Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 10/10/12


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:46 AM - Re: First Years Progress (Dave and Connie)
     2. 06:34 AM - Re: moving Scout (AircamperN11MS)
     3. 06:41 AM - Re: Evening With the Boyers (kevinpurtee)
     4. 07:27 AM - Re: Re: moving Scout (Gary Boothe)
     5. 07:35 AM - Re: moving Scout (AircamperN11MS)
     6. 10:23 AM - Fish Scale Thrust (bender)
     7. 10:27 AM - Re: Fish Scale Thrust (Gary Boothe)
     8. 10:32 AM - Re: Evening With the Boyers (Jim Boyer)
     9. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: Evening With the Boyers (Jim Boyer)
    10. 10:53 AM - Re: Fish Scale Thrust (helspersew@aol.com)
    11. 11:03 AM - Re: Fish Scale Thrust (gboothe5@comcast.net)
    12. 11:07 AM - Re: Evening With the Boyers (kevinpurtee)
    13. 11:20 AM - Re: Re: Evening With the Boyers (Gary Boothe)
    14. 01:23 PM - Re: Fish Scale Thrust (bender)
    15. 01:26 PM - Re: Re: First Years Progress (Dave Millikan)
    16. 02:04 PM - Re: moving Scout (John Kuhfahl)
    17. 04:56 PM - Re: moving Scout (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
    18. 05:46 PM - cable and fittings (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
    19. 08:02 PM - Re: moving Scout (taildrags)
    20. 11:05 PM - computer & internet (zieglera)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:46:23 AM PST US
    From: Dave and Connie <dmatt@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: First Years Progress
    Dave; Although it will never be a Pietenpol (always a Grega), it looks beautiful! You have made a tremendous amount of progress in just a year. Welcome to the Air Camper/Aircamper fleet, one of the few places where slower is better, older is cooler, and you will always get more attention with your airplane on the ramp than any RV will ;o) -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385024#385024 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com


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    Time: 06:34:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: moving Scout
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Enjoy your IFR ( I follow roads) trip. Should you get lost, the offer still stands. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385037#385037


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    Time: 06:41:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Evening With the Boyers
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    No, Gary. I offered to lend you the Cloudcars. I offered to SELL you the Warp Drive, for a reduced price, due to some minor dings. do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385041#385041


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    Time: 07:27:33 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: moving Scout
    Not to worry. Oscar THINKS he can slip by us by taking the back roads, but I'll be running a blockade on 395 two days before Thanksgiving. He'll have to stop or crash into me! Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AircamperN11MS Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:34 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: moving Scout --> <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> Enjoy your IFR ( I follow roads) trip. Should you get lost, the offer still stands. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385037#385037


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    Time: 07:35:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: moving Scout
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    I put a request in to the weather gods. He will need to come over to the west side of CA due to snow falling on his planned route. Then he will have to visit us. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385045#385045


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    Time: 10:23:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Fish Scale Thrust
    From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
    Not the scales on the side of a fish.. got the official piet prop carver fish scale from the prop man Dan Helsper via UPS today... and ran right out to try it. My A with homebuilt prop 76X42 was turning 1750 rpm per my 1930 moth tach and showed 275 lbs of fish scale thrust .... and smooth as butter. i taxied to the hangar next door for coffee and got to use the radio.. first time talking to the tower as "experimental 1929F".... the guys next door all got a kick out of it.. Jeff Faith SDF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385054#385054


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    Time: 10:27:56 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Fish Scale Thrust
    Very cool, Jeff!! I'm glad you used the 'official' industrial fish scales, too. Your thrust sounds plenty good. Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:23 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fish Scale Thrust --> <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> Not the scales on the side of a fish.. got the official piet prop carver fish scale from the prop man Dan Helsper via UPS today... and ran right out to try it. My A with homebuilt prop 76X42 was turning 1750 rpm per my 1930 moth tach and showed 275 lbs of fish scale thrust .... and smooth as butter. i taxied to the hangar next door for coffee and got to use the radio.. first time talking to the tower as "experimental 1929F".... the guys next door all got a kick out of it.. Jeff Faith SDF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385054#385054


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    Time: 10:32:21 AM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Evening With the Boyers
    Gary said;=C2- where he graciously allowed me to tinker with him on his e ngine. We set the starter, and timed the distributer. He=99s not too far from running his engine now! Actually I was stuck and he really helped me get over the hump. It is alway s fun and enjoyable to have Gary stop and visit/help. I think thats one of the nice things about building a Piet; the other people building Pietenpols too. I am getting there now that I am retired I can and have been working on it more. Cheers, Jim B.


