---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/03/12: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 10:29 AM - Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists (Matt Dralle) 1. 04:44 AM - Chris (JOSEPH SWITHIN) 2. 09:34 AM - Stupendous camera work (Dan Yocum) 3. 10:25 AM - Re: Stupendous camera work (Andre Abreu) 4. 01:01 PM - A cold fall flight... (Douwe Blumberg) 5. 01:55 PM - Re: A cold fall flight... (echobravo4) 6. 02:24 PM - Re: Chris (Chris Rusch) 7. 02:37 PM - Re: A cold fall flight... (DaveG601XL) 8. 03:13 PM - Re: A cold fall flight...In Calif, Too! (Gary Boothe) 9. 03:14 PM - Re: A cold fall flight... (Jack Phillips) 10. 03:23 PM - Re: Stupendous camera work (Gary Boothe) 11. 04:00 PM - Re: A cold fall flight... (Jack) 12. 07:27 PM - Re: A cold fall flight... (K5YAC) 13. 08:37 PM - Re: A cold fall flight...In Calif, Too! (Ray Krause) 14. 09:42 PM - Missing Conversation... (K5YAC) 15. 09:56 PM - Re: Missing Conversation... (Ray Krause) 16. 10:08 PM - Re: Missing Conversation... (K5YAC) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:50 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! 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Thanks Joe in Morris, IL Installing electrical in my new shop/garage ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:08 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stupendous camera work https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/Videos?authkey=Gv1sRgCLv1hJzy6qHyywE#5806622457115750114 https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/N8031#5806270317657436018 https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/N8031#5806270261907816146 Jeff's definitely got the look of a 1929 pilot. Enjoy N8031, Jeff. I know I did! Cheers Dan -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:25:50 AM PST US From: Andre Abreu Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stupendous camera work Sweet! Andy Abreu 6186L --- On Sat, 11/3/12, Dan Yocum wrote: From: Dan Yocum Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stupendous camera work https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/Videos?authkey=Gv1sRgC Lv1hJzy6qHyywE#5806622457115750114 https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/N8031#580627031765743601 8 https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/N8031#580627026190781614 6 Jeff's definitely got the look of a 1929 pilot. Enjoy N8031, Jeff.- I know I did! Cheers Dan -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:37 PM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: A cold fall flight... Forecast said this would be a cool, cloudy but very still day. Got to the airport at 11:00am, it was about 40 degrees. I was interested in how cold it would feel, and excited because this would be my first chance to use the WWII vintage leather flying coveralls I purchased years ago Chris Bobka during the building/dreaming stage. Fueled up with twelve gallons of 100ll. Suit felt great, clearly designed for sitting, though it was hard to get my harness on. Earplugs in, leather helmet on, goggles on (I need these with my windscreens or else my eyes water all the time and burn the next day). Pointed her nose down the runway (not into the wind, as there wasn't any) and took of into a leaden sky for a later morning patrol. The C-90/Cloud Car prop combo turns up about 2475 on climbout, though I kept the nose down to keep the engine cool as she's still breaking in. Turned away to find the local lake while I climbed to 3,000. Proceeded to explore both power on and power off stalls. I can feel absolutely NO buffet before either. I'm trying to train myself to feel when she's on the edge, but the best I can come up with is a mushy feel on the elevators. If I didn't have earplugs, I'm sure the sounds would be a giveaway as well. She stalls straight ahead power on and power off. After I played around with that for a while, I decided to see if my refurbished Garmin 196 was working so I flew over to Lebanon/Warren County, led me right there. Overflew it and decided now was as good a time as ever to try an asphalt landing, so got into the pattern and did one fly by down the runway to get a feel for it. Set up again and everything went really well, three-pointed it on and she stayed nice and straight. I like the bungees being pretty firm, she just seems to squat onto the pavement. As I gave her the gas to go around, I noticed a guy running out with a camera so gave him some smoke, knowing I"d have to clean her up later because I've not installed the longer downpipes on my exhaust, but what the heck! I remember being that guy for most of my life!! Did another nice landing and headed home. Approaching the field I saw about a half dozen parachutes over the field so I flew right through them with smoke going. NO, JUST KIDDING. I peeled off and hung out of range 'til the last one landed then came in for a landing. However, by now, it's been almost an hour and I guess I'm colder than I thought (my teeth were almost chattering) and I plunked her down from too high. Guess I was in some sort of cold stupor or something. Ticked me