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1. 04:55 AM - Re: Re: Tubing Coping (Jim Markle)
2. 05:11 AM - Re: Wood gear leg material? (Jerry Dotson)
3. 05:25 AM - Re: Re: Wheels (Michael Perez)
4. 06:14 AM - Re: Wheels (echobravo4)
5. 06:38 AM - UK incident (Douwe Blumberg)
6. 06:40 AM - Re: Re: Wheels (Michael Perez)
7. 07:05 AM - Re: Re: Wheels (Amsafetyc)
8. 07:07 AM - Re: UK incident (Gerry Holland)
9. 08:23 AM - Re: official fish scales (helspersew@aol.com)
10. 08:26 AM - Re: Re: Wheels (Jack)
11. 08:47 AM - Re: Re: Wheels (Michael Perez)
12. 09:39 AM - make sure your tailwheel steering springs are secure.... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
13. 10:13 AM - Re: official fish scales (Andre Abreu)
14. 11:00 AM - Re: official fish scales (taildrags)
15. 11:55 AM - Re: official fish scales (helspersew@aol.com)
16. 03:04 PM - Re: official fish scales (Gene Rambo)
17. 03:04 PM - Fw: New to Pietenpol list (G)
18. 03:14 PM - Re: official fish scales (helspersew@aol.com)
19. 03:29 PM - Re: official fish scales (Gene Rambo)
20. 05:04 PM - Re: Fw: New to Pietenpol list (Dave Millikan)
21. 06:15 PM - Re: Fw: New to Pietenpol list (Dick N)
22. 06:16 PM - Re: Fw: New to Pietenpol list (Gary Boothe)
23. 06:17 PM - Re: official fish scales (Gary Boothe)
24. 06:22 PM - Re: Fw: New to Pietenpol list (Dick N)
25. 07:14 PM - Re: official fish scales (kevinpurtee)
26. 09:15 PM - Fuselage (biplan53)
27. 09:29 PM - Re: make sure your tailwheel steering springs are secure.... (biplan53)
28. 09:30 PM - Re: make sure your tailwheel steering springs are secure.... (biplan53)
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| Subject: | Re: Tubing Coping |
I'm here....and where WOULD I go???? :-)
Just be aware of the ID and OD and their relationship then go to the shop and keep
makin' stuff......
-----Original Message-----
>From: K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net>
>Sent: Oct 11, 2012 10:21 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tubing Coping
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>
>Jim... where did you go? Am I missing something on the tubing coping?
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>Mark Chouinard
>Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
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>Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Wood gear leg material? |
I used the cap strip. It was the same quality as the main spars. Bought it at ACS
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
do not archive
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If you guys have one wheel loose laced or finished to use as a template, tr
y doing the other wheel yourself. I had zero wheel lacing experience and la
ced one of my wheels myself. It is really quite simple and quite rewarding.
- It is very easy to see if you got something in the wrong place. The spo
kes have a specific length and bend to go in specific locations, so it beco
mes obvious when you try to fit a spoke in a location it is not meant to be
. (Crossed laced spokes intended for brakes. The straight laced, radial spo
kes will all be the same.)
After loosed laced, mount wheel on an axle, (I used my actual axle clamped
to my table) and true using a dial indicator.
Michael Perez
=0APietenpol HINT Videos
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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I wouldn't say cross-laced wheels
are just for use with brakes- it makes
a much stronger wheel- radial laced
wheels are not as strong in side loads.
Probably more info than anyone needs-
but this is an excellent book on the subject
The Bicycle Wheel
Jobst Brandt
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
Read this topic online here:
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Glad you're OK Gerry!
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True, not just for brakes, but required with brakes.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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I learned a valuable lesson about spokes long ago. I had ventured an attempt to
adjust the spokes on my motorcycle so I began the process of harmonic evaluation.
Tapping the spokes for sound the same ting sound at each Every time I
got a thud I tightened the spoke by the time I finished, I could wave at the wheel
and it would wave back at me. I never knew a rim could become oblong, wavy
and rub the frame and swing in so many places all at the same time.
I had a friend come over and rescue me it took hours to correct what took minutes
to screw up. From then on I swore off spokes and spoke adjustment. It's better
to call uncle than to venture that far into the unknown. Uncle didn't have
a clue on fixing it either.
A lesson learned and a process respected to those who have the know how to keep
a wheel round and true
John
Not gonna do it!
