
      wonderful design.
      
      This is one of those.....
      
      Simple elegant beauty.
      
      Congratulations!
      
      
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| Subject:  | RE: Jeff's new Piet | 
      
      Beautiful job, Jeff. With all the Piets now in KY, VA, NC, WV and MD, we ou
      ght to have a mid-Atlantic Piet get together to terrorize the spam cans! I 
      look forward to seeing your airplane in person and flying.
      
      Matt Paxton
      NX629ML
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Assembling Mag. to Engine | 
      
      Found it!- (You'll never guess where...)
      
      Michael Perez
      =0APietenpol HINT Videos
      =0AKaretaker Aero
      =0Awww.karetakeraero.com
      =0A
      
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      Beautiful, Jeff! I see the black and yellow Germans are gaining strength!
      
      Gary from Cool
      ------Original Message------
      From: bender
      Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update
      Sent: Sep 13, 2012 1:42 PM
      
      
      Well gents...
      I have some wiring to do and a few little panels to make.. some touch up here and
      there... but here it is... pretty much together..
      
      looking forward to taxiing around and trying her out..
      
      jeff
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383003#383003
      
      
      Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
      
      
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      Need to dispel this rumor. Jeff's airplane is actually dark green. But ther
      e IS another black and yellow copy-job about to make it's debut. I don't wa
      nt to mention any names, but the initials are G.R.
      
      Dan Helsper
      Puryear, TN
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net>
      Sent: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 9:33 am
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update
      
      
      
      Beautiful, Jeff! I see the black and yellow Germans are gaining strength!
      
      Gary from Cool
      ------Original Message------
      From: bender
      Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update
      Sent: Sep 13, 2012 1:42 PM
      
      >
      
      Well gents...
      I have some wiring to do and a few little panels to make.. some touch up he
      re 
      and there... but here it is... pretty much together..
      
      looking forward to taxiing around and trying her out..
      
      jeff
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383003#383003
      
      
      Sent on the Sprint=C2=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=C2=AE
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Update and tailskid operations | 
      
      
      Thanks... i do have brakes.. 
      i'm looking forward to taxiing it around to see how it goes.. 
      i have a wheel around but i'm hoping not to use it
      I wondered about the UHMW and if it would last at all
      
      i actually have a piece of an old tire screwed to the plate now..
      not sure it would last long at all but i thought i would try a couple of replaceable
      shoes and see if anything worked
      
      jeff
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383062#383062
      
      
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      Thanks for the kind words..
      
      it is green for sure... really dark green.. but green.
      and the wing is a creamy tan... my wife says it looks the same color as the Birch
      ply that was all over the plane.
      
      I actually don't have the inspection scheduled yet..I was hoping to get an FAA
      guy to come over if i can talk one into it.. they are close and free.
      
      The nose bowl is kinda funny...i made one like the plans then was throwing away
      some old junk when i noticed one of those floor lamps the points up... the reflector
      after some trimming worked perfect for a nose.
      i heard about the lid to a wok being used the same way too.
      
      Jeff
      SDF Lou ky
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383065#383065
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: two great looking new ones!! | 
      
      
      thanks Douwe.
      I'm in Louisville... the plane is at sdf..
      louisville intergalactic airport.
       it a little busier than some but mostly at midnight a 6am when UPS is busy.. the
      10000 foot runway is almost big enough
      
      jeff
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383066#383066
      
      
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      No wonder Jeff's plane looked so good.  So we have the good guys (the Green
      & Cream Team) against the Black & Yellow Germans.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      helspersew@aol.com
      Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:50 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update
      
      
      Need to dispel this rumor. Jeff's airplane is actually dark green. But there
      IS another black and yellow copy-job about to make it's debut. I don't want
      to mention any names, but the initials are G.R.
      
      
      Dan Helsper
      
      Puryear, TN
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net>
      Sent: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 9:33 am
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update
      
      
      Beautiful, Jeff! I see the black and yellow Germans are gaining strength!
      
