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     1. 06:56 AM - Re: moving Scout (C N Campbell)
     2. 07:13 AM - Re: moving Scout (Gary Boothe)
     3. 07:30 AM - Re: moving Scout (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
     4. 08:57 AM - Re: Vi's Piet (dwilson)
     5. 12:29 PM - Re: moving Scout (Isablcorky@aol.com)
     6. 10:21 PM - Re: moving Scout (taildrags)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: moving Scout | 
      
      
      Oscar, If you have a chance tonight after you get to where ever you're 
      going, will you answer a couple of questions?  I possibly will need to move 
      my Piet project soon (possibly about 75 miles).  What size van did you use? 
      I assume you rented it.  If so, from whom?  Would I have access to the same 
      company in North Carolina?  Did you have to fasten the wheel chocks to the 
      floor of the van?  If so how?  If you screwed or nailed them down, do you 
      think the people who own the van would object to holes in the floor?  I 
      guess that is about all the questions I can think of right now.  Thanks, 
      Chuck
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:33 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout
      
      
      >
      > Well, I'm shocked and surprised that Steve Dortch hasn't posted anything 
      > to the list bragging about how he played a big part in removing the wings, 
      > struts, and brace cables from Scout, or about how he directed the loading 
      > and securing of the fuselage in the back of the van, or about how he 
      > regaled the assembled crowds with stories of flying his dancing V-tail 
      > Bonanza.
      >
      > He should, because all of that is true.
      >
      > Steve: thank you from the bottom of my heart for being such a warm, 
      > personable, and enthusiastic pilot, Pieter, and friend.  I'm writing this 
      > from the Quality Inn in Gallup, NM (almost 1000 mi. into my trip) and when 
      > I checked just before retiring to my room for the night, it almost appears 
      > that not even a molecule of dust in the back of the van has shifted one 
      > millimeter since I drove away from the hangar at 4PM on Saturday 
      > afternoon.  You fellows did an exemplary job, and Scout and I will 
      > appreciate it for as long as we're around to remember.
      >
      > Couple of pictures attached.  Steve and one of his kids are the ones up in 
      > the box guiding Scout into the the van after we lifted the airplane up by 
      > its mains using the nifty lift on the back.  Highly recommended way to do 
      > it!
      >
      > --------
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > Medford, OR
      > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      > A75 power
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388237#388237
      >
      >
      > Attachments:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet2_549.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet_624.jpg
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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      Chuck,
      
      I'm sure Oscar can provide a much more detailed response, but here are some
      pics of my move last Summer. My rolling wing rack anchored to the side of
      the van, as did the r. wheel. Chocks were merely tied to each other so they
      wouldn't shift, and no need to attach to the floor. When you go to any
      rental place, or view their web site, the will list the dimensions of the
      van's box. Be aware that the 'height' is at the box ceiling, not at the
      door! It's fairly important to get thru the door first! ;-) By letting
      almost all the air out of my tires, I just barely made it!
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of C N Campbell
      Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 6:57 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout
      
      --> <cncampbell@windstream.net>
      
      Oscar, If you have a chance tonight after you get to where ever you're
      going, will you answer a couple of questions?  I possibly will need to move
      my Piet project soon (possibly about 75 miles).  What size van did you use? 
      I assume you rented it.  If so, from whom?  Would I have access to the same
      company in North Carolina?  Did you have to fasten the wheel chocks to the
      floor of the van?  If so how?  If you screwed or nailed them down, do you
      think the people who own the van would object to holes in the floor?  I
      guess that is about all the questions I can think of right now.  Thanks,
      Chuck
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:33 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout
      
      
      >
      > Well, I'm shocked and surprised that Steve Dortch hasn't posted anything 
      > to the list bragging about how he played a big part in removing the wings,
      
      > struts, and brace cables from Scout, or about how he directed the loading 
      > and securing of the fuselage in the back of the van, or about how he 
      > regaled the assembled crowds with stories of flying his dancing V-tail 
      > Bonanza.
      >
      > He should, because all of that is true.
      >
      > Steve: thank you from the bottom of my heart for being such a warm, 
      > personable, and enthusiastic pilot, Pieter, and friend.  I'm writing this 
      > from the Quality Inn in Gallup, NM (almost 1000 mi. into my trip) and when
      
