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5. 02:57 PM - Re: Chick Magnet is Kicking In (Jim Boyer)
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 09/15/12 |
If anyone is in need of sweet running A65 with millennium cylinders, fresh
annual,about 300 hrs, -have my whole air camper for sale for around $6000
. Sure it's one of a kind and little on the heavy side (780 empty), but I b
een flying it for 14yrs had tons of fun. For the price of an engine you cou
ld be flying right off plus get full instruments, Tenn. prop, wheels,tires,
brakes, brake clyinders-(pedal mounted) ,tail wheel, gascolator, landing
gear (cub style) , primer turnbuckles ,hardware etc. This aircraft is not
junk her annual was just 3 months ago. I have bought a Taylorcraft project
and priced the Air camper to move so as to have money to finish the t craft
. The reason I say around $6000 is the t craft came with bendix mags that h
ad the shaft shortened to fit the A65, the inspector says all though they s
hould be fine it is not proper for certified ( miss experimental already) s
o will swapping out the slicks that are in the Air camper. This is out
of my comfort zone so either buyer will have to do or I will have to hire
them changed and that is why final price will have to be agreed upon. Plane
is in Maine, I could fly it a reasonable distance to deliver or it could b
e trailered wing come off pretty easy.
miken77800
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Subject: Pietenpol-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 09/15/12
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- ---1. 04:26 AM - Re: Update- (Don Emch)
- ---2. 02:39 PM - Jeff's external aileron cables- (nightmare)
- ---3. 02:46 PM - Chick Magnet is Kicking In- (Gary Boothe)
- ---4. 02:52 PM - need help deciding on powerplant- (nightmare)
- ---5. 02:52 PM - need help deciding on powerplant- (nightmare)
- ---6. 03:07 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (Gary Bo
othe)
- ---7. 03:22 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (Ryan Mu
eller)
- ---8. 03:46 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (IT Girl
)
- ---9. 04:06 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (IT Girl
)
- - 10. 04:51 PM - Re: Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (Ken Bic
kers)
- - 11. 06:13 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (Pietn38b@ao
l.com)
- - 12. 06:21 PM - flop- (Daniel Engelkenjohn)
- - 13. 06:47 PM - Re: Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (Jack Ph
illips)
- - 14. 06:55 PM - Re: flop- (Ryan Mueller)
- - 15. 07:06 PM - Re: Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (Ryan Mu
eller)
- - 16. 07:18 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (IT Girl)
- - 17. 09:20 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (nightmare)
- - 18. 09:43 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (K5YAC)
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Time: 04:26:49 AM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Update
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Jeff,
Very, very nice.- I love the look.- Didn't you start building that thin
g like...
last month!?
And yes... Welcome to the Green and Cream Team!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Time: 02:39:17 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jeff's external aileron cables
From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
Are there any plans/drawings on that external aileron setup? Thanks; Paul
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Time: 02:46:02 PM PST US
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Chick Magnet is Kicking In
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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Time: 02:52:24 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: need help deciding on powerplant
From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
I may be flip flopping. Lately have been leaning heavily towards a Continen
tal.
from a65 to 0200.- I'm trying to keep an open mind and wanted some opinio
ns on
the Corvair.
---What could i expect to spend on the lower horsepower corvair with
no starter,
alternator. Just bare bones, hand propping action. the only splurge would b
e
to put the other cam in it so it turns the "right" way. And i would be doin
g
all the work myself. I'm going to talk to the folks over at flycorvair.com,
but
i also wanted some real Piet builders opinions. Thanks; Paul
--------
Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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Time: 02:52:31 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: need help deciding on powerplant
From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
I may be flip flopping. Lately have been leaning heavily towards a Continen
tal.
from a65 to 0200.- I'm trying to keep an open mind and wanted some opinio
ns on
the Corvair.
---What could i expect to spend on the lower horsepower corvair with
no starter,
alternator. Just bare bones, hand propping action. the only splurge would b
e
to put the other cam in it so it turns the "right" way. And i would be doin
g
all the work myself. I'm going to talk to the folks over at flycorvair.com,
but
i also wanted some real Piet builders opinions. Thanks; Paul
--------
Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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Time: 03:07:58 PM PST US
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: need help deciding on powerplant
Paul,
Just my humble opinion....
