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1. 04:44 AM - Chris (JOSEPH SWITHIN)
2. 09:34 AM - Stupendous camera work (Dan Yocum)
3. 10:25 AM - Re: Stupendous camera work (Andre Abreu)
4. 01:01 PM - A cold fall flight... (Douwe Blumberg)
5. 01:55 PM - Re: A cold fall flight... (echobravo4)
6. 02:24 PM - Re: Chris (Chris Rusch)
7. 02:37 PM - Re: A cold fall flight... (DaveG601XL)
8. 03:13 PM - Re: A cold fall flight...In Calif, Too! (Gary Boothe)
9. 03:14 PM - Re: A cold fall flight... (Jack Phillips)
10. 03:23 PM - Re: Stupendous camera work (Gary Boothe)
11. 04:00 PM - Re: A cold fall flight... (Jack)
12. 07:27 PM - Re: A cold fall flight... (K5YAC)
13. 08:37 PM - Re: A cold fall flight...In Calif, Too! (Ray Krause)
14. 09:42 PM - Missing Conversation... (K5YAC)
15. 09:56 PM - Re: Missing Conversation... (Ray Krause)
16. 10:08 PM - Re: Missing Conversation... (K5YAC)
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Looks good Chris. How did you get the UK plans? Where did you get the plans to
make the wing stands?
Thanks
Joe in Morris, IL
Installing electrical in my new shop/garage
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| Subject: | Stupendous camera work |
https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/Videos?authkey=Gv1sRgCLv1hJzy6qHyywE#5806622457115750114
https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/N8031#5806270317657436018
https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/N8031#5806270261907816146
Jeff's definitely got the look of a 1929 pilot.
Enjoy N8031, Jeff. I know I did!
Cheers
Dan
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yocum137@gmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Stupendous camera work |
Sweet!
Andy Abreu
6186L
--- On Sat, 11/3/12, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stupendous camera work
https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/Videos?authkey=Gv1sRgC
Lv1hJzy6qHyywE#5806622457115750114
https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/N8031#580627031765743601
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https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/N8031#580627026190781614
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Jeff's definitely got the look of a 1929 pilot.
Enjoy N8031, Jeff.- I know I did!
Cheers
Dan
-- Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | A cold fall flight... |
Forecast said this would be a cool, cloudy but very still day. Got to the
airport at 11:00am, it was about 40 degrees. I was interested in how cold
it would feel, and excited because this would be my first chance to use the
WWII vintage leather flying coveralls I purchased years ago Chris Bobka
during the building/dreaming stage.
Fueled up with twelve gallons of 100ll. Suit felt great, clearly designed
for sitting, though it was hard to get my harness on. Earplugs in, leather
helmet on, goggles on (I need these with my windscreens or else my eyes
water all the time and burn the next day). Pointed her nose down the runway
(not into the wind, as there wasn't any) and took of into a leaden sky for a
later morning patrol.
The C-90/Cloud Car prop combo turns up about 2475 on climbout, though I kept
the nose down to keep the engine cool as she's still breaking in. Turned
away to find the local lake while I climbed to 3,000. Proceeded to explore
both power on and power off stalls. I can feel absolutely NO buffet before
either. I'm trying to train myself to feel when she's on the edge, but the
best I can come up with is a mushy feel on the elevators. If I didn't have
earplugs, I'm sure the sounds would be a giveaway as well. She stalls
straight ahead power on and power off.
After I played around with that for a while, I decided to see if my
refurbished Garmin 196 was working so I flew over to Lebanon/Warren County,
led me right there. Overflew it and decided now was as good a time as ever
to try an asphalt landing, so got into the pattern and did one fly by down
the runway to get a feel for it. Set up again and everything went really
well, three-pointed it on and she stayed nice and straight. I like the
bungees being pretty firm, she just seems to squat onto the pavement. As I
gave her the gas to go around, I noticed a guy running out with a camera so
gave him some smoke, knowing I"d have to clean her up later because I've not
installed the longer downpipes on my exhaust, but what the heck! I remember
being that guy for most of my life!!
Did another nice landing and headed home.
