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0. 12:08 AM - "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser...? (Matt Dralle)
1. 08:23 AM - Wire (Jack)
2. 08:25 AM - Progress (Oscar Zuniga)
3. 08:53 AM - Re: Progress (Gary Boothe)
4. 09:01 AM - Re: Wire (Gary Boothe)
5. 11:36 AM - Re: Progress (Jim Boyer)
6. 01:09 PM - Re: Progress (Bill Church)
7. 02:20 PM - Re: Re: Throttle Cable Routing for Stromberg on A65 (John Egan)
8. 02:26 PM - Re: Progress (kevinpurtee)
9. 02:43 PM - Re: Throttle Cable Routing for Stromberg on A65 (John Egan)
10. 05:37 PM - Re: Throttle Cable Routing for Stromberg on A65 (taildrags)
11. 05:54 PM - Re: moving Scout (taildrags)
12. 06:47 PM - Model A engine Tach (Pietflyer1977)
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| Subject: | "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser...? |
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Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving! I know Tony recommends aircraft cable when
wiring, which I most likely will. Anyone use auto stranded type wire? Ducking
for cover...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
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Kevin=3B
Nice work on the center section! Flying it inverted=2C I see =3Bo) Questi
on: do you intend to put fuel in the center section=2C or will it just be a
baggage locker?
Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 PowerMedford=2C OR hangar T6
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You (and Shelley) are testimony to perseverance!
BTW...I had no idea if my advice would work...just the first thought that
popped into my head.
Gary Boothe (Pietenpol X-wing)
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 12:57 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress
--> <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
What a great way to spend Thanksgiving. BTW: the one piece wing was much
less complicated, though a bear to handle.
Thanks to Gary Boothe for his advice on how to make the thing square.
Thanks to the very kind individual who gave me the ribs.
We ran the engine two weeks ago at Corvair College 24, hosted by PF Beck and
crew in South Carolina. Another kind and exceptionally generous individual
gave me huge chunks of an engine to make that event possible. Thanks to
William Wynne & crew for their efforts prior to the college.
Shelley & I are blessed.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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Jack,
I did not use auto type, but...
Assuming that you are not concerned about the fire resistance of the
insulation on A/C wire...and, assuming that you are not concerned that the
wire you are purchasing is coming from a low bidder in China (in other
words, no quality control)...
My recommendation would be to at least use the A/C connectors, which will
provide better support of the insulation at the connection, where most
failure is likely to occur.
Happy Thanksgiving
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 8:23 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wire
Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving! I know Tony recommends aircraft
cable when wiring, which I most likely will. Anyone use auto stranded type
wire? Ducking for cover...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
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HI Kevin,
Glad to see you have the center section well in hand. I hope to have Gary give
me his wing advice here before long too.
Have you got the fuselage and tail surfaces done already?
Happy Thanksgiving
Jim and Arlene
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Nice progress.
Are you planning to put some padding around the bricks, so your passengers don't
hurt their head?
Or maybe you just like keeping a couple of bricks handy, to throw at people who
ask dumb questions.
BC
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle Cable Routing for Stromberg on A65 |
Thanks Oscar,
I did look at your web site prior to posting my question as you have some
good information for us builders. I looked at the engine on the motor
mount today, and it appears to me that I could use the double Adel clamp
method you describe, as my "X" brace tubing for the motor mount crosses the
path of the throttle cable in about the correct place. I'll plan on fixing
the cable at the tubing in this location.
Thank you,
john e.
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:49 AM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> John: take a look at the last two photos here:
>
> http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/engine/A75.html
>
> This is how Scout is rigged, and the way you describe the routing is
> precisely the way I have it. I'm sorry that the photos don't show where or
> how the cable is secured along the way, but I know that it is secured in at
> least one place and I used the double Adel clamp method that is shown in
> Tony's book. One clamp is on one of the tubes of the engine mount, and
> then a second clamp (bolted to the first) clamps the throttle cable.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388535#388535
>
>
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Hi Oscar - Fuel. I'll do the Gary Boothe treatment on the tank so I can fly longer
than 1:35 before flameout.
Hi Jim - I was able to repair the tail surfaces so they exist. I have not started
the fuselage.
Hi Bill -
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle Cable Routing for Stromberg on A65 |
O.k., so a bowden cable is stiff enough not to kink or flex when actuated
if it's attached some distance away from the carb lever. Sounds good. It's
quite a distance (9 inches maybe) from the carb to above the oil tank. I'd
hate to push on the throtlle lever in the cockpit, and get little response
at the carb... The engine I bought has a "B' nut on the carb lever, so a
bowden cable was used here. My throttle lever inside the cockpit is a
simple pivoting lever like so many Piets have on them, where another "B'
nut can be attached.
By the way builders, the local hardware stores that often have hardware for
sale in those stacks of plastic boxes in trays (True Value, Ace Hardware)
often carry the "B" nuts in one of those trays.
Thanks Michael,
john
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> John, I used a simple bowden cable with machined "B" nuts I made myself.
> (You can also purchase them from ACS.) I made my own throttle lever
> (cockpit control),I can adjust the friction on it to prevent the throttle
> from "creeping" in flight. The cable is attached with said B-nut. The
> cable runs down the left side, exits the firewall and crosses over to the
> right side. The outer casing of the cable is clamped to the engine mount.
> The inner cable passes over the oil tank then down to the carb. throttle
> lever, attached with another B-nut.
>
> Michael Perez
> Pietenpol HINT Videos
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle Cable Routing for Stromberg on A65 |
John;
The throttle bell crank on my Stromberg requires very, very little effort to swing
the butterfly in the throat of the carb. The inner wire of the Bowden should
be plenty stiff to operate the butterfly. *BUT*- that's under normal circumstances.
Thinking about abnormal conditions (or maybe "normal" for Strombergs
a lot of the time), if you have carb ice in the venturi, it may pose significant
resistance to movement of the butterfly in the throat of the carb and if
you tried to operate the throttle against that resistance, your inner wire would
buckle.
The outer jacket of my Bowden cable is secured much closer to the carb than 9";
I believe it's clamped to one of the carb screws using a fabricated tab. Let
me look at it on Saturday and maybe get you a picture. I think you need to run
the outer jacket longer, clamp it closer to the carb, and only have a couple
of inches of inner wire outside the outer jacket.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: moving Scout |
Just one last shot on this thread and I'll move on. Here's a picture of Scout
in the new hangar. Actually, only one hangar door is open in this shot (the Zenith
project is behind the other door). LOTS of Texas hangar dust on the tops
of the wings! I have the new cooling eyebrows to install, a little bit of maintenance
to do here and there before annual condition inspection, and one thing
that I'm going to fix for good is the front seat support. My rudder bar stops
have dislodged the vertical front seat support plywood twice now, breaking
glue joints, so I'm going to put down a crosspiece to secure the bottom of the
support to the plywood floor, glued and screwed.
When wearing bulky shoes or boots while flying, it is almost impossible to fully
deflect the rudder bar without pushing the front seat upright plywood forward.
Anybody else ever had to reattach the lower edge of the front seat plywood?
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Model A engine Tach |
Could anyone tell me what kind of Tach is needed for use with a Model A engine.
Will it need to work clockwise or counter clockwise? Thanks
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