Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 10/17/12


Total Messages Posted: 22



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     1. 01:34 AM - Re: I flew Re-PIET!!! (Jack)
     2. 03:18 AM - Re: I flew Re-PIET!!! (Robert Bush)
     3. 03:32 AM - Re: I flew Re-PIET!!! (Amsafetyc)
     4. 04:55 AM - Re: I flew Re-PIET!!! (Jack Phillips)
     5. 05:03 AM - Re: I flew Re-PIET!!! (helspersew@aol.com)
     6. 06:12 AM - Re: I flew Re-PIET!!! (shad bell)
     7. 06:17 AM - Re: I flew Re-PIET!!! (Michael Perez)
     8. 06:19 AM - Re: I flew Re-PIET!!!  (Donald Lane)
     9. 06:19 AM - Re: I flew Re-PIET!!! (AircamperN11MS)
    10. 06:23 AM - Douwe flies Re-Piet for the first time! (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
    11. 06:23 AM - Re: I flew Re-PIET!!! (TOM STINEMETZE)
    12. 07:07 AM - Re: First Flight in Re-Piet (woodflier@aol.com)
    13. 07:58 AM - Re: I flew Re-PIET!!! (Don Emch)
    14. 08:03 AM - Re: Douwe flies Re-Piet for the first time! (Jerry Dotson)
    15. 09:06 AM - I flew Re-PIET!!! (santiago morete)
    16. 01:45 PM - Re: Re: nose fuel tank supports (Ray Krause)
    17. 02:16 PM - Re: I flew Re-PIET!!! (bender)
    18. 04:58 PM - Ray's A-65 Engine Mount Question (Michael Perez)
    19. 05:56 PM - Re: Ray's A-65 Engine Mount Question (Ryan M)
    20. 06:13 PM - Re: reducing the wingspan (nightmare)
    21. 06:22 PM - Re: Re: reducing the wingspan (gboothe5@comcast.net)
    22. 07:09 PM - Re: I flew Re-PIET!!! (Greg Bacon)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:34:39 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: I flew Re-PIET!!!
    Douwe, what fantastic news, congratulations! Jack Textor Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 9:35 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: I flew Re-PIET!!! Well after ten years of work and a lifetime of daydreams, I flew "Re-PIET" today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Flew from the asphalt runway near my house to a grass paradise an hour away where she'll stay until I'm ready for pavement. The flight could NOT have been better in any possible way. Engine temps were good, (C-90 with Cloud Car prop) and she climbed very strongly (66 degree day with 12 gallons and 160 lb Douwe), about like the 85 horse Cub I've been practicing in with two people aboard, but I didn't have a VSI so I'm not sure. GPS said cruise was 75, but there was a bit of a tailwind, so it was probably more like 70. Flew totally hands off, seriously! The almost 1" stab offset is perfect, didn't need to touch the rudder to keep her straight and the servo elevator trim worked beautifully, just push the switch to get whatever trim you want. Was very pleased with that. Practiced some stalls at about 1,000rpm like landing and almost couldn't get her to break, she just mushed along. Power off was straight ahead and clean. Smoke system worked great, though I'll have to add some longer "downtubes" off my long exhaust to keep unburnt oil off the tail. Controls were super light and pleasant in all regards. Much nicer than the cub I've been flying. Landing was a non-event, except that the sun was directly in my eyes as it was evening and the refraction through the two plexi windscreens precluded ANY forward vis, plus the runway slants east so it was in the dark and I could NOT see the runway. Had to go around once, then really had to feel my way down, but it ended very nicely and she just settled down and tracked very straight. I didn't think I'd need goggles. I was wrong, I need them unless I sit right up behind the windscreen. Thanks all for your help, advice and encouragement through the years. Too many to name, but I am hugely indebted to you all. Just a lovely, lovely airplane in all regards... Keep building gents, IT'S WORTH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Douwe


