---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/19/12: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:13 AM - Reminder (Matt Dralle) 1. 06:56 AM - Re: moving Scout (C N Campbell) 2. 07:13 AM - Re: moving Scout (Gary Boothe) 3. 07:30 AM - Re: moving Scout (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB) 4. 08:57 AM - Re: Vi's Piet (dwilson) 5. 12:29 PM - Re: moving Scout (Isablcorky@aol.com) 6. 10:21 PM - Re: moving Scout (taildrags) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:13:35 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Reminder Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. 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What size van did you use? I assume you rented it. If so, from whom? Would I have access to the same company in North Carolina? Did you have to fasten the wheel chocks to the floor of the van? If so how? If you screwed or nailed them down, do you think the people who own the van would object to holes in the floor? I guess that is about all the questions I can think of right now. Thanks, Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "taildrags" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:33 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout > > Well, I'm shocked and surprised that Steve Dortch hasn't posted anything > to the list bragging about how he played a big part in removing the wings, > struts, and brace cables from Scout, or about how he directed the loading > and securing of the fuselage in the back of the van, or about how he > regaled the assembled crowds with stories of flying his dancing V-tail > Bonanza. > > He should, because all of that is true. > > Steve: thank you from the bottom of my heart for being such a warm, > personable, and enthusiastic pilot, Pieter, and friend. I'm writing this > from the Quality Inn in Gallup, NM (almost 1000 mi. into my trip) and when > I checked just before retiring to my room for the night, it almost appears > that not even a molecule of dust in the back of the van has shifted one > millimeter since I drove away from the hangar at 4PM on Saturday > afternoon. You fellows did an exemplary job, and Scout and I will > appreciate it for as long as we're around to remember. > > Couple of pictures attached. Steve and one of his kids are the ones up in > the box guiding Scout into the the van after we lifted the airplane up by > its mains using the nifty lift on the back. Highly recommended way to do > it! > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388237#388237 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet2_549.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet_624.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:33 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout Chuck, I'm sure Oscar can provide a much more detailed response, but here are some pics of my move last Summer. My rolling wing rack anchored to the side of the van, as did the r. wheel. Chocks were merely tied to each other so they wouldn't shift, and no need to attach to the floor. When you go to any rental place, or view their web site, the will list the dimensions of the van's box. Be aware that the 'height' is at the box ceiling, not at the door! It's fairly important to get thru the door first! ;-) By letting almost all the air out of my tires, I just barely made it! Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of C N Campbell Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 6:57 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout --> Oscar, If you have a chance tonight after you get to where ever you're going, will you answer a couple of questions? I possibly will need to move my Piet project soon (possibly about 75 miles). What size van did you use? I assume you rented it. If so, from whom? Would I have access to the same company in North Carolina? Did you have to fasten the wheel chocks to the floor of the van? If so how? If you screwed or nailed them down, do you think the people who own the van would object to holes in the floor? I guess that is about all the questions I can think of right now. Thanks, Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "taildrags" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:33 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout > > Well, I'm shocked and surprised that Steve Dortch hasn't posted anything > to the list bragging about how he played a big part in removing the wings, > struts, and brace cables from Scout, or about how he directed the loading > and securing of the fuselage in the back of the van, or about how he > regaled the assembled crowds with stories of flying his dancing V-tail > Bonanza. > > He should, because all of that is true. > > Steve: thank you from the bottom of my heart for being such a warm, > personable, and enthusiastic pilot, Pieter, and friend. I'm writing this > from the Quality Inn in Gallup, NM (almost 1000 mi. into my trip) and when > I checked just before retiring to my room for the night, it almost appears > that not even a molecule of dust in the back of the van has shifted one > millimeter since I drove away from the hangar at 4PM on Saturday > afternoon. You fellows did an exemplary job, and Scout and I will > appreciate it for as long as we're around to remember. > > Couple of pictures attached. Steve and one of his kids are the ones up in > the box guiding Scout into the the van after we lifted the airplane up by > its mains using the nifty lift on the back. Highly recommended way to do > it! > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388237#388237 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet2_549.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet_624.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:54 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout Steve Dortch here, Aircraft mover services. Oscar actually had an opininated old fellow there who had moved many airplanes. He had some great techiniques. First, He used an old tow strap. Heavy duty. We used pretty good sized screws with washers. The screw/washer was run directly through the cloth on the tow strap and into the wood floor. They ran from the floor, up over the bottom part of the main landing gear, just inside the axle and back down to the floor. On the tailwheel, it ran from the floor was wrapped around the spring on the tailwheel close to the wheel and screwed into the floor. One strap did all three wheels without cutting it. On the mains there was a 2x4 on edge on each side of each main wheel. a pretty good sized (6x6) chock was wedged behind the main wheel and screwed in. The screws were put in at an angle. After everything was secured the front (6x6) chock was firmly pushed into place and screwed in. This allowed the aircraft suspension to flex some and yet the fuselage was secure. NOTE, make sure people don't rush. Some of the guys were wanting to hurry and has some slightly unsatisfactory ideas on what to do. One guy wanted to pick the plane up by hand and put it in that way. Oscar nixed that idea and using the powered rear ramp that went up helped a