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1. 03:59 AM - Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! (Jack Phillips)
2. 04:09 AM - Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! (Gene Rambo)
3. 04:55 AM - Re: Re: Wood Finish (Michael Perez)
4. 04:57 AM - Re: Vert-Offset (Michael Perez)
5. 05:02 AM - Tony B. and Rudder Trim Tabs (Michael Perez)
6. 05:05 AM - Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! (John Francis)
7. 05:13 AM - Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! (Jim Markle)
8. 05:26 AM - Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! (John Hofmann)
9. 05:36 AM - pilot in command, Gary Boothe (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
10. 05:41 AM - Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe (helspersew@aol.com)
11. 05:46 AM - Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! (Gary Boothe)
12. 05:50 AM - Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe (Greg Bacon)
13. 06:10 AM - Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe (Gary Boothe)
14. 06:21 AM - Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe (AircamperN11MS)
15. 06:34 AM - Re: Rib milestone (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
16. 06:59 AM - Congrats Gary! (Douwe Blumberg)
17. 07:13 AM - Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! (Robert Bush)
18. 07:26 AM - Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! (Michael Perez)
19. 07:29 AM - Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! (Jim Boyer)
20. 07:43 AM - Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe (Jim Boyer)
21. 07:44 AM - Re: Re: Rib milestone (Jim Boyer)
22. 07:51 AM - Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! (Ray Krause)
23. 08:00 AM - Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! (K5YAC)
24. 08:06 AM - Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe (Gary Boothe)
25. 08:17 AM - Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! (caldwrl)
26. 08:35 AM - Ray Krause (Gary Boothe)
27. 08:37 AM - Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe (Gary Boothe)
28. 08:49 AM - Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe (Dan Yocum)
29. 09:19 AM - Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe (Don Emch)
30. 11:14 AM - From my CFI (Gary Boothe)
31. 11:39 AM - Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe (aerocarjake)
32. 11:59 AM - Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe (aerocarjake)
33. 01:32 PM - Re: From my CFI (echobravo4)
34. 06:37 PM - Garys PIC (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
35. 09:49 PM - Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! (Mark Roberts)
36. 09:53 PM - Re: From my CFI (Mark Roberts)
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! |
Fantastic, Gary! Welcome to a small but growing club. It's truly the best
feeling in the world.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:53 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one!
Following are some musings about the Phase 1 flight testing for NX308MB.
Having not logged any time since 1984, I made the decision to turn over
Phase 1 testing to CFI/Test Pilot, Roy Richardson. I found that, when the
time came, that brash confidence which dominated my flying in my youth had
been replaced with a calmer patience. It had never been my intent to let
someone else have the pleasure of the first flight, but I couldn't ignore
the good fortune of finding the right person at the right time. Certainly it
would have been far less expensive to merely get current, then do my own
test flights, and having over 200 hrs of tail wheel time I wasn't concerned
about take offs and landings, but, for once in my life, I couldn't quiet
that little voice, and Safety took the lead.
Previously, I have explained my feelings of relief during the first few
flights, watching from a distance. Eventually, I became accustomed to my
role as 'Crew Chief', tweaking, adjusting and repairing every big and little
complaint that the pilot reported. As all of you who have built your own
planes can testify, there is no trepidation about making repairs; and, if
you have also built your own engines, you have confidence there, too. To me,
this became the final chapter of the building process.without any of the
stress of those early flights.
Roy addressed Phase 1 professionally, and quickly; flying the required 40
hours in less than a month. He carried with him the 'Owner's Manual' that I
had copied from someone else, making notations and changes where needed. We
had long conversations about his discoveries (this was the first Pietenpol
he had seen!), and how much he enjoyed how it flies. Eager to get the
opportunity to fly myself, I was glad that he devoted so much time to it,
and found the extra waiting time to be helpful in understanding what to
expect.
Flying with a CFI has never been relaxing or fun, but that flight, tonight,
for me was still exciting and rewarding. The evening started with me
stopping by the hangar to complete some maintenance, when Roy showed up. We
started talking, and, well.you know.one thing led to another and pretty soon
we up in the air, with me in the rear cockpit!! The BFR checkride went
without issue and, before long, I was up by myself! I doubt if I am capable
of describing those feelings, or at least doing justice to the whole event
(those who have been there will understand), but I can say that I think it
was especially sweet knowing that I did not need to be concerned about the
mechanics or design of my plane, and needed only to concentrate on my
flying.
Definetly, I am not saying that I recommend this process to anyone, only
that it worked for me. It's quite possible that I could have done my own
first flight and subsequent Phase 1 flying, and had no lasting bad
experiences; but I do know that there were a number of minor issues that
were immediately apparent upon that first lift off, and a rusty old pilot
would have been busy.