Do not sell short the starter/alternator combo, for several reasons:-
1) You're only talking about a few hundred dollars;
2) The corvair is not comfortable to prop (I've done it...compression occur
s
at a lower position);
3) The safety factor is HUGE! William Wynne will tell you the same thing.
As for which way the prop turns...I'm elated that my prop spins the same wa
y
as a Spitfire!!
Stop flip/flopping, sign up for the next Corvair College in Barnwell, SC,
and get on with your project.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nightmare
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 2:52 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: need help deciding on powerplant
--> <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
I may be flip flopping. Lately have been leaning heavily towards a
Continental. from a65 to 0200.- I'm trying to keep an open mind and wante
d
some opinions on the Corvair.
---What could i expect to spend on the lower horsepower corvair with
no
starter, alternator. Just bare bones, hand propping action. the only splurg
e
would be to put the other cam in it so it turns the "right" way. And i woul
d
be doing all the work myself. I'm going to talk to the folks over at
flycorvair.com, but i also wanted some real Piet builders opinions. Thanks;
Paul
--------
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Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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Time: 03:22:00 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: need help deciding on powerplant
From: Ryan Mueller <ryan@rmueller.org>
Well, I started typing, but Gary beat me too it....so I'll just have to
say: I concur.
There's zero point in reversing the rotation. Having hand-propped a Corvair
(not even a fresh engine, it was the Last Original before the rebuild): no
thank you. So much nicer to be able to just climb in and push a button. The
starter is well worth the money. And why bother worrying about having to
charge a battery to power your ignition?
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> Just my humble opinion....
>
> Do not sell short the starter/alternator combo, for several reasons:
>
> 1) You're only talking about a few hundred dollars;
> 2) The corvair is not comfortable to prop (I've done it...compression
> occurs
> at a lower position);
> 3) The safety factor is HUGE! William Wynne will tell you the same thing.
>
> As for which way the prop turns...I'm elated that my prop spins the same
> way
> as a Spitfire!!
>
> Stop flip/flopping, sign up for the next Corvair College in Barnwell, SC,
> and get on with your project.
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nightmare
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 2:52 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: need help deciding on powerplant
>
> --> <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
>
> I may be flip flopping. Lately have been leaning heavily towards a
> Continental. from a65 to 0200.- I'm trying to keep an open mind and wan
ted
> some opinions on the Corvair.
>- - What could i expect to spend on the lower horsepower corvair with
no
> starter, alternator. Just bare bones, hand propping action. the only
> splurge
> would be to put the other cam in it so it turns the "right" way. And i
> would
> be doing all the work myself. I'm going to talk to the folks over at
> flycorvair.com, but i also wanted some real Piet builders opinions.
> Thanks;
> Paul
>
> --------
> Paul Donahue
> Started 8-3-12
> do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383191#383191
>
>
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Time: 03:46:17 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
From: "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com>
Here Here!!
--------
Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Time: 04:06:01 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
From: "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com>
Here is the thing.- Your power plant choice is really your own.- You wi
ll get strong
opinions here from everyone, based on their personal choice.- Bottom line
it is your decision.- Talk with some of the guys about the flight charact
eristics
you need, and the geographic locations where you will do the most flying.
You will come to a decision about what powerplant is right for you, based o
n
your needs and your budget.
For example, if you are leaning toward a certified engine, you are probably
looking
at an immediate outlay of expense in a lump sum, where building a corvair
can be done piecemeal as you can afford it.- An added benefit is that you
built
it, you know how it is put together, and can likely fix it when it needs ma
intenance
(my opinion).
Grace and William at FLycorvair will guide you through the process with the
corvair,
but they will not guide you to any specific powerplant either.-
If you are able, please come to CC24 in Barnwell, SC.- Many people come t
o Corvair
College to help make their decision about power plants.- If you cant make
CC24, we will be hosting a Corvair College in Spring of 2014 in Austin, TX
Good luck.
--------
Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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________________________________- Message 10- _________________________
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Time: 04:51:55 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
Shelley, I can't make it to Barnwell for the upcoming Corvair College,
but will try my damndest to get to Austin for the one in the spring.
Do you have dates, even tentative ones, yet for the Austin CC?
Thanks, Ken
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 5:05 PM, IT Girl <shlizbth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here is the thing.- Your power plant choice is really your own.- You
will get
strong opinions here from everyone, based on their personal choice.- Bott
om line
it is your decision.- Talk with some of the guys about the flight charact
eristics
you need, and the geographic locations where you will do the most flying.