      Gary from Cool
      ------Original Message------
      From: bender
      Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update
      Sent: Sep 13, 2012 1:42 PM
      
      
      Well gents...
      I have some wiring to do and a few little panels to make.. some touch up
      here 
      and there... but here it is... pretty much together..
      
      looking forward to taxiing around and trying her out..
      
      jeff
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383003#383003
      
      
      Sent on the SprintR Now Network from my BlackBerryR
      
      
      " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      tp://forums.matronics.com
      _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
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      No wonder Jeff's plane looked so good.  So we have the good guys (the Green
      & Cream Team) against the Black & Yellow Germans.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      helspersew@aol.com
      Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:50 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update
      
      
      Need to dispel this rumor. Jeff's airplane is actually dark green. But there
      IS another black and yellow copy-job about to make it's debut. I don't want
      to mention any names, but the initials are G.R.
      
      
      Dan Helsper
      
      Puryear, TN
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net>
      Sent: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 9:33 am
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update
      
      
      Beautiful, Jeff! I see the black and yellow Germans are gaining strength!
      
      Gary from Cool
      ------Original Message------
      From: bender
      Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update
      Sent: Sep 13, 2012 1:42 PM
      
      
      Well gents...
      I have some wiring to do and a few little panels to make.. some touch up
      here 
      and there... but here it is... pretty much together..
      
      looking forward to taxiing around and trying her out..
      
      jeff
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383003#383003
      
      
      Sent on the SprintR Now Network from my BlackBerryR
      
      
      " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      tp://forums.matronics.com
      _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: RE: Jeff's new Piet | 
      
      They also build them in pa and have nice airports with plenty of tie down sp
      ace 
      
      Juss sayin
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:08 AM, woodflier@aol.com wrote:
      
      > Beautiful job, Jeff. With all the Piets now in KY, VA, NC, WV and MD, we o
      ught to have a mid-Atlantic Piet get together to terrorize the spam cans! I l
      ook forward to seeing your airplane in person and flying.
      > 
      > Matt Paxton
      > NX629ML
      >  
      > 
      ==========================
      =========
      ==========================
      =========
      ==========================
      =========
      ==========================
      =========
      > 
      
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| Subject:  | How to remove Latex paint from fabric | 
      
      
      Before anything else, Jeff: congratulation for the Piet!!!, for me, here far away
      from all those hand made flaying machines, its a .... pleasure?/confort?..
      I do not know how to said it.. see came out  one after anoher with success.
      Now my little add..
      
      Few months ago I ask how to make certain repair in the rudder.. I install a wrong
      horn on it, cover the rudder, and paint it with latex to learn, and see how
      latex work, later I discover the mistake... and the best answer I had was "cut,
      replace it and learn how to do it"... 
      OK, I am in the process.. I do not care to cut, and replace it, the problem for
      me was the paint. How can I go to the fabric without damage it with the sand
      paper?... I do  not like that idea.. but if there is no other?.. I ask in paint
      houses if there is anything to remove the paint chemicaly.. the answer was nothing,
      so sand?.. so today I was in the garage doing others things and I saw
      a bottle of Tolueno that I use to clean the brushes I use to apply contac cement.
      and I try with it.. incredibel.. look this pictures here
      
      http://vgmk1.blogspot.com/2012/09/como-arreglar-un-agujero-y-rejadura-en.html
      
      the fabric is like new.. without traces of the paint... 
      So, if you are working with latex paint remember, tolueno (in english may be TOLUEN?)
      
      Regards
      
      --------
      Mario Giacummo
      http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383081#383081
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric | 
      
      
      Well, this is perfect timing for me!  I may be removing some latex (the hand painted
      numbers) from my rudder....looks like this will do the job!
      
      Also, I didn't like the way the latex worked on aluminum cowling and found that
      acetone or mineral spirits (that's all I've tried so far) worked fine to remove
      it from aluminum.
      
      But this looks better for fabric.
      
      Ringraziarla per la grand'idea!
      
