---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 10/07/12: 24 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:35 AM - Re: Piano hinge for aileron (Jack) 2. 03:37 AM - Re: Piano hinge for aileron (Jack) 3. 06:55 AM - Piano hinge for aileron (John Fay) 4. 08:26 AM - Re: Piano hinge for aileron (C N Campbell) 5. 08:26 AM - Re: Piano hinge for aileron (John Francis) 6. 08:37 AM - Re: Re: Piano hinge for aileron (Gary Boothe) 7. 08:50 AM - Re: Piano hinge for aileron (tools) 8. 09:07 AM - moving Scout (taildrags) 9. 09:08 AM - Re: Re: Piano hinge for aileron (Jim Markle) 10. 09:13 AM - Re: Hollywd (Jack Phillips) 11. 09:23 AM - Re: Hollywd (Gary Boothe) 12. 09:29 AM - Re: Hollywd (Jack Phillips) 13. 09:32 AM - Re: Piano hinge for aileron (John Francis) 14. 09:42 AM - Re: Re: Piano hinge for aileron (Gary Boothe) 15. 10:13 AM - Re: Hollywd (Jim Boyer) 16. 10:13 AM - Re: Piano hinge for aileron (John Francis) 17. 10:36 AM - Re: Hollywd (Bill Church) 18. 10:38 AM - Re: Piano hinge for aileron (tools) 19. 10:45 AM - Re: Re: Piano hinge for aileron (Dave Millikan) 20. 11:19 AM - Re: Hollywd http://youtu.be/Tc8FCFdiTPQ (wayne & cathy) 21. 11:25 AM - Hollywd (Dick N) 22. 11:55 AM - Re: Hollywd http://youtu.be/Tc8FCFdiTPQ (Jack Phillips) 23. 12:17 PM - Re: Re: Piano hinge for aileron (Gene Rambo) 24. 05:23 PM - Re: Re: Piano hinge for aileron (shad bell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:35:43 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piano hinge for aileron John from the archives, mine are 2" rolled Thanks for the picture. From what I can see it looks like you have the 2" hinges (i.e. 2 x 1" halves), assuming that the height of the aileron spar is about 2.5". How has this worked out for you? Any problems? Steve-- that sounds about right on your size estimate for my hinges. I couldn't be happier with the aluminum piano hinges. They seal the gap making the ailerons much more effective (and much less sluggish) and I have done literally ZERO maintenance on them in 11 years besides wiping them down when I clean the airplane. Love em'. No regrets. Mike C. Jack Textor DSM NX1929T do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Fay Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:36 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piano hinge for aileron I have a question for Michael Cuy or any others who have mounted their ailerons with piano hinge. How long does the hinge need to be? Is six feet long enough, or is it longer. And what size hinge is it? (How wide is it when it is opened up flat?) I am getting ready to order the hinge so I was wondering. John Fay in Peoria ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:37:55 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piano hinge for aileron More info, mine are 6' Chris, the one question you didn't ask and answer yourself was whether or not to use a single 6' hinge per side, or multiple short pieces. Mike Cuy used a single long hinge on each aileron. I used Tony Bingelis' suggestion to use several short pieces so that any flex of the wing in flight doesn't cause the ailerons to bind. Forget that stuff - use one long hinge. Much easier to mount and keep it aligned. Also allows for easy removal of the aileron by just pulling the hinge pin. Each of my pins are peened in place and they can't be removed, meaning if I have to remove an aileron, I have to remove all those screws. If I flexed my wing enough to cause the hinges to bind I'd pass out from the G loading. Jack Phillips NX899JP Jack Textor DSM NX1929T do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Fay Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:36 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piano hinge for aileron I have a question for Michael Cuy or any others who have mounted their ailerons with piano hinge. How long does the hinge need to be? Is six feet long enough, or is it longer. And what size hinge is it? (How wide is it when it is opened up flat?) I am getting ready to order the hinge so I was wondering. John Fay in Peoria ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:58 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piano hinge for aileron From: John Fay Thanks to all of you who replied to the question about the hinge you used for your ailerons. I know what I am going to order now. John Fay in Peoria ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:09 AM PST US From: "C N Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piano hinge for aileron John, my aileron hinges are the MS 20257-5 from Aircraft Spruce. They are 6-feet long. They do not cover the complete length of the aileron. I split the difference at the ends of the hinge. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Fay" Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:36 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piano hinge for aileron > > I have a question for Michael Cuy or any others who have mounted their > ailerons with piano hinge. > > How long does the hinge need to be? Is six feet long enough, or is it > longer. And what size hinge is it? (How wide is it when it is opened > up flat?) > I am getting ready to order the hinge so I was wondering. > > John Fay > in Peoria > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:09 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piano hinge for aileron From: "John Francis" I'm dealing with the piano hinge now. The first image shows a pretty straight joint however the second shows how the hinge is bowed about a 1/16 of an inch along its' length. Should this be corrected with planing/sanding? -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384845#384845 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07741_187.