You will come to a decision about what powerplant is right for you, based
on your needs and your budget.
>
> For example, if you are leaning toward a certified engine, you are probab
ly looking
at an immediate outlay of expense in a lump sum, where building a corvair
can be done piecemeal as you can afford it.- An added benefit is that you
built
it, you know how it is put together, and can likely fix it when it needs
maintenance (my opinion).
>
> Grace and William at FLycorvair will guide you through the process with t
he corvair,
but they will not guide you to any specific powerplant either.
>
> If you are able, please come to CC24 in Barnwell, SC.- Many people come
to Corvair
College to help make their decision about power plants.- If you cant make
CC24, we will be hosting a Corvair College in Spring of 2014 in Austin, TX
> Good luck.
>
> --------
> Shelley Tumino
> IT Girl
> wife of "Axel"
> NX899KP
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383196#383196
>
>
________________________________- Message 11- _________________________
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Time: 06:13:55 PM PST US
From: Pietn38b@aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: need help deciding on powerplant
Paul
I now have three corvair powered aircraft.- The one in my piet is a-
plane-jane Pietenpol conversion.- I have had no trouble with hand proppin
g-
although since I put starters on the other two I have decided to put a star
ter
on
the Piet in the furture.- I also hand propped the DA-2A for the first-
500
hrs also.- Even though I really like the corvairs the little- continent
als
are hard to beat in a Piet, I've flown both.
Jim Ballew.-
In a message dated 9/15/2012 4:52:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,-
pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com writes:
-->- Pietenpol-List message posted by: "nightmare"-
<pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
I may be flip flopping. Lately have- been leaning heavily towards a
Continental. from a65 to 0200.- I'm trying- to keep an open mind and wa
nted some
opinions on the Corvair.
What could i expect to spend on the lower horsepower corvair with no
starter,- alternator. Just bare bones, hand propping action. the only spl
urge
would be- to put the other cam in it so it turns the "right" way. And i w
ould be
doing- all the work myself. I'm going to talk to the folks over at
flycorvair.com,- but i also wanted some real Piet builders opinions. Than
ks;- Paul
--------
Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not- archive
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Time: 06:21:21 PM PST US
From: "Daniel Engelkenjohn" <mushface1@gmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: flop
Are there any plans or dimensions for a center section flop available?
Dennis
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Time: 06:47:27 PM PST US
From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
-----Original Message-----
For example, if you are leaning toward a certified engine, you are probably
looking at an immediate outlay of expense in a lump sum, where building a
corvair can be done piecemeal as you can afford it.- An added benefit is
that you built it, you know how it is put together, and can likely fix it
when it needs maintenance (my opinion).
Not necessarily true.- I bought my Continental A65 as a box of parts, for
$1500.- Two years later I bought new Millenium cylinders for it.- A yea
r
later I sent the crankshaft and the crankcase out for overhaul and bought a
new camshaft.- A year later I assembled everything.- Total cost $7,500
for a
zero time vertified aircraft engine - very little more than a full-up
Corvair conversion with the fifth bearing.
As Shelley said, the deciding factor should be the type of flying you expec
t
to do and the terrain you will be flying over.- Will you be flying out of
short strips with tall trees?- If so you may need more power and opt for
a
Corvair, or an O-200 or O-235.
One thing to remember in choosing is how easy it may be to get service if
you have a problem away from home.- Most aircraft repair shops will not
touch an auto engine conversion, so while you might be able to repair a
Corvair or Ford very inexensively, you may not be able to repair it at all
when on a trip.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
________________________________- Message 14- _________________________
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Time: 06:55:07 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flop
From: Ryan Mueller <ryan@rmueller.org>
The flop is in the F&G Manual plans, but not in the later full size plans.
It's offset to the left in the original one piece wing plans, which would
make sense since you are stepping up and in from the left side. With the
three piece you either just flop the trailing portion of the center
section, or figure out how you might want to work out an offset portion to
the left. Part of the fun!
[image: Inline image 1]
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Daniel Engelkenjohn <mushface1@gmail.com>w
rote:
>---Are there any plans or dimensions for a center section flop avail
able?
