Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 10/02/12


Total Messages Posted: 28



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     1. 06:32 AM - Re: round vs. Flat Lacing (woodflier@aol.com)
     2. 06:46 AM - Thanks Kevin! (Douwe Blumberg)
     3. 06:57 AM - what did BHP use to rib stitch?? (Douwe Blumberg)
     4. 08:10 AM - Re: Re: Notes on FBG Post-Accident Repair & Recovery (Dan Yocum)
     5. 09:53 AM - Re: Notes on FBG Post-Accident Repair & Recovery (Jim Boyer)
     6. 10:06 AM - Vert-Offset (TriScout)
     7. 10:08 AM - Re: Notes on FBG Post-Accident Repair & Recovery (Gmail)
     8. 10:46 AM - Observations on Plans-Built Aileron Hinges (kevinpurtee)
     9. 11:00 AM - Quick Update on the Plane & Me & Shelley (kevinpurtee)
    10. 11:46 AM - Re: Quick Update on the Plane & Me & Shelley (TOM STINEMETZE)
    11. 12:36 PM - skid taxi (bender)
    12. 12:43 PM - Big Piet group (1planeguy)
    13. 01:13 PM - Re: Notes on FBG Post-Accident Repair & Recovery (K5YAC)
    14. 01:57 PM - Re: Notes on FBG Post-Accident Repair & Recovery (dgaldrich)
    15. 03:19 PM - Re: Notes on FBG Post-Accident Repair & Recovery (IT Girl)
    16. 03:29 PM - Re: Quick Update on the Plane & Me & Shelley (IT Girl)
    17. 04:02 PM - Re: skid taxi (helspersew@aol.com)
    18. 04:17 PM - Re: skid taxi (bender)
    19. 04:20 PM - Re: Vert-Offset (Ben Charvet)
    20. 04:29 PM - Re: Big Piet group (Frank Metcalfe)
    21. 04:30 PM - Re: skid taxi (gboothe5@comcast.net)
    22. 05:06 PM - EAA Magazine (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    23. 06:08 PM - Re: Re: EAA Calendar photo (dog67@aol.com)
    24. 07:02 PM - Re: Re: Quick Update on the Plane & Me & Shelley (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
    25. 07:13 PM - Re: Re: skid taxi (helspersew@aol.com)
    26. 07:14 PM - Re: Vert-Offset (TriScout)
    27. 08:34 PM - Re: EAA Magazine (aerocarjake)
    28. 09:17 PM - rib lacing cord - round vs flat (Oscar Zuniga)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:32:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: round vs. Flat Lacing
    From: woodflier@aol.com
    Greg, like Kevin, I used the round and didn't find it hard to work with. O n a Piet, I don't think the fact that you can see the stitches after you're finished a bit more with the round makes a difference. When I had to do a field repair to an elevator at Oshkosh this year, I used the flat, and I di d have to make sure it wasn't twisted going over the ribs. On future coveri ngs, I'll probably stay with the round cord. Matt Paxton NX629ML


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    Time: 06:46:00 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Thanks Kevin!
    Thanks Kevin for lots of stuff (sent you an off list email) but thanks most for taking the time to share this info with us all. I don't think one could put a price on this hard-won, real-world knowledge which will help builders stay safe! Good going man. D


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    Time: 06:57:14 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: what did BHP use to rib stitch??
    Well, knowing BHP's propensity for depression era "thrift", here's a few of his rib-stitching possibilities. 1. Used Dental floss, scrounged from the city dump or his dentist buddy (oops, probably hadn't been invented) 2. Threads from an old greasy rag he unraveled. 3. horse hair scrounged from the local plow horse 4. Rib-Stitching cord salvaged from a busted up "crate" which had "come-a-cropper" and been pushed behind a hangar at the field back in 1919. 5. Or, most likely.. Some sort of round thread/cord that he "felt" was touch enough. Absolutely "no archive" Douwe


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    Time: 08:10:31 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Notes on FBG Post-Accident Repair & Recovery
    On 10/01/2012 12:52 PM, K5YAC wrote: > > Thanks for sharing this information Kevin. Those last couple of photos aren't easy to look at, knowing where they came from... but the details offer a bit of confidence. I second the motion. do not archive


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    Time: 09:53:53 AM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Notes on FBG Post-Accident Repair & Recovery
    Hi Kevin, Thanks for the information and photos of FBG's damage. I would say Garys wood struts have definitely proven themselves as up to the task. It is also a good indication of the strength of the Piet design. How is the rebuild coming now? Cheers to you and Shelley. Jim B.