off so I went around and did it twice more, both of them nice. Good lesson to learn, that you can get kind of numb when it's cold, or after a long flight. First raindrops started to fall as I taxied to the hangar. Went to Mcdonalds and got some coffee and drove home. God is good! Keep building, it's worth it!!! Douwe ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:55:55 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A cold fall flight... From: "echobravo4" Thanks Douwe, that great! -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386674#386674 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:24:32 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Chris From: "Chris Rusch" You have to join the uk club and then there free to download from their website. I just threw together the stands from some scrap metal I had laying around. I will post up a sketch with some dimensions when I get back out in the shop.... -------- NX321LR Fully Assembled Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted. Wings to be covered next. Mitsubishi Powered Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386675#386675 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:37:21 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A cold fall flight... From: "DaveG601XL" Douwe, that guy with a camera was me. I spotted you as a Pietenpol over a mile out and scrambled to get my camera in case you only flew by once. Fortunately you hung around and did a few touch-n-go's so I drove down the taxiway to get a little closer. I tried hailing you on the radio to see if you would mind stopping by so I could admire your Piet but I guess you were NORDO. Looked great! Here are some of the pictures I took. Did you hit any of the rain on your way home? I believe we may have some common acquaintances. I know Kentuckians Barry Rusk,who has a Kitfox, and Dan Sherrer, who is building a Zenith 601XL and they told me they knew about you and your Pietenpol. -------- David Gallagher Zodiac 601 XL-B: flying, 220+ hours now Next project under construction: Finish my father's Aircamper Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386676#386676 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/douwe11_03_12_02_130.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/douwe11_03_12_01_155.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:13:14 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A cold fall flight...In Calif, Too! Great story, Douwe! Mine's not nearly so good: Cold 68 deg Fall day in N. Calif. ;-).flew into the Sierra foothills, then turned around and came back. One landing.a good one, so need to do more! Besides, too much traffic and me without a radio. Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 1:02 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: A cold fall flight... Forecast said this would be a cool, cloudy but very still day. Got to the airport at 11:00am, it was about 40 degrees. I was interested in how cold it would feel, and excited because this would be my first chance to use the WWII vintage leather flying coveralls I purchased years ago Chris Bobka during the building/dreaming stage. Fueled up with twelve gallons of 100ll. Suit felt great, clearly designed for sitting, though it was hard to get my harness on. Earplugs in, leather helmet on, goggles on (I need these with my windscreens or else my eyes water all the time and burn the next day). Pointed her nose down the runway (not into the wind, as there wasn't any) and took of into a leaden sky for a later morning patrol. The C-90/Cloud Car prop combo turns up about 2475 on climbout, though I kept the nose down to keep the engine cool as she's still breaking in. Turned away to find the local lake while I climbed to 3,000. Proceeded to explore both power on and power off stalls. I can feel absolutely NO buffet before either. I'm trying to train myself to feel when she's on the edge, but the best I can come up with is a mushy feel on the elevators. If I didn't have earplugs, I'm sure the sounds would be a giveaway as well. She stalls straight ahead power on and power off. After I played around with that for a while, I decided to see if my refurbished Garmin 196 was working so I flew over to Lebanon/Warren County, led me right there. Overflew it and decided now was as good a time as ever to try an asphalt landing, so got into the pattern and did one fly by down the runway to get a feel for it. Set up again and everything went really well, three-pointed it on and she stayed nice and straight. I like the bungees being pretty firm, she just seems to squat onto the pavement. As I gave her the gas to go around, I noticed a guy running out with a camera so gave him some smoke, knowing I"d have to clean her up later because I've not installed the longer downpipes on my exhaust, but what the heck! I remember being that guy for most of my life!! Did another nice landing and headed home. Approaching the field I saw about a half dozen parachutes over the field so I flew right through them with smoke going. NO, JUST KIDDING. I peeled off and hung out of range 'til the last one landed then came in