>
> Dennis
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
________________________________- Message 15- _________________________
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Time: 07:06:02 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
From: Ryan Mueller <ryan@rmueller.org>
Just to play devil's advocate, 8 years ago you majored a 65HP aircraft
engine for $7500 (and odds are that price has not gone down, probably not
stayed the same, maybe increased a bit).....as opposed to the Corvair at
roughly the same price today, delivering 100HP....
But then it is 65HP to 100HP, and aircraft to auto conversion, so kind of
apples and oranges
;-)
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>wrot
e:
> pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> For example, if you are leaning toward a certified engine, you are probab
ly
> looking at an immediate outlay of expense in a lump sum, where building a
> corvair can be done piecemeal as you can afford it.- An added benefit i
s
> that you built it, you know how it is put together, and can likely fix it
> when it needs maintenance (my opinion).
>
> Not necessarily true.- I bought my Continental A65 as a box of parts, f
or
> $1500.- Two years later I bought new Millenium cylinders for it.- A y
ear
> later I sent the crankshaft and the crankcase out for overhaul and bought
a
> new camshaft.- A year later I assembled everything.- Total cost $7,50
0 for
> a
> zero time vertified aircraft engine - very little more than a full-up
> Corvair conversion with the fifth bearing.
>
> As Shelley said, the deciding factor should be the type of flying you
> expect
> to do and the terrain you will be flying over.- Will you be flying out
of
> short strips with tall trees?- If so you may need more power and opt fo
r a
> Corvair, or an O-200 or O-235.
>
> One thing to remember in choosing is how easy it may be to get service if
> you have a problem away from home.- Most aircraft repair shops will not
> touch an auto engine conversion, so while you might be able to repair a
> Corvair or Ford very inexensively, you may not be able to repair it at al
l
> when on a trip.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
>
________________________________- Message 16- _________________________
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Time: 07:18:10 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
From: "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com>
It will be Spring of 2014 Ken.- Kevin is doing really well, but I have mi
litary
obligations this spring that will have me out of the house for a month, and
I
can't leave him to do it all alone. We also want to have a fuselage built t
o
put our engine on for the CC.-
So pencil us in for March of 2014.
bickers.ken(at)gmail.com wrote:
> Shelley, I can't make it to Barnwell for the upcoming Corvair College,
> but will try my damndest to get to Austin for the one in the spring.
> Do you have dates, even tentative ones, yet for the Austin CC?
> Thanks, Ken
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 5:05 PM, IT Girl- wrote:
>
> >-
> >
> >- Here is the thing.- Your power plant choice is really your own.-
You will
get strong opinions here from everyone, based on their personal choice.-
Bottom
line it is your decision.- Talk with some of the guys about the flight ch
aracteristics
you need, and the geographic locations where you will do the most flying.
You will come to a decision about what powerplant is right for you, based
on your needs and your budget.
> >
> >- For example, if you are leaning toward a certified engine, you are p
robably
looking at an immediate outlay of expense in a lump sum, where building a c
orvair
can be done piecemeal as you can afford it.- An added benefit is that you
built it, you know how it is put together, and can likely fix it when it ne
eds
maintenance (my opinion).
> >
> >- Grace and William at FLycorvair will guide you through the process w
ith the
corvair, but they will not guide you to any specific powerplant either.
> >
> >- If you are able, please come to CC24 in Barnwell, SC.- Many people
come to
Corvair College to help make their decision about power plants.- If you c
ant
make CC24, we will be hosting a Corvair College in Spring of 2014 in Austin
, TX
> >- Good luck.
> >
> >- --------
> >- Shelley Tumino
> >- IT Girl
> >- wife of "Axel"
> >- NX899KP
> >
> >- DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >- Read this topic online here:
> >
> >- http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383196#383196
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Time: 09:20:34 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
This is good stuff guys and girl. i just assumed the corvair was just as ea
sy as
the cont s hand propping, but looks like maybe not so. The gradual emptying
of my wallet rather than dumping it all out at once, is something to think
about.
even though i dont know much about either, i have done complete rebuilds of
auto engines in the past, so i think i could handle working on either one.
the
cost of rebuilding the cont vs the corvair is pretty amazing. i'll obviousl
y
be doing more research on my own to make a decision, but just these few res
ponses
were very helpful. thank you ; Paul
--------
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Time: 09:43:27 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
What Gary said.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing
Gear
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thank you!
dennis
From: Ryan Mueller
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flop
The flop is in the F&G Manual plans, but not in the later full size
plans. It's offset to the left in the original one piece wing plans,
which would make sense since you are stepping up and in from the left
side. With the three piece you either just flop the trailing portion of
the center section, or figure out how you might want to work out an
offset portion to the left. Part of the fun!