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    Time: 10:40:06 AM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Evening With the Boyers
    Oh darn Kevin, you mean the Warp drive prop got dinged too! Reading your comments about the ailerons made me wonder how the right aileron managed to survive complete with hinges. Glad you are making such good progress rebuilding FBG. Cheers, Jim B.


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    Time: 10:53:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fish Scale Thrust
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    You are now good to go man. I registered 260 lbs. You have got plety of thr ust there Jeff!! No worries. Congratulations!! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> Sent: Wed, Oct 10, 2012 12:23 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fish Scale Thrust > Not the scales on the side of a fish.. got the official piet prop carver fish scale from the prop man Dan Helsper via UPS today... and ran right out to try it. My A with homebuilt prop 76X42 was turning 1750 rpm per my 1930 moth tach a nd showed 275 lbs of fish scale thrust .... and smooth as butter. i taxied to the hangar next door for coffee and got to use the radio.. firs t time talking to the tower as "experimental 1929F".... the guys next door al l got a kick out of it.. Jeff Faith SDF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385054#385054


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    Time: 11:03:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fish Scale Thrust
    From: gboothe5@comcast.net
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    Time: 11:07:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Evening With the Boyers
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    "Dinged" is a major understatement, Jim, and Gary knows that. He was there and saw it first hand. That's what makes it funny, of course. The right aileron survived, but was thoroughly banged up. I was just amazed at how well those hardware store hinges held up on both ailerons after all the abuse. do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385062#385062


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    Time: 11:20:07 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Evening With the Boyers
    Yes, very funny. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:07 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening With the Boyers --> <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> "Dinged" is a major understatement, Jim, and Gary knows that. He was there and saw it first hand. That's what makes it funny, of course. The right aileron survived, but was thoroughly banged up. I was just amazed at how well those hardware store hinges held up on both ailerons after all the abuse. do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385062#385062


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    Time: 01:23:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fish Scale Thrust
    From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
    Hey Gary... here is an album http://s1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/jfaithbass/ And Thanks a million Dan.... the scale will be back soon Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385069#385069


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    Time: 01:26:09 PM PST US
    From: Dave Millikan <n11dmx@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: First Years Progress
    What a coinidece.. We ara a Dave and Connie too. I,m 2 yrs into a Pete NX1QZ Wings and Tail done- Fuse 20 %,,. VW- engine. Dave, Inverness, Fla --- On Wed, 10/10/12, Dave and Connie <dmatt@frontiernet.net> wrote: From: Dave and Connie <dmatt@frontiernet.net> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: First Years Progress t> Dave; Although it will never be a Pietenpol (always a Grega), it looks beautiful! - You have made a tremendous amount of progress in just a year.- Welcom e to the Air Camper/Aircamper fleet, one of the few places where slower is better, older is cooler, and you will always get more attention with your a irplane on the ramp than any RV will ;o) -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385024#385024 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com le, List Admin.