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    Time: 03:18:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: I flew Re-PIET!!!
    From: Robert Bush <rbush96589@aol.com>
    Congratulations Douwe. Looking forward to seeing you and re piet at Brodhead next year. Randy Bush NX294RB Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2012, at 9:35 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote: > Well after ten years of work and a lifetime of daydreams, I flew "Re-PIET" > today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Flew from the asphalt runway near my house to a grass paradise an hour away > where she'll stay until I'm ready for pavement. > > The flight could NOT have been better in any possible way. Engine temps > were good, (C-90 with Cloud Car prop) and she climbed very strongly (66 > degree day with 12 gallons and 160 lb Douwe), about like the 85 horse Cub > I've been practicing in with two people aboard, but I didn't have a VSI so > I'm not sure. > > GPS said cruise was 75, but there was a bit of a tailwind, so it was > probably more like 70. > > Flew totally hands off, seriously! The almost 1" stab offset is perfect, > didn't need to touch the rudder to keep her straight and the servo elevator > trim worked beautifully, just push the switch to get whatever trim you want. > Was very pleased with that. > > Practiced some stalls at about 1,000rpm like landing and almost couldn't get > her to break, she just mushed along. Power off was straight ahead and > clean. > > Smoke system worked great, though I'll have to add some longer "downtubes" > off my long exhaust to keep unburnt oil off the tail. > > Controls were super light and pleasant in all regards. Much nicer than the > cub I've been flying. > > Landing was a non-event, except that the sun was directly in my eyes as it > was evening and the refraction through the two plexi windscreens precluded > ANY forward vis, plus the runway slants east so it was in the dark and I > could NOT see the runway. Had to go around once, then really had to feel my > way down, but it ended very nicely and she just settled down and tracked > very straight. > > I didn't think I'd need goggles. I was wrong, I need them unless I sit > right up behind the windscreen. > > Thanks all for your help, advice and encouragement through the years. Too > many to name, but I am hugely indebted to you all. > > Just a lovely, lovely airplane in all regards... > > Keep building gents, IT'S WORTH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Douwe > <Douwe's first flight.JPG> > <Douwe's first landing.JPG>


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    Time: 03:32:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: I flew Re-PIET!!!
    From: Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    Very nice congratulations and safe flying. John Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2012, at 10:35 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote: > Well after ten years of work and a lifetime of daydreams, I flew "Re-PIET" > today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Flew from the asphalt runway near my house to a grass paradise an hour away > where she'll stay until I'm ready for pavement. > > The flight could NOT have been better in any possible way. Engine temps > were good, (C-90 with Cloud Car prop) and she climbed very strongly (66 > degree day with 12 gallons and 160 lb Douwe), about like the 85 horse Cub > I've been practicing in with two people aboard, but I didn't have a VSI so > I'm not sure. > > GPS said cruise was 75, but there was a bit of a tailwind, so it was > probably more like 70. > > Flew totally hands off, seriously! The almost 1" stab offset is perfect, > didn't need to touch the rudder to keep her straight and the servo elevator > trim worked beautifully, just push the switch to get whatever trim you want. > Was very pleased with that. > > Practiced some stalls at about 1,000rpm like landing and almost couldn't get > her to break, she just mushed along. Power off was straight ahead and > clean. > > Smoke system worked great, though I'll have to add some longer "downtubes" > off my long exhaust to keep unburnt oil off the tail. > > Controls were super light and pleasant in all regards. Much nicer than the > cub I've been flying. > > Landing was a non-event, except that the sun was directly in my eyes as it > was evening and the refraction through the two plexi windscreens precluded > ANY forward vis, plus the runway slants east so it was in the dark and I > could NOT see the runway. Had to go around once, then really had to feel my > way down, but it ended very nicely and she just settled down and tracked > very straight. > > I didn't think I'd need goggles. I was wrong, I need them unless I sit > right up behind the windscreen. > > Thanks all for your help, advice and encouragement through the years. Too > many to name, but I am hugely indebted to you all. > > Just a lovely, lovely airplane in all regards... > > Keep building gents, IT'S WORTH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Douwe > <Douwe's first flight.JPG> > <Douwe's first landing.JPG>