I wish all of you Pietenpol builders the pleasure I have experienced in the
building process, and the pleasure of your eventual first flight!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! |
Congratulations Gary!! Next year is really going to be something!! ( you A
RE bringing it, aren't you?)
On Oct 4, 2012, at 11:52 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Following are some musings about the Phase 1 flight testing for NX308MB
>
> Having not logged any time since 1984, I made the decision to turn over Ph
ase 1 testing to CFI/Test Pilot, Roy Richardson. I found that, when the time
came, that brash confidence which dominated my flying in my youth had been r
eplaced with a calmer patience. It had never been my intent to let someone e
lse have the pleasure of the first flight, but I couldn=99t ignore the
good fortune of finding the right person at the right time. Certainly it wo
uld have been far less expensive to merely get current, then do my own test f
lights, and having over 200 hrs of tail wheel time I wasn=99t concerne
d about take offs and landings, but, for once in my life, I couldn=99t
quiet that little voice, and Safety took the lead.
>
> Previously, I have explained my feelings of relief during the first few fl
ights, watching from a distance. Eventually, I became accustomed to my role a
s =98Crew Chief=99, tweaking, adjusting and repairing every big a
nd little complaint that the pilot reported. As all of you who have built yo
ur own planes can testify, there is no trepidation about making repairs; and
, if you have also built your own engines, you have confidence there, too. T
o me, this became the final chapter of the building processwithout a
ny of the stress of those early flights.
>
> Roy addressed Phase 1 professionally, and quickly; flying the required 40 h
ours in less than a month. He carried with him the =98Owner=99s M
anual=99 that I had copied from someone else, making notations and cha
nges where needed. We had long conversations about his discoveries (this was
the first Pietenpol he had seen!), and how much he enjoyed how it flies. Ea
ger to get the opportunity to fly myself, I was glad that he devoted so much
time to it, and found the extra waiting time to be helpful in understanding
what to expect.
>
> Flying with a CFI has never been relaxing or fun, but that flight, tonight
, for me was still exciting and rewarding. The evening started with me stopp
ing by the hangar to complete some maintenance, when Roy showed up. We start
ed talking, and, wellyou knowone thing led to another and p
retty soon we up in the air, with me in the rear cockpit!! The BFR checkride
went without issue and, before long, I was up by myself! I doubt if I am ca
pable of describing those feelings, or at least doing justice to the whole e
vent (those who have been there will understand), but I can say that I think
it was especially sweet knowing that I did not need to be concerned about t
he mechanics or design of my plane, and needed only to concentrate on my fly
ing.
>
> Definetly, I am not saying that I recommend this process to anyone, only t
hat it worked for me. It=99s quite possible that I could have done my o
wn first flight and subsequent Phase 1 flying, and had no lasting bad experi
ences; but I do know that there were a number of minor issues that were imme
diately apparent upon that first lift off, and a rusty old pilot would have b
een busy.
>
> I wish all of you Pietenpol builders the pleasure I have experienced in th
e building process, and the pleasure of your eventual first flight!
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
>
>
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As with a lot of aspects with building your own plane, the finish is based
on personal taste.- I chose NOT to sand the wood while doing the varnish.
I used a wet rag to wipe down the wood prior to the varnish, which actuall
y raises the grain some. After that, I just applied multiple coats and left
it alone. I personally like the look of the not-so-perfect, mildly rough,
non-glossy finish. Kinda along the lines of what Oscar had mentioned in ano
ther thread.
Michael Perez
=0APietenpol HINT Videos
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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Thanks.- I added extra engine offset when building the mount, but I guess
I won't know if it is enough until I get the plane in the air.
Michael Perez
=0APietenpol HINT Videos
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Tony B. and Rudder Trim Tabs |
FYI, for those using or going to use a trim tab on the rudder; in the blue
TB book, I believe it is page 140, Tony describes on what SIDE of the rudde
r to place the tab depending on needing right or left trim. Basically, the
tab itself is mounted on the side of the rudder that the nose needs to be p
ointed towards.- (the book has a sketch)
I don't know how much of a difference mounting the tab this way has, but it
was enough for Tony to mention it and draw it out.
This may be another way to get the most performance out of the trim tab and
keep it small and/or deflected very little.
Michael Perez
=0APietenpol HINT Videos
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! |
Way to go Gary! I might consider the same path when my turn comes.
John
--------
John Francis
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384684#384684
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! |
Awesome Gary! Congrats!
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe
Sent: Oct 4, 2012 11:52 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one!
Following are some musings about the Phase 1 flight testing for NX308MB Having
not logged any time since 1984, I made the decision to turn over Phase 1 testing
to CFI/Test Pilot, Roy Richardson. I found that, when the time came, that
brash confidence which dominated my flying in my youth had been replaced with
a calmer patience. It had never been my intent to let someone else have the pleasure
of the first flight, but I couldnt ignore the good fortune of finding the
right person at the right time. Certainly it would have been far less expensive
to merely get current, then do my own test flights, and having over 200 hrs
of tail wheel time I wasnt concerned about take offs and landings, but, for
once in my life, I couldnt quiet that little voice, and Safety took the lead.