      Jim in Pryor....just ouside Rome...
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: giacummo <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
      >Sent: Sep 14, 2012 11:22 AM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: How to remove Latex paint from fabric
      >
      >
      >Before anything else, Jeff: congratulation for the Piet!!!, for me, here far away
      from all those hand made flaying machines, its a .... pleasure?/confort?..
      I do not know how to said it.. see came out  one after anoher with success.
      >Now my little add..
      >
      >Few months ago I ask how to make certain repair in the rudder.. I install a wrong
      horn on it, cover the rudder, and paint it with latex to learn, and see how
      latex work, later I discover the mistake... and the best answer I had was "cut,
      replace it and learn how to do it"... 
      >OK, I am in the process.. I do not care to cut, and replace it, the problem for
      me was the paint. How can I go to the fabric without damage it with the sand
      paper?... I do  not like that idea.. but if there is no other?.. I ask in paint
      houses if there is anything to remove the paint chemicaly.. the answer was
      nothing, so sand?.. so today I was in the garage doing others things and I saw
      a bottle of Tolueno that I use to clean the brushes I use to apply contac cement.
      and I try with it.. incredibel.. look this pictures here
      >
      >http://vgmk1.blogspot.com/2012/09/como-arreglar-un-agujero-y-rejadura-en.html
      >
      >the fabric is like new.. without traces of the paint... 
      >So, if you are working with latex paint remember, tolueno (in english may be TOLUEN?)
      >
      >Regards
      >
      >--------
      >Mario Giacummo
      >http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
      >
      >
      >Read this topic online here:
      >
      >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383081#383081
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | avgas compatibility with latex?  | 
      
      Tm90IHRoYXQgSSBldmVyIHBsYW4gb24gdXNpbmcgbGF0ZXggb24gbXkgYWlycGxhbmUsIGhvd2V2
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| Subject:  | How to remove Latex paint from  fabric | 
      
      
      I meant to say:
      
      Gracias por la gran idea!
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      >Sent: Sep 14, 2012 11:48 AM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: How to remove Latex paint from fabric
      >
      >Well, this is perfect timing for me!  I may be removing some latex (the hand painted
      numbers) from my rudder....looks like this will do the job!
      >
      >Also, I didn't like the way the latex worked on aluminum cowling and found that
      acetone or mineral spirits (that's all I've tried so far) worked fine to remove
      it from aluminum.
      >
      >But this looks better for fabric.
      >
      >Ringraziarla per la grand'idea!
      >
      >Jim in Pryor....just ouside Rome...
      >
      >
      >-----Original Message-----
      >>From: giacummo <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
      >>Sent: Sep 14, 2012 11:22 AM
      >>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >>Subject: Pietenpol-List: How to remove Latex paint from fabric
      >>
      >>
      >>Before anything else, Jeff: congratulation for the Piet!!!, for me, here far
      away from all those hand made flaying machines, its a .... pleasure?/confort?..
      I do not know how to said it.. see came out  one after anoher with success.
      >>Now my little add..
      >>
      >>Few months ago I ask how to make certain repair in the rudder.. I install a wrong
      horn on it, cover the rudder, and paint it with latex to learn, and see how
      latex work, later I discover the mistake... and the best answer I had was "cut,
      replace it and learn how to do it"... 
      >>OK, I am in the process.. I do not care to cut, and replace it, the problem for
      me was the paint. How can I go to the fabric without damage it with the sand
      paper?... I do  not like that idea.. but if there is no other?.. I ask in paint
      houses if there is anything to remove the paint chemicaly.. the answer was
      nothing, so sand?.. so today I was in the garage doing others things and I saw
      a bottle of Tolueno that I use to clean the brushes I use to apply contac cement.
      and I try with it.. incredibel.. look this pictures here
      >>
      >>http://vgmk1.blogspot.com/2012/09/como-arreglar-un-agujero-y-rejadura-en.html
      >>
      >>the fabric is like new.. without traces of the paint... 
      >>So, if you are working with latex paint remember, tolueno (in english may be
      TOLUEN?)
      >>
      >>Regards
      >>
      >>--------
      >>Mario Giacummo
      >>http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>Read this topic online here:
      >>
      >>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383081#383081
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jack Phillips Tailwheel | 
      
      
      Jack did you order 2 of the same springs.  If so I assume you has to modify one
      of them (shorten/bend it).
      
      --------
      Fred Kim
      Pittsburgh, Pa
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383089#383089
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jack Phillips Tailwheel | 
      
      
      To be honest, I simply don't remember.  I do remember that I got the spring
      from McMaster-Carr.
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FandS_Piet
      Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:08 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jack Phillips Tailwheel
      
      
      Jack did you order 2 of the same springs.  If so I assume you has to modify
      one of them (shorten/bend it).
      
      --------
      Fred Kim
      Pittsburgh, Pa
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383089#383089
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric | 
      
      
      Mario,
      
      In english I believe it's toluene.  Not sure if it's available like that or not
      from typical retailers, but would be the active ingredient in "brush cleaners",
      paint strippers and the like.
      