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    Time: 10:06:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Vert-Offset
    From: "TriScout" <apfelcyber@yahoo.com>
    Hi Folks.. I have a question for you Piet guru's... I've been flying my A65 powered GN-1 for over a yr now. I am not 100% comfortable w/having to put a big trim tab on the rudder..even in cruise flight. I even built a rear view mirrow to watch it while trundling along enroute to the local cafe's. That little wood fixed vert-stab can't be all that strong w/lots of rudder in at climb/some at cruise... ..then I recently watched Waldo Pfeiffer and noticed the scene they filmed flying down Main St in Elgin, texas back during filming in '74...noticing the huge offset in the Jenny stab to accomodate the 200hp Hisso's they used in place of the weak ol' 90 horse OX-Fivers..(the scene where Axel is screaming; "Marybeth!"..... "Marybethhh!") 1. How much is the right amount of offset for the A65? 2. Anyone else have this concern? I'm just eyeballing it, figuring any offset is better than none, but don't want too much either. I am starting with just over a half inch (9/16").. I attached a short vid. Somewhere about mid-vid, I shine camera into mirror to watch it, but the video appears to show less rudder than it seems to require in real life. (rudder deflection not as pronounced in real life). Will attempt foto attachment as well... Thx in advance, Larry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SBy6z9W5wE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384480#384480 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/cc_843.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/ee_955.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/bb_531.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dd_190.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/axl_895.jpg


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    Time: 10:08:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Notes on FBG Post-Accident Repair & Recovery
    From: Gmail <gbacon67@gmail.com>
    I agree. Thanks Kevin. It's very generous of you to share this info. Greg Bacon Garratt Callahan gbacon@g-c.com (573)489-4795 On Oct 2, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > Thanks for the information and photos of FBG's damage. I would say Garys w ood struts have definitely proven themselves as up to the task. It is also a good indication of the strength of the Piet design. > > How is the rebuild coming now? > > Cheers to you and Shelley. > > Jim B. > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 10:46:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Observations on Plans-Built Aileron Hinges
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    I used the hardware store strap hinges. Had a guy at work tack the loops closed for me. (My welding was not that subtle at that point.) We used 2" packing tape for gap seals. All of this worked great for over 300 hours and three wing-tip dragging episodes (two right, one left). Despite this abuse, the strap hinges proved very durable. We had the chance to thoroughly inspect the hinges during recovery ops. The aileron on the right side was intact but was stripped from the wing. The aileron on the left side was completely intact and still attached to the wing. The hinges on the right side aileron were still firmly attached. Didn't check the wing side hinges on that side. The hinges on the left side were still firmly attached on both sides. The left wing was thoroughly damaged but the aileron and the hinges were in great shape. I had a brief fantasy about ripping the aileron off with my hands. Fat chance. Very durable. More information to consider. -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384483#384483


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    Time: 11:00:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Quick Update on the Plane & Me & Shelley
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    FBG: The tail woodwork repair is complete. Hinges are re-attached. Need to rebuild the control horns. Metal's coming for that. Wood and metal for the center section are ordered. A very generous individual sent me a complete set of Charlie Rubeck wing ribs. I have all the wing spars and the fuselage longerons in the garage. An EXTRAORDINARILY generous individual sent me the better part of a corvair motor with most of the conversion parts (unbelievable!). WW will use that as a basis for my engine rebuild. We hope to run the engine at Corvair College 24 in SC in November. Me: I'm fine. I limp, cannot run, and fatigue a little quicker than before, but I'm at 90%. Hope to be running by the end of the year. I flew my friend's Wichhawk on Friday with no problems, then spent the next 2 hours working on it, crawling underneath, reaching into the guts, etc. The trim system bowden cable jammed. Hope to fix it this weekend so I can fly it again. Shelley: completely recovered. Doing the band-Mom thing full throttle with her boy and having a ball. Once again, thank you all for your kind thoughts, prayers and support. -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384486#384486


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    Time: 11:46:01 AM PST US
    From: "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
    Subject: Re: Quick Update on the Plane & Me & Shelley
    >>Shelley: completely recovered. Doing the band-Mom thing full throttle with her boy and having a ball.<< Band Mom, huh? I think Hockey Mom or even Momma Bear might be more believable. Stinemetze do not archive