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Daniel Engelkenjohn
<mushface1@gmail.com> wrote:
Are there any plans or dimensions for a center section flop available?
Dennis
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| Subject: | Re: Jeff's external aileron cables |
Its all in the 1932 flying and glider manual..
I built my plane from those plans..
Jeff
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Thanks Don..
i started building 22 months ago..
i guess thats kinda quick
jeff
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Okay Gary; lets get the hours flown off.
Cheers,
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 09/15/12 |
Hi everyone
I have been reading with great interest, corvair vs continental. What about
insuring the aircraft with a certified vs auto conversion. Does this affec
t bottom line price.
bruce
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- ---1. 04:26 AM - Re: Update- (Don Emch)
- ---2. 02:39 PM - Jeff's external aileron cables- (nightmare)
- ---3. 02:46 PM - Chick Magnet is Kicking In- (Gary Boothe)
- ---4. 02:52 PM - need help deciding on powerplant- (nightmare)
- ---5. 02:52 PM - need help deciding on powerplant- (nightmare)
- ---6. 03:07 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (Gary Bo
othe)
- ---7. 03:22 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (Ryan Mu
eller)
- ---8. 03:46 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (IT Girl
)
- ---9. 04:06 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (IT Girl
)
- - 10. 04:51 PM - Re: Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (Ken Bic
kers)
- - 11. 06:13 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (Pietn38b@ao
l.com)
- - 12. 06:21 PM - flop- (Daniel Engelkenjohn)
- - 13. 06:47 PM - Re: Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (Jack Ph
illips)
- - 14. 06:55 PM - Re: flop- (Ryan Mueller)
- - 15. 07:06 PM - Re: Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (Ryan Mu
eller)
- - 16. 07:18 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (IT Girl)
- - 17. 09:20 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (nightmare)
- - 18. 09:43 PM - Re: need help deciding on powerplant- (K5YAC)
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Time: 04:26:49 AM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Update
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Jeff,
Very, very nice.- I love the look.- Didn't you start building that thin
g like...
last month!?
And yes... Welcome to the Green and Cream Team!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Time: 02:39:17 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jeff's external aileron cables
From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
Are there any plans/drawings on that external aileron setup? Thanks; Paul
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Time: 02:46:02 PM PST US
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Chick Magnet is Kicking In
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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Time: 02:52:24 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: need help deciding on powerplant
From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
I may be flip flopping. Lately have been leaning heavily towards a Continen
tal.
from a65 to 0200.- I'm trying to keep an open mind and wanted some opinio
ns on
the Corvair.
---What could i expect to spend on the lower horsepower corvair with
no starter,
alternator. Just bare bones, hand propping action. the only splurge would b
e
to put the other cam in it so it turns the "right" way. And i would be doin
g
all the work myself. I'm going to talk to the folks over at flycorvair.com,
but
i also wanted some real Piet builders opinions. Thanks; Paul
--------
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Started 8-3-12
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Time: 02:52:31 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: need help deciding on powerplant
From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
I may be flip flopping. Lately have been leaning heavily towards a Continen
tal.
from a65 to 0200.- I'm trying to keep an open mind and wanted some opinio
ns on
the Corvair.
---What could i expect to spend on the lower horsepower corvair with
no starter,
alternator. Just bare bones, hand propping action. the only splurge would b
e
to put the other cam in it so it turns the "right" way. And i would be doin
g
all the work myself. I'm going to talk to the folks over at flycorvair.com,
but
i also wanted some real Piet builders opinions. Thanks; Paul
--------
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Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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Time: 03:07:58 PM PST US
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: need help deciding on powerplant
Paul,
Just my humble opinion....
Do not sell short the starter/alternator combo, for several reasons:-
1) You're only talking about a few hundred dollars;
2) The corvair is not comfortable to prop (I've done it...compression occur
s
at a lower position);
3) The safety factor is HUGE! William Wynne will tell you the same thing.
