---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/20/12: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:17 AM - Re: NAS3 Assembly Bolts (Michael Perez) 2. 06:23 AM - Douwe Blumberg Please (Michael Perez) 3. 06:24 AM - Re: corvair air cooling shrouds (Rick Schreiber) 4. 06:38 AM - Re: Douwe Blumberg Please (Amsafetyc) 5. 07:26 AM - Re: Douwe Blumberg Please (dgaldrich) 6. 07:38 AM - Re: Re: Douwe Blumberg Please (Amsafetyc) 7. 07:39 AM - Re: NAS3 Assembly Bolts (Matthew) 8. 07:49 AM - Re: NAS3 Assembly Bolts (dgaldrich) 9. 07:50 AM - Re: Re: Douwe Blumberg Please (Gene Rambo) 10. 07:51 AM - Re: Douwe Blumberg Please (dgaldrich) 11. 07:57 AM - Re: NAS3 Assembly Bolts (Michael Perez) 12. 08:14 AM - Re: Re: NAS3 Assembly Bolts (Michael Perez) 13. 08:44 AM - Re: Douwe Blumberg Please (jarheadpilot82) 14. 09:56 AM - Re: Jeff's external aileron cables (womenfly2) 15. 12:12 PM - spam apology (Douwe Blumberg) 16. 02:30 PM - spam apology (Douwe Blumberg) 17. 03:40 PM - Re: NAS3 Assembly Bolts (airlion) 18. 06:11 PM - Re: spam apology (dgaldrich) 19. 09:31 PM - Re: Re: spam apology (Isablcorky@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:35 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NAS3 Assembly Bolts Thanks Oscar. There are tools out there so that you can use a wrench to tig hten screws in place of screw drivers. (ratchet, actually.)- But I agree the use of a hand held screw driver will help prevent over tightening. - A few things I have noticed while doing this carb. overhaul: - The bodies are, in fact held with screws. There is a torque value given for those screws. So, how does one set a torque on a hand held screw driver? - - The float level is supposed to be set to within +/- 1/64".- I would imagi ne that the ever so slight error in leveling the float bowl in any directio n would blow this tight tolerance.- - The manual states to set float level, then safety wire the needle seat. The act of adding the safety wire will now alter the float level...more than 1 /64"? - The carb is simple in design, but there are a lot of small items that need to be attended too: - Type of fuel used and float needle need to be compatable. - Float needle and seat need to be compatable. Number stamped on carb must match type engine being installed on. (A-65 -V- say an O-200) - Numbers on metering jets, nozzles, venturi size,-etc. must also match up with carb. number/engine used. - Various orifice holes need to be checked against drill hole size on chart f or specific carb. number/engine use. - - My carb. is now assembled and ready to be installed on intake. (I need 4 st uds put in first.) - I hope is works! Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:08 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: Douwe Blumberg Please Douwe, I received and email from "you" that seemed quite odd and it had a very strange looking attached link. Did you send it to me? I am guessing not and if not, someone is using your email address. Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:59 AM PST US From: Rick Schreiber Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: corvair air cooling shrouds On 9/19/2012 3:55 PM, C N Campbell wrote: > > > Rick, I just checked my engine. The left shroud goes between the #2 > cylinder and the oil cooler (I also have the 12-plate cooler). You > must have one. The shroud forces the air down through the fins on the > #2 cylinder. A shroud should also be built with the opening at least > as large as the area of the top of the oil cooler to force cooling air > from the top of the engine down through the cooler. Clear as mud? C > > - Chuck, I do understand now. The gap between the rear of the engine and the oil cooler would be too large without the shroud. I also posted the question on the CorvAircraft site had had someone offer a set to me which I will be using. Rick ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Douwe Blumberg Please From: Amsafetyc I received one also I did not open it as it was out of the ordinary and appe ared as his email list was hacked. I suppose we should let Douwe respond to that John Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Michael Perez wrote: > > Douwe, I received and email from "you" that seemed quite odd and it had a v ery strange looking attached link. Did you send it to me? I am guessing not a nd if not, someone is using your email address. > > Michael Perez > Pietenpol HINT Videos > Karetaker Aero > www.karetakeraero.com > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:50 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Douwe Blumberg Please From: "dgaldrich" Douwe's e-mail account has been hacked and spammers are sending crap to his mailing list. Not sure what he can do at this point. Ryan Mueller, computer guru, are you there??? Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383599#383599 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:30 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Douwe Blumberg Please From: Amsafetyc Well that confirms my suspicions I suspect that to put an end to it, we do not open anything from him directly. Hopefully it will die on its own if we don't open it so it doesn't hack our systems and continue. Just an uneducated thought to stop it John Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2012, at 10:26 AM, "dgaldrich" wrote: > > Douwe's e-mail account has been hacked and spammers are sending crap to his mailing list. Not sure what he can do at this point. Ryan Mueller, computer guru, are you there??? > > Dave > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383599#383599 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:18 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NAS3 Assembly Bolts From: Matthew http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000RZ1D86 > > The bodies are, in fact held with screws. There is a torque value given fo r those screws. So, how does one set a torque on a hand held screw driver? > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:54 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: NAS3 Assembly Bolts From: "dgaldrich" Mike A couple of things. 1. Snap-On makes a calibrated torque screwdriver that does things in inch-ounces. Seen pictures but no mechanic I know has one. 2. According to the guru at Oshkosh, the part numbers on the base of the NAS3 carbs are aircraft specific. He says if you take a carb from a Cub A-65 and put it on a TCraft A65, you're in violation of the Type Certificate. We don't care. Chalk one up for "experimental". 