Approaching the field I saw about a half dozen parachutes over the field so
I flew right through them with smoke going. NO, JUST KIDDING. I peeled off
and hung out of range 'til the last one landed then came in for a landing.
However, by now, it's been almost an hour and I guess I'm colder than I
thought (my teeth were almost chattering) and I plunked her down from too
high. Guess I was in some sort of cold stupor or something. Ticked me off
so I went around and did it twice more, both of them nice. Good lesson to
learn, that you can get kind of numb when it's cold, or after a long flight.
First raindrops started to fall as I taxied to the hangar. Went to
Mcdonalds and got some coffee and drove home.
God is good!
Keep building, it's worth it!!!
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: A cold fall flight... |
Thanks Douwe, that great!
--------
Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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You have to join the uk club and then there free to download from their website.
I just threw together the stands from some scrap metal I had laying around.
I will post up a sketch with some dimensions when I get back out in the shop....
--------
NX321LR
Fully Assembled
Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
Wings to be covered next.
Mitsubishi Powered
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| Subject: | Re: A cold fall flight... |
Douwe, that guy with a camera was me. I spotted you as a Pietenpol over a mile
out and scrambled to get my camera in case you only flew by once. Fortunately
you hung around and did a few touch-n-go's so I drove down the taxiway to get
a little closer. I tried hailing you on the radio to see if you would mind
stopping by so I could admire your Piet but I guess you were NORDO. Looked great!
Here are some of the pictures I took. Did you hit any of the rain on your
way home?
I believe we may have some common acquaintances. I know Kentuckians Barry Rusk,who
has a Kitfox, and Dan Sherrer, who is building a Zenith 601XL and they told
me they knew about you and your Pietenpol.
--------
David Gallagher
Zodiac 601 XL-B: flying, 220+ hours now
Next project under construction: Finish my father's Aircamper
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386676#386676
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| Subject: | A cold fall flight...In Calif, Too! |
Great story, Douwe! Mine's not nearly so good: Cold 68 deg Fall day in N.
Calif. ;-).flew into the Sierra foothills, then turned around and came back.
One landing.a good one, so need to do more! Besides, too much traffic and me
without a radio.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 1:02 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A cold fall flight...
Forecast said this would be a cool, cloudy but very still day. Got to the
airport at 11:00am, it was about 40 degrees. I was interested in how cold
it would feel, and excited because this would be my first chance to use the
WWII vintage leather flying coveralls I purchased years ago Chris Bobka
during the building/dreaming stage.
Fueled up with twelve gallons of 100ll. Suit felt great, clearly designed
for sitting, though it was hard to get my harness on. Earplugs in, leather
helmet on, goggles on (I need these with my windscreens or else my eyes
water all the time and burn the next day). Pointed her nose down the runway
(not into the wind, as there wasn't any) and took of into a leaden sky for a
later morning patrol.
The C-90/Cloud Car prop combo turns up about 2475 on climbout, though I kept
the nose down to keep the engine cool as she's still breaking in. Turned
away to find the local lake while I climbed to 3,000. Proceeded to explore
both power on and power off stalls. I can feel absolutely NO buffet before
either. I'm trying to train myself to feel when she's on the edge, but the
best I can come up with is a mushy feel on the elevators. If I didn't have
earplugs, I'm sure the sounds would be a giveaway as well. She stalls
straight ahead power on and power off.
After I played around with that for a while, I decided to see if my
refurbished Garmin 196 was working so I flew over to Lebanon/Warren County,
led me right there. Overflew it and decided now was as good a time as ever
to try an asphalt landing, so got into the pattern and did one fly by down
the runway to get a feel for it. Set up again and everything went really
well, three-pointed it on and she stayed nice and straight. I like the
bungees being pretty firm, she just seems to squat onto the pavement. As I
gave her the gas to go around, I noticed a guy running out with a camera so
gave him some smoke, knowing I"d have to clean her up later because I've not
installed the longer downpipes on my exhaust, but what the heck! I remember
being that guy for most of my life!!
Did another nice landing and headed home.
Approaching the field I saw about a half dozen parachutes over the field so
I flew right through them with smoke going. NO, JUST KIDDING. I peeled off
and hung out of range 'til the last one landed then came in for a landing.