As for which way the prop turns...I'm elated that my prop spins the same wa
y
as a Spitfire!!
Stop flip/flopping, sign up for the next Corvair College in Barnwell, SC,
and get on with your project.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nightmare
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 2:52 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: need help deciding on powerplant
--> <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
I may be flip flopping. Lately have been leaning heavily towards a
Continental. from a65 to 0200.- I'm trying to keep an open mind and wante
d
some opinions on the Corvair.
---What could i expect to spend on the lower horsepower corvair with
no
starter, alternator. Just bare bones, hand propping action. the only splurg
e
would be to put the other cam in it so it turns the "right" way. And i woul
d
be doing all the work myself. I'm going to talk to the folks over at
flycorvair.com, but i also wanted some real Piet builders opinions. Thanks;
Paul
--------
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do not archive
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Time: 03:22:00 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: need help deciding on powerplant
From: Ryan Mueller <ryan@rmueller.org>
Well, I started typing, but Gary beat me too it....so I'll just have to
say: I concur.
There's zero point in reversing the rotation. Having hand-propped a Corvair
(not even a fresh engine, it was the Last Original before the rebuild): no
thank you. So much nicer to be able to just climb in and push a button. The
starter is well worth the money. And why bother worrying about having to
charge a battery to power your ignition?
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> Just my humble opinion....
>
> Do not sell short the starter/alternator combo, for several reasons:
>
> 1) You're only talking about a few hundred dollars;
> 2) The corvair is not comfortable to prop (I've done it...compression
> occurs
> at a lower position);
> 3) The safety factor is HUGE! William Wynne will tell you the same thing.
>
> As for which way the prop turns...I'm elated that my prop spins the same
> way
> as a Spitfire!!
>
> Stop flip/flopping, sign up for the next Corvair College in Barnwell, SC,
> and get on with your project.
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nightmare
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 2:52 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: need help deciding on powerplant
>
> --> <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
>
> I may be flip flopping. Lately have been leaning heavily towards a
> Continental. from a65 to 0200.- I'm trying to keep an open mind and wan
ted
> some opinions on the Corvair.
>- - What could i expect to spend on the lower horsepower corvair with
no
> starter, alternator. Just bare bones, hand propping action. the only
> splurge
> would be to put the other cam in it so it turns the "right" way. And i
> would
> be doing all the work myself. I'm going to talk to the folks over at
> flycorvair.com, but i also wanted some real Piet builders opinions.
> Thanks;
> Paul
>
> --------
> Paul Donahue
> Started 8-3-12
> do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383191#383191
>
>
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Time: 03:46:17 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
From: "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com>
Here Here!!
--------
Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Time: 04:06:01 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
From: "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com>
Here is the thing.- Your power plant choice is really your own.- You wi
ll get strong
opinions here from everyone, based on their personal choice.- Bottom line
it is your decision.- Talk with some of the guys about the flight charact
eristics
you need, and the geographic locations where you will do the most flying.
You will come to a decision about what powerplant is right for you, based o
n
your needs and your budget.
For example, if you are leaning toward a certified engine, you are probably
looking
at an immediate outlay of expense in a lump sum, where building a corvair
can be done piecemeal as you can afford it.- An added benefit is that you
built
it, you know how it is put together, and can likely fix it when it needs ma
intenance
(my opinion).
Grace and William at FLycorvair will guide you through the process with the
corvair,
but they will not guide you to any specific powerplant either.-
If you are able, please come to CC24 in Barnwell, SC.- Many people come t
o Corvair
College to help make their decision about power plants.- If you cant make
CC24, we will be hosting a Corvair College in Spring of 2014 in Austin, TX
Good luck.
--------
Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Time: 04:51:55 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
Shelley, I can't make it to Barnwell for the upcoming Corvair College,
but will try my damndest to get to Austin for the one in the spring.
Do you have dates, even tentative ones, yet for the Austin CC?
Thanks, Ken
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 5:05 PM, IT Girl <shlizbth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here is the thing.- Your power plant choice is really your own.- You
will get
strong opinions here from everyone, based on their personal choice.- Bott
om line
it is your decision.- Talk with some of the guys about the flight charact
eristics
you need, and the geographic locations where you will do the most flying.
You will come to a decision about what powerplant is right for you, based
on your needs and your budget.