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 11, 2012, at 9:43 PM, "echobravo4" <eab4@comcast.net> wrote:
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> John
> I'll let you know when I'm ready to start
> no the wheels and you can get ahold of
> "That guy"!
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> Earl Brown
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> I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where
I intended to be.
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Thanks Douwe!
Back from Australia and some great flying there so have a renewed sense of wanting
another project.
Taking my A75 for shock loading check and looking a two possible projects next
week. The Corben must RIP.
A man needs an Aircraft, Dog and Woman in that order! Only joking ladies!
Flew in a Rotec 3600 powered Spacewalker in Oz. Brilliant airplane!
Regards
Gerry
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| Subject: | Re: official fish scales |
Oscar,
Let me know when you are ready. I'll have it here to send you for your test
. I am only the caretaker of the Official- Piet- List- Industrial- Fish Sca
le. It now belongs to the ages!! This is an incentive to carve another prop
. I am the low man on the totem pole with my lousy 260 lbs!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 11, 2012 11:14 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
How does one go about getting on the circulation list for the Official Fish
Scales? It seems that the Scales have so far been limited to use by prop
carvers, but I would be interested in knowing how Scout fares with the A75
and wood prop. I also have a Prince prop for it and would be interested in
a "fish head to fish head" comparison between the two if I had the scales
available and could run one and then the other.
I will not have Scout up here and ready for testing until November, but wou
ld be happy to pay shipping over and back if the Official Scales are availa
ble to non-carvers.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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What Michael not a stainless rim, omg... :)
Do not archive
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Oct 12, 2012, at 7:24 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> If you guys have one wheel loose laced or finished to use as a template, t
ry doing the other wheel yourself. I had zero wheel lacing experience and la
ced one of my wheels myself. It is really quite simple and quite rewarding.
It is very easy to see if you got something in the wrong place. The spokes h
ave a specific length and bend to go in specific locations, so it becomes ob
vious when you try to fit a spoke in a location it is not meant to be. (Cros
sed laced spokes intended for brakes. The straight laced, radial spokes will
all be the same.)
>
> After loosed laced, mount wheel on an axle, (I used my actual axle clamped
to my table) and true using a dial indicator.
>
> Michael Perez
> Pietenpol HINT Videos
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
>
> <IMG_4984.jpg>
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It's true. Custom made SS rims are a little pricey!- So I went with unpol
ished aluminum. The savings in weight and $$ made me feel better about it.
Michael Perez
=0APietenpol HINT Videos
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | make sure your tailwheel steering springs are secure.... |
We lost a spring on our Champ tailwheel steering years ago and almost groun
dlooped.
Here's a scary result of losing a spring on landing.
Make sure those things won't pop off. Even if they do you can still contro
l directionally
with prop blasts over the rudder.
Mike C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGOwcnGts4s&feature=related
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| Subject: | Re: official fish scales |
Is there something special about this particular scale?
Thanks
Andy Abreu
Toledo Ohio
Pietenpol A65
N6186L
--- On Fri, 10/12/12, helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
From: helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
=0AOscar,=0A=0A-=0A=0ALet me know when you are ready. I'll have it here t
o send you for your test. I am only the caretaker of the Official- Piet- Li
st- Industrial- Fish Scale. It now belongs to the ages!!-This is an incen
tive to carve another prop. I am the low man on the totem pole with my lous
y 260 lbs!=0A=0A-=0A=0ADan Helsper=0A=0APuryear, TN=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----
-Original Message-----
=0AFrom: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
=0ATo: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
=0ASent: Thu, Oct 11, 2012 11:14 pm
=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
How does one go about getting on the circulation list-for the Official Fi
sh Scales?- It seems that the Scales have so far been limited to use by p
rop carvers, but I would be interested in knowing how Scout fares with the
A75 and wood prop.- I also have a Prince prop for it and would be interes
ted in a "fish-head to fish head" comparison between the two if I had the
scales available and could run one and then the other.
=0A-
=0AI will not have Scout up here and ready for testing until November, but
would be happy to pay shipping over and back if the Official Scales are ava
ilable to non-carvers.