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    Time: 12:36:26 PM PST US
    Subject: skid taxi
    From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
    So.... taxiing with a skid is interesting.. I have individual brakes but i think i need a little more leverage... so longer levers are coming... its not too bad turning..forward stick and a blast of air works pretty well... getting closer http://s1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/jfaithbass/?action=view&current=VID_20121002_141648.mp4 jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384497#384497


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    Time: 12:43:42 PM PST US
    From: 1planeguy <1planeguy@kilocharlie.us>
    Subject: Big Piet group
    Any members of the Big Piet builders group from Georgia on this list? Would like to ask a couple of questions... Jeremy Casey jeremy@kilocharlie.us --


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    Time: 01:13:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Notes on FBG Post-Accident Repair & Recovery
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    yocum137(at)gmail.com wrote: > On 10/01/2012 12:52 PM, K5YAC wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing this information Kevin. Those last couple of photos aren't easy to look at, knowing where they came from... but the details offer a bit of confidence. > > > > > > I second the motion. > > do not archive Is that Dan Yokum? Where have YOU been hiding? -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384505#384505


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    Time: 01:57:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Notes on FBG Post-Accident Repair & Recovery
    From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
    Kevin Thank you for your most excellent post. Your observations and pics came at an opportune moment. I am currently working on the turtle deck and had built mine about to the original FBG height because I like the look of the slightly lower turtle deck. The new one now in the jig will be 9 inches above the longerons at the peak, exactly the same height as the forward arches. My shoulder harness attach points will be about the same distance behind the seats as you used. Again thank you for your willingness to share what must be a rather unpleasant experience. Dave Aldrich Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384511#384511


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    Time: 03:19:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Notes on FBG Post-Accident Repair & Recovery
    From: "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com>
    [quote="gbacon67(at)gmail.com"]I agree. Thanks Kevin. It's very generous of you to share this info. Greg BaconGarratt Callahan gbacon@g-c.com (gbacon@g-c.com) (573)489-4795 On Oct 2, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Jim Boyer wrote: > > Hi Kevin, > Thanks for the information and photos of FBG's damage. I would say Garys wood struts have definitely proven themselves as up to the task. It is also a good indication of the strength of the Piet design. > How is the rebuild coming now? > Cheers to you and Shelley. > Jim B. > > > > > > > > > > > > > [b] I think we will have a complete engine after CC24, all of the tailfeathers are complete (repaired/reused/rebuilt), and a full set of ribs were delivered yesterday. Spars were delivered last week, so we are ready to begin building the wings, after we move some tables from the hangar to the garage. Kevin is in the garage everyday, his rehab plan is working well. -------- Shelley Tumino IT Girl wife of &quot;Axel&quot; NX899KP DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384516#384516


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    Time: 03:29:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Quick Update on the Plane & Me & Shelley
    From: "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com>
    Tom, Aedan is in the high-school marching band, and having a complete blast. I made sure they knew that I am creative and handy. Now they have a new project for me every day. Aedan is the flute player on the 35 yard line in this picture. I couldn't be more proud -------- Shelley Tumino IT Girl wife of &quot;Axel&quot; NX899KP DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384517#384517 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0084_194.jpg


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    Time: 04:02:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: skid taxi
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Hey Jeff, Very cool. Looks great! You want to use the official Piet list Industrial Fish Scale to test the lbs. of thrust? I can shoot it up to you in one day UPS. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> Sent: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 2:36 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: skid taxi > So.... taxiing with a skid is interesting.. I have individual brakes but i think i need a little more leverage... so lo nger levers are coming... its not too bad turning..forward stick and a blast of air works pretty well... getting closer http://s1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/jfaithbass/?action=view&current =VID_20121002_141648.mp4 jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384497#384497


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    Time: 04:17:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: skid taxi
    From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
    that could be fun.... i'm seeing about 1800 rpm at full throttle now feels windy jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384521#384521