Previously, I have explained my feelings of relief during the first few flights,
watching from a distance. Eventually, I became accustomed to my role as Crew
Chief, tweaking, adjusting and repairing every big and little complaint that
the pilot reported. As all of you who have built your own planes can testify,
there is no trepidation about making repairs; and, if you have also built your
own engines, you have confidence there, too. To me, this became the final
chapter of the building processwithout any of the stress of those early flights.
Roy addressed Phase 1 professionally, and quickly; flying the required 40
hours in less than a month. He carried with him the Owners Manual that I had copied
from someone else, making notations and changes where needed. We had long
conversations about his discoveries (this was the first Pietenpol he had seen!),
and how much he enjoyed how it flies. Eager to get the opportunity to fly
myself, I was glad that he devoted so much time to it, and found the extra waiting
time to be helpful in understanding what to expect. Flying with a CFI has
never been relaxing or fun, but that flight, tonight, for me was still exciting
and rewarding. The evening started with me stopping by!
the han
gar to complete some maintenance, when Roy showed up. We started talking, and,
wellyou knowone thing led to another and pretty soon we up in the air, with me
in the rear cockpit!! The BFR checkride went without issue and, before long,
I was up by myself! I doubt if I am capable of describing those feelings, or at
least doing justice to the whole event (those who have been there will understand),
but I can say that I think it was especially sweet knowing that I did
not need to be concerned about the mechanics or design of my plane, and needed
only to concentrate on my flying. Definetly, I am not saying that I recommend
this process to anyone, only that it worked for me. Its quite possible that I
could have done my own first flight and subsequent Phase 1 flying, and had no
lasting bad experiences; but I do know that there were a number of minor issues
that were immediately apparent upon that first lift off, and a rusty old pilot
would have been busy. I wish all of you Pietenpol builders the pleasure I
have experienced in the building process, and the pleasure of your eventual first
flight! Gary BootheNX308MB
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! |
Gary,
This is great news! You are a steely-eyed missile man now!
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Oct 5, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Gene Rambo wrote:
> Congratulations Gary!! Next year is really going to be something!!
( you ARE bringing it, aren't you?)
>
> On Oct 4, 2012, at 11:52 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
>>
>> Following are some musings about the Phase 1 flight testing for
NX308MB=85
>>
>> Having not logged any time since 1984, I made the decision to turn
over Phase 1 testing to CFI/Test Pilot, Roy Richardson. I found that,
when the time came, that brash confidence which dominated my flying in
my youth had been replaced with a calmer patience. It had never been my
intent to let someone else have the pleasure of the first flight, but I
couldn=92t ignore the good fortune of finding the right person at the
right time. Certainly it would have been far less expensive to merely
get current, then do my own test flights, and having over 200 hrs of
tail wheel time I wasn=92t concerned about take offs and landings, but,
for once in my life, I couldn=92t quiet that little voice, and Safety
took the lead.
>>
>> Previously, I have explained my feelings of relief during the first
few flights, watching from a distance. Eventually, I became accustomed
to my role as =91Crew Chief=92, tweaking, adjusting and repairing every
big and little complaint that the pilot reported. As all of you who have
built your own planes can testify, there is no trepidation about making
repairs; and, if you have also built your own engines, you have
confidence there, too. To me, this became the final chapter of the
building process=85without any of the stress of those early flights.
>>
>> Roy addressed Phase 1 professionally, and quickly; flying the
required 40 hours in less than a month. He carried with him the =91Owner=92
s Manual=92 that I had copied from someone else, making notations and
changes where needed. We had long conversations about his discoveries
(this was the first Pietenpol he had seen!), and how much he enjoyed how
it flies. Eager to get the opportunity to fly myself, I was glad that he
devoted so much time to it, and found the extra waiting time to be
helpful in understanding what to expect.
>>
>> Flying with a CFI has never been relaxing or fun, but that flight,
tonight, for me was still exciting and rewarding. The evening started
with me stopping by the hangar to complete some maintenance, when Roy
showed up. We started talking, and, well=85you know=85one thing led to
another and pretty soon we up in the air, with me in the rear cockpit!!
The BFR checkride went without issue and, before long, I was up by
myself! I doubt if I am capable of describing those feelings, or at
least doing justice to the whole event (those who have been there will
understand), but I can say that I think it was especially sweet knowing
that I did not need to be concerned about the mechanics or design of my
plane, and needed only to concentrate on my flying.