      > I checked just before retiring to my room for the night, it almost appears
      
      > that not even a molecule of dust in the back of the van has shifted one 
      > millimeter since I drove away from the hangar at 4PM on Saturday 
      > afternoon.  You fellows did an exemplary job, and Scout and I will 
      > appreciate it for as long as we're around to remember.
      >
      > Couple of pictures attached.  Steve and one of his kids are the ones up in
      
      > the box guiding Scout into the the van after we lifted the airplane up by 
      > its mains using the nifty lift on the back.  Highly recommended way to do 
      > it!
      >
      > --------
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > Medford, OR
      > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      > A75 power
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388237#388237
      >
      >
      > Attachments:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet2_549.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet_624.jpg
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: moving Scout | 
      
      
      Steve Dortch here, Aircraft mover services. Oscar actually had an opininated old
      fellow there who had moved many airplanes. He had some great techiniques.
      
      First, He used an old tow strap. Heavy duty. We used pretty good sized screws with
      washers. The screw/washer was run directly through the cloth on the tow strap
      and into the wood floor. They ran from the floor, up over the bottom part
      of the main landing gear, just inside the axle and back down to the floor. On
      the tailwheel, it ran from the floor was wrapped around the spring on the tailwheel
      close to the wheel and screwed into the floor. One strap did all three wheels
      without cutting it. 
      
      On the mains there was a 2x4 on edge on each side of each main wheel. a pretty
      good sized (6x6) chock was wedged behind the main wheel and screwed in. The screws
      were put in at an angle. After everything was secured the front (6x6) chock
      was firmly pushed into place and screwed in.  This allowed the aircraft suspension
      to flex some and yet the fuselage was secure. 
      
      NOTE, make sure people don't rush. Some of the guys were wanting to hurry and has
      some slightly unsatisfactory ideas on what to do. One guy wanted to pick the
      plane up by hand and put it in that way. Oscar nixed that idea and using the
      powered rear ramp that went up helped a lot.  The most nervious time was people
      pushing and pulling the plane on the truck loading ramp. I sure was worried
      about scratching his pretty propellor. 
      
      Blue Skies,
      Steve D
      
      My boy is sure upset that he did not get to fly in Scout. (He is a "Wing Nut")
      
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: C N Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout
      
      
      > 
      > Oscar, If you have a chance tonight after you get to where ever you're going,
      will you answer a couple of questions?  I possibly will need to move 
      > my Piet project soon (possibly about 75 miles).  What size van did 
      > you use? I assume you rented it.  If so, from whom?  Would I have 
      > access to the same company in North Carolina?  Did you have to 
      > fasten the wheel chocks to the floor of the van?  If so how?  If 
      > you screwed or nailed them down, do you think the people who own 
      > the van would object to holes in the floor?  I guess that is about 
      > all the questions I can think of right now.  Thanks, Chuck
      > 
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "taildrags" <
      > To: <
      > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:33 AM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout
      > 
      > 
      > >
      > >Well, I'm shocked and surprised that Steve Dortch hasn't posted anything to
      the list bragging about how he played a big part in removing the wings, struts,
      and brace cables from Scout, or about how he directed the loading and securing
      of the fuselage in the back of the van, or about how he regaled the assembled
      crowds with stories of flying his dancing V-tail Bonanza.
      > >
      > >He should, because all of that is true.
      > >
      > >Steve: thank you from the bottom of my heart for being such a warm, personable,
      and enthusiastic pilot, Pieter, and friend.  I'm writing this from the Quality
      Inn in Gallup, NM (almost 1000 mi. into my trip) and when I checked just
      before retiring to my room for the night, it almost appears that not even a molecule
      of dust in the back of the van has shifted one millimeter since I drove
      away from the hangar at 4PM on Saturday afternoon.  You fellows did an exemplary
      job, and Scout and I will appreciate it for as long as we're around to remember.
      > >
      > >Couple of pictures attached.  Steve and one of his kids are the ones up in the
      box guiding Scout into the the van after we lifted the airplane up by its mains
      using the nifty lift on the back.  Highly recommended way to do it!
      > >
      > >--------
      > >Oscar Zuniga
      > >Medford, OR
      > >Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      > >A75 power
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >Read this topic online here:
      > >
      > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388237#388237
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >Attachments:
      > >
      > >http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet2_549.jpg
      > >http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet_624.jpg
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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      He plans to fly again this week one day.  If he calls I will drive over and get
      a couple of photo's to post.  
      