However, by now, it's been almost an hour and I guess I'm colder than I
thought (my teeth were almost chattering) and I plunked her down from too
high. Guess I was in some sort of cold stupor or something. Ticked me off
so I went around and did it twice more, both of them nice. Good lesson to
learn, that you can get kind of numb when it's cold, or after a long flight.
First raindrops started to fall as I taxied to the hangar. Went to
Mcdonalds and got some coffee and drove home.
God is good!
Keep building, it's worth it!!!
Douwe
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| Subject: | A cold fall flight... |
Nice writeup, Douwe.
I find the same thing, after flying a long leg of a cross-country, I tend to
land about 3' above the runway. I find it best to make a full pattern to
get some turns in to sort of get the feel of the airplane back. Worst is if
I make a straight-in approach. I need to make at least one turn, to have
any chance at a decent landing.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 4:02 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A cold fall flight...
Forecast said this would be a cool, cloudy but very still day. Got to the
airport at 11:00am, it was about 40 degrees. I was interested in how cold
it would feel, and excited because this would be my first chance to use the
WWII vintage leather flying coveralls I purchased years ago Chris Bobka
during the building/dreaming stage.
Fueled up with twelve gallons of 100ll. Suit felt great, clearly designed
for sitting, though it was hard to get my harness on. Earplugs in, leather
helmet on, goggles on (I need these with my windscreens or else my eyes
water all the time and burn the next day). Pointed her nose down the runway
(not into the wind, as there wasn't any) and took of into a leaden sky for a
later morning patrol.
The C-90/Cloud Car prop combo turns up about 2475 on climbout, though I kept
the nose down to keep the engine cool as she's still breaking in. Turned
away to find the local lake while I climbed to 3,000. Proceeded to explore
both power on and power off stalls. I can feel absolutely NO buffet before
either. I'm trying to train myself to feel when she's on the edge, but the
best I can come up with is a mushy feel on the elevators. If I didn't have
earplugs, I'm sure the sounds would be a giveaway as well. She stalls
straight ahead power on and power off.
After I played around with that for a while, I decided to see if my
refurbished Garmin 196 was working so I flew over to Lebanon/Warren County,
led me right there. Overflew it and decided now was as good a time as ever
to try an asphalt landing, so got into the pattern and did one fly by down
the runway to get a feel for it. Set up again and everything went really
well, three-pointed it on and she stayed nice and straight. I like the
bungees being pretty firm, she just seems to squat onto the pavement. As I
gave her the gas to go around, I noticed a guy running out with a camera so
gave him some smoke, knowing I"d have to clean her up later because I've not
installed the longer downpipes on my exhaust, but what the heck! I remember
being that guy for most of my life!!
Did another nice landing and headed home.
Approaching the field I saw about a half dozen parachutes over the field so
I flew right through them with smoke going. NO, JUST KIDDING. I peeled off
and hung out of range 'til the last one landed then came in for a landing.
However, by now, it's been almost an hour and I guess I'm colder than I
thought (my teeth were almost chattering) and I plunked her down from too
high. Guess I was in some sort of cold stupor or something. Ticked me off
so I went around and did it twice more, both of them nice. Good lesson to
learn, that you can get kind of numb when it's cold, or after a long flight.
First raindrops started to fall as I taxied to the hangar. Went to
Mcdonalds and got some coffee and drove home.
God is good!
Keep building, it's worth it!!!
Douwe
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| Subject: | Stupendous camera work |
[sigh]
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:33 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stupendous camera work
https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/Videos?authkey=Gv1sRgCLv1
hJzy6qHyywE#5806622457115750114
https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/N8031#5806270317657436018
https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/N8031#5806270261907816146
Jeff's definitely got the look of a 1929 pilot.
Enjoy N8031, Jeff. I know I did!
Cheers
Dan
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yocum137@gmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: A cold fall flight... |
Douwe thanks so much for the continued inspiration!
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
Do not archive
On Nov 3, 2012, at 3:01 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> Forecast said this would be a cool, cloudy but very still day. Got to the
airport at 11:00am, it was about 40 degrees. I was interested in how cold i
t would feel, and excited because this would be my first chance to use the W
WII vintage leather flying coveralls I purchased years ago Chris Bobka durin
g the building/dreaming stage.