for a landing. However, by now, it's been almost an hour and I guess I'm colder than I thought (my teeth were almost chattering) and I plunked her down from too high. Guess I was in some sort of cold stupor or something. Ticked me off so I went around and did it twice more, both of them nice. Good lesson to learn, that you can get kind of numb when it's cold, or after a long flight. First raindrops started to fall as I taxied to the hangar. Went to Mcdonalds and got some coffee and drove home. God is good! Keep building, it's worth it!!! Douwe ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:14:38 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A cold fall flight... Nice writeup, Douwe. I find the same thing, after flying a long leg of a cross-country, I tend to land about 3' above the runway. I find it best to make a full pattern to get some turns in to sort of get the feel of the airplane back. Worst is if I make a straight-in approach. I need to make at least one turn, to have any chance at a decent landing. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 4:02 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: A cold fall flight... Forecast said this would be a cool, cloudy but very still day. Got to the airport at 11:00am, it was about 40 degrees. I was interested in how cold it would feel, and excited because this would be my first chance to use the WWII vintage leather flying coveralls I purchased years ago Chris Bobka during the building/dreaming stage. Fueled up with twelve gallons of 100ll. Suit felt great, clearly designed for sitting, though it was hard to get my harness on. Earplugs in, leather helmet on, goggles on (I need these with my windscreens or else my eyes water all the time and burn the next day). Pointed her nose down the runway (not into the wind, as there wasn't any) and took of into a leaden sky for a later morning patrol. The C-90/Cloud Car prop combo turns up about 2475 on climbout, though I kept the nose down to keep the engine cool as she's still breaking in. Turned away to find the local lake while I climbed to 3,000. Proceeded to explore both power on and power off stalls. I can feel absolutely NO buffet before either. I'm trying to train myself to feel when she's on the edge, but the best I can come up with is a mushy feel on the elevators. If I didn't have earplugs, I'm sure the sounds would be a giveaway as well. She stalls straight ahead power on and power off. After I played around with that for a while, I decided to see if my refurbished Garmin 196 was working so I flew over to Lebanon/Warren County, led me right there. Overflew it and decided now was as good a time as ever to try an asphalt landing, so got into the pattern and did one fly by down the runway to get a feel for it. Set up again and everything went really well, three-pointed it on and she stayed nice and straight. I like the bungees being pretty firm, she just seems to squat onto the pavement. As I gave her the gas to go around, I noticed a guy running out with a camera so gave him some smoke, knowing I"d have to clean her up later because I've not installed the longer downpipes on my exhaust, but what the heck! I remember being that guy for most of my life!! Did another nice landing and headed home. Approaching the field I saw about a half dozen parachutes over the field so I flew right through them with smoke going. NO, JUST KIDDING. I peeled off and hung out of range 'til the last one landed then came in for a landing. However, by now, it's been almost an hour and I guess I'm colder than I thought (my teeth were almost chattering) and I plunked her down from too high. Guess I was in some sort of cold stupor or something. Ticked me off so I went around and did it twice more, both of them nice. Good lesson to learn, that you can get kind of numb when it's cold, or after a long flight. First raindrops started to fall as I taxied to the hangar. Went to Mcdonalds and got some coffee and drove home. God is good! Keep building, it's worth it!!! Douwe ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:23:00 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Stupendous camera work [sigh] Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:33 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stupendous camera work https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/Videos?authkey=Gv1sRgCLv1 hJzy6qHyywE#5806622457115750114 https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/N8031#5806270317657436018 https://picasaweb.google.com/100843558075002483077/N8031#5806270261907816146 Jeff's definitely got the look of a 1929 pilot. Enjoy N8031, Jeff. I know I did! Cheers Dan -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:00:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A cold fall flight... From: Jack Douwe thanks so much for the continued inspiration! Sent from my iPad Jack Textor Do not archive On Nov 3, 2012, at 3:01 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" w rote: > Forecast said this would be a cool, cloudy but very still day. Got to the airport at 11:00am, it was about 40 degrees. I was interested in how cold i