>>
>> Definetly, I am not saying that I recommend this process to anyone,
only that it worked for me. It=92s quite possible that I could have done
my own first flight and subsequent Phase 1 flying, and had no lasting
bad experiences; but I do know that there were a number of minor issues
that were immediately apparent upon that first lift off, and a rusty old
pilot would have been busy.
>>
>> I wish all of you Pietenpol builders the pleasure I have experienced
in the building process, and the pleasure of your eventual first flight!
>>
>> Gary Boothe
>> NX308MB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ========================
>> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>> ========================
>> cs.com
>> ========================
>> matronics.com/contribution
>> ========================
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | pilot in command, Gary Boothe |
Would the owner/operator of NX308MB please step forward to accept this awar
d......
Here's a huge round of applause for achieving the ultimate dream of every h
omebuilder
Gary: flying your hand-built creation for the very first time. Way to go
bro.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe |
Gary,
Supreme congratulations!! You da Man! Please say how the prop re-pitch wor
ked out.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove IL (till Sunday)
-----Original Message-----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC] (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Sent: Fri, Oct 5, 2012 7:36 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: pilot in command, Gary Boothe
Would the owner/operator of NX308MB please step forward to accept this awar
d
Here=99s a huge round of applause for achieving the ultimate dream of
every homebuilder
Gary: flying your hand-built creation for the very first time. Way to go
bro.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! |
Gene =93 I wish the answer was, =9CYes!=9D Next year
my wife=99s side of the family has a family reunion planned that
weekend and I=99m quite sure I would lose a prodigious number of
Pietenpol Points if I went flying instead.I=99m not happy
about that. Whether I flew my Piet or went commercial, I=99ll be
missing your debut and the Black & Yellow squadron fly-over.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene
Rambo
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one!
Congratulations Gary!! Next year is really going to be something!! (
you ARE bringing it, aren't you?)
On Oct 4, 2012, at 11:52 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
Following are some musings about the Phase 1 flight testing for
NX308MB
Having not logged any time since 1984, I made the decision to turn over
Phase 1 testing to CFI/Test Pilot, Roy Richardson. I found that, when
the time came, that brash confidence which dominated my flying in my
youth had been replaced with a calmer patience. It had never been my
intent to let someone else have the pleasure of the first flight, but I
couldn=99t ignore the good fortune of finding the right person at
the right time. Certainly it would have been far less expensive to
merely get current, then do my own test flights, and having over 200 hrs
of tail wheel time I wasn=99t concerned about take offs and
landings, but, for once in my life, I couldn=99t quiet that little
voice, and Safety took the lead.
Previously, I have explained my feelings of relief during the first few
flights, watching from a distance. Eventually, I became accustomed to my
role as =98Crew Chief=99, tweaking, adjusting and repairing
every big and little complaint that the pilot reported. As all of you
who have built your own planes can testify, there is no trepidation
about making repairs; and, if you have also built your own engines, you
have confidence there, too. To me, this became the final chapter of the
building processwithout any of the stress of those early
flights.
Roy addressed Phase 1 professionally, and quickly; flying the required
40 hours in less than a month. He carried with him the
=98Owner=99s Manual=99 that I had copied from someone
else, making notations and changes where needed. We had long
conversations about his discoveries (this was the first Pietenpol he had
seen!), and how much he enjoyed how it flies. Eager to get the
opportunity to fly myself, I was glad that he devoted so much time to
it, and found the extra waiting time to be helpful in understanding what
to expect.
Flying with a CFI has never been relaxing or fun, but that flight,
tonight, for me was still exciting and rewarding. The evening started
with me stopping by the hangar to complete some maintenance, when Roy
showed up. We started talking, and, wellyou knowone
thing led to another and pretty soon we up in the air, with me in the
rear cockpit!! The BFR checkride went without issue and, before long, I
was up by myself! I doubt if I am capable of describing those feelings,
or at least doing justice to the whole event (those who have been there
will understand), but I can say that I think it was especially sweet
knowing that I did not need to be concerned about the mechanics or
design of my plane, and needed only to concentrate on my flying.
Definetly, I am not saying that I recommend this process to anyone, only
that it worked for me. It=99s quite possible that I could have
done my own first flight and subsequent Phase 1 flying, and had no
lasting bad experiences; but I do know that there were a number of minor
issues that were immediately apparent upon that first lift off, and a
rusty old pilot would have been busy.
I wish all of you Pietenpol builders the pleasure I have experienced in
the building process, and the pleasure of your eventual first flight!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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| Subject: | Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe |
Congrats Gary! You did it the right way.
