---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/10/12: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:09 AM - Please Support The Lists... (Matt Dralle) 1. 05:53 AM - Re: GPS and Charts (woodflier@aol.com) 2. 09:56 AM - smoke systems (taildrags) 3. 11:23 AM - Re: smoke systems (Jack Phillips) 4. 12:29 PM - Re: smoke systems (taildrags) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:15 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Please Support The Lists... Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Please make your Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:58 AM PST US From: "woodflier@aol.com" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: GPS and Charts I second Ja k Phillips on the belt and suspenders approach. Using a sectional in a Piet cockpit requires some forethought. You need to fold it before you fly so that you can sort of unroll it as you go. Trying to refold one with all the wind in the cockpit is pretty impossible. The trip-tics work great on a kneeboard. But, if you have to divert for weather, like I did last summer flying to Brodhead, you may end up flying off the trip-tics you prepared. I had an old Garmin 90 as backup, and sectionals which I refolded for each new leg of the trip. It worked ok and I was glad to have the GPS along. Good thing about it was it used AA batteries and ran about 12 hours on 4 of them. Wish the screen wasn't half shot. Matt Paxton NX629ML Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:07 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: smoke systems From: "taildrags" I was wondering if I was the only one who had experienced the oil-mist mess. I have only run my smoke system once, on the ground, and not in final configuration. I ran it with baby oil and it made big, beautiful streams of smoke out the starboard exhaust stack but then left a fine mist of baby oil on the side, tail, and belly of the airplane and left the grass under the airplane well oiled ;o) I figured that in flight, the slipstream would take the smoke away quicker but maybe there is just no way to avoid some oil if you're gonna smoke. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387514#387514 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:54 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: smoke systems I've learned through experience to not run my smoke system on the ground - it just messes up the airplane. If I do it in flight, I get a little oil on the right landing gear, but that's about it. I run used automatic transmission fluid in my smoke system. Smokes as well as baby oil but considerably cheaper (it's free - just go to any transmision shop and they are happy to give the stuff away). Just be sure to strain it before pouring it in your tank - my system is clogged right now and I need to pull it apart and clean out the junk. I forgot to strain it the last time I re-filled it. Beautiful day to fly today. I flew the Pietenpol over to New London, looking for Matt Paxton, but missed him. 68 degrees, 50+ miles visibility, glass smooth air and no wind. It just doesn't get any better than that in November. Then I took the RV-4 up and did some (for me) hard aerobatics - loops, aileron rolls and hammerheads. Great little airplane. People are always asking me which is my favorite, and I usually answer "whichever one I'm flying at the moment". Now back to work on building the house. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of taildrags Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 12:56 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: smoke systems I was wondering if I was the only one who had experienced the oil-mist mess. I have only run my smoke system once, on the ground, and not in final configuration. I ran it with baby oil and it made big, beautiful streams of smoke out the starboard exhaust stack but then left a fine mist of baby oil on the side, tail, and belly of the airplane and left the grass under the airplane well oiled ;o) I figured that in flight, the slipstream would take the smoke away quicker but maybe there is just no way to avoid some oil if you're gonna smoke. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387514#387514 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:58 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: smoke systems From: "taildrags" Jack; the baby oil was just for my trial run because it was easy to get and handy. After you posted about the transmission fluid sometime ago, I inquired at the place where I used to work (they do automotive research) and was rewarded with a 5 gallon container of fresh transmission fluid. They draw test samples from the batch and the rest gets recycled. I will recycle it through my smoke system ;o) Thanks for reminding me what that container of oil was for. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387518#387518 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.