      Dan
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388336#388336
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: moving Scout | 
      
      
      In a message dated 11/19/2012 9:14:24 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
      gboothe5@comcast.net writes:
      
      Chuck,
      
      I'm sure Oscar can provide a much more detailed  response, but here are some
      pics of my move last Summer. My rolling wing  rack anchored to the side of
      the van, as did the r. wheel. Chocks were  merely tied to each other so they
      wouldn't shift, and no need to attach to  the floor. When you go to any
      rental place, or view their web site, the  will list the dimensions of the
      van's box. Be aware that the 'height' is at  the box ceiling, not at the
      door! It's fairly important to get thru the  door first! ;-) By letting
      almost all the air out of my tires, I just  barely made it!
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
      
      -----Original  Message-----
      From:  owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]  On Behalf Of C N 
      Campbell
      Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 6:57 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: moving  Scout
      
      --> <cncampbell@windstream.net>
      
      Oscar, If you have a  chance tonight after you get to where ever you're
      going, will you answer a  couple of questions?  I possibly will need to move
      my Piet project  soon (possibly about 75 miles).  What size van did you 
      use? 
      I assume  you rented it.  If so, from whom?  Would I have access to the  
      same
      company in North Carolina?  Did you have to fasten the wheel  chocks to the
      floor of the van?  If so how?  If you screwed or  nailed them down, do you
      think the people who own the van would object to  holes in the floor?  I
      guess that is about all the questions I can  think of right now.  Thanks,
      Chuck
      
      ----- Original Message  -----
      From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:33  AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout
      
      
      > -->  Pietenpol-List message posted by: "taildrags"  
      <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      >
      > Well, I'm shocked and surprised  that Steve Dortch hasn't posted anything 
      > to the list bragging about  how he played a big part in removing the 
      wings,
      
      > struts, and brace  cables from Scout, or about how he directed the 
      loading 
      > and securing  of the fuselage in the back of the van, or about how he 
      > regaled the  assembled crowds with stories of flying his dancing V-tail 
      >  Bonanza.
      >
      > He should, because all of that is  true.
      >
      > Steve: thank you from the bottom of my heart for being  such a warm, 
      > personable, and enthusiastic pilot, Pieter, and  friend.  I'm writing 
      this 
      > from the Quality Inn in Gallup, NM  (almost 1000 mi. into my trip) and 
      when
      
      > I checked just before  retiring to my room for the night, it almost 
      appears
      
      > that not even  a molecule of dust in the back of the van has shifted one 
      > millimeter  since I drove away from the hangar at 4PM on Saturday 
      >  afternoon.  You fellows did an exemplary job, and Scout and I will  
      > appreciate it for as long as we're around to  remember.
      >
      > Couple of pictures attached.  Steve and one of  his kids are the ones up 
      in
      
      > the box guiding Scout into the the van  after we lifted the airplane up 
      by 
      > its mains using the nifty lift on  the back.  Highly recommended way to 
      do 
      > it!
      >
      >  --------
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > Medford, OR
      > Air Camper NX41CC  "Scout"
      > A75  power
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online  here:
      >
      >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388237#388237
      >
      >
      >  Attachments:
      >
      >  http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet2_549.jpg
      >  http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet_624.jpg
      >
      >
      >  
      
      
      Oscar,
      Why didn't you let me know you wanted the Piet in Oregon as I would have  
      been happy to have flown it there for you. It would have given me the  
      opportunity to view our beautiful snowie west. Always wanted to fly that leg  from
      
      Santa Fe-Durango-Salt LakeCity in a Piet.You just want all the fun for  
      yourself
      Corky
      
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| Subject:  | Re: moving Scout | 
      
      
      Corky: I'm sorry I didn't mention that I wanted the plane moved.  Next time, I
      will.  Oh, by the way: my wife has been telling me that she would like to see
      the Inca ruins at Machu Picchu.  When can you have the airplane down there so
      I can fly her over the ruins?
      
      ;o)
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388385#388385
      
      
 
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