      Not sure, but it also may be in a couple products commonly available here in the
      states as "Goof Off" or "Oops", which are both capable of removing dried latex
      paint.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383097#383097
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: avgas compatibility with latex? | 
      
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      Try normal paint stripper from the hardware store.  That will take it off 
      just fine.  Scrape the residue off with a sharp plastic scraper then wash 
      the remaining residue off.
      Dick N.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
      Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:22 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: How to remove Latex paint from fabric
      
      
      > <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
      >
      > Before anything else, Jeff: congratulation for the Piet!!!, for me, here 
      > far away from all those hand made flaying machines, its a .... 
      > pleasure?/confort?.. I do not know how to said it.. see came out  one 
      > after anoher with success.
      > Now my little add..
      >
      > Few months ago I ask how to make certain repair in the rudder.. I install 
      > a wrong horn on it, cover the rudder, and paint it with latex to learn, 
      > and see how latex work, later I discover the mistake... and the best 
      > answer I had was "cut, replace it and learn how to do it"...
      > OK, I am in the process.. I do not care to cut, and replace it, the 
      > problem for me was the paint. How can I go to the fabric without damage it 
      > with the sand paper?... I do  not like that idea.. but if there is no 
      > other?.. I ask in paint houses if there is anything to remove the paint 
      > chemicaly.. the answer was nothing, so sand?.. so today I was in the 
      > garage doing others things and I saw a bottle of Tolueno that I use to 
      > clean the brushes I use to apply contac cement. and I try with it.. 
      > incredibel.. look this pictures here
      >
      > http://vgmk1.blogspot.com/2012/09/como-arreglar-un-agujero-y-rejadura-en.html
      >
      > the fabric is like new.. without traces of the paint...
      > So, if you are working with latex paint remember, tolueno (in english may 
      > be TOLUEN?)
      >
      > Regards
      >
      > --------
      > Mario Giacummo
      > http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383081#383081
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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      Hey Mike 
      House paint does hold up to both types of gas and oil.
      Dick N.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: gboothe5@comcast.net 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:30 PM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex?
      
      
        Not good!
      
        Gary from Cool
        Sent on the Sprint=C2=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=C2=AE
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -----
      
        From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" 
      <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> 
        Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com 
        Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:01:31 -0500
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
        ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex?
      
      
        Not that I ever plan on using latex on my airplane, however.....for 
      the guys who
      
        are flying with latex, will be flying with latex or have done testing, 
      how does it hold up to auto or 100LL avgas?
      
         
      
        Mike C.
      
         
      
         
      
      
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      no, no, no ... Toluene  is THE BEST, I discover it first.. ;o)))
      
      Mario Giacummo
      . -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /
      ...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .
      
      not archive
      
      2012/9/14 Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net>
      
      >
      > Try normal paint stripper from the hardware store.  That will take it off
      > just fine.  Scrape the residue off with a sharp plastic scraper then wash
      > the remaining residue off.
      > Dick N.
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
      > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:22 AM
      >
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: How to remove Latex paint from fabric
      >
      >
      >> mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
      >>
      >> Before anything else, Jeff: congratulation for the Piet!!!, for me, here
      >> far away from all those hand made flaying machines, its a ....
      >> pleasure?/confort?.. I do not know how to said it.. see came out  one after
      >> anoher with success.
      >> Now my little add..
      >>
      >> Few months ago I ask how to make certain repair in the rudder.. I install
      >> a wrong horn on it, cover the rudder, and paint it with latex to learn, and
      >> see how latex work, later I discover the mistake... and the best answer I
      >> had was "cut, replace it and learn how to do it"...
      >> OK, I am in the process.. I do not care to cut, and replace it, the
      >> problem for me was the paint. How can I go to the fabric without damage it
      >> with the sand paper?... I do  not like that idea.. but if there is no
      >> other?.. I ask in paint houses if there is anything to remove the paint
      >> chemicaly.. the answer was nothing, so sand?.. so today I was in the garage
      >> doing others things and I saw a bottle of Tolueno that I use to clean the
      >> brushes I use to apply contac cement. and I try with it.. incredibel.. look
      >> this pictures here
      >>
      >> http://vgmk1.blogspot.com/**2012/09/como-arreglar-un-**
      >> agujero-y-rejadura-en.html<http://vgmk1.blogspot.com/2012/09/como-arreglar-un-agujero-y-rejadura-en.html>
      >>
      >> the fabric is like new.. without traces of the paint...
      >> So, if you are working with latex paint remember, tolueno (in english may
      >> be TOLUEN?)
      >>
      >> Regards
      >>
      >> --------
      >> Mario Giacummo
      >> http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Read this topic online here:
      >>
      >> http://forums.matronics.com/**viewtopic.php?p=383081#383081<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383081#383081>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
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      http://www.questiongravity.com/airbike/latex1.htm
      