Greg Bacon
Prairie Home, MO
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:41 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> Gary,
>
> Supreme congratulations!! You da Man! Please say how the prop re-pitch
> worked out.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove IL (till Sunday)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC] (GRC-RXD0)[Vantag
e
> Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Fri, Oct 5, 2012 7:36 am
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: pilot in command, Gary Boothe
>
> Would the owner/operator of NX308MB please step forward to accept this
> award=85=85
> Here=92s a huge round of applause for achieving the ultimate dream of eve
ry
> homebuilder
> Gary: flying your hand-built creation for the very first time. Way to
> go bro.
>
> Mike C.
>
>
> *
>
> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | pilot in command, Gary Boothe |
Dan =93 I never did =9Cre-pitch.=9D I only removed
extra meat, and made sure I accurately maintained the pitch I had
planned. The results were dramatic! Since I wasn=99t flying at the
time, I can only report what the pilot reported, which was an increase
of 10-15 mph, and a dramatic cooling effect!
With full power (over 3,000rpm), I can easily increase speed to 85, but
at a comfortable 2700rpm I appear to be cruising at about 72.
Yesterday, at about 80 F, with two people and 16 gallons of fuel, we
were climbing at about 400 fpm.
By myself, (just one take off) climb was at about 700 fpm. I was a
little distracted, though, as my borrowed head set started to blow off;
so, while removing it, it also snagged my bi-focaled safety glasses, so
there I was with no hearing protection, no eye protection, and no
corrective lenses!
Being a =9Csteely-eyed missile man=9D though, as John
Hoffman put it, the absence of these creature comforts did little to
affect the outcome [yawn].
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: pilot in command, Gary Boothe
Gary,
Supreme congratulations!! You da Man! Please say how the prop re-pitch
worked out.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove IL (till Sunday)
-----Original Message-----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
(GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Sent: Fri, Oct 5, 2012 7:36 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: pilot in command, Gary Boothe
Would the owner/operator of NX308MB please step forward to accept this
award
Here=99s a huge round of applause for achieving the ultimate dream
of every homebuilder
Gary: flying your hand-built creation for the very first time. Way to
go bro.
Mike C.
" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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Congratulations Gary,
I finally got logged in again. It is great to hear about your great successes.
Keep it up buddy.
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Absolutely 2732, I engraved a part number on each and every one.. :D
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Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
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Way to go Gary!!
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Way to go Gary, happy for you!
Randy Bush
NX294RB
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:52 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Following are some musings about the Phase 1 flight testing for NX308MB
>
> Having not logged any time since 1984, I made the decision to turn over Ph
ase 1 testing to CFI/Test Pilot, Roy Richardson. I found that, when the time
came, that brash confidence which dominated my flying in my youth had been r
eplaced with a calmer patience. It had never been my intent to let someone e
lse have the pleasure of the first flight, but I couldn=99t ignore the
good fortune of finding the right person at the right time. Certainly it wo
uld have been far less expensive to merely get current, then do my own test f
lights, and having over 200 hrs of tail wheel time I wasn=99t concerne
d about take offs and landings, but, for once in my life, I couldn=99t
quiet that little voice, and Safety took the lead.
>
> Previously, I have explained my feelings of relief during the first few fl
ights, watching from a distance. Eventually, I became accustomed to my role a
s =98Crew Chief=99, tweaking, adjusting and repairing every big a
nd little complaint that the pilot reported. As all of you who have built yo
ur own planes can testify, there is no trepidation about making repairs; and
, if you have also built your own engines, you have confidence there, too. T
o me, this became the final chapter of the building processwithout a
ny of the stress of those early flights.
>
> Roy addressed Phase 1 professionally, and quickly; flying the required 40 h
ours in less than a month. He carried with him the =98Owner=99s M
anual=99 that I had copied from someone else, making notations and cha
nges where needed. We had long conversations about his discoveries (this was
the first Pietenpol he had seen!), and how much he enjoyed how it flies. Ea
ger to get the opportunity to fly myself, I was glad that he devoted so much
time to it, and found the extra waiting time to be helpful in understanding
what to expect.
>
> Flying with a CFI has never been relaxing or fun, but that flight, tonight
, for me was still exciting and rewarding. The evening started with me stopp
ing by the hangar to complete some maintenance, when Roy showed up. We start
ed talking, and, wellyou knowone thing led to another and p
retty soon we up in the air, with me in the rear cockpit!! The BFR checkride
went without issue and, before long, I was up by myself! I doubt if I am ca
pable of describing those feelings, or at least doing justice to the whole e
vent (those who have been there will understand), but I can say that I think
it was especially sweet knowing that I did not need to be concerned about t
he mechanics or design of my plane, and needed only to concentrate on my fly
ing.
>
> Definetly, I am not saying that I recommend this process to anyone, only t
hat it worked for me. It=99s quite possible that I could have done my o
wn first flight and subsequent Phase 1 flying, and had no lasting bad experi
ences; but I do know that there were a number of minor issues that were imme
diately apparent upon that first lift off, and a rusty old pilot would have b
een busy.