t would feel, and excited because this would be my first chance to use the W WII vintage leather flying coveralls I purchased years ago Chris Bobka durin g the building/dreaming stage. > > Fueled up with twelve gallons of 100ll. Suit felt great, clearly designed for sitting, though it was hard to get my harness on. Earplugs in, leather helmet on, goggles on (I need these with my windscreens or else my eyes wat er all the time and burn the next day). Pointed her nose down the runway (n ot into the wind, as there wasn=99t any) and took of into a leaden sky for a later morning patrol. > > The C-90/Cloud Car prop combo turns up about 2475 on climbout, though I ke pt the nose down to keep the engine cool as she=99s still breaking in. Turned away to find the local lake while I climbed to 3,000. Proceeded to explore both power on and power off stalls. I can feel absolutely NO buffe t before either. I=99m trying to train myself to feel when she=99 s on the edge, but the best I can come up with is a mushy feel on the elevat ors. If I didn=99t have earplugs, I=99m sure the sounds would b e a giveaway as well. She stalls straight ahead power on and power off. > > After I played around with that for a while, I decided to see if my refurb ished Garmin 196 was working so I flew over to Lebanon/Warren County, led me right there. Overflew it and decided now was as good a time as ever to try an asphalt landing, so got into the pattern and did one fly by down the run way to get a feel for it. Set up again and everything went really well, thr ee-pointed it on and she stayed nice and straight. I like the bungees being pretty firm, she just seems to squat onto the pavement. As I gave her the g as to go around, I noticed a guy running out with a camera so gave him some s moke, knowing I=9Dd have to clean her up later because I=99ve no t installed the longer downpipes on my exhaust, but what the heck! I remembe r being that guy for most of my life!! > Did another nice landing and headed home. > > Approaching the field I saw about a half dozen parachutes over the field s o I flew right through them with smoke going NO, JUST KIDDING I peeled off and hung out of range =98til the last one landed then came in for a landing. However, by now, it=99s been almost an hour a nd I guess I=99m colder than I thought (my teeth were almost chatterin g) and I plunked her down from too high. Guess I was in some sort of cold s tupor or something. Ticked me off so I went around and did it twice more, b oth of them nice. Good lesson to learn, that you can get kind of numb when i t=99s cold, or after a long flight. > > First raindrops started to fall as I taxied to the hangar. Went to Mcdona lds and got some coffee and drove home. > > God is good! > > Keep building, it=99s worth it!!! > > Douwe > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:27:06 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A cold fall flight... From: "K5YAC" Really enjoying your reports Douwe. Thanks for sharing your experience. That bit about flying through the parachutes cracked me up... had me going for a second as I read that. Ha! The photos look way cool... you have a really neat looking airplane. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386699#386699 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:37:14 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A cold fall flight...In Calif, Too! From: Ray Krause Beautiful pictures, Gary. I flew to Oroville And then to Corning today. Cor ning is on 123.00 Unicom ,so I thought about asking those in the pattern at L incoln if they saw a beautiful Pietenpol flying around! Sounded as though L incoln was pretty busy today. I will find you someday. Ray Sent from my iPad On Nov 3, 2012, at 3:12 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > Great story, Douwe! Mine=99s not nearly so good: Cold 68 deg Fall d ay in N. Calif. ;-)flew into the Sierra foothills, then turned arou nd and came back. One landinga good one, so need to do more! Beside s, too much traffic and me without a radio. > > > > > > > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 1:02 PM > To: pietenpolgroup > Subject: Pietenpol-List: A cold fall flight... > > Forecast said this would be a cool, cloudy but very still day. Got to the airport at 11:00am, it was about 40 degrees. I was interested in how cold i t would feel, and excited because this would be my first chance to use the W WII vintage leather flying coveralls I purchased years ago Chris Bobka durin g the building/dreaming stage. > > Fueled up with twelve gallons of 100ll. Suit felt great, clearly designed for sitting, though it was hard to get my harness on. Earplugs in, leather helmet on, goggles on (I need these with my windscreens or else my eyes wat er all the time and burn the next day). Pointed her nose down the runway (n ot into the wind, as there wasn=99t any) and took of into a leaden sky for a later morning patrol. > > The C-90/Cloud Car prop combo turns up about 2475 on climbout, though I ke pt the nose down to keep the engine cool as she=99s still breaking in. Turned away to find the local lake while I climbed to 