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0. 12:09 AM - What's Your Contribution Used For? (Matt Dralle)
1. 04:21 AM - Re: aluminum for eyebrows (Jack Phillips)
2. 04:28 AM - eyebrow template (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 05:47 AM - Re: Fish Scale results (Gary Boothe)
4. 05:55 AM - Re: Fish Scale results (Dan Yocum)
5. 06:32 AM - Re: (TOM STINEMETZE)
6. 07:29 AM - composite cooling eyebrows (Douwe Blumberg)
7. 08:03 AM - Re: composite cooling eyebrows (Gene Rambo)
8. 08:41 AM - Re: composite cooling eyebrows (TOM STINEMETZE)
9. 09:48 AM - Hey Veterans: Thanks!! (Mark Roberts)
10. 12:30 PM - Re: Hey Veterans: Thanks!! (Greg Bacon)
11. 02:57 PM - Re: composite cooling eyebrows (Gene Rambo)
12. 03:36 PM - Re: Hey Veterans: Thanks!! (Ryan Mueller)
13. 04:12 PM - a little slow on reporting (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
14. 04:47 PM - Re: Hey Veterans: Thanks!! (jarheadpilot82)
15. 06:09 PM - Re: Fish Scale results (Gene Rambo)
16. 07:09 PM - Re: eyebrow template (taildrags)
17. 07:40 PM - Re: composite cooling eyebrows (taildrags)
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| Subject: | What's Your Contribution Used For? |
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| Subject: | aluminum for eyebrows |
Douwe,
I first used dead soft 3003. after those cracked numerous times, I went
to
=BC hard 5052, which doesn=92t look as nice but has held up much better.
I got
all my material from ACS.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 4:55 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: aluminum for eyebrows
Jack and all who used dead soft aluminum 5052.
Where did you get it?? ACS only carries =BC hard
Douwe
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| Subject: | eyebrow template |
Oscar, thanks for the offer!
I was just leaving with template material this morning to start.
I think you're won't work because I am going to have to devise something
tricky to mount them to the engine without having to cut my cowling, which I
don't want to do.
I didn't get an attachment to Gene's post about straightening fish scales.
what happened??
Douwe
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| Subject: | Fish Scale results |
Speaking of fish.something smells fishy, here! I think the static pull test
went just fine, and Gene is emptying all the water from his radiator for
disassembly.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:26 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fish Scale results
Here is what happens when you straighten out the hooks on a spring scale!
Gene Rambo
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fish Scale results
From: helspersew@aol.com
The silence is deafening.........
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Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Re: Fish Scale results |
He's messin' with us. Trying to garner sympathy 'cause the "mean man"
took his paint scheme. The big cry-baby. Let me call the waaaaaahbulance.
The picture was taken on Nov 4, a few days before the Official Bernard
Pietenpol Fish Scale even arrived at the Rambo Aerocraft Werks...
;-)
You're busted, Rambo!
So, what's she pulling?
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: tenpol-List: |
Hey Captain Sky Scout. Where is my secrete decoder ring? I sent in all my Wheaties
box tops.
Stinemetze
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>>> "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> 11/11/2012 3:47 PM >>>
Got some new shots which I thought I'd share, just in case everybody hasn't
seen or heard enough from me already...
Thanks Bob the beautiful flying shot!
Fashioning cooling eyebrows this week... You guys were right.
Douwe
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| Subject: | composite cooling eyebrows |
Any reason one couldn't make cooling eyebrows out of carbon fiber and use
steel brackets for attaching to the hot surfaces? Isn't carbon fiber
significantly more resistant to cracking or am I wrong here?
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: composite cooling eyebrows |
Bernie didn't use it!
Gene Rambo
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:30 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> Any reason one couldn=99t make cooling eyebrows out of carbon fiber a
nd use steel brackets for attaching to the hot surfaces? Isn=99t carb
on fiber significantly more resistant to cracking or am I wrong here?
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> Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: composite cooling eyebrows |
Gene:
As I heard it, "Bernie" also did not use seat belts - they certainly
are not shown in the plans. (You can take this "build to the plans"
thing just a little too far. )
By the way, I also believe he preferred Bernard and did not
particularly care to be called Bernie. 8^) Probably one of those kid
names that his mom called him that he could not shake.
Stinemetze
N328Xray
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>>> Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> 11/12/2012 10:03 AM >>>
Bernie didn't use it!
Gene Rambo
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:30 AM, "Douwe Blumberg"
<douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote:
Any reason one couldnt make cooling eyebrows out of carbon fiber and
use steel brackets for attaching to the hot surfaces? Isnt carbon
fiber significantly more resistant to cracking or am I wrong here?
Douwe
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| Subject: | Hey Veterans: Thanks!! |
Today we pause in the USA to remember and thank our veterans of the services.
Many of you paid with years of your life. Thanks.
Some of you paid with scars you still carry, both on the outside, and on the inside.
Many thanks.
You are the remnant of what has made this country great.
God bless you today, and for the holiday season to come.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387696#387696
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| Subject: | Re: Hey Veterans: Thanks!! |
FYI - Sport Clips gives free hair cuts to vets today!