>
> I wish all of you Pietenpol builders the pleasure I have experienced in th
e building process, and the pleasure of your eventual first flight!
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! |
Nice to hear Gary! Sounds like the plane is dialed in and ready for you to be pilot
in command.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! |
Wow! Congratulations Gary!!!
I think you took the phase 1 40 hours exactly like my former employer; Boeing Airplane
Co., would have a new model aircraft.
I can still remember my first solo flight vividly and that was 59 years ago.
Again congratulations and can't wait to see that beautiful Piet in person.
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe |
Hi Again Gary,
Sounds like your Piet performs very well with your prop. Your climb solo and with
two is good. I don't remember my dad's old Aeronca Champ doing that well.
About the Corvair numbers; you are climbing out at 3000 rpm? Cruising at 2700 rpm
at ~72mph. What static rpm are you getting now that you refined your prop?
Cheers,
Jim B.
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Curt I wish my eyes were that good!
Cheers,
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! |
Great job, Gary!
I will stop in the first weekend that is available. I am anxious to see you
r beautiful plane!
Congratulations.
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 4, 2012, at 8:52 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Following are some musings about the Phase 1 flight testing for NX308MB
>
> Having not logged any time since 1984, I made the decision to turn over Ph
ase 1 testing to CFI/Test Pilot, Roy Richardson. I found that, when the time
came, that brash confidence which dominated my flying in my youth had been r
eplaced with a calmer patience. It had never been my intent to let someone e
lse have the pleasure of the first flight, but I couldn=99t ignore the
good fortune of finding the right person at the right time. Certainly it wo
uld have been far less expensive to merely get current, then do my own test f
lights, and having over 200 hrs of tail wheel time I wasn=99t concerne
d about take offs and landings, but, for once in my life, I couldn=99t
quiet that little voice, and Safety took the lead.
>
> Previously, I have explained my feelings of relief during the first few fl
ights, watching from a distance. Eventually, I became accustomed to my role a
s =98Crew Chief=99, tweaking, adjusting and repairing every big a
nd little complaint that the pilot reported. As all of you who have built yo
ur own planes can testify, there is no trepidation about making repairs; and
, if you have also built your own engines, you have confidence there, too. T
o me, this became the final chapter of the building processwithout a
ny of the stress of those early flights.
>
> Roy addressed Phase 1 professionally, and quickly; flying the required 40 h
ours in less than a month. He carried with him the =98Owner=99s M
anual=99 that I had copied from someone else, making notations and cha
nges where needed. We had long conversations about his discoveries (this was
the first Pietenpol he had seen!), and how much he enjoyed how it flies. Ea
ger to get the opportunity to fly myself, I was glad that he devoted so much
time to it, and found the extra waiting time to be helpful in understanding
what to expect.
>
> Flying with a CFI has never been relaxing or fun, but that flight, tonight
, for me was still exciting and rewarding. The evening started with me stopp
ing by the hangar to complete some maintenance, when Roy showed up. We start
ed talking, and, wellyou knowone thing led to another and p
retty soon we up in the air, with me in the rear cockpit!! The BFR checkride
went without issue and, before long, I was up by myself! I doubt if I am ca
pable of describing those feelings, or at least doing justice to the whole e
vent (those who have been there will understand), but I can say that I think
it was especially sweet knowing that I did not need to be concerned about t
he mechanics or design of my plane, and needed only to concentrate on my fly
ing.
>
> Definetly, I am not saying that I recommend this process to anyone, only t
hat it worked for me. It=99s quite possible that I could have done my o
wn first flight and subsequent Phase 1 flying, and had no lasting bad experi
ences; but I do know that there were a number of minor issues that were imme
diately apparent upon that first lift off, and a rusty old pilot would have b
een busy.
>
> I wish all of you Pietenpol builders the pleasure I have experienced in th
e building process, and the pleasure of your eventual first flight!
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
>
>
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Way to go Gary!
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
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| Subject: | pilot in command, Gary Boothe |
Yes, 3000-3100 on climb out. At 2700, cruise appears to be about 72mph.
Since re-conditioning my prop, I have not done a static run-up. My
brakes are still ineffective, but I have new brake linings to install,
as suggested by Dan Helsper.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Boyer
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: pilot in command, Gary Boothe
Hi Again Gary,
Sounds like your Piet performs very well with your prop. Your climb solo
and with two is good. I don't remember my dad's old Aeronca Champ doing
that well.
About the Corvair numbers; you are climbing out at 3000 rpm? Cruising at
2700 rpm at ~72mph. What static rpm are you getting now that you refined
your prop?
Cheers,
Jim B.
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Gary... great job! I can only imagine the feeling at this time, but your example
will lead me on.
I look forward to flying in the same sky with you... someday soon, I hope.