=0A-
=0AOscar Zuniga
=0AMedford, OR
=0AAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"
=0AA75 power
=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A" target="_blank">http://www.matr
onics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0Atp://forums.matronics.com=0A_blank">ht
=================0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: official fish scales |
It is rumored that Bernard Pietenpol used the Official Scales to weigh all of the
walleye and muskies that he caught, and that he used the Scales to check static
thrust of his very first airplane. Some say that his fingerprints can still
be seen (faintly) on the housing. Its readouts are unerring and rock-solid,
and it's not for nothing that these Scales are also known as the "Piet De-Liar"
since they always tell the truth.
do not archive
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: official fish scales |
No, other than it is a "controlled" fish scale, and the same one used by (s
o far) three of us. So it conveys a certain amount of reliable information
when it comes to a thrust measurement as compared to other Piets. :O)
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Abreu <andre_abreu_2000@yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
Is there something special about this particular scale?
Thanks
Andy Abreu
Toledo Ohio
Pietenpol A65
N6186L
--- On Fri, 10/12/12, helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
From: helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
Oscar,
Let me know when you are ready. I'll have it here to send you for your test
. I am only the caretaker of the Official- Piet- List- Industrial- Fish Sca
le. It now belongs to the ages!! This is an incentive to carve another prop
. I am the low man on the totem pole with my lousy 260 lbs!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 11, 2012 11:14 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
How does one go about getting on the circulation list for the Official Fish
Scales? It seems that the Scales have so far been limited to use by prop
carvers, but I would be interested in knowing how Scout fares with the A75
and wood prop. I also have a Prince prop for it and would be interested in
a "fish head to fish head" comparison between the two if I had the scales
available and could run one and then the other.
I will not have Scout up here and ready for testing until November, but wou
ld be happy to pay shipping over and back if the Official Scales are availa
ble to non-carvers.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
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http://www.matro===================
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| Subject: | official fish scales |
Put me in line for the scale . . . I am ready to run the engine. Also=2C t
o those of you running Model As=2C are you using pure water or some type of
antifreeze?? It is starting to freeze here=2C so I am hesitant to fill it
to run just to have to drain. Gene
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
From: helspersew@aol.com
No=2C other than it is a "controlled" fish scale=2C and the same one used b
y (so far) three of us. So it conveys a certain amount of reliable informat
ion when it comes to a thrust measurement as compared to other Piets. :O)
Dan Helsper
Puryear=2C TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Abreu <andre_abreu_2000@yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri=2C Oct 12=2C 2012 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
Is there something special about this particular scale?
Thanks
Andy Abreu
Toledo Ohio
Pietenpol A65
N6186L
--- On Fri=2C 10/12/12=2C helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
From: helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
Oscar=2C
Let me know when you are ready. I'll have it here to send you for your test
. I am only the caretaker of the Official- Piet- List- Industrial- Fish Sca
le. It now belongs to the ages!! This is an incentive to carve another prop
. I am the low man on the totem pole with my lousy 260 lbs!
Dan Helsper
Puryear=2C TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thu=2C Oct 11=2C 2012 11:14 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
How does one go about getting on the circulation list for the Official Fish
Scales? It seems that the Scales have so far been limited to use by prop
carvers=2C but I would be interested in knowing how Scout fares with the A7
5 and wood prop. I also have a Prince prop for it and would be interested
in a "fish head to fish head" comparison between the two if I had the scale
s available and could run one and then the other.
I will not have Scout up here and ready for testing until November=2C but w
ould be happy to pay shipping over and back if the Official Scales are avai
lable to non-carvers.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford=2C OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
http://www.matro===================
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: New to Pietenpol list
From: G <grantz5906@aol.com>
CC:
Hello, all,
I am Grant Ziebell and live in Savannah, TN. I had been considering building a
Pietenpol for a while and have now taken the plunge. Plans are in hand, as
is the Corvair conversion manual.
I have been studying the plans and reviewing the archive contents of this invaluable
list. Much to learn before the first sawdust flies.
Is it worthwhile to purchase the "kits" from Aircraft Spruce or just develop my
own wood needs list?
I also read in the archives about McCormacks as a wood supplier. Is this a good
way to go since I will not be able to actually go to their facility ans select
the wood?
Had the opportunity a few weeks ago to spend time with Randy Bush and Dan Helsper
at the Beech River fly-in. Thanks, gentlemen, for the words of encouragement.
I look forward to the building experience and would like to hear from 'horzpool'
regarding his wider center section.