>
> Fueled up with twelve gallons of 100ll. Suit felt great, clearly designed
for sitting, though it was hard to get my harness on. Earplugs in, leather
helmet on, goggles on (I need these with my windscreens or else my eyes wat
er all the time and burn the next day). Pointed her nose down the runway (n
ot into the wind, as there wasn=99t any) and took of into a leaden sky
for a later morning patrol.
>
> The C-90/Cloud Car prop combo turns up about 2475 on climbout, though I ke
pt the nose down to keep the engine cool as she=99s still breaking in.
Turned away to find the local lake while I climbed to 3,000. Proceeded to
explore both power on and power off stalls. I can feel absolutely NO buffe
t before either. I=99m trying to train myself to feel when she=99
s on the edge, but the best I can come up with is a mushy feel on the elevat
ors. If I didn=99t have earplugs, I=99m sure the sounds would b
e a giveaway as well. She stalls straight ahead power on and power off.
>
> After I played around with that for a while, I decided to see if my refurb
ished Garmin 196 was working so I flew over to Lebanon/Warren County, led me
right there. Overflew it and decided now was as good a time as ever to try
an asphalt landing, so got into the pattern and did one fly by down the run
way to get a feel for it. Set up again and everything went really well, thr
ee-pointed it on and she stayed nice and straight. I like the bungees being
pretty firm, she just seems to squat onto the pavement. As I gave her the g
as to go around, I noticed a guy running out with a camera so gave him some s
moke, knowing I=9Dd have to clean her up later because I=99ve no
t installed the longer downpipes on my exhaust, but what the heck! I remembe
r being that guy for most of my life!!
> Did another nice landing and headed home.
>
> Approaching the field I saw about a half dozen parachutes over the field s
o I flew right through them with smoke going NO, JUST KIDDING
I peeled off and hung out of range =98til the last one landed then
came in for a landing. However, by now, it=99s been almost an hour a
nd I guess I=99m colder than I thought (my teeth were almost chatterin
g) and I plunked her down from too high. Guess I was in some sort of cold s
tupor or something. Ticked me off so I went around and did it twice more, b
oth of them nice. Good lesson to learn, that you can get kind of numb when i
t=99s cold, or after a long flight.
>
> First raindrops started to fall as I taxied to the hangar. Went to Mcdona
lds and got some coffee and drove home.
>
> God is good!
>
> Keep building, it=99s worth it!!!
>
> Douwe
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A cold fall flight... |
Really enjoying your reports Douwe. Thanks for sharing your experience. That
bit about flying through the parachutes cracked me up... had me going for a second
as I read that. Ha!
The photos look way cool... you have a really neat looking airplane.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
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| Subject: | Re: A cold fall flight...In Calif, Too! |
Beautiful pictures, Gary. I flew to Oroville And then to Corning today. Cor
ning is on 123.00 Unicom ,so I thought about asking those in the pattern at L
incoln if they saw a beautiful Pietenpol flying around! Sounded as though L
incoln was pretty busy today. I will find you someday.
Ray
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 3, 2012, at 3:12 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> Great story, Douwe! Mine=99s not nearly so good: Cold 68 deg Fall d
ay in N. Calif. ;-)flew into the Sierra foothills, then turned arou
nd and came back. One landinga good one, so need to do more! Beside
s, too much traffic and me without a radio.
>
> <image001.jpg>
>
> <image002.jpg>
>
> <image003.jpg>
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 1:02 PM
> To: pietenpolgroup
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: A cold fall flight...
>
> Forecast said this would be a cool, cloudy but very still day. Got to the
airport at 11:00am, it was about 40 degrees. I was interested in how cold i
t would feel, and excited because this would be my first chance to use the W
WII vintage leather flying coveralls I purchased years ago Chris Bobka durin
g the building/dreaming stage.
>
> Fueled up with twelve gallons of 100ll. Suit felt great, clearly designed
for sitting, though it was hard to get my harness on. Earplugs in, leather
helmet on, goggles on (I need these with my windscreens or else my eyes wat
er all the time and burn the next day). Pointed her nose down the runway (n
ot into the wind, as there wasn=99t any) and took of into a leaden sky
for a later morning patrol.