lot. The most nervious time was people pushing and pulling the plane on the truck loading ramp. I sure was worried about scratching his pretty propellor. Blue Skies, Steve D My boy is sure upset that he did not get to fly in Scout. (He is a "Wing Nut") ----- Original Message ----- From: C N Campbell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout > > Oscar, If you have a chance tonight after you get to where ever you're going, will you answer a couple of questions? I possibly will need to move > my Piet project soon (possibly about 75 miles). What size van did > you use? I assume you rented it. If so, from whom? Would I have > access to the same company in North Carolina? Did you have to > fasten the wheel chocks to the floor of the van? If so how? If > you screwed or nailed them down, do you think the people who own > the van would object to holes in the floor? I guess that is about > all the questions I can think of right now. Thanks, Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "taildrags" < > To: < > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:33 AM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout > > > > > >Well, I'm shocked and surprised that Steve Dortch hasn't posted anything to the list bragging about how he played a big part in removing the wings, struts, and brace cables from Scout, or about how he directed the loading and securing of the fuselage in the back of the van, or about how he regaled the assembled crowds with stories of flying his dancing V-tail Bonanza. > > > >He should, because all of that is true. > > > >Steve: thank you from the bottom of my heart for being such a warm, personable, and enthusiastic pilot, Pieter, and friend. I'm writing this from the Quality Inn in Gallup, NM (almost 1000 mi. into my trip) and when I checked just before retiring to my room for the night, it almost appears that not even a molecule of dust in the back of the van has shifted one millimeter since I drove away from the hangar at 4PM on Saturday afternoon. You fellows did an exemplary job, and Scout and I will appreciate it for as long as we're around to remember. > > > >Couple of pictures attached. Steve and one of his kids are the ones up in the box guiding Scout into the the van after we lifted the airplane up by its mains using the nifty lift on the back. Highly recommended way to do it! > > > >-------- > >Oscar Zuniga > >Medford, OR > >Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > >A75 power > > > > > > > > > >Read this topic online here: > > > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388237#388237 > > > > > > > > > >Attachments: > > > >http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet2_549.jpg > >http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet_624.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:57:01 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vi's Piet From: "dwilson" He plans to fly again this week one day. If he calls I will drive over and get a couple of photo's to post. Dan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388336#388336 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:04 PM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout In a message dated 11/19/2012 9:14:24 A.M. Central Standard Time, gboothe5@comcast.net writes: Chuck, I'm sure Oscar can provide a much more detailed response, but here are some pics of my move last Summer. My rolling wing rack anchored to the side of the van, as did the r. wheel. Chocks were merely tied to each other so they wouldn't shift, and no need to attach to the floor. When you go to any rental place, or view their web site, the will list the dimensions of the van's box. Be aware that the 'height' is at the box ceiling, not at the door! It's fairly important to get thru the door first! ;-) By letting almost all the air out of my tires, I just barely made it! Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of C N Campbell Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 6:57 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout --> Oscar, If you have a chance tonight after you get to where ever you're going, will you answer a couple of questions? I possibly will need to move my Piet project soon (possibly about 75 miles). What size van did you use? I assume you rented it. If so, from whom? Would I have access to the same company in North Carolina? Did you have to fasten the wheel chocks to the floor of the van? If so how? If you screwed or nailed them down, do you think the people who own the van would object to holes in the floor? I guess that is about all the questions I can think of right now. Thanks, Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "taildrags" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:33 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: moving Scout > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "taildrags" > > Well, I'm shocked and surprised that Steve Dortch hasn't posted anything > to the list bragging about how he played a big part in removing the wings, > struts, and brace cables from Scout, or about how he directed the loading > and securing of the fuselage in the back of the van, or about how he > regaled the assembled crowds with stories of flying his dancing V-tail > Bonanza. > > He should, because all of that is true. > > Steve: thank you from the bottom of my heart for being such a warm, > personable, and enthusiastic pilot, Pieter, and friend. I'm writing this > from the Quality Inn in Gallup, NM (almost 1000 mi. into my trip) and when > I checked just before retiring to my room for the night, it almost appears > that not even a molecule of dust in the back of the van has shifted one > millimeter since I drove away from the hangar at 4PM on Saturday > afternoon. You fellows did an exemplary job, and Scout and I will > appreciate it for as long as we're around to remember. > > Couple of pictures attached. Steve and one of his kids are the ones up in > the box guiding Scout into the the van after we lifted the airplane up by > its mains using the nifty lift on the back. Highly recommended way to do > it! > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388237#388237 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet2_549.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/steve_piet_624.jpg > > > Oscar, Why didn't you let me know you wanted the Piet in Oregon as I would have been happy to have flown it there for you. It would have given me the opportunity to view our beautiful snowie west. Always wanted to fly that leg from Santa Fe-Durango-Salt LakeCity in a Piet.You just want all the fun for yourself Corky ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: moving Scout From: "taildrags" Corky: I'm sorry I didn't mention that I wanted the plane moved. Next time, I will. Oh, by the way: my wife has been telling me that she would like to see the Inca ruins at Machu Picchu. When can you have the airplane down there so I can fly her over the ruins? ;o) -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388385#388385 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.