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07742_647.jpg ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:45 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piano hinge for aileron John, My guess is, Yes, some straightening is called for, but the only area that matters is right at the hinge itself...2 hours of work, tops! Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Francis Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 8:26 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piano hinge for aileron --> I'm dealing with the piano hinge now. The first image shows a pretty straight joint however the second shows how the hinge is bowed about a 1/16 of an inch along its' length. Should this be corrected with planing/sanding? -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384845#384845 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07741_187.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07742_647.jpg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:17 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piano hinge for aileron From: "tools" If your ribs are all the same, then the bow is being transmitted from the spar. So, might want to see if you can correct the bow with the anti-drag wires. If not, do like mentioned and just plane the wing and shim behind the hinge on the aileron (or glue in a little strip and reshape). You're definitely going to want that hinge as straight as possible. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384851#384851 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:02 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout From: "taildrags" Booked my one-way commercial flight down to TX for Nov. 16. The wings will come off the airplane, we'll load it in the back of a Penske van, and I should be back in Oregon the day before Thanksgiving. I need to do a little work on the airplane before reassembling and rejigging (new cooling eyebrows, for one thing), and I don't think I've ever washed the top of the wings completely since owning the airplane. This will be a good chance to do some maintenance before we get back in the air. Annual condx inspection is due, so is my Airman 2nd Class medical. Maybe we'll be flying again by Christmas. I will be based at Medford. I'm looking forward to visiting the N. California builders/pilots in the spring. do not archive -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384852#384852 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:18 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piano hinge for aileron From: Jim Markle SSB3b3VsZCBzdHJhaWdodGVuIGl0IG91dC4gwqBJZiB0aGVyZSdzIGV2ZW4gdGhlIHRpbmllc3Qg YW1vdW50IG9mIGJpbmRpbmcgbm93IGFuZCB5b3UgYWRkIG90aGVyIGZhY3RvcnMgbGlrZSBjb3Zl cmluZywgaHVtaWRpdHksIGV0YyBpbnRvIHRoZSBmb3JtdWxhLCB0aGVuIGFkZCAib3ZlciB0aW1l IiBpbnRvIHRoZSBmb3JtdWxhLi4uLml0IGp1c3QgZG9lc24ndCBzZWVtIHdvcnRoIGl0LiDCoFRo aXMgaXMgYW4gZWFzeSBmaXguCgoKCgpTZW50IHZpYSBzbWFydHBob25lLi4uLkpvaG4gRnJhbmNp cyA8TXJrcmluZ2xlc0Btc24uY29tPiB3cm90ZTotLT4gUGlldGVucG9sLUxpc3QgbWVzc2FnZSBw b3N0ZWQgYnk6ICJKb2huIEZyYW5jaXMiIDxNcmtyaW5nbGVzQG1zbi5jb20+CgpJJ20gZGVhbGlu ZyB3aXRoIHRoZSBwaWFubyBoaW5nZSBub3cuIFRoZSBmaXJzdCBpbWFnZSBzaG93cyBhIHByZXR0 eSBzdHJhaWdodCBqb2ludCBob3dldmVyIHRoZSBzZWNvbmQgc2hvd3MgaG93IHRoZSBoaW5nZSBp cyBib3dlZCBhYm91dCBhIDEvMTYgb2YgYW4gaW5jaCBhbG9uZyBpdHMnIGxlbmd0aC4gU2hvdWxk IHRoaXMgYmUgY29ycmVjdGVkIHdpdGggcGxhbmluZy9zYW5kaW5nPwoKLS0tLS0tLS0KSm9obiBG cmFuY2lzCgoKCgpSZWFkIHRoaXMgdG9waWMgb25saW5lIGhlcmU6CgpodHRwOi8vZm9ydW1zLm1h dHJvbmljcy5jb20vdmlld3RvcGljLnBocD9wPTM4NDg0NSMzODQ4NDUKCgoKCkF0dGFjaG1lbnRz OiAKCmh0dHA6Ly9mb3J1bXMubWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbS8vZmlsZXMvZHNjMDc3NDFfMTg3LmpwZwpo dHRwOi8vZm9ydW1zLm1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20vL2ZpbGVzL2RzYzA3NzQyXzY0Ny5qcGcKCgoKCl8t PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09Cl8tPcKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoCAtIFRoZSBQaWV0ZW5wb2wtTGlzdCBFbWFpbCBGb3J1 bSAtCl8tPSBVc2UgdGhlIE1hdHJvbmljcyBMaXN0IEZlYXR1cmVzIE5hdmlnYXRvciB0byBicm93 c2UKXy09IHRoZSBtYW55IExpc3QgdXRpbGl0aWVzIHN1Y2ggYXMgTGlzdCBVbi9TdWJzY3JpcHRp b24sCl8tPSBBcmNoaXZlIFNlYXJjaCAmIERvd25sb2FkLCA3LURheSBCcm93c2UsIENoYXQsIEZB USwKXy09IFBob3Rvc2hhcmUsIGFuZCBtdWNoIG11Y2ggbW9yZToKXy09Cl8tPcKgwqAgLS0+IGh0 dHA6Ly93d3cubWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbS9OYXZpZ2F0b3I/UGlldGVucG9sLUxpc3QKXy09Cl8tPT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 Cl8tPcKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqAgLSBNQVRST05JQ1MgV0VCIEZPUlVNUyAt Cl8tPSBTYW1lIGdyZWF0IGNvbnRlbnQgYWxzbyBhdmFpbGFibGUgdmlhIHRoZSBXZWIgRm9ydW1z IQpfLT0KXy09wqDCoCAtLT4gaHR0cDovL2ZvcnVtcy5tYXRyb25pY3MuY29tCl8tPQpfLT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PQpf LT3CoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqAgLSBMaXN0IENvbnRyaWJ1dGlvbiBXZWIgU2l0ZSAt Cl8tPcKgIFRoYW5rIHlvdSBmb3IgeW91ciBnZW5lcm91cyBzdXBwb3J0IQpfLT3CoMKgwqDCoMKg wqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgIC1NYXR0IERy YWxsZSwgTGlzdCBBZG1pbi4KXy09wqDCoCAtLT4gaHR0cDovL3d3dy5tYXRyb25pY3MuY29tL2Nv bnRyaWJ1dGlvbgpfLT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PQoKCgo ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:27 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Hollywd And here is a picture of her, with her Pietenpol. Maybe she should come to Brodhead one year? Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TriScout Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:44 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hollywd Of interest: I came across a link of actors past and present that fly. There's an actress that had a Piet.. Michelle Goodeve (Apr 22, 1952). Tv actress, screenwriter. Owned Aeronca 7AC, de Havilland Tiger Moth, Luscombe, Piper Tri-Pacer, Pietenpol Air Camper. Aviation films: roles as pilot in tv series Barnstormers (2005), Danger Bay (1986), Vulcan EFTS (1987), White Fang (1993). http://www.aerofiles.com/00stars.html Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384820#384820 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:23:27 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Hollywd She looks better in her gear than I do in mine. Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 9:13 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Hollywd And here is a picture of her, with her Pietenpol. Maybe she should come to Brodhead one year? Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TriScout Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:44 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hollywd Of interest: I came across a link of actors past and present that fly. There's an actress that had a Piet.. Michelle Goodeve (Apr 22, 1952). Tv actress, screenwriter. Owned Aeronca 7AC, de Havilland Tiger Moth, Luscombe, Piper Tri-Pacer, Pietenpol Air Camper. Aviation films: roles as pilot in tv series Barnstormers (2005), Danger Bay (1986), Vulcan EFTS (1987), White Fang (1993). http://www.aerofiles.com/00stars.html Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384820#384820 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:29:18 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Hollywd Probably looks even better out of it. _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 12:22 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Hollywd She looks better in her gear than I do in mine. Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 9:13 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Hollywd And here is a picture of her, with her Pietenpol. Maybe she should come to Brodhead one year? Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TriScout Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:44 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hollywd Of interest: I came across a link of actors past and present that fly. There's an actress that had a Piet.. Michelle Goodeve (Apr 22, 1952). Tv actress, screenwriter. Owned Aeronca 7AC, de Havilland Tiger Moth, Luscombe, Piper Tri-Pacer, Pietenpol Air Camper. Aviation films: roles as pilot in tv series Barnstormers (2005), Danger Bay (1986), Vulcan EFTS (1987), White Fang (1993). http://www.aerofiles.com/00stars.html Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384820#384820 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:32:28 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piano hinge for aileron From: "John Francis" It appears the bump in the front aileron spar was transmitted via the ribs from a bump in the rear main wing spar which is hard to see with the ribs on. I won't trammel the wings to try to correct this as they are square and although you might be able to correct this bump, you would twist the wings out of whack someplace else. If you look closely at the attached image you will see a blue chalk line I just made and it shows the bump. A hand plane should remedy this but I will lose a 1/16 inch of material from that section of aileron spar. Should I glue some 1/16 inch plywood on the back side for support? -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384854#384854 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07744_390.jpg ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:42:02 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piano hinge for aileron John, You only need to remove material at the top of the spar. I'm willing to bet your life that it won't matter. ;-) Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Francis Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 9:32 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piano hinge for aileron --> It appears the bump in the front aileron spar was transmitted via the ribs from a bump in the rear main wing spar which is hard to see with the ribs on. I won't trammel the wings to try to correct this as they are square and although you might be able to correct this bump, you would twist the wings out of whack someplace else. If you look closely at the attached image you will see a blue chalk line I just made and it shows the bump. A hand plane should remedy this but I will lose a 1/16 inch of material from that section of aileron spar. Should I glue some 1/16 inch plywood on the back side for support? -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384854#384854 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07744_390.jpg ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:13:54 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hollywd Jack thanks for the pictures. It would be neat if she is still flying and still has the Piet. Jim B. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:13:57 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piano hinge for aileron From: "John Francis" Correct Gary, just that 1" material the hinge attaches too. I still might add some plywood pieces under the bolts in that area since it is my life you are betting on. [Shocked] -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384859#384859 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:36:07 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hollywd From: "Bill Church" Jim, Michelle still has the Piet, and just recovered it a few years ago. I tried posting a photo, but it wouldn't go through. I'll try again later when I'm at my home computer, where I have access to my photos. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384861#384861 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:38:23 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piano hinge for aileron From: "tools" You're basically laminating on a piece of metal there, which is stronger than wood. The loss of wood isn't going to matter. MIGHT want to add a few extra screws in the part that attaches to the wing for piece of mind. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384862#384862 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:45:49 AM PST US From: Dave Millikan Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piano hinge for aileron I was going to use piano hinge too, then it dawned on me that the fastners were all in a line, not good soooo I went to Ace- Aircraft Supply and bot screen door hinges just like Bernard--- did. fasteners- spread the lod across the 3 inch or so beam. Dave- NX1QZ, Inverness,Fl --- On Sun, 10/7/12, John Francis wrote: From: John Francis Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piano hinge for aileron Correct Gary, just that 1" material the hinge attaches too.- I still migh t add some plywood pieces under the bolts in that area since it is my life you are betting on. [Shocked] -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384859#384859 le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 11:19:09 AM PST US From: wayne & cathy Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hollywd http://youtu.be/Tc8FCFdiTPQ Michelle Goodeve is a canadian gal that has flown quite a number of clasic aircraft. she is a fixture around the tiger boys group in guelph ontario. she just recently restored a piet. that was found in a barn north of there . the video shows her having fun in the first cub in canada. at the end of the video is a shot of a thruxton jackeroo (the only one flying in the world) she usualy flys that at some point in time belonged to her and her husband. she has quite an aviation history. wayne in waterloo on. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 11:25:57 AM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hollywd Hasnt anyone noticed the 6 cyl engine over her shoulder. That jumped out at me right away. Dick N. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 11:55:11 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Hollywd http://youtu.be/Tc8FCFdiTPQ Can't some of you Canadians convince her to make an appearance at Brodhead next year? That would really be cool! Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of wayne & cathy Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hollywd http://youtu.be/Tc8FCFdiTPQ Michelle Goodeve is a canadian gal that has flown quite a number of clasic aircraft. she is a fixture around the tiger boys group in guelph ontario. she just recently restored a piet. that was found in a barn north of there . the video shows her having fun in the first cub in canada. at the end of the video is a shot of a thruxton jackeroo (the only one flying in the world) she usualy flys that at some point in time belonged to her and her husband. she has quite an aviation history. wayne in waterloo on. ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 12:17:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piano hinge for aileron From: Gene Rambo I don't know about sanding. It is hard to tell from photo, but you might need to pop the false spar loose and shim it straight before reattaching it. On Oct 7, 2012, at 11:25 AM, "John Francis" wrote: > > I'm dealing with the piano hinge now. The first image shows a pretty straight joint however the second shows how the hinge is bowed about a 1/16 of an inch along its' length. Should this be corrected with planing/sanding? > > -------- > John Francis > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384845#384845 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07741_187.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07742_647.jpg > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:23:56 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piano hinge for aileron You could simply shim the hinge streight with washers, shims etc, if it is ony 1/16 or so.- we have a washer/shim on one of our aileron hinges and i t hasn't been an issue in 320 hrs of flying. - Shad --- On Sun, 10/7/12, Gene Rambo wrote: From: Gene Rambo Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piano hinge for aileron I don't know about sanding.- It is hard to tell from photo, but you might need to pop the false spar loose and shim it straight before reattaching i t. On Oct 7, 2012, at 11:25 AM, "John Francis" wrote: > > I'm dealing with the piano hinge now. The first image shows a pretty stra ight joint however the second shows how the hinge is bowed about a 1/16 of an inch along its' length. Should this be corrected with planing/sanding? > > -------- > John Francis > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384845#384845 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07741_187.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07742_647.jpg > > > > > > > > le, List Admin. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.