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Robert Caldwell
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Ray =93 The email address I have for you does not appear to be
functioning. Please send me a private note so that I can correct it.
Thanks,
Gary
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray
Krause
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one!
Great job, Gary!
I will stop in the first weekend that is available. I am anxious to see
your beautiful plane!
Congratulations.
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 4, 2012, at 8:52 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
Following are some musings about the Phase 1 flight testing for
NX308MB
Having not logged any time since 1984, I made the decision to turn over
Phase 1 testing to CFI/Test Pilot, Roy Richardson. I found that, when
the time came, that brash confidence which dominated my flying in my
youth had been replaced with a calmer patience. It had never been my
intent to let someone else have the pleasure of the first flight, but I
couldn=99t ignore the good fortune of finding the right person at
the right time. Certainly it would have been far less expensive to
merely get current, then do my own test flights, and having over 200 hrs
of tail wheel time I wasn=99t concerned about take offs and
landings, but, for once in my life, I couldn=99t quiet that little
voice, and Safety took the lead.
Previously, I have explained my feelings of relief during the first few
flights, watching from a distance. Eventually, I became accustomed to my
role as =98Crew Chief=99, tweaking, adjusting and repairing
every big and little complaint that the pilot reported. As all of you
who have built your own planes can testify, there is no trepidation
about making repairs; and, if you have also built your own engines, you
have confidence there, too. To me, this became the final chapter of the
building processwithout any of the stress of those early
flights.
Roy addressed Phase 1 professionally, and quickly; flying the required
40 hours in less than a month. He carried with him the
=98Owner=99s Manual=99 that I had copied from someone
else, making notations and changes where needed. We had long
conversations about his discoveries (this was the first Pietenpol he had
seen!), and how much he enjoyed how it flies. Eager to get the
opportunity to fly myself, I was glad that he devoted so much time to
it, and found the extra waiting time to be helpful in understanding what
to expect.
Flying with a CFI has never been relaxing or fun, but that flight,
tonight, for me was still exciting and rewarding. The evening started
with me stopping by the hangar to complete some maintenance, when Roy
showed up. We started talking, and, wellyou knowone
thing led to another and pretty soon we up in the air, with me in the
rear cockpit!! The BFR checkride went without issue and, before long, I
was up by myself! I doubt if I am capable of describing those feelings,
or at least doing justice to the whole event (those who have been there
will understand), but I can say that I think it was especially sweet
knowing that I did not need to be concerned about the mechanics or
design of my plane, and needed only to concentrate on my flying.
Definetly, I am not saying that I recommend this process to anyone, only
that it worked for me. It=99s quite possible that I could have
done my own first flight and subsequent Phase 1 flying, and had no
lasting bad experiences; but I do know that there were a number of minor
issues that were immediately apparent upon that first lift off, and a
rusty old pilot would have been busy.
I wish all of you Pietenpol builders the pleasure I have experienced in
the building process, and the pleasure of your eventual first flight!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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[bowing..humbly]
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 5:36 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: pilot in command, Gary Boothe
Would the owner/operator of NX308MB please step forward to accept this
award..
Here's a huge round of applause for achieving the ultimate dream of every
homebuilder
Gary: flying your hand-built creation for the very first time. Way to go
bro.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe |
On 10/05/2012 10:06 AM, Gary Boothe wrote:
> Yes, 3000-3100 on climb out. At 2700, cruise appears to be about 72mph.
> Since re-conditioning my prop, I have not done a static run-up. My
> brakes are still ineffective, but I have new brake linings to install,
> as suggested by Dan Helsper.
As long as they hold your plane still up to 1500RPM while you do your
mag check, your brakes are fine.
Oh...
And your prop spins the wrong way, too!
;-D
This is absolutely fantastic news, Gary. I am truly humbled by you and
the rest of the people who complete and fly their own heavier-than-air
craft. That sort of personal accomplishment is something I hope to
replicate some time in my life (maybe after I get my two girls through
college...).
Congratulations on a job superbly done!
Cheers!
Dan
do not archive
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Gary,
That is awesome news! Congratulations! Being up there by yourself for the first
time is an amazing experience. It's like the thing is finally alive. There
really is no way to fully describe it!
Good luck and be careful!!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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List,
Below, kind words, no doubt, from my instructor/test pilot. I forward this,
not for the commentary on my own plane because I have been to Brodhead and
have seen true, lasting craftsmanship, but because I think it speaks to the
Pietenpol community as a whole. Roy has done a fair amount of background
reading on Pietenpols, but he really has no inkling about all of you, and
how this could be directed to anyone of you. He has accomplishments which
include CFI, ATP, Rotorcraft and is rumored to have over 15,000 hrs! Pilots
at my airport hale him as "the best stick & rudder instructor" they know (of
course, they don't know you CFI's in Pietenpol Land). His opinion of the
airplanes we build and fly is gratifying.
