Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 10/23/12


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:05 AM - Re: Hightower's "Resignation" (woodflier@aol.com)
     2. 07:12 AM - Thanks Mike! (echobravo4)
     3. 07:17 AM - Re: Towing Gliders (woodflier@aol.com)
     4. 10:56 AM - Re: Towing Gliders (nightmare)
     5. 11:50 AM - Paul's new Pietenpol  (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
     6. 11:57 AM - Re: Thanks Mike! (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
     7. 03:44 PM - Re: Re: Hightower's "Resignation" (C N Campbell)
     8. 06:34 PM - Pulleys (Larry V)
     9. 07:11 PM - Re: Paul's new Pietenpol (nightmare)
    10. 09:38 PM - Re: Pulleys (Chris)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:05:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Hightower's "Resignation"
    From: woodflier@aol.com
    Mike, I couldn't agree with you more. If you read between the lines, it loo ks like the board wanted him out. When I had my incident at OSH this year, I had terrific help from a lot of EAA volunteers, and most of them were not Hightower fans, by a long shot. Ask around about the $30,000 golf cart he demanded. I've always camped in North 40 with a bunch of people, and we all fly in together so that we can camp together. This year, it almost looked like the marching orders were to intentionally not park groups together. Th ere were a lot of upset folks, not just in our group. I also hope they bring back the Sportair workshops. I attended several and they were great. Good riddance! Matt Paxton


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    Time: 07:12:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Thanks Mike!
    From: "echobravo4" <eab4@comcast.net>
    Dispute the cold gray day- had a great visit with Mr. Cuy over the weekend First time I've seen the plane in person It really is a beautiful job! Thanks again Mike for taking the time And all the info Earl -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385846#385846 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_187.jpg


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    Time: 07:17:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Towing Gliders
    From: woodflier@aol.com
    Paul, this may have already been covered, but I would think that if glider towing is including in the Operating Limitations, you could legally do it. You may not be able to do it for hire, though. I'm a glider pilot and a tow pilot for our glider club. If the ultralight glider can be towed at speeds of 55-60 mph, a Piet with a 75 or 85 hp engine might be a good towplane. I would hesitate to tow with my 65 hp. Piet unless I was operating out of a long strip with no obstructions. You need good climb performance in a towpl ane, so more power would be a good thing since that's about all that added power does for a Piet, increase the climb rate. I'd also want the release l ever on the towplane end to be easily accessible. If it was on the floor, w here many towplanes have them, it would be a struggle to reach it quickly. I'd want a knob on the panel or just below it, very much like the red knob in the center of the panel in the sailplane I fly. If you're going to do a lot of towing, make sure your cooling is a good as you can make it. If you' re using a Continental, make sure you have the inter-cylinder baffles insta lled. A mechanical CHT gauge wouldn't be a bad idea also. Matt Paxton


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    Time: 10:56:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Towing Gliders
    From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
    Thanks Mike; looks like all amateur built experimentals are issued the limitation of no glider towing. but my thread describes two ways to possibly getting around it. im using the high lift 613.5 riblett wing and stretching it as well, so i believe the speeds will match up nicely. im using a corvair engine and will be looking into a climb prop too. thanks for the heads up on cooling and release location, great info, thanks; Paul -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385872#385872


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    Time: 11:50:14 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Paul's new Pietenpol
    Paul-- Do you have a paint scheme selected yet for your Pietenpol? Sounds like you'll be using the Corvair engine and the Riblett wing. Mike C.


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    Time: 11:57:37 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Thanks Mike!
    Enjoyed our visit Earl Brown and hope your class reunion out in Chardon was fun. Too bad it wasn't today---we are in the low 70's. Hope you're going to keep making sawdust this winter in PA! All the best, Mike C.


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    Time: 03:44:39 PM PST US
    From: "C N Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Hightower's "Resignation"
    Yeah, I'm going to renew one more year. If things don't change I've had it! C ----- Original Message ----- From: woodflier@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 10:04 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hightower's "Resignation" Mike, I couldn't agree with you more. If you read between the lines, it looks like the board wanted him out. When I had my incident at OSH this year, I had terrific help from a lot of EAA volunteers, and most of them were not Hightower fans, by a long shot. Ask around about the $30,000 golf cart he demanded. I've always camped in North 40 with a bunch of people, and we all fly in together so that we can camp together. This year, it almost looked like the marching orders were to intentionally not park groups together. There were a lot of upset folks, not just in our group. I also hope they bring back the Sportair workshops. I attended several and they were great. Good riddance! Matt Paxton


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    Time: 06:34:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Pulleys
    From: "Larry V" <larryvangerven@hotmail.com>
    Hello Everyone, I read this forum everyday and it keeps me motivated in moving forward on building my piet. I am looking at getting the pulleys for the aileron cables. The plans call for 2 inch formica pulleys and 3/32 cable. I am looking at ordering the pulleys from aircraft spruce part # A-123 (nas) it doesn't show any hub dia. or load limit (lbs). I was wondering if anyone could tell me if these pulleys are ok or have any other suggestions? Thanks Larry V Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385897#385897


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    Time: 07:11:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Paul's new Pietenpol
    From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
    im tentatively thinking; silver wings with black leading edge and large NX numbers underneath. tail feathers the same. fuselage design identical to Douwe's , but with black where the green is and a very deep red in place of the lighter color. gold pin striping seperating the black from the other colors throughout. and maybe a nastalgic sign on the side advertising a cloud seeding business. I may change this several more times , as i have already done so in my head. seems so far away, right now just a dream about what it will look like in the end. also the Keri Ann 3 piece wing and side door. 19 inch wheels, wood struts, center flop, wide center section, center section, carving my prop,3 piece windshields, taller and wider main gear like Mike Groah, and maybe even Douwe's main gear axle wing for that added lift to help me clear the trees at the end of the runway. ok enough dreaming, a rib is calling my name. so far less than three months; tail feathers , 21 ribs and engine tore down. going to corvair college as well. i'm going to be sooo bored when im finished with this. thanks for asking; Paul -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385900#385900


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    Time: 09:38:10 PM PST US
    From: "Chris" <catdesigns@att.net>
    Subject: Pulleys
    Larry The A-123 series pulleys are used on secondary controls because the pulley has a plain bore. The MS24566 series are used on primary controls because they have a sealed ball bearing hub. I am using the MS24566-3B pulleys because I quite frankly didn't realize the aileron control cables were only 3/32nd. If I would have known this I might have gone with the -2B and modified the fitting. As it is I will just watch and see if it's a problem for the 3/32 cable but I don't think it will be a problem. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry V Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 6:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pulleys --> <larryvangerven@hotmail.com> Hello Everyone, I read this forum everyday and it keeps me motivated in moving forward on building my piet. I am looking at getting the pulleys for the aileron cables. The plans call for 2 inch formica pulleys and 3/32 cable. I am looking at ordering the pulleys from aircraft spruce part # A-123 (nas) it doesn't show any hub dia. or load limit (lbs). I was wondering if anyone could tell me if these pulleys are ok or have any other suggestions? Thanks Larry V Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385897#385897




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