>
> The C-90/Cloud Car prop combo turns up about 2475 on climbout, though I ke
pt the nose down to keep the engine cool as she=99s still breaking in.
Turned away to find the local lake while I climbed to 3,000. Proceeded to
explore both power on and power off stalls. I can feel absolutely NO buffe
t before either. I=99m trying to train myself to feel when she=99
s on the edge, but the best I can come up with is a mushy feel on the elevat
ors. If I didn=99t have earplugs, I=99m sure the sounds would b
e a giveaway as well. She stalls straight ahead power on and power off.
>
> After I played around with that for a while, I decided to see if my refurb
ished Garmin 196 was working so I flew over to Lebanon/Warren County, led me
right there. Overflew it and decided now was as good a time as ever to try
an asphalt landing, so got into the pattern and did one fly by down the run
way to get a feel for it. Set up again and everything went really well, thr
ee-pointed it on and she stayed nice and straight. I like the bungees being
pretty firm, she just seems to squat onto the pavement. As I gave her the g
as to go around, I noticed a guy running out with a camera so gave him some s
moke, knowing I=9Dd have to clean her up later because I=99ve no
t installed the longer downpipes on my exhaust, but what the heck! I remembe
r being that guy for most of my life!!
> Did another nice landing and headed home.
>
> Approaching the field I saw about a half dozen parachutes over the field s
o I flew right through them with smoke going NO, JUST KIDDING
I peeled off and hung out of range =98til the last one landed then
came in for a landing. However, by now, it=99s been almost an hour a
nd I guess I=99m colder than I thought (my teeth were almost chatterin
g) and I plunked her down from too high. Guess I was in some sort of cold s
tupor or something. Ticked me off so I went around and did it twice more, b
oth of them nice. Good lesson to learn, that you can get kind of numb when i
t=99s cold, or after a long flight.
>
> First raindrops started to fall as I taxied to the hangar. Went to Mcdona
lds and got some coffee and drove home.
>
> God is good!
>
> Keep building, it=99s worth it!!!
>
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On several occasions I've noticed that people are replying to comments made by
others that aren't being posted to the web version... makes it clear to me that
I am missing large parts of conversations at times.
As an example, in this thread it is clear that Ray is responding to a comment that
Gary made in reference to Douwe's most recent report.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=93484&sid=050cc831f5c323faf06269b797dca07c
But there is no sign of Gary's comment on Douwe's thread...
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=93478
There could be an easy answer to this, but I'm just wondering, where are these
conversations taking place? Via e-mail? If so, why would the e-mail be received
by the group, but the text not be displayed on the web list? I mean, there
appear to be others that use e-mail to communicate and their text is on the
web (i.e. Ray received Gary's text, which doesn't appear on the web, yet Ray's
response IS on the web). I'm wondering how I can see all of the conversation
without having to constantly check or participate via e-mail?
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
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Maybe we have to "Reply to all" on this forum so everyone can see it? I have just
been hitting "Reply". Maybe Matt could respond.
Ray
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On Nov 3, 2012, at 9:42 PM, "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
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> On several occasions I've noticed that people are replying to comments made by
others that aren't being posted to the web version... makes it clear to me that
I am missing large parts of conversations at times.
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> As an example, in this thread it is clear that Ray is responding to a comment
that Gary made in reference to Douwe's most recent report.
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=93484&sid=050cc831f5c323faf06269b797dca07c
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> But there is no sign of Gary's comment on Douwe's thread...
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=93478
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> There could be an easy answer to this, but I'm just wondering, where are these
conversations taking place? Via e-mail? If so, why would the e-mail be received
by the group, but the text not be displayed on the web list? I mean, there
appear to be others that use e-mail to communicate and their text is on the
web (i.e. Ray received Gary's text, which doesn't appear on the web, yet Ray's
response IS on the web). I'm wondering how I can see all of the conversation
without having to constantly check or participate via e-mail?
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> Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
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Your text posted fine Ray. While it created a new thread, it did at least get
posted.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
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