>
> For example, if you are leaning toward a certified engine, you are probab
ly looking
at an immediate outlay of expense in a lump sum, where building a corvair
can be done piecemeal as you can afford it.- An added benefit is that you
built
it, you know how it is put together, and can likely fix it when it needs
maintenance (my opinion).
>
> Grace and William at FLycorvair will guide you through the process with t
he corvair,
but they will not guide you to any specific powerplant either.
>
> If you are able, please come to CC24 in Barnwell, SC.- Many people come
to Corvair
College to help make their decision about power plants.- If you cant make
CC24, we will be hosting a Corvair College in Spring of 2014 in Austin, TX
> Good luck.
>
> --------
> Shelley Tumino
> IT Girl
> wife of "Axel"
> NX899KP
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383196#383196
>
>
________________________________- Message 11- _________________________
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Time: 06:13:55 PM PST US
From: Pietn38b@aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: need help deciding on powerplant
Paul
I now have three corvair powered aircraft.- The one in my piet is a-
plane-jane Pietenpol conversion.- I have had no trouble with hand proppin
g-
although since I put starters on the other two I have decided to put a star
ter
on
the Piet in the furture.- I also hand propped the DA-2A for the first-
500
hrs also.- Even though I really like the corvairs the little- continent
als
are hard to beat in a Piet, I've flown both.
Jim Ballew.-
In a message dated 9/15/2012 4:52:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,-
pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com writes:
-->- Pietenpol-List message posted by: "nightmare"-
<pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
I may be flip flopping. Lately have- been leaning heavily towards a
Continental. from a65 to 0200.- I'm trying- to keep an open mind and wa
nted some
opinions on the Corvair.
What could i expect to spend on the lower horsepower corvair with no
starter,- alternator. Just bare bones, hand propping action. the only spl
urge
would be- to put the other cam in it so it turns the "right" way. And i w
ould be
doing- all the work myself. I'm going to talk to the folks over at
flycorvair.com,- but i also wanted some real Piet builders opinions. Than
ks;- Paul
--------
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Started 8-3-12
do not- archive
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Time: 06:21:21 PM PST US
From: "Daniel Engelkenjohn" <mushface1@gmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: flop
Are there any plans or dimensions for a center section flop available?
Dennis
________________________________- Message 13- _________________________
___________
Time: 06:47:27 PM PST US
From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
-----Original Message-----
For example, if you are leaning toward a certified engine, you are probably
looking at an immediate outlay of expense in a lump sum, where building a
corvair can be done piecemeal as you can afford it.- An added benefit is
that you built it, you know how it is put together, and can likely fix it
when it needs maintenance (my opinion).
Not necessarily true.- I bought my Continental A65 as a box of parts, for
$1500.- Two years later I bought new Millenium cylinders for it.- A yea
r
later I sent the crankshaft and the crankcase out for overhaul and bought a
new camshaft.- A year later I assembled everything.- Total cost $7,500
for a
zero time vertified aircraft engine - very little more than a full-up
Corvair conversion with the fifth bearing.
As Shelley said, the deciding factor should be the type of flying you expec
t
to do and the terrain you will be flying over.- Will you be flying out of
short strips with tall trees?- If so you may need more power and opt for
a
Corvair, or an O-200 or O-235.
One thing to remember in choosing is how easy it may be to get service if
you have a problem away from home.- Most aircraft repair shops will not
touch an auto engine conversion, so while you might be able to repair a
Corvair or Ford very inexensively, you may not be able to repair it at all
when on a trip.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
________________________________- Message 14- _________________________
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Time: 06:55:07 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flop
From: Ryan Mueller <ryan@rmueller.org>
The flop is in the F&G Manual plans, but not in the later full size plans.
It's offset to the left in the original one piece wing plans, which would
make sense since you are stepping up and in from the left side. With the
three piece you either just flop the trailing portion of the center
section, or figure out how you might want to work out an offset portion to
the left. Part of the fun!
[image: Inline image 1]
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Daniel Engelkenjohn <mushface1@gmail.com>w
rote:
>---Are there any plans or dimensions for a center section flop avail
able?
>
> Dennis
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
________________________________- Message 15- _________________________
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Time: 07:06:02 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
From: Ryan Mueller <ryan@rmueller.org>
Just to play devil's advocate, 8 years ago you majored a 65HP aircraft
engine for $7500 (and odds are that price has not gone down, probably not
stayed the same, maybe increased a bit).....as opposed to the Corvair at
roughly the same price today, delivering 100HP....