3,000. Proceeded to explore both power on and power off stalls. I can feel absolutely NO buffe t before either. I=99m trying to train myself to feel when she=99 s on the edge, but the best I can come up with is a mushy feel on the elevat ors. If I didn=99t have earplugs, I=99m sure the sounds would b e a giveaway as well. She stalls straight ahead power on and power off. > > After I played around with that for a while, I decided to see if my refurb ished Garmin 196 was working so I flew over to Lebanon/Warren County, led me right there. Overflew it and decided now was as good a time as ever to try an asphalt landing, so got into the pattern and did one fly by down the run way to get a feel for it. Set up again and everything went really well, thr ee-pointed it on and she stayed nice and straight. I like the bungees being pretty firm, she just seems to squat onto the pavement. As I gave her the g as to go around, I noticed a guy running out with a camera so gave him some s moke, knowing I=9Dd have to clean her up later because I=99ve no t installed the longer downpipes on my exhaust, but what the heck! I remembe r being that guy for most of my life!! > Did another nice landing and headed home. > > Approaching the field I saw about a half dozen parachutes over the field s o I flew right through them with smoke going NO, JUST KIDDING I peeled off and hung out of range =98til the last one landed then came in for a landing. However, by now, it=99s been almost an hour a nd I guess I=99m colder than I thought (my teeth were almost chatterin g) and I plunked her down from too high. Guess I was in some sort of cold s tupor or something. Ticked me off so I went around and did it twice more, b oth of them nice. Good lesson to learn, that you can get kind of numb when i t=99s cold, or after a long flight. > > First raindrops started to fall as I taxied to the hangar. Went to Mcdona lds and got some coffee and drove home. > > God is good! > > Keep building, it=99s worth it!!! > > Douwe > > > > > www.aeroelectric.com > www.buildersbooks.com > www.homebuilthelp.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:42:42 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Missing Conversation... From: "K5YAC" On several occasions I've noticed that people are replying to comments made by others that aren't being posted to the web version... makes it clear to me that I am missing large parts of conversations at times. As an example, in this thread it is clear that Ray is responding to a comment that Gary made in reference to Douwe's most recent report. http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=93484&sid=050cc831f5c323faf06269b797dca07c But there is no sign of Gary's comment on Douwe's thread... http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=93478 There could be an easy answer to this, but I'm just wondering, where are these conversations taking place? Via e-mail? If so, why would the e-mail be received by the group, but the text not be displayed on the web list? I mean, there appear to be others that use e-mail to communicate and their text is on the web (i.e. Ray received Gary's text, which doesn't appear on the web, yet Ray's response IS on the web). I'm wondering how I can see all of the conversation without having to constantly check or participate via e-mail? -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386705#386705 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:56:59 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Missing Conversation... Maybe we have to "Reply to all" on this forum so everyone can see it? I have just been hitting "Reply". Maybe Matt could respond. Ray Sent from my iPad On Nov 3, 2012, at 9:42 PM, "K5YAC" wrote: > > On several occasions I've noticed that people are replying to comments made by others that aren't being posted to the web version... makes it clear to me that I am missing large parts of conversations at times. > > As an example, in this thread it is clear that Ray is responding to a comment that Gary made in reference to Douwe's most recent report. > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=93484&sid=050cc831f5c323faf06269b797dca07c > > But there is no sign of Gary's comment on Douwe's thread... > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=93478 > > There could be an easy answer to this, but I'm just wondering, where are these conversations taking place? Via e-mail? If so, why would the e-mail be received by the group, but the text not be displayed on the web list? I mean, there appear to be others that use e-mail to communicate and their text is on the web (i.e. Ray received Gary's text, which doesn't appear on the web, yet Ray's response IS on the web). I'm wondering how I can see all of the conversation without having to constantly check or participate via e-mail? > > -------- > Mark Chouinard > Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386705#386705 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:08:25 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Missing Conversation... From: "K5YAC" Your text posted fine Ray. 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