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    Time: 02:04:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: moving Scout
    From: John Kuhfahl <kuhlcouper@gmail.com>
    Oscar, Lost or never had your number. Been off-line a bit--give me a call when you get close--will help you with Piet. I have a not-so-fancy place for you to stay here at 8T8. My Piet is coming along...John 210 365 0120 On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:06 AM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Booked my one-way commercial flight down to TX for Nov. 16. The wings > will come off the airplane, we'll load it in the back of a Penske van, and > I should be back in Oregon the day before Thanksgiving. I need to do a > little work on the airplane before reassembling and rejigging (new cooling > eyebrows, for one thing), and I don't think I've ever washed the top of the > wings completely since owning the airplane. This will be a good chance to > do some maintenance before we get back in the air. Annual condx inspection > is due, so is my Airman 2nd Class medical. Maybe we'll be flying again by > Christmas. I will be based at Medford. > > I'm looking forward to visiting the N. California builders/pilots in the > spring. > > do not archive > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384852#384852 > > -- John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret), President, KUHLCOUPER LLC


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    Time: 04:56:38 PM PST US
    From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
    Subject: Re: moving Scout
    Oscar, I would love to help with Scout. I will probably have part of the weekend to work with y'all. blue Skies, Steve D 580-484-1024 ----- Original Message ----- From: John Kuhfahl <kuhlcouper@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout > Oscar, > Lost or never had your number. Been off-line a bit--give me a > call when > you get close--will help you with Piet. I have a not-so-fancy > place for > you to stay here at 8T8. My Piet is coming along...John 210 365 0120 > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:06 AM, taildrags < wrote: > > > > > Booked my one-way commercial flight down to TX for Nov. 16. The wings > > will come off the airplane, we'll load it in the back of a Penske van, and > > I should be back in Oregon the day before Thanksgiving. I need to do a > > little work on the airplane before reassembling and rejigging (new cooling > > eyebrows, for one thing), and I don't think I've ever washed the top of the > > wings completely since owning the airplane. This will be a good chance to > > do some maintenance before we get back in the air. Annual condx inspection > > is due, so is my Airman 2nd Class medical. Maybe we'll be flying again by > > Christmas. I will be based at Medford. > > > > I'm looking forward to visiting the N. California builders/pilots in the > > spring. > > > > do not archive > > > > -------- > > Oscar Zuniga > > Medford, OR > > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > > A75 power > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384852#384852 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret), > President, KUHLCOUPER LLC


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    Time: 05:46:20 PM PST US
    From: TOM MICHELLE BRANT <tmbrant@msn.com>
    Subject: cable and fittings
    I thought I recently saw a thread on this but cannot find it.. So - sorry if this has been asked recently.. Was wondering if I use stainless cable=2C do I use copper=2C aluminum or zi nc crimps / thimbles=2C etc.. Seems odd that they wouldn't have stainless fittings to go along with it but I cannot find them anywhere. Same questio n if I were to use galvanized cable - although that seems more clear that I would use zinc fittings. Specifically=2C looking at doing the drag/anti-d rag wires in the wings. Thanks=2C Tom B.


    Message 19


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    Time: 08:02:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: moving Scout
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Work party will begin on Saturday morning, 17 November, at 8T8. I hope to have the van out there and ready to start dismounting the wings by about 9AM. Experience has proven that while it is possible to handle the wings with just two guys and some temporary props, it is far easier and quicker with three or four people and no props or temporary supports. The plan is to borrow the EAA chapter flatbed from Ed Seurer and take it to the hangar, load the fuselage onto the flatbed with the ramps after the wings are off, back the van up to the flatbed, then load the fuselage from the flatbed up into the van using the ramps again. Should be much easier to do it in two smaller bites than trying to get it from ground level up to the floor of the van all in one lift. John: my number is (210)621-4729 and thanks for the offer to help. Your assistance was invaluable last December when I loaded the other stuff out of my hangar. Gary: a little snow won't deter me from my appointed rounds, although that stretch from Susanville up to Mount Shasta can get a little dicey in a winter storm, as can the Siskiyou Summit. do not archive -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385093#385093


    Message 20


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    Time: 11:05:13 PM PST US
    Subject: computer & internet
    From: "zieglera" <ziegleradevid@yahoo.com>
    Does sharing internet make the internet slow down on one computer? I have a pc and wireless laptop connected with a router. The internet on the laptop is fine. When the laptop is connected it makes my computer internet slow, the internet is slow not the computer. When the laptop is not connected the internet on the computer works fine. -------- my life my way Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385095#385095




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