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    Time: 04:20:22 PM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Vert-Offset
    I have about 1/2 inch in mine and its not quite enough. Ben Charvet NX866BC (140 hrs) On 10/2/2012 1:06 PM, TriScout wrote: > > Hi Folks.. > > I have a question for you Piet guru's... > > I've been flying my A65 powered GN-1 for over a yr now. I am not 100% comfortable w/having to put a big trim tab on the rudder..even in cruise flight. I even built a rear view mirrow to watch it while trundling along enroute to the local cafe's. That little wood fixed vert-stab can't be all that strong w/lots of rudder in at climb/some at cruise... > > ..then I recently watched Waldo Pfeiffer and noticed the scene they filmed flying down Main St in Elgin, texas back during filming in '74...noticing the huge offset in the Jenny stab to accomodate the 200hp Hisso's they used in place of the weak ol' 90 horse OX-Fivers..(the scene where Axel is screaming; "Marybeth!"..... "Marybethhh!") > > 1. How much is the right amount of offset for the A65? > 2. Anyone else have this concern? > > I'm just eyeballing it, figuring any offset is better than none, but don't want too much either. I am starting with just over a half inch (9/16").. > > I attached a short vid. Somewhere about mid-vid, I shine camera into mirror to watch it, but the video appears to show less rudder than it seems to require in real life. (rudder deflection not as pronounced in real life). Will attempt foto attachment as well... Thx in advance, Larry > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SBy6z9W5wE > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384480#384480 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cc_843.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/ee_955.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/bb_531.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dd_190.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/axl_895.jpg > > -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center


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    Time: 04:29:13 PM PST US
    From: Frank Metcalfe <fmetcalf@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Big Piet group
    Sure we are here--... ask away --- On Tue, 10/2/12, 1planeguy <1planeguy@kilocharlie.us> wrote: From: 1planeguy <1planeguy@kilocharlie.us> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet group Any members of the Big Piet builders group from Georgia on this list? Would like to ask a couple of questions... Jeremy Casey jeremy@kilocharlie.us --


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    Time: 04:30:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: skid taxi
    From: gboothe5@comcast.net
    U2F5LCAiWWVzLCIgSmVmZi4gWW91IGRvIHdhbnQgdG8gYmUgb2ZmaWNpYWwuLi5kb24ndCB5b3U/ DQpTZW50IG9uIHRoZSBTcHJpbnSuIE5vdyBOZXR3b3JrIGZyb20gbXkgQmxhY2tCZXJyea4NCg0K LS0tLS1PcmlnaW5hbCBNZXNzYWdlLS0tLS0NCkZyb206IGhlbHNwZXJzZXdAYW9sLmNvbQ0KU2Vu ZGVyOiBvd25lci1waWV0ZW5wb2wtbGlzdC1zZXJ2ZXJAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbQ0KRGF0ZTogVHVl LCAyIE9jdCAyMDEyIDE5OjAxOjQ3IA0KVG86IDxwaWV0ZW5wb2wtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29t Pg0KUmVwbHktVG86IHBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb21TdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogUGll dGVucG9sLUxpc3Q6IHNraWQgdGF4aQ0KDQoNCkhleSBKZWZmLA0KDQpWZXJ5IGNvb2wuIExvb2tz IGdyZWF0ISAgWW91IHdhbnQgdG8gdXNlIHRoZSBvZmZpY2lhbCBQaWV0IGxpc3QgSW5kdXN0cmlh bCBGaXNoIFNjYWxlIHRvIHRlc3QgdGhlIGxicy4gb2YgdGhydXN0PyBJIGNhbiBzaG9vdCBpdCB1 cCB0byB5b3UgaW4gb25lIGRheSBVUFMuDQoNCkRhbiBIZWxzcGVyDQpQdXJ5ZWFyLCBUTiANCg0K DQotLS0tLU9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UtLS0tLQ0KRnJvbTogYmVuZGVyIDxqZmFpdGhAc29sYWly dXNhdmlhdGlvbi5jb20+DQpUbzogcGlldGVucG9sLWxpc3QgPHBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJv bmljcy5jb20+DQpTZW50OiBUdWUsIE9jdCAyLCAyMDEyIDI6MzYgcG0NClN1YmplY3Q6IFBpZXRl bnBvbC1MaXN0OiBza2lkIHRheGkNCg0KDQotLT4gUGlldGVucG9sLUxpc3QgbWVzc2FnZSBwb3N0 ZWQgYnk6ICJiZW5kZXIiIDxqZmFpdGhAc29sYWlydXNhdmlhdGlvbi5jb20+DQoNClNvLi4uLiB0 YXhpaW5nIHdpdGggYSBza2lkIGlzIGludGVyZXN0aW5nLi4NCg0KSSBoYXZlIGluZGl2aWR1YWwg YnJha2VzIGJ1dCBpIHRoaW5rIGkgbmVlZCBhIGxpdHRsZSBtb3JlIGxldmVyYWdlLi4uIHNvIGxv bmdlciANCmxldmVycyBhcmUgY29taW5nLi4uIGl0cyBub3QgdG9vIGJhZCB0dXJuaW5nLi5mb3J3 YXJkIHN0aWNrIGFuZCBhIGJsYXN0IG9mIGFpciANCndvcmtzIHByZXR0eSB3ZWxsLi4uDQoNCmdl dHRpbmcgY2xvc2VyDQoNCmh0dHA6Ly9zMTEyNS5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb20vYWxidW1zL2w1OTMv amZhaXRoYmFzcy8/YWN0aW9uPXZpZXcmY3VycmVudD1WSURfMjAxMjEwMDJfMTQxNjQ4Lm1wNA0K DQpqZWZmDQoNCg0KDQoNClJlYWQgdGhpcyB0b3BpYyBvbmxpbmUgaGVyZToNCg0KaHR0cDovL2Zv cnVtcy5tYXRyb25pY3MuY29tL3ZpZXd0b3BpYy5waHA/cD0zODQ0OTcjMzg0NDk3DQoNCg0KDQoN Cg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KIA0KDQo


