---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/20/12: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:44 AM - Re: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers (jarheadpilot82) 2. 06:51 AM - Re: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers (C N Campbell) 3. 10:16 AM - Re: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers (jarheadpilot82) 4. 11:35 AM - Re: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers (airlion) 5. 11:48 AM - Re: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers (jarheadpilot82) 6. 01:20 PM - Re: Re: reducing the wingspan - Big Piet update (Dick N) 7. 02:04 PM - Re: Re: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers (airlion) 8. 03:40 PM - Re: reducing the wingspan - Big Piet update (aerocarjake) 9. 07:19 PM - Went flying today... (Mark Roberts) 10. 07:55 PM - Re: Went flying today... (gboothe5@comcast.net) 11. 08:33 PM - Re: Went flying today... (Michael Groah) 12. 09:09 PM - Re: Went flying today... (Ray Krause) 13. 09:37 PM - Re: Went flying today... (Mark Roberts) 14. 09:48 PM - Re: Went flying today... (gboothe5@comcast.net) 15. 10:40 PM - Re: Re: Went flying today... (Michael Groah) 16. 10:44 PM - Re: Went flying today... (Michael Groah) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:44:20 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers From: "jarheadpilot82" I got the information, so thanks to all who looked at the post. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385680#385680 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:21 AM PST US From: "C N Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers Hey. I'm not about to copy any of Finch's book without his permission. But the book does have some info on removing the engine from a car. I would suggest you buy Finch's "how to keep your Corvair alive" -- there is other information in it that you will need. C ----- Original Message ----- From: "jarheadpilot82" Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:27 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers > > > I know that this post is not really specific to Pietenpol, but I thought > that this was a good place to ask for help. So all of you A-65 pilots, > Rotec pilots, )-200 pilots, etc. just roll on by as this will probably > not interest you- > > I am going to a junkyard tomorrow that says they have 8 or 10 corvairs > "off in the weeds". I have William Wynne's Manual as well as his > disassembly dvd, but they do not really address the how to of pulling an > engine from a corvair. I wrote William Wynne and he suggested that I have > someone fax or email me a copy of the 2 pages from Finch's book, the 2 > pages that deal with dropping the engine from a car. Can anyone help? > > Terry > > jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com > > P.S. Thanks for any help in advance. If it is easier to fax, contact me > off-line and I will get my fax number to you. > > -------- > Semper Fi, > > Terry Hand > Athens, GA > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385678#385678 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:16:23 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers From: "jarheadpilot82" I have the book on order and it has not arrived. Seeing 2 pages before I go look at the engine I thought would be a help. I have also ordered the junkyard primer, I think it is called. I already have the green shop manual. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385686#385686 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:35:31 AM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers JUST START UNSCREWING ALL THE NUTS AND BOLTS YOU SEE AND SAVE THEM BUT YOU WILL PROBABLY DISCARD THEM ANYWAY. ALL THE IMPORTANT STUFF YOU WILL BE GETTING FROM WILLIAM. JUST MY 2cents worth. Gardiner. GO TO THE COLLEGE 24 to answer all your questions ----- Original Message ---- From: C N Campbell Sent: Sat, October 20, 2012 9:51:48 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers Hey. I'm not about to copy any of Finch's book without his permission. But the book does have some info on removing the engine from a car. I would suggest you buy Finch's "how to keep your Corvair alive" -- there is other information in it that you will need. C ----- Original Message ----- From: "jarheadpilot82" Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:27 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers > > > I know that this post is not really specific to Pietenpol, but I thought that >this was a good place to ask for help. So all of you A-65 pilots, Rotec pilots, >)-200 pilots, etc. just roll on by as this will probably not interest you- > > I am going to a junkyard tomorrow that says they have 8 or 10 corvairs "off in >the weeds". I have William Wynne's Manual as well as his disassembly dvd, but >they do not really address the how to of pulling an engine from a corvair. I >wrote William Wynne and he suggested that I have someone fax or email me a copy >of the 2 pages from Finch's book, the 2 pages that deal with dropping the engine >from a car. Can anyone help? > > Terry > > jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com > > P.S. Thanks for any help in advance. If it is easier to fax, contact me >off-line and I will get my fax number to you. > > -------- > Semper Fi, > > Terry Hand > Athens, GA > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385678#385678 > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers From: "jarheadpilot82" Gardiner, I am planning on being at CC#24. I hope to take one of these engines with me. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385689#385689 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:20:42 PM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: reducing the wingspan - Big Piet update Hi Greg I guess I was refering to both, getting into the cockpit is easier and the overall performance has been better too. I cant tell how much because I now have 110 hp vs 65 hp in the past. I do know that I tested this plane to 1250 lbs groos and it flew just fine. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Bacon To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:05 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: reducing the wingspan - Big Piet update Dick, What do you mean "made quite a bit of difference"? Are you referring to getting in and out of cockpit, or flight performance? I made Mtn Piet center section 36 inches instead of 29. This was based on Bill Rewey's recommendation. I love the look of the trailing edge cut-out. Although it was quite a woodworking challenge, it was worth the effort. Greg On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Dick N wrote: Hi Barry I did the same thing on my last Piet, I belive my center section is now 38" wide. It made quite a bit of difference. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Davis" To: Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 8:01 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: reducing the wingspan - Big Piet update A friend in Florida suggested that we: 1- add one rib bay per wing 2- Add 4" to stab 3- Add 4" to tail height. He has built several airplanes and Piets. We considered all his mod suggestions while we were drawing plans for the Big Piets. After some research, we ended up not doing any of the mods. We did in fact make the center section a lot wider. Bruce's plane (the blue and white one in the Piet-n-pile at Sun n Fun's Tornado Days) is now flying with Piper Colt wings. We modified the wings by taking off the rounded tips, adding a few ribs to the ends and making flat wingtips to look like a Piet wing. We are still tweaking the horiz incidence, washout and other stuff. First indications are that it will be faster than the other Big Piets. Bruce did put in Piper's recommended amount of dihedral, and it looks different. Frank's Big Piet (red and silver that ended up on top of the Piet n Pile) has been flying for some time now and everything is fine. Gardiner's Pietenpol (bottom of the pile) is just a few weeks away from rebirth. We are flying down to his place next week and go over the plane with a fine toothed comb. Barry Davis -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nightmare Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 8:40 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: reducing the wingspan --> if i get banned, im going on wikepedia and changing the piet specs to indicate it was designed with a riblett wing. hah -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385651#385651 st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Greg Bacon ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:04:07 PM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers Terry, I am ready to start up an do some taxi test. That will be next week an if everything goes well I will fly it to CC24. Cheers, Gardiner ----- Original Message ---- From: jarheadpilot82 Sent: Sat, October 20, 2012 2:49:27 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Corvair Question for Corvair drivers Gardiner, I am planning on being at CC#24. I hope to take one of these engines with me. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385689#385689 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:40:44 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: reducing the wingspan - Big Piet update From: "aerocarjake" Thanks for all these posts.... I plan to make my center section wider so I can carry more fuel in a enter-section tank, but it sounds like the slightly longer wingspan would not hurt either. (I had considered trimming a bay from each wing to keep the wingspan more stock.....?!?!). Working on the walking beam in the shop today after I drive the "first teacher in space" to an event at the Museum of Flight.... tough duty... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385705#385705 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:43 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Went flying today... From: "Mark Roberts" A friend of mine has the dealership rights to California for the Sport Cruiser LSA and asked me to help him sell some. I am in the midst of the 4th lay off in 7 years, so I figured what the heck?! We went flying today so I could experience the plane, and after not being behind the controls for 4 years, it sure felt great. I wish I was further along on my Piet, as it is hard to be stressed and worried at 4500 feet looking down on God's green earth! So glad to hear Douwe is back in the air with his beautiful airplane! The Sport Cruiser is one very nice plane, and I hope to get more time in one as time goes on. But you can't get bugs in your teeth with that big canopy! Need some fresh air for that... :) Not a substitute for an open cockpit! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385709#385709 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:37 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Went flying today... From: gboothe5@comcast.net Way to go, Mark!! ------Original Message------ From: Mark Roberts Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Went flying today... Sent: Oct 20, 2012 7:19 PM A friend of mine has the dealership rights to California for the Sport Cruiser LSA and asked me to help him sell some. I am in the midst of the 4th lay off in 7 years, so I figured what the heck?! We went flying today so I could experience the plane, and after not being behind the controls for 4 years, it sure felt great. I wish I was further along on my Piet, as it is hard to be stressed and worried at 4500 feet looking down on God's green earth! So glad to hear Douwe is back in the air with his beautiful airplane! The Sport Cruiser is one very nice plane, and I hope to get more time in one as time goes on. But you can't get bugs in your teeth with that big canopy! Need some fresh air for that... :) Not a substitute for an open cockpit! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385709#385709 Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:33:37 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Went flying today... From: Michael Groah That's awesome mark. !!! It's a good day when you get to go flying. Gary, did you fly that new prop today? Mike Groah 13 flight hours on my Piet so far On Oct 20, 2012, at 7:55 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote: > > Way to go, Mark!! > ------Original Message------ > From: Mark Roberts > Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Went flying today... > Sent: Oct 20, 2012 7:19 PM > > > A friend of mine has the dealership rights to California for the Sport Cruiser LSA and asked me to help him sell some. I am in the midst of the 4th lay off in 7 years, so I figured what the heck?! > > We went flying today so I could experience the plane, and after not being behind the controls for 4 years, it sure felt great. I wish I was further along on my Piet, as it is hard to be stressed and worried at 4500 feet looking down on God's green earth! > > So glad to hear Douwe is back in the air with his beautiful airplane! The Sport Cruiser