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    Time: 04:55:30 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: I flew Re-PIET!!!
    Congratulations, Douwe! And so another of next year's crop of new Pietenpols for Brodhead is ready (we've got to somehow convince Gary Boothe to fly his new creation from Cool to Very Cool). Next could be Jeff Bender or Gene Rambo. With all the tribulations you went through, I know it was worth it to have the feeling of making your first flight in an aircraft you created yourself. There is just no feeling like it. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:35 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: I flew Re-PIET!!! Well after ten years of work and a lifetime of daydreams, I flew "Re-PIET" today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Flew from the asphalt runway near my house to a grass paradise an hour away where she'll stay until I'm ready for pavement. The flight could NOT have been better in any possible way. Engine temps were good, (C-90 with Cloud Car prop) and she climbed very strongly (66 degree day with 12 gallons and 160 lb Douwe), about like the 85 horse Cub I've been practicing in with two people aboard, but I didn't have a VSI so I'm not sure. GPS said cruise was 75, but there was a bit of a tailwind, so it was probably more like 70. Flew totally hands off, seriously! The almost 1" stab offset is perfect, didn't need to touch the rudder to keep her straight and the servo elevator trim worked beautifully, just push the switch to get whatever trim you want. Was very pleased with that. Practiced some stalls at about 1,000rpm like landing and almost couldn't get her to break, she just mushed along. Power off was straight ahead and clean. Smoke system worked great, though I'll have to add some longer "downtubes" off my long exhaust to keep unburnt oil off the tail. Controls were super light and pleasant in all regards. Much nicer than the cub I've been flying. Landing was a non-event, except that the sun was directly in my eyes as it was evening and the refraction through the two plexi windscreens precluded ANY forward vis, plus the runway slants east so it was in the dark and I could NOT see the runway. Had to go around once, then really had to feel my way down, but it ended very nicely and she just settled down and tracked very straight. I didn't think I'd need goggles. I was wrong, I need them unless I sit right up behind the windscreen. Thanks all for your help, advice and encouragement through the years. Too many to name, but I am hugely indebted to you all. Just a lovely, lovely airplane in all regards... Keep building gents, IT'S WORTH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Douwe


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    Time: 05:03:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: I flew Re-PIET!!!
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Douwe, Congratulations man!! It's been a long hard road. A truly great example of perseverance! Beautiful work of art!! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN


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    Time: 06:12:53 AM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: I flew Re-PIET!!!
    Congradulations!- It is truley a work of art.- If it flies as good as i t looks you have one heck of a gem there. - Shad --- On Wed, 10/17/12, helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> wrote: From: helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I flew Re-PIET!!! Douwe, - Congratulations man!! It's been a long hard road. A truly great example of perseverance! Beautiful work of art!! - Dan Helsper Puryear, TN


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    Time: 06:17:32 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: I flew Re-PIET!!!
    Glad to hear it all went well. I hope to report as good flight characteristics when I get mine flown. It sounds like you have very little, if any, tweaking to do. Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 06:19:01 AM PST US
    From: "Donald Lane" <dslane@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: I flew Re-PIET!!!
    Douwe, Super! Congratulations. Don Lane


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    Time: 06:19:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: I flew Re-PIET!!!
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Douwe, What a beautiful flying machine. You have out done us all. Now it is time to enjoy the wind in your face. Nothing more enjoyable then seeing the sun rise or set from the seat of your own Piet. What a great reward. Happy landings, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385552#385552


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    Time: 06:23:04 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Douwe flies Re-Piet for the first time!
    I don't think I've ever read a first flight story that has had such a rich history of the builder staying with the program thru thick and thin with such a storybook ending of accomplishing your goal Douwe. You meet people at Brodhead who are camped and have photos of their first few wing ribs, you see them yearly and they give progress reports. 10 years later you hear a story like yours and it just is such a cause for celebration and satisfaction even for everyone--new builders and even people whose 1st flight was years and years ago. You did it right Douwe just like Gary Boothe in taking your time, getting it right, and especially in taking your time in getting ready by taking a good amount of training in tailwheel airplanes like the Cub you flew before had which helped make your 1st flight a non-event...just the way we like to hear about it. A total standing ovation from this infidel in Ohio. Mike C.