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    Time: 05:06:26 PM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: EAA Magazine
    Mark, Nice job on the landing gear and vise setup article. Thanks John


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    Time: 06:08:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: EAA Calendar photo
    From: dog67@aol.com
    De Nada, Oscar. I'll pass on the Growler commentary. She was pretty happy when her squadro n went over from the Prowlers - systems are a lot easier to work on. Not h er call as to the aircraft - c'est la vie. Beware re-using fiber insert lock nuts. Cheers jon -----Original Message----- From: taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> Sent: Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:32 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: EAA Calendar photo Jon: thanks for your contributions to aviation and medicine, and thank your wife for her service as well. And I just got this month's Sport Aviation in tod ay's mail and I see that the NTSB is also blaming re-used fiber insert locknuts for the failure of the trim tab fasteners on Galloping Ghost. I re-use fiber a nd nylon insert locknuts a couple of times, but if I can turn them with my fin gers- no. Apparently the flutter and/or earlier flights were enough to loosen th e nuts and contribute to the failure. Side note: the Growler people are not universally liked. My Prowler buds a re not happy that illegitimates ("Navy") displaced their role and led to the d emise of the Prowler as the spectrum dominators. I am one of those who believes that the Prowler personifies EW and that the Growler is nothing but a glorified Hornet with a couple of iPads in it. do not archive -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384442#384442


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    Time: 07:02:58 PM PST US
    From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
    Subject: Re: Quick Update on the Plane & Me & Shelley
    Shelly, My mother was proud of me in the marching band. She pointed out to everyone that I was the only kid in step. Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: IT Girl <shlizbth@gmail.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Quick Update on the Plane & Me & Shelley > > Tom, > Aedan is in the high-school marching band, and having a complete blast. I made sure they knew that I am creative and handy. Now they > have a new project for me every day. > > Aedan is the flute player on the 35 yard line in this picture. I > couldn't be more proud > > -------- > Shelley Tumino > IT Girl > wife of &quot;Axel&quot; > NX899KP > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384517#384517 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0084_194.jpg > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:13:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: skid taxi
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Jeff, Send me you address off-list. (Hangar?) Dan -----Original Message----- From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> Sent: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 6:17 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: skid taxi > that could be fun.... i'm seeing about 1800 rpm at full throttle now feels windy jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384521#384521


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    Time: 07:14:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Vert-Offset
    From: "TriScout" <apfelcyber@yahoo.com>
    I'm not really looking to get rid of the trim tab completely. Just hoping to tone it down to a small trim tab without such a big bend in it. I think that half inch should about do the trick. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384533#384533


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    Time: 08:34:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: EAA Magazine
    From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>
    I agree... Has not thought to tie into the removable vice grips - nice....!! -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384537#384537


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    Time: 09:17:46 PM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: rib lacing cord - round vs flat
    I'll weigh in on the lacing cord issue. My opinion is to go with the round =2C but my reason for saying that is purely emotional and aesthetic. I lov e fabric airplanes=2C and part of the reason why I love them has to do with the geometry and visual appeal of the lacing=2C the pinked edges=2C the fi nishing tapes=2C the whole system of covering an airframe with fabric and t he way it looks. I just find it to be beautiful. On our airplanes=2C it's not about streamlining=2C aerodynamic efficiency =2C or anything like that... it's about appearance. I don't think an Air C amper goes fast enough to benefit from having glassy-smooth surfaces but if you want your airplane to look smooth and sleek=2C use smooth and sleek th ings and finishes on it. I like for a fabric airplane to look like a fabri c airplane=2C and seeing the lacing under the fabric is part of the visual appeal to me. do not archive Oscar Zuniga Medford=2C Oregon Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power




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