3. The castings for all the NAS3 carbs are virtually identical. The displacement of the engine it's used on determines venturi size and jetting so you can put a 1 3/8 inch venturi for a C-85 or Corvair in a carb that came off a C-65 (1 1/4 inch). As long as the jets and throat size match, it'll be ok. 4. I'm pretty sure all O-200's came with the Marvel Dribbler MA3-SPA, certainly all the C-150's did. The almost identical C-85 (ask Douwe) used the Stromberg. One of life's mysteries. Hope this is useful information. It's at least useless trivia. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383603#383603 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:06 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Douwe Blumberg Please From: Gene Rambo All he has to do is change his password and it will stop On Sep 20, 2012, at 10:26 AM, "dgaldrich" wrote: > > Douwe's e-mail account has been hacked and spammers are sending crap to his mailing list. Not sure what he can do at this point. Ryan Mueller, computer guru, are you there??? > > Dave > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383599#383599 > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:29 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Douwe Blumberg Please From: "dgaldrich" John I prefer castration of the guys who did it. A bit medieval but what the heck. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383605#383605 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:57:38 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NAS3 Assembly Bolts Seems there are tools for every situation. Thanks! Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:14:54 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: NAS3 Assembly Bolts Agreed! -I mention all this because a built carb with it's numbers stamped on it may be the correct one to use with an A-65, -75, -80...whatever the case ma y be. The reality of it is that the internals, over the years, may have bee n switched out and no longer match the stamped numbers on the outside. If p eople are having troubles with their engine/carburetor, this may be part of the issue. I was fortunate enough that my carb. body number stampings are correct for the a-65 engine.- Checking all of the internal part numbers and hole size s against that particular carb./engine chart confirmed the assembly is CONF IGURED correctly for said engine. (numbers matching...for us car guys.) Carbs. reconfigured in certain ways need to be identified...like with a 1" painted circle on the body, but again over time, these marks wear off or th e tech. decides not to add them. Just some FYI for those who may not know. Michael Perez =0APietenpol HINT Videos =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com - ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:02 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Douwe Blumberg Please From: "jarheadpilot82" I got on the phone and called Douwe directly, in case the hacking had also affected his computer and did not allow him to access the forum. He is aware of it and is having it dealt with by a technician. Just thought I would go direct, but post it here so as to prevent anyone else from calling unnecessarily, as he is aware of the problem. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383610#383610 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:56:07 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jeff's external aileron cables From: "womenfly2" The aileron cables run on the outside of the upper wing. -------- Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383621#383621 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:12:40 PM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: spam apology Yes, my email was hacked!! I apologize for the emails which were sent over the last couple of days. Douwe ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:30:59 PM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: spam apology Yes, my computer was hacked. sorry for the spam messages everyone's been getting. I was away with my phone off and returned to like thirty messages saying "hey was your computer hacked?" Sorry. Douwe ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:40:44 PM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NAS3 Assembly Bolts I am thinking of safety wiring the mix control on my marvel carb' I never g o =0Aover 5 thousand feet so I don't want to lean it out. What is the best way to =0Asafety it? Cheers, Gardiner=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________________ _________=0AFrom: Oscar Zuniga =0ATo: Pietenpol List =0ASent: Wed, September 19, 2012 10:46:56 PM =0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: NAS3 Assembly Bolts=0A=0A=0AI have only worked on 8-10 Strombergs and maybe looked at that many more while =0Apaying atten tion, but every one of them had safety-wired fillister head screws =0Aholdi ng the two carb halves together.- You're less likely to over-tighten the =0Afasteners and over-compress the gasket with screws as you are with bolts that =0Ayou can put a wrench on, but that's not a big problem if you recog nize that the =0Agasket is doing the important work, not the fasteners.=0A -=0AMichael is an A&P, so he understands the concept.=0A-=0AOscar Zunig ======== =0A ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:11:43 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: spam apology From: "dgaldrich" Douwe No need to apologize. This is one of the hazards of the digital age, sort of like burnt toast. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383670#383670 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:31:36 PM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: spam apology In a message dated 9/20/2012 8:11:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dgaldrich@embarqmail.com writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "dgaldrich" Douwe No need to apologize. This is one of the hazards of the digital age, sort of like burnt toast. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383670#383670 Can't bring it down Daddy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.