Grant Ziebell
Savannah, TN
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| Subject: | Re: official fish scales |
Per the advice of K. Perkins I run pure water. Its in a heated hangar for t
he winter so I don't have to worry. As far as The Fish Scale goes, Gene sen
d me your address off-list when you are ready. I expect to receive it back
from Jeff Faith (along with some of his home-brewed beer) any day now :O)
BTW how 'bout some photos? You're copying everything from others anyway, so
there is no reason for secrecy.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 5:04 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
Put me in line for the scale . . . I am ready to run the engine. Also, to
those of you running Model As, are you using pure water or some type of ant
ifreeze?? It is starting to freeze here, so I am hesitant to fill it to ru
n just to have to drain.
Gene
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
From: helspersew@aol.com
No, other than it is a "controlled" fish scale, and the same one used by (s
o far) three of us. So it conveys a certain amount of reliable information
when it comes to a thrust measurement as compared to other Piets. :O)
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Abreu <andre_abreu_2000@yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
Is there something special about this particular scale?
Thanks
Andy Abreu
Toledo Ohio
Pietenpol A65
N6186L
--- On Fri, 10/12/12, helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
From: helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
Oscar,
Let me know when you are ready. I'll have it here to send you for your test
. I am only the caretaker of the Official- Piet- List- Industrial- Fish Sca
le. It now belongs to the ages!! This is an incentive to carve another prop
. I am the low man on the totem pole with my lousy 260 lbs!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 11, 2012 11:14 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
How does one go about getting on the circulation list for the Official Fish
Scales? It seems that the Scales have so far been limited to use by prop
carvers, but I would be interested in knowing how Scout fares with the A75
and wood prop. I also have a Prince prop for it and would be interested in
a "fish head to fish head" comparison between the two if I had the scales
available and could run one and then the other.
I will not have Scout up here and ready for testing until November, but wou
ld be happy to pay shipping over and back if the Official Scales are availa
ble to non-carvers.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
http://www.matro===================
" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | official fish scales |
After seeing Douwe's and Gary's airplanes=2C I am ashamed to show photos .
. . . I am painting the wing as we speak. Just in case anyone was wonderi
ng=2C it takes 1 1/2 gallons of dope to make a complete wet cross coat on a
30 ft one piece wing (2X completely around wing=2C one side to side=2C one
up and down). Just finished my 5th cross coat . . . . Wet sand tomorrow
=2C silver on sunday
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
From: helspersew@aol.com
Per the advice of K. Perkins I run pure water. Its in a heated hangar for t
he winter so I don't have to worry. As far as The Fish Scale goes=2C Gene s
end me your address off-list when you are ready. I expect to receive it bac
k from Jeff Faith (along with some of his home-brewed beer) any day now :O)
BTW how 'bout some photos? You're copying everything from others anyway=2C
so there is no reason for secrecy.
Dan Helsper
Puryear=2C TN
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From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
Sent: Fri=2C Oct 12=2C 2012 5:04 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
Put me in line for the scale . . . I am ready to run the engine. Also=2C t
o those of you running Model As=2C are you using pure water or some type of
antifreeze?? It is starting to freeze here=2C so I am hesitant to fill it
to run just to have to drain.
Gene
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
From: helspersew@aol.com
No=2C other than it is a "controlled" fish scale=2C and the same one used b
y (so far) three of us. So it conveys a certain amount of reliable informat
ion when it comes to a thrust measurement as compared to other Piets. :O)
Dan Helsper
Puryear=2C TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Abreu <andre_abreu_2000@yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri=2C Oct 12=2C 2012 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
Is there something special about this particular scale?
Thanks
Andy Abreu
Toledo Ohio
Pietenpol A65
N6186L
--- On Fri=2C 10/12/12=2C helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
From: helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
Oscar=2C
Let me know when you are ready. I'll have it here to send you for your test
. I am only the caretaker of the Official- Piet- List- Industrial- Fish Sca
le. It now belongs to the ages!! This is an incentive to carve another prop
. I am the low man on the totem pole with my lousy 260 lbs!
Dan Helsper
Puryear=2C TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thu=2C Oct 11=2C 2012 11:14 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
How does one go about getting on the circulation list for the Official Fish
Scales? It seems that the Scales have so far been limited to use by prop
carvers=2C but I would be interested in knowing how Scout fares with the A7
5 and wood prop. I also have a Prince prop for it and would be interested
in a "fish head to fish head" comparison between the two if I had the scale
s available and could run one and then the other.