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    Time: 06:23:40 AM PST US
    From: "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
    Subject: Re: I flew Re-PIET!!!
    And let me add a resounding DOOOOWEEEEE! to the list of congratulations that have been recorded. You 'da MAN!, man. I look at your work of art and then look at my unfinished project just sitting there looking forlorn and wonder if it will ever know that kind of joy. It takes moments of inspiration like this to get me kick started sometimes. Just one question for you though. How did you route the electric wiring from your RAC trim servo into the fuselage? Did you pass from the elevator into the horizontal stab through the hinge line and then from the stab down into the fuse? If so, is there a way to disassemble the elevator from the stab without having to cut the wires and re-solder later? Tom Stinemetze N328Xray (wiring as we speak)


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    Time: 07:07:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Flight in Re-Piet
    From: woodflier@aol.com
    Douwe, I know the words can't really capture what you were feeling, but I g ot a pretty good idea. Congratulations on this milestone. I sure hope you e njoy flying it as much as I have mine, and I can't wait to see Re-Piet at B rodhead next year. Hope I can get a ride. Matt Paxton


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    Time: 07:58:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: I flew Re-PIET!!!
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    That's awesome Douwe! You deserve to be Re-Excited or Re-Deserving about your first flight! There's no other feeling like it! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385563#385563


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    Time: 08:03:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Douwe flies Re-Piet for the first time!
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    What the infidel in Ohio said I sure would like to hear those lake pipes. Mama used to say anything worth having is worth waiting for. You hung in there and now reap the rewards. -------- Jerry Dotson First flight June 16,2012 Started building July, 2009 Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385564#385564


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    Time: 09:06:42 AM PST US
    From: santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar>
    Subject: I flew Re-PIET!!!
    Hi Douwe, congratulations! Fantastic airplane!=0ASaludos=0A=0ASantiago


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    Time: 01:45:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: nose fuel tank supports
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Oscar, I have been meaning to ask you about your A 65 motor mount. Are you using it on the 75(85) Engine,was it destroyed? Did you make a new mount and did you build the jig for a new mount? I have to build a mount for my A-65 for the Skyscout and could use some help. I used the Piet hardware patterns and think the front of my Skyscout is identicle to the Piet. So.... I was hoping you might help me a little. Ray Krause Ps. Will you be coming up I-5 on the way to Oregon? Need a place to stay, want a ride in the Waiex? Sent from my iPad On Oct 16, 2012, at 8:52 PM, "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote: > > And glean what you may from the photos of the tank and supports on "Scout", here: > > http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/fueltank.html > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; > A75 power > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385533#385533 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:16:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: I flew Re-PIET!!!
    From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
    That's awesome ! way to go Douwe.... its really cool how many new piets are coming along Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385582#385582