      Mario Giacummo
      . -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /
      ...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .
      
      
      2012/9/14 <gboothe5@comcast.net>
      
      > Not good!
      >
      > Gary from Cool
      > Sent on the Sprint=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=AE
      > ------------------------------
      > *From: * "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <
      > michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
      > *Sender: * owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      > *Date: *Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:01:31 -0500
      > *To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > *ReplyTo: * pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject: *Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex?
      >
      > Not that I ever plan on using latex on my airplane, however.....for the
      > guys who****
      >
      > are flying with latex, will be flying with latex or have done testing, ho
      w
      > does it hold up to auto or 100LL avgas?****
      >
      > ** **
      >
      > Mike C.****
      >
      > ** **
      >
      > ** **
      >
      > [image: Description:
      > http://www.planitdiy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/village_roller_cover.
      png]
      > ****
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Service Advisory: SA 1224 fly.garmin.com | 
      
      Good info for the iPietenpol crowd
      
       :-)
      
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      Subject: Service Advisory: SA 1224 fly.garmin.com
      
      
       Please see attached file.
      
      If you have any questions please contact Garmin product support at
      1-800-800-1020
      
      Thank you,
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| Subject:  | Re: avgas compatibility with latex? | 
      
      we have a little stain from a leak that was in the fuel gauge, but it's not
       too bad with 100LL, as long as you let it evaporate and don't wipe it whil
      e it is wet.=C2- I don't know, but I would NOT want to spill auto gas on 
      it.
      =C2-
      Shad
      
      --- On Fri, 9/14/12, Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote:
      
      
      From: Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex?
      
      
      =EF=BB 
      
      
      Hey Mike 
      House paint does hold up to both types of gas and oil.
      Dick N.
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: gboothe5@comcast.net 
      Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:30 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex?
      
      Not good!
      
      Gary from Cool 
      Sent on the Sprint=C2=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=C2=AE
      
      
      From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@na
      sa.gov> 
      Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com 
      ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex?
      
      
      Not that I ever plan on using latex on my airplane, however.....for the guy
      s who
      are flying with latex, will be flying with latex or have done testing, how 
      does it hold up to auto or 100LL avgas?
      =C2-
      Mike C.
      =C2-
      =C2-
      
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| Subject:  | Re: How to remove Latex paint from fabric | 
      
      I used MEK to take off paint to patch the wing when a piece of aluminum gut
      ter fell on it a few years ago it worked great.- The MEK took it right do
      wn to bare fabric in about a minute, then I washed the fabric with soap and
       water, applied the patch, and repainted.- It worked great.
      -
      Shad
      
      --- On Fri, 9/14/12, Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote:
      
      
      From: Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: How to remove Latex paint from fabric
      
      
      
      Try normal paint stripper from the hardware store.- That will take it off
       just fine.- Scrape the residue off with a sharp plastic scraper then was
      h the remaining residue off.
      Dick N.
      ----- Original Message ----- From: "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
      Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:22 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: How to remove Latex paint from fabric
      