I will not have Scout up here and ready for testing until November=2C but w
ould be happy to pay shipping over and back if the Official Scales are avai
lable to non-carvers.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford=2C OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Welcome,..I am 2 yrs into a pete.wings and tail are built, fuse 10 %.
Steel fuse, have made many changes, moved wing aft based on William Wynes c
g- measurements at Brodhead 2010 and 2011.
3 ft ctr- section bbig aq$$ wheels from airdromes and aeroplanes in Misso
uri.
Dave-- N11DMX@yahoo.com
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: New to Pietenpol list
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Subject: New to Pietenpol list
From: G <grantz5906@aol.com>
CC:
Hello, all,
I am Grant Ziebell and live in Savannah, TN.- I had been considering buil
ding a Pietenpol for a while and have now taken the plunge.- Plans are in
hand,- as is the Corvair conversion manual.
I have been studying the plans and reviewing the archive contents of this i
nvaluable list.- Much to learn before the first sawdust flies.
Is it worthwhile to purchase the "kits" from Aircraft Spruce or just develo
p my own wood needs list?
I also read in the archives about McCormacks as a wood supplier.- Is this
a good way to go since I will not be able to actually go to their facility
ans select the wood?
Had the opportunity a few weeks ago to spend time with Randy Bush and Dan H
elsper at the Beech River fly-in.- Thanks, gentlemen, for the- words of
encouragement.
I look forward to the building experience and would like to hear from 'horz
pool' regarding- his wider center section.-
Grant Ziebell
Savannah, TN
le, List Admin.
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Hey Grant
Are you a member of the Brodhead Pietenpol Assn.? If so go to Page 15,
there is an ad for wood from Bill Rewey, it looks like a great deal at $750
for Brodhead Pietenpol assnnough wood to build a Piet. Bills ph# is
608-833-5839.
He lives near Madison, Wi.
If you arent a member you should join, send a $20 check to Brodhead
Pietenpol Assn
Box 3501
Oshkosh, Wi. 54903
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "G" <grantz5906@aol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 5:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: New to Pietenpol list
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: New to Pietenpol list
From: G <grantz5906@aol.com>
CC:
Hello, all,
I am Grant Ziebell and live in Savannah, TN. I had been considering
building a Pietenpol for a while and have now taken the plunge. Plans are
in hand, as is the Corvair conversion manual.
I have been studying the plans and reviewing the archive contents of this
invaluable list. Much to learn before the first sawdust flies.
Is it worthwhile to purchase the "kits" from Aircraft Spruce or just develop
my own wood needs list?
I also read in the archives about McCormacks as a wood supplier. Is this a
good way to go since I will not be able to actually go to their facility ans
select the wood?
Had the opportunity a few weeks ago to spend time with Randy Bush and Dan
Helsper at the Beech River fly-in. Thanks, gentlemen, for the words of
encouragement.
I look forward to the building experience and would like to hear from
'horzpool' regarding his wider center section.
Grant Ziebell
Savannah, TN
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Welcome, Grant!! I cannot comment on buying wood kits, as I purchased all mine
(Poplar) from a local wood supplier. I can say, though, that if you spent time
with Randy and Dan and still want to be involved in the Pietenpol community you
will do great! ;-)
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of G
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: New to Pietenpol list
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: New to Pietenpol list
From: G <grantz5906@aol.com>
CC:
Hello, all,
I am Grant Ziebell and live in Savannah, TN. I had been considering building a
Pietenpol for a while and have now taken the plunge. Plans are in hand, as
is the Corvair conversion manual.
I have been studying the plans and reviewing the archive contents of this invaluable
list. Much to learn before the first sawdust flies.
Is it worthwhile to purchase the "kits" from Aircraft Spruce or just develop my
own wood needs list?
I also read in the archives about McCormacks as a wood supplier. Is this a good
way to go since I will not be able to actually go to their facility ans select
the wood?
Had the opportunity a few weeks ago to spend time with Randy Bush and Dan Helsper
at the Beech River fly-in. Thanks, gentlemen, for the words of encouragement.
I look forward to the building experience and would like to hear from 'horzpool'
regarding his wider center section.
Grant Ziebell
Savannah, TN
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I smell a rat! Dan - make him show the pictures!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
After seeing Douwe's and Gary's airplanes, I am ashamed to show photos . . .
.
I am painting the wing as we speak. Just in case anyone was wondering, it
takes 1 1/2 gallons of dope to make a complete wet cross coat on a 30 ft one
piece wing (2X completely around wing, one side to side, one up and down).