Greg Bacon
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On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>wrote:
> mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
>
> Today we pause in the USA to remember and thank our veterans of the
> services.
>
> Many of you paid with years of your life. Thanks.
>
> Some of you paid with scars you still carry, both on the outside, and on
> the inside. Many thanks.
>
> You are the remnant of what has made this country great.
>
> God bless you today, and for the holiday season to come.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387696#387696
>
>
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Greg Bacon
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| Subject: | composite cooling eyebrows |
ever heard of sarcasm=2C Tommie??
> Date: Mon=2C 12 Nov 2012 10:39:17 -0600
> From: TOMS@mcpcity.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: composite cooling eyebrows
>
>
> Gene:
>
> As I heard it=2C "Bernie" also did not use seat belts - they certainly
> are not shown in the plans. (You can take this "build to the plans"
> thing just a little too far. )
>
> By the way=2C I also believe he preferred Bernard and did not
> particularly care to be called Bernie. 8^) Probably one of those kid
> names that his mom called him that he could not shake.
>
> Stinemetze
> N328Xray
> do not archive
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> >>> Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> 11/12/2012 10:03 AM >>>
> Bernie didn't use it!
>
> Gene Rambo
>
> On Nov 12=2C 2012=2C at 10:30 AM=2C "Douwe Blumberg"
> <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
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>
> Any reason one couldn=92t make cooling eyebrows out of carbon fiber and
> use steel brackets for attaching to the hot surfaces? Isn=92t carbon
> fiber significantly more resistant to cracking or am I wrong here?
>
> Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Hey Veterans: Thanks!! |
Nitpicky, I suppose, but yesterday is when we paused.....today is just the
day you can't do any banking or get mail....although, apparently you can
get a free haircut, says Greg....
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On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>wrote:
> mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
>
> Today we pause in the USA to remember and thank our veterans of the
> services.
>
> Many of you paid with years of your life. Thanks.
>
> Some of you paid with scars you still carry, both on the outside, and on
> the inside. Many thanks.
>
> You are the remnant of what has made this country great.
>
> God bless you today, and for the holiday season to come.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387696#387696
>
>
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| Subject: | a little slow on reporting |
I recently had a road trip out to the Western part of the state for an
interview, in so doing I had made arrangements to meet up with Fred Kim one of
our newer builders. I got a chance to take a look at his project. Fred is
building with his Dad and they have a great project on the bench and making
serious progress. They've been at it since January 2012 and have a great
looking fuse on the bench.
During the drive out I almost thought we were on our way to see Michael
Cuy, we went what seemed well past Pittsburgh and although Fred said
Pittsburgh it sure seemed like an Ohio trip.
We had a really nice time visiting and grabbed some dinner, Thanks Fred I
enjoyed the meeting, the shop tour and seeing the project, I hope next time
to meet the other half of the build team. Fred, you guys do a remarkable
job, I would encourage any in the area to get in touch with Fred and check
out his project. At the current rate of build you're not going to have much
time to do a shop visit, they'll be flying their Piet real soon, I'm certain
of that.
John
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| Subject: | Re: Hey Veterans: Thanks!! |
Greg,
Although I appreciate the offer, the problem is this-
most of us old veteran's don't have enough hair left to cut! [Wink]
But thanks for the heads up! (No pun intended).
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Fish Scale results |
OK guys=2C you got me=2C I didn't think of the photo date. I thought you c
ould see the prop intact and know it was a scam! This was taken after the
first run and we were draining the water so I could chase water leaks. the
very idea that one could straighten out the steel hooks on the scale was a
nother. I give up=2C you are too smart for me=2C I give up=2C I give up...
. 8)gene
> Date: Mon=2C 12 Nov 2012 07:55:04 -0600
> From: yocum137@gmail.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fish Scale results
>
>
> He's messin' with us. Trying to garner sympathy 'cause the "mean man"
> took his paint scheme. The big cry-baby. Let me call the waaaaaahbulanc
e.
>
> The picture was taken on Nov 4=2C a few days before the Official Bernard
> Pietenpol Fish Scale even arrived at the Rambo Aerocraft Werks...
>
> =3B-)
>
> You're busted=2C Rambo!
>
> So=2C what's she pulling?
>
> Dan
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: eyebrow template |
Douwe;
It's always a good thing when you don't have to rework anything, especially if
you're already flying. In that case "you've gotta dance with who brung you".
As to the fish scale debacle, it was just Mr. Rambo playing with our emotions.
No harm, no foul.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: composite cooling eyebrows |
Not true. As in so many other things, Mr. Pietenpol was also an early pioneer
in the use of composites for homebuilts. In the early 1930s he became aware of
a product called Bakelite that was just being developed. The fibers in Bakelite
were asbestos, so his interest was piqued because it would make the material
fire resistant. He also recognized that the product could be molded on a
form to create curved shapes and he ended up making a cooling air scoop for a
cowled version of the Air Camper with an inverted inline Menasco Pirate on it.
The airplane flew great and the engine cooled great, but he ended up putting
it in a lake after Axel Olsson loosened the nuts holding the wheels to his landing
gear and he had to ditch it.
And if you believe that, I've got a set of fish scales with straightened hooks
that you can borrow, too...
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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