But then it is 65HP to 100HP, and aircraft to auto conversion, so kind of
apples and oranges
;-)
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>wrot
e:
> pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> For example, if you are leaning toward a certified engine, you are probab
ly
> looking at an immediate outlay of expense in a lump sum, where building a
> corvair can be done piecemeal as you can afford it.- An added benefit i
s
> that you built it, you know how it is put together, and can likely fix it
> when it needs maintenance (my opinion).
>
> Not necessarily true.- I bought my Continental A65 as a box of parts, f
or
> $1500.- Two years later I bought new Millenium cylinders for it.- A y
ear
> later I sent the crankshaft and the crankcase out for overhaul and bought
a
> new camshaft.- A year later I assembled everything.- Total cost $7,50
0 for
> a
> zero time vertified aircraft engine - very little more than a full-up
> Corvair conversion with the fifth bearing.
>
> As Shelley said, the deciding factor should be the type of flying you
> expect
> to do and the terrain you will be flying over.- Will you be flying out
of
> short strips with tall trees?- If so you may need more power and opt fo
r a
> Corvair, or an O-200 or O-235.
>
> One thing to remember in choosing is how easy it may be to get service if
> you have a problem away from home.- Most aircraft repair shops will not
> touch an auto engine conversion, so while you might be able to repair a
> Corvair or Ford very inexensively, you may not be able to repair it at al
l
> when on a trip.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
>
________________________________- Message 16- _________________________
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Time: 07:18:10 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
From: "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com>
It will be Spring of 2014 Ken.- Kevin is doing really well, but I have mi
litary
obligations this spring that will have me out of the house for a month, and
I
can't leave him to do it all alone. We also want to have a fuselage built t
o
put our engine on for the CC.-
So pencil us in for March of 2014.
bickers.ken(at)gmail.com wrote:
> Shelley, I can't make it to Barnwell for the upcoming Corvair College,
> but will try my damndest to get to Austin for the one in the spring.
> Do you have dates, even tentative ones, yet for the Austin CC?
> Thanks, Ken
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 5:05 PM, IT Girl- wrote:
>
> >-
> >
> >- Here is the thing.- Your power plant choice is really your own.-
You will
get strong opinions here from everyone, based on their personal choice.-
Bottom
line it is your decision.- Talk with some of the guys about the flight ch
aracteristics
you need, and the geographic locations where you will do the most flying.
You will come to a decision about what powerplant is right for you, based
on your needs and your budget.
> >
> >- For example, if you are leaning toward a certified engine, you are p
robably
looking at an immediate outlay of expense in a lump sum, where building a c
orvair
can be done piecemeal as you can afford it.- An added benefit is that you
built it, you know how it is put together, and can likely fix it when it ne
eds
maintenance (my opinion).
> >
> >- Grace and William at FLycorvair will guide you through the process w
ith the
corvair, but they will not guide you to any specific powerplant either.
> >
> >- If you are able, please come to CC24 in Barnwell, SC.- Many people
come to
Corvair College to help make their decision about power plants.- If you c
ant
make CC24, we will be hosting a Corvair College in Spring of 2014 in Austin
, TX
> >- Good luck.
> >
> >- --------
> >- Shelley Tumino
> >- IT Girl
> >- wife of "Axel"
> >- NX899KP
> >
> >- DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >- Read this topic online here:
> >
> >- http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383196#383196
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Time: 09:20:34 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
This is good stuff guys and girl. i just assumed the corvair was just as ea
sy as
the cont s hand propping, but looks like maybe not so. The gradual emptying
of my wallet rather than dumping it all out at once, is something to think
about.
even though i dont know much about either, i have done complete rebuilds of
auto engines in the past, so i think i could handle working on either one.
the
cost of rebuilding the cont vs the corvair is pretty amazing. i'll obviousl
y
be doing more research on my own to make a decision, but just these few res
ponses
were very helpful. thank you ; Paul
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help deciding on powerplant
From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
What Gary said.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing
Gear
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Hey guys... just a note..
http://www.ellisracingproducts.com/
this is the guy that made my radiator.. he's into RC planes too and knows what
a piet is... fast and i think the quality is nice
lightweight
jeff
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