is one very nice plane, and I hope to get more time in one as time goes on. > > But you can't get bugs in your teeth with that big canopy! Need some fresh air for that... :) Not a substitute for an open cockpit! > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385709#385709 > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:53 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Went flying today... From: Ray Krause You have a new prop already? Did you carve it? You are a fast guy. Ray Krause Sent from my iPad On Oct 20, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Michael Groah wrote: > > That's awesome mark. !!! It's a good day when you get to go flying. > > Gary, did you fly that new prop today? > > Mike Groah > 13 flight hours on my Piet so far > > > > > On Oct 20, 2012, at 7:55 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote: > >> >> Way to go, Mark!! >> ------Original Message------ >> From: Mark Roberts >> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Went flying today... >> Sent: Oct 20, 2012 7:19 PM >> >> >> A friend of mine has the dealership rights to California for the Sport Cruiser LSA and asked me to help him sell some. I am in the midst of the 4th lay off in 7 years, so I figured what the heck?! >> >> We went flying today so I could experience the plane, and after not being behind the controls for 4 years, it sure felt great. I wish I was further along on my Piet, as it is hard to be stressed and worried at 4500 feet looking down on God's green earth! >> >> So glad to hear Douwe is back in the air with his beautiful airplane! The Sport Cruiser is one very nice plane, and I hope to get more time in one as time goes on. >> >> But you can't get bugs in your teeth with that big canopy! Need some fresh air for that... :) Not a substitute for an open cockpit! >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385709#385709 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:37:56 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Went flying today... From: "Mark Roberts" Hey Mike! We chatted about your plane today at the Airport. I told my friend I might be able to talk you into flying it up to Chandler one day after your allowed out of your "air cage" of distance from Porterville :D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385714#385714 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:48:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Went flying today... From: gboothe5@comcast.net I did! Short flight...if the wind stays down, I'll fly again on Sunday. Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Michael Groah Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com That's awesome mark. !!! It's a good day when you get to go flying. Gary, did you fly that new prop today? Mike Groah 13 flight hours on my Piet so far On Oct 20, 2012, at 7:55 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote: > > Way to go, Mark!! > ------Original Message------ > From: Mark Roberts > Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Went flying today... > Sent: Oct 20, 2012 7:19 PM > > > A friend of mine has the dealership rights to California for the Sport Cruiser LSA and asked me to help him sell some. I am in the midst of the 4th lay off in 7 years, so I figured what the heck?! > > We went flying today so I could experience the plane, and after not being behind the controls for 4 years, it sure felt great. I wish I was further along on my Piet, as it is hard to be stressed and worried at 4500 feet looking down on God's green earth! > > So glad to hear Douwe is back in the air with his beautiful airplane! The Sport Cruiser is one very nice plane, and I hope to get more time in one as time goes on. > > But you can't get bugs in your teeth with that big canopy! Need some fresh air for that... :) Not a substitute for an open cockpit! > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385709#385709 > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:40:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Went flying today... From: Michael Groah I'm looking forward to flying it up there. It's now based at mefford field (ktlr) in Tulare. Mike Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2012, at 9:37 PM, "Mark Roberts" wrote: > > Hey Mike! We chatted about your plane today at the Airport. I told my friend I might be able to talk you into flying it up to Chandler one day after your allowed out of your "air cage" of distance from Porterville :D > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385714#385714 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:44:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Went flying today... From: Michael Groah Awesome Gary. I hope you get to go up again tomorrow. If the weather is good and this cold I have will let up I'll fly tomorrow too. Mike Groah Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2012, at 9:47 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote: > > I did! Short flight...if the wind stays down, I'll fly again on Sunday. > Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Groah > Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:33:06 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > That's awesome mark. !!! It's a good day when you get to go flying. > > Gary, did you fly that new prop today? > > Mike Groah > 13 flight hours on my Piet so far > > > > > On Oct 20, 2012, at 7:55 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote: > >> >> Way to go, Mark!! >> ------Original Message------ >> From: Mark Roberts >> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Went flying today... >> Sent: Oct 20, 2012 7:19 PM >> >> >> A friend of mine has the dealership rights to California for the Sport Cruiser LSA and asked me to help him sell some. I am in the midst of the 4th lay off in 7 years, so I figured what the heck?! >> >> We went flying today so I could experience the plane, and after not being behind the controls for 4 years, it sure felt great. I wish I was further along on my Piet, as it is hard to be stressed and worried at 4500 feet looking down on God's green earth! >> >> So glad to hear Douwe is back in the air with his beautiful airplane! The Sport Cruiser is one very nice plane, and I hope to get more time in one as time goes on. >> >> But you can't get bugs in your teeth with that big canopy! Need some fresh air for that... :) Not a substitute for an open cockpit! >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385709#385709 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.