Just finished my 5th cross coat . . . . Wet sand tomorrow, silver on sunday
_____
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
From: helspersew@aol.com
Per the advice of K. Perkins I run pure water. Its in a heated hangar for
the winter so I don't have to worry. As far as The Fish Scale goes, Gene
send me your address off-list when you are ready. I expect to receive it
back from Jeff Faith (along with some of his home-brewed beer) any day now
:O)
BTW how 'bout some photos? You're copying everything from others anyway, so
there is no reason for secrecy.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 5:04 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
Put me in line for the scale . . . I am ready to run the engine. Also, to
those of you running Model As, are you using pure water or some type of
antifreeze?? It is starting to freeze here, so I am hesitant to fill it to
run just to have to drain.
Gene
_____
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
From: helspersew@aol.com
No, other than it is a "controlled" fish scale, and the same one used by (so
far) three of us. So it conveys a certain amount of reliable information
when it comes to a thrust measurement as compared to other Piets. :O)
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Abreu <andre_abreu_2000@yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
Is there something special about this particular scale?
Thanks
Andy Abreu
Toledo Ohio
Pietenpol A65
N6186L
--- On Fri, 10/12/12, helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
From: helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
Oscar,
Let me know when you are ready. I'll have it here to send you for your test.
I am only the caretaker of the Official- Piet- List- Industrial- Fish Scale.
It now belongs to the ages!! This is an incentive to carve another prop. I
am the low man on the totem pole with my lousy 260 lbs!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 11, 2012 11:14 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
How does one go about getting on the circulation list for the Official Fish
Scales? It seems that the Scales have so far been limited to use by prop
carvers, but I would be interested in knowing how Scout fares with the A75
and wood prop. I also have a Prince prop for it and would be interested in
a "fish head to fish head" comparison between the two if I had the scales
available and could run one and then the other.
I will not have Scout up here and ready for testing until November, but
would be happy to pay shipping over and back if the Official Scales are
available to non-carvers.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
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Hi again Grant
Sorry , I didnt read your whole sending off the last post. The 2" wider
fuse I belive is some what un-necessary. I know some will disagree with
that so sit in one first and see how you feel after that.
Best luck to you.
Dick N.
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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 5:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: New to Pietenpol list
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Subject: New to Pietenpol list
From: G <grantz5906@aol.com>
CC:
Hello, all,
I am Grant Ziebell and live in Savannah, TN. I had been considering
building a Pietenpol for a while and have now taken the plunge. Plans are
in hand, as is the Corvair conversion manual.
I have been studying the plans and reviewing the archive contents of this
invaluable list. Much to learn before the first sawdust flies.
Is it worthwhile to purchase the "kits" from Aircraft Spruce or just develop
my own wood needs list?
I also read in the archives about McCormacks as a wood supplier. Is this a
good way to go since I will not be able to actually go to their facility ans
select the wood?
Had the opportunity a few weeks ago to spend time with Randy Bush and Dan
Helsper at the Beech River fly-in. Thanks, gentlemen, for the words of
encouragement.
I look forward to the building experience and would like to hear from
'horzpool' regarding his wider center section.
Grant Ziebell
Savannah, TN
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Yeah, his airplane is outstanding old-school. I've seen pics.
do not archive
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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Well after much hesitation,trying to plan ahead,cutting and fitting I have both
sides of a steel fuselage hanging on the wall. I added a door on the left side
and 6 inches to the front. You guys bear with me I am trying to get a good work
schedule going.
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Building steel fuselage aircamper.
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| Subject: | Re: make sure your tailwheel steering springs are secure.... |
In 1996 a good friend and I flew his Arctic Tern to Oshkosh When I was tying the
tail down I found the tail spring at top of the hole about to come loose. I
almost fainted,Kip had just got finished rebuilding the plane from a so called
friends bad landing. I had landed the plane at Oshkosh and Kip would have blown
a gasket if I had ground looped and bent the plane.[/b]
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In 1996 a good friend and I flew his Arctic Tern to Oshkosh When I was tying the
tail down I found the tail spring at top of the hole about to come loose. I
almost fainted,Kip had just got finished rebuilding the plane from a so called
friends bad landing. I had landed the plane at Oshkosh and Kip would have blown
a gasket if I had ground looped and bent the plane.[/b]
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