---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/12/12: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:09 AM - What's Your Contribution Used For? (Matt Dralle) 1. 04:21 AM - Re: aluminum for eyebrows (Jack Phillips) 2. 04:28 AM - eyebrow template (Douwe Blumberg) 3. 05:47 AM - Re: Fish Scale results (Gary Boothe) 4. 05:55 AM - Re: Fish Scale results (Dan Yocum) 5. 06:32 AM - Re: (TOM STINEMETZE) 6. 07:29 AM - composite cooling eyebrows (Douwe Blumberg) 7. 08:03 AM - Re: composite cooling eyebrows (Gene Rambo) 8. 08:41 AM - Re: composite cooling eyebrows (TOM STINEMETZE) 9. 09:48 AM - Hey Veterans: Thanks!! (Mark Roberts) 10. 12:30 PM - Re: Hey Veterans: Thanks!! (Greg Bacon) 11. 02:57 PM - Re: composite cooling eyebrows (Gene Rambo) 12. 03:36 PM - Re: Hey Veterans: Thanks!! (Ryan Mueller) 13. 04:12 PM - a little slow on reporting (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 14. 04:47 PM - Re: Hey Veterans: Thanks!! (jarheadpilot82) 15. 06:09 PM - Re: Fish Scale results (Gene Rambo) 16. 07:09 PM - Re: eyebrow template (taildrags) 17. 07:40 PM - Re: composite cooling eyebrows (taildrags) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:37 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: What's Your Contribution Used For? Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and the Web Forums. 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Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:21:42 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: aluminum for eyebrows Douwe, I first used dead soft 3003. after those cracked numerous times, I went to =BC hard 5052, which doesn=92t look as nice but has held up much better. I got all my material from ACS. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 4:55 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: aluminum for eyebrows Jack and all who used dead soft aluminum 5052. Where did you get it?? ACS only carries =BC hard Douwe ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:28:51 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: eyebrow template Oscar, thanks for the offer! I was just leaving with template material this morning to start. I think you're won't work because I am going to have to devise something tricky to mount them to the engine without having to cut my cowling, which I don't want to do. I didn't get an attachment to Gene's post about straightening fish scales. what happened?? Douwe ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:24 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fish Scale results Speaking of fish.something smells fishy, here! I think the static pull test went just fine, and Gene is emptying all the water from his radiator for disassembly. Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fish Scale results Here is what happens when you straighten out the hooks on a spring scale! Gene Rambo _____ Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fish Scale results From: helspersew@aol.com The silence is deafening......... Dan Helsper Puryear, TN _blank">www.aeroelectric.com " target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:21 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fish Scale results He's messin' with us. Trying to garner sympathy 'cause the "mean man" took his paint scheme. The big cry-baby. Let me call the waaaaaahbulance. The picture was taken on Nov 4, a few days before the Official Bernard Pietenpol Fish Scale even arrived at the Rambo Aerocraft Werks... ;-) You're busted, Rambo! So, what's she pulling? Dan do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:19 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hey Captain Sky Scout. Where is my secrete decoder ring? I sent in all my Wheaties box tops. Stinemetze do not archive >>> "Douwe Blumberg" 11/11/2012 3:47 PM >>> Got some new shots which I thought I'd share, just in case everybody hasn't seen or heard enough from me already... Thanks Bob the beautiful flying shot! Fashioning cooling eyebrows this week... You guys were right. Douwe ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:58 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: composite cooling eyebrows Any reason one couldn't make cooling eyebrows out of carbon fiber and use steel brackets for attaching to the hot surfaces? Isn't carbon fiber significantly more resistant to cracking or am I wrong here? Douwe ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:50 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: composite cooling eyebrows From: Gene Rambo Bernie didn't use it! Gene Rambo On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:30 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" wrote: > Any reason one couldn=99t make cooling eyebrows out of carbon fiber a nd use steel brackets for attaching to the hot surfaces? Isn=99t carb on fiber significantly more resistant to cracking or am I wrong here? > > Douwe > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:01 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: composite cooling eyebrows Gene: As I heard it, "Bernie" also did not use seat belts - they certainly are not shown in the plans. (You can take this "build to the plans" thing just a little too far. ) By the way, I also believe he preferred Bernard and did not particularly care to be called Bernie. 8^) Probably one of those kid names that his mom called him that he could not shake. Stinemetze N328Xray do not archive >>> Gene Rambo 11/12/2012 10:03 AM >>> Bernie didn't use it! Gene Rambo On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:30 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" wrote: Any reason one couldnt make cooling eyebrows out of carbon fiber and use steel brackets for attaching to the hot surfaces? Isnt carbon fiber significantly more resistant to cracking or am I wrong here? Douwe ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:48:02 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hey Veterans: Thanks!! From: "Mark Roberts" Today we pause in the USA to remember and thank our veterans of the services. Many of you paid with years of your life. Thanks. Some of you paid with scars you still carry, both on the outside, and on the inside. Many thanks. You are the remnant of what has made this country great. God bless you today, and for the holiday season to come. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387696#387696 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:30:13 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hey Veterans: Thanks!! From: Greg Bacon FYI - Sport Clips gives free hair cuts to vets today! Greg Bacon do not archive On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> > > Today we pause in the USA to remember and thank our veterans of the > services. > > Many of you paid with years of your life. Thanks. > > Some of you paid with scars you still carry, both on the outside, and on > the inside. Many thanks. > > You are the remnant of what has made this country great. > > God bless you today, and for the holiday season to come. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387696#387696 > > -- Greg Bacon ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:57:59 PM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: composite cooling eyebrows ever heard of sarcasm=2C Tommie?? > Date: Mon=2C 12 Nov 2012 10:39:17 -0600 > From: TOMS@mcpcity.com > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: composite cooling eyebrows > > > Gene: > > As I heard it=2C "Bernie" also did not use seat belts - they certainly > are not shown in the plans. (You can take this "build to the plans" > thing just a little too far. ) > > By the way=2C I also believe he preferred Bernard and did not > particularly care to be called Bernie. 8^) Probably one of those kid > names that his mom called him that he could not shake. > > Stinemetze > N328Xray > do not archive > > >>> Gene Rambo 11/12/2012 10:03 AM >>> > Bernie didn't use it! > > Gene Rambo > > On Nov 12=2C 2012=2C at 10:30 AM=2C "Douwe Blumberg" > wrote: > > > > > Any reason one couldn=92t make cooling eyebrows out of carbon fiber and > use steel brackets for attaching to the hot surfaces? Isn=92t carbon > fiber significantly more resistant to cracking or am I wrong here? > > Douwe > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:36:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hey Veterans: Thanks!! From: Ryan Mueller Nitpicky, I suppose, but yesterday is when we paused.....today is just the day you can't do any banking or get mail....although, apparently you can get a free haircut, says Greg.... do not archive On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> > > Today we pause in the USA to remember and thank our veterans of the > services. > > Many of you paid with years of your life. Thanks. > > Some of you paid with scars you still carry, both on the outside, and on > the inside. Many thanks. > > You are the remnant of what has made this country great. > > God bless you today, and for the holiday season to come. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387696#387696 > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:11 PM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: a little slow on reporting I recently had a road trip out to the Western part of the state for an interview, in so doing I had made arrangements to meet up with Fred Kim one of our newer builders. I got a chance to take a look at his project. Fred is building with his Dad and they have a great project on the bench and making serious progress. They've been at it since January 2012 and have a great looking fuse on the bench. During the drive out I almost thought we were on our way to see Michael Cuy, we went what seemed well past Pittsburgh and although Fred said Pittsburgh it sure seemed like an Ohio trip. We had a really nice time visiting and grabbed some dinner, Thanks Fred I enjoyed the meeting, the shop tour and seeing the project, I hope next time to meet the other half of the build team. Fred, you guys do a remarkable job, I would encourage any in the area to get in touch with Fred and check out his project. At the current rate of build you're not going to have much time to do a shop visit, they'll be flying their Piet real soon, I'm certain of that. John ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:47:29 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hey Veterans: Thanks!! From: "jarheadpilot82" Greg, Although I appreciate the offer, the problem is this- most of us old veteran's don't have enough hair left to cut! [Wink] But thanks for the heads up! (No pun intended). -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387717#387717 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:03 PM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fish Scale results OK guys=2C you got me=2C I didn't think of the photo date. I thought you c ould see the prop intact and know it was a scam! This was taken after the first run and we were draining the water so I could chase water leaks. the very idea that one could straighten out the steel hooks on the scale was a nother. I give up=2C you are too smart for me=2C I give up=2C I give up... . 8)gene > Date: Mon=2C 12 Nov 2012 07:55:04 -0600 > From: yocum137@gmail.com > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fish Scale results > > > He's messin' with us. Trying to garner sympathy 'cause the "mean man" > took his paint scheme. The big cry-baby. Let me call the waaaaaahbulanc e. > > The picture was taken on Nov 4=2C a few days before the Official Bernard > Pietenpol Fish Scale even arrived at the Rambo Aerocraft Werks... > > =3B-) > > You're busted=2C Rambo! > > So=2C what's she pulling? > > Dan > > do not archive > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:13 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: eyebrow template From: "taildrags" Douwe; It's always a good thing when you don't have to rework anything, especially if you're already flying. In that case "you've gotta dance with who brung you". As to the fish scale debacle, it was just Mr. Rambo playing with our emotions. No harm, no foul. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387735#387735 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:40:12 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: composite cooling eyebrows From: "taildrags" Not true. As in so many other things, Mr. Pietenpol was also an early pioneer in the use of composites for homebuilts. In the early 1930s he became aware of a product called Bakelite that was just being developed. The fibers in Bakelite were asbestos, so his interest was piqued because it would make the material fire resistant. He also recognized that the product could be molded on a form to create curved shapes and he ended up making a cooling air scoop for a cowled version of the Air Camper with an inverted inline Menasco Pirate on it. The airplane flew great and the engine cooled great, but he ended up putting it in a lake after Axel Olsson loosened the nuts holding the wheels to his landing gear and he had to ditch it. And if you believe that, I've got a set of fish scales with straightened hooks that you can borrow, too... do not archive -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387737#387737 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.