Funny story: Yesterday, while re-fueling, as usual, I collected some
gawkers. One was a nice old guy who had just flown in in a RV-whatever. He
said,
"It's been a long time since I have seen a Pietenpol, and that's a damn
nice-looking one!"
"It oughta be.it's fresh off the factory floor."
"No kidding? I didn't know they were back in business!"
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: Roy Richardson [mailto:royc_richardson@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one!
Thanks Gary!
Rarely in a pilot's career does one get the opportunity to meet and fly with
a true craftsman....the whole experience with you and the Piet has been a
real highlight in my career. In one short month, I got to fly a plane that
took me back to how flying must have been in the 20's and 30's...no radios,
cold, loud, windy, incredible. Knowing that the airplane was professionally
built and by someone who paid attention to detail; who listened to my
concerns and complaints and fixed them immediately...no matter how small.
In my opinion, your plan and your execution was perfect!
Watching you leave with the Pietenpol was as, if not more, exciting as
soloing a student for the first time.
You have an amazing gift that you can now completely share with others. You
can now see things the way few people on this Earth can. Enjoy every minute
of time with your amazing airplane!
Thanks again for allowing me to be a part of this great experience!
Roy
_____
From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: FW: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one!
Thanks, again, Roy!! Hope your pictures turned out better than mine!
Following is my post to my fellow Pietenpolers.
Gary
From: Gary Boothe [mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:53 PM
Subject: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one!
Following are some musings about the Phase 1 flight testing for NX308MB.
Having not logged any time since 1984, I made the decision to turn over
Phase 1 testing to CFI/Test Pilot, Roy Richardson. I found that, when the
time came, that brash confidence which dominated my flying in my youth had
been replaced with a calmer patience. It had never been my intent to let
someone else have the pleasure of the first flight, but I couldn't ignore
the good fortune of finding the right person at the right time. Certainly it
would have been far less expensive to merely get current, then do my own
test flights, and having over 200 hrs of tail wheel time I wasn't concerned
about take offs and landings, but, for once in my life, I couldn't quiet
that little voice, and Safety took the lead.
Previously, I have explained my feelings of relief during the first few
flights, watching from a distance. Eventually, I became accustomed to my
role as 'Crew Chief', tweaking, adjusting and repairing every big and little
complaint that the pilot reported. As all of you who have built your own
planes can testify, there is no trepidation about making repairs; and, if
you have also built your own engines, you have confidence there, too. To me,
this became the final chapter of the building process.without any of the
stress of those early flights.
Roy addressed Phase 1 professionally, and quickly; flying the required 40
hours in less than a month. He carried with him the 'Owner's Manual' that I
had copied from someone else, making notations and changes where needed. We
had long conversations about his discoveries (this was the first Pietenpol
he had seen!), and how much he enjoyed how it flies. Eager to get the
opportunity to fly myself, I was glad that he devoted so much time to it,
and found the extra waiting time to be helpful in understanding what to
expect.
Flying with a CFI has never been relaxing or fun, but that flight, tonight,
for me was still exciting and rewarding. The evening started with me
stopping by the hangar to complete some maintenance, when Roy showed up. We
started talking, and, well.you know.one thing led to another and pretty soon
we up in the air, with me in the rear cockpit!! The BFR checkride went
without issue and, before long, I was up by myself! I doubt if I am capable
of describing those feelings, or at least doing justice to the whole event
(those who have been there will understand), but I can say that I think it
was especially sweet knowing that I did not need to be concerned about the
mechanics or design of my plane, and needed only to concentrate on my
flying.
Definetly, I am not saying that I recommend this process to anyone, only
that it worked for me. It's quite possible that I could have done my own
first flight and subsequent Phase 1 flying, and had no lasting bad
experiences; but I do know that there were a number of minor issues that
were immediately apparent upon that first lift off, and a rusty old pilot
would have been busy.
I wish all of you Pietenpol builders the pleasure I have experienced in the
building process, and the pleasure of your eventual first flight!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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| Subject: | Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe |
Congratulations Gary - very inspirational.
Now, back down the shop for me. (see, it is inspirational...!)
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: pilot in command, Gary Boothe |
Congratulations Gary - very inspirational.
Now, back down the shop for me. (see, it is inspirational...!)
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Wow Gary
That's awesome!
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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Hey Gary,
That's great stuff, congratulations my friend, fly safe and enjoy!
John
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Pilot - Now I are one! |
Well done Mr. Boothe!!
I believe a cross country is in order.... To Fresno! Maybe we could talk the Groahs
to fly up and have a mini convention... I'll bring my camera and notebook
:D
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What a great letter! Really puts it in perspective the value of what we decided
to make ours!
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