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    Time: 04:58:17 PM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Ray's A-65 Engine Mount Question
    Ray, forgive me for intruding on your question to Oscar, but I may be able to share some ideas on building an A-65 engine mount.- Attached are pictu res of how I made mine.- The aluminum angle represent the fuselage bracke ts and the round washers on the ends of the threaded rod represent the engi ne mounting ears on the engine.- Ideally, you lay out the locations for a ll of these brackets/rods on the wood base and then install them. Since I m anged to make my wood base too small, I had to bend two of the rods to get the dimensions correct. Had the wood been the right size, all rods would ha ve been straight. - Anyhoo, if interested feel free to contact me as I have a few more pictures and all the details to build this jig and do the welding.- This jig make s it a snap to dial in down and right thrust to just about anything you wis h prior to welding. Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 05:56:46 PM PST US
    From: Ryan M <aircamperace@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Ray's A-65 Engine Mount Question
    Nice fit up Michael. What's your secret?=0A=0ARyan Michals=0A=0A___________ _____________________=0A From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>=0AT o: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:57 P M=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Ray's A-65 Engine Mount Question=0A =0A=0ARay, forgive me for intruding on your question to Oscar, but I may be able to s hare some ideas on building an A-65 engine mount.- Attached are pictures of how I made mine.- The aluminum angle represent the fuselage brackets a nd the round washers on the ends of the threaded rod represent the engine m ounting ears on the engine.- Ideally, you lay out the locations for all o f these brackets/rods on the wood base and then install them. Since I mange d to make my wood base too small, I had to bend two of the rods to get the dimensions correct. Had the wood been the right size, all rods would have b een straight.=0A-=0AAnyhoo, if interested feel free to contact me as I ha ve a few more pictures and all the details to build this jig and do the wel ding.- This jig makes it a snap to dial in down and right thrust to just about anything you wish prior to welding. =0A=0AMichael Perez=0APietenpol H INT Videos=0AKaretaker Aero=0Awww.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 06:13:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: reducing the wingspan
    From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
    welcome; i believe piete lowell has a clipped wing. but he is using a Riblett wing. a few of us are. im using the riblett ga 613.5 . most other riblett builders seem to be using the ga 612. the purists are going to band me for saying this, but..... if you weigh 250 lbs and want to carry passengers regularly, you may want to consider a higher lift wing like the riblett. best of luck. great group here. Paul -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385596#385596


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    Time: 06:22:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: reducing the wingspan
    From: gboothe5@comcast.net
    I move that Paul be banned! ;-) Gary NX308MB ------Original Message------ From: nightmare Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: reducing the wingspan Sent: Oct 17, 2012 6:13 PM welcome; i believe piete lowell has a clipped wing. but he is using a Riblett wing. a few of us are. im using the riblett ga 613.5 . most other riblett builders seem to be using the ga 612. the purists are going to band me for saying this, but..... if you weigh 250 lbs and want to carry passengers regularly, you may want to consider a higher lift wing like the riblett. best of luck. great group here. Paul -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385596#385596 Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry


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    Time: 07:09:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: I flew Re-PIET!!!
    From: Greg Bacon <gbacon67@gmail.com>
    Congrats Douwe!!! Way to persevere. Re-Piet is amazing. I'm really looking forward to seeing her at Brodhead. Blue skies! Greg Bacon On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net > wrote: > Well after ten years of work and a lifetime of daydreams, I flew "Re-PIET" > today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Flew from the asphalt runway near my house to a grass paradise an hour away > where she'll stay until I'm ready for pavement. > > The flight could NOT have been better in any possible way. Engine temps > were good, (C-90 with Cloud Car prop) and she climbed very strongly (66 > degree day with 12 gallons and 160 lb Douwe), about like the 85 horse Cub > I've been practicing in with two people aboard, but I didn't have a VSI so > I'm not sure. > > GPS said cruise was 75, but there was a bit of a tailwind, so it was > probably more like 70. > > Flew totally hands off, seriously! The almost 1" stab offset is perfect, > didn't need to touch the rudder to keep her straight and the servo elevator > trim worked beautifully, just push the switch to get whatever trim you > want. > Was very pleased with that. > > Practiced some stalls at about 1,000rpm like landing and almost couldn't > get > her to break, she just mushed along. Power off was straight ahead and > clean. > > Smoke system worked great, though I'll have to add some longer "downtubes" > off my long exhaust to keep unburnt oil off the tail. > > Controls were super light and pleasant in all regards. Much nicer than the > cub I've been flying. > > Landing was a non-event, except that the sun was directly in my eyes as it > was evening and the refraction through the two plexi windscreens precluded > ANY forward vis, plus the runway slants east so it was in the dark and I > could NOT see the runway. Had to go around once, then really had to feel > my > way down, but it ended very nicely and she just settled down and tracked > very straight. > > I didn't think I'd need goggles. I was wrong, I need them unless I sit > right up behind the windscreen. > > Thanks all for your help, advice and encouragement through the years. Too > many to name, but I am hugely indebted to you all. > > Just a lovely, lovely airplane in all regards... > > Keep building gents, IT'S WORTH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Douwe > -- Greg Bacon




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