      
      m>
      > 
      > Before anything else, Jeff: congratulation for the Piet!!!, for me, here 
      far away from all those hand made flaying machines, its a .... pleasure?/co
      nfort?.. I do not know how to said it.. see came out- one after anoher wi
      th success.
      > Now my little add..
      > 
      > Few months ago I ask how to make certain repair in the rudder.. I install
       a wrong horn on it, cover the rudder, and paint it with latex to learn, an
      d see how latex work, later I discover the mistake... and the best answer I
       had was "cut, replace it and learn how to do it"...
      > OK, I am in the process.. I do not care to cut, and replace it, the probl
      em for me was the paint. How can I go to the fabric without damage it with 
      the sand paper?... I do- not like that idea.. but if there is no other?..
       I ask in paint houses if there is anything to remove the paint chemicaly..
       the answer was nothing, so sand?.. so today I was in the garage doing othe
      rs things and I saw a bottle of Tolueno that I use to clean the brushes I u
      se to apply contac cement. and I try with it.. incredibel.. look this pictu
      res here
      > 
      > http://vgmk1.blogspot.com/2012/09/como-arreglar-un-agujero-y-rejadura-en.
      html
      > 
      > the fabric is like new.. without traces of the paint...
      > So, if you are working with latex paint remember, tolueno (in english may
       be TOLUEN?)
      > 
      > Regards
      > 
      > --------
      > Mario Giacummo
      > http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383081#383081
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
      le, List Admin.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: avgas compatibility with latex? | 
      
      I've spilled auto gas around the filler neck, sometimes it runs, sometimes
      stains.  Someday I might need to re-cover the center section.  It has never
      made me decide to not go flying.
      
      Andrew Eldredge
      Provo, UT
      
      
      On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      > we have a little stain from a leak that was in the fuel gauge, but it's
      > not too bad with 100LL, as long as you let it evaporate and don't wipe it
      > while it is wet.  I don't know, but I would NOT want to spill auto gas on
      > it.
      >
      > Shad
      >
      > --- On *Fri, 9/14/12, Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net>* wrote:
      >
      >
      > From: Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net>
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex?
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Date: Friday, September 14, 2012, 3:45 PM
      >
      > =EF=BB
      > Hey Mike
      > House paint does hold up to both types of gas and oil.
      > Dick N.
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > *From:* gboothe5@comcast.net<http://us.mc1612.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?t
      o=gboothe5@comcast.net>
      > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com<http://us.mc1612.mail.yahoo.com/mc/com
      pose?to=pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2012 1:30 PM
      > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex?
      >
      > Not good!
      >
      > Gary from Cool
      > Sent on the Sprint=C2=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=C2=AE
      > ------------------------------
      > *From: *"Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <
      > michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov<http://us.mc1612.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mi
      chael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>>
      >
      > *Sender: *owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com<http://us.mc1612.mail
      .yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com>
      > *Date: *Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:01:31 -0500
      > *To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com<pietenpol-list@matronics.com<http://us
      .mc1612.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pietenpol-list@matronics.com%3Cpiete
      npol-list@matronics.com>
      > >
      > *ReplyTo: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com<http://us.mc1612.mail.yahoo.com/m
      c/compose?to=pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > *Subject: *Pietenpol-List: avgas compatibility with latex?
      >
      >  Not that I ever plan on using latex on my airplane, however.....for the
      > guys who
      >
      > are flying with latex, will be flying with latex or have done testing, ho
      w
      > does it hold up to auto or 100LL avgas?
      >
      >
      > Mike C.
      >
      >
      > [image: Description:
      > http://www.planitdiy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/village_roller_cover.
      png]
      >
      >
      
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      Jeff:
      She is a beauty, on a sustained climb you might need a steam vent from the top,
      front of the head like all Fords require such a vent.
      Pieti Lowell
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383125#383125
      
      
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| Subject:  | Original Sky Scout installed in Model T Museum | 
      
      
      Richmond, IN
      
      http://www.pal-item.com/videonetwork/1836243670001/Model-T-Ford-Club-of-America-welcomes-new-addition?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1
      
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=h3m6ZWgNJMg&NR=1
      
      
      -
      
      --------
      do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383139#383139
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Original Sky Scout installed in Model T Museum | 
      
      This should fix the Pal-Item link:
      
      http://www.pal-item.com/videonetwork/1836243670001/Model-T-Ford-Club-of-America-welcomes-new-addition
      
      The "check" portions of the first link shunt you to a subscriber popup,
      then just to the homepage if you don't want to register. After the ad the
      video should play with the above link
      
      On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Baldeagle <baldeagle27@earthlink.net>wrote:
      
      > baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
      >
      > Richmond, IN
      >
      >
      > http://www.pal-item.com/videonetwork/1836243670001/Model-T-Ford-Club-of-America-welcomes-new-addition?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1
      >
      >
      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=h3m6ZWgNJMg&NR=1
      >
      >
      > -
      >
      > --------
      > do not archive
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
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