---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/24/12: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:42 AM - Re: Re: Throttle Cable Routing for Stromberg on A65 (Andre Abreu) 2. 07:45 AM - model A tach (Douwe Blumberg) 3. 09:13 AM - Re: Wire (Michael Perez) 4. 09:46 AM - Re: model A tach (Andre Abreu) 5. 11:08 AM - Re: Re: Progress (Jim Boyer) 6. 03:18 PM - Re: Wire (bubbleboy) 7. 03:45 PM - Re: Wire (Jack) 8. 03:56 PM - Wing Spar help? (Pietflyer1977) 9. 04:16 PM - Re: Wing Spar help? (Dale Johnson) 10. 04:37 PM - Re: Wing Spar help? (Gene Rambo) 11. 05:48 PM - Steel Tail (biplan53) 12. 07:31 PM - Re: Wing Spar help? (Gene Rambo) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:24 AM PST US From: Andre Abreu Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Throttle Cable Routing for Stromberg on A65 I take tons of pictures when I do the annual. Here are some of the bowden throttle cable on our setup. We do have an extra homemade sleeve that helps to stiffen the system. http://tinyurl.com/dyzexhu I've always wondered if there was a better cables to use. Carb heat side also uses a bowden cable.- I'm sure there are some picture s of that as well. Thanks Andy Abreu 6186L --- On Fri, 11/23/12, taildrags wrote: From: taildrags Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Throttle Cable Routing for Stromberg on A65 John; The throttle bell crank on my Stromberg requires very, very little effort t o swing the butterfly in the throat of the carb.- The inner wire of the B owden should be plenty stiff to operate the butterfly.- *BUT*- that's und er normal circumstances.- Thinking about abnormal conditions (or maybe "n ormal" for Strombergs a lot of the time), if you have carb ice in the ventu ri, it may pose significant resistance to movement of the butterfly in the throat of the carb and if you tried to operate the throttle against that re sistance, your inner wire would buckle. The outer jacket of my Bowden cable is secured much closer to the carb than 9"; I believe it's clamped to one of the carb screws using a fabricated ta b.- Let me look at it on Saturday and maybe get you a picture.- I think you need to run the outer jacket longer, clamp it closer to the carb, and only have a couple of inches of inner wire outside the outer jacket. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388772#388772 le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:42 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: model A tach I am not that familiar with the mechanical tachs used by most people, but believe they are standard rotation aircraft tachs. I used, and I know of one other guy who used a Westach electric tach that ran off the mag. MUCH lighter and cleaner installation, just one wire from the gauge to the mag and worked great. $.02 Douwe ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:08 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wire The picture attached shows the wire I used. The foil is the shield and it i s electrically connected to the bare wire. (ground)- You only need to cut the conductors and ground to the length you need, add the end connectors a nd attach. Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:46:23 AM PST US From: Andre Abreu Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: model A tach Here is a digital one we installed on the piet. The digital one uses a sensor and a magnet that is glued inside the prop. - The sensor is installed to the cowling.- It works okay.- Pro is tha t it is cheap and light ... Con is that it is not very accurate.- Only ha s a 60 RPM accuracy.-- I wanted something for when I am in the front se at giving dual... Better than nothing I guess. http://www.andytach.com/magento/ Andy Abreu 6186L. --- On Sat, 11/24/12, Douwe Blumberg wrote: From: Douwe Blumberg Subject: Pietenpol-List: model A tach =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AI am not that familiar with the mechanical tachs used by=0Amost people, but believe they are standard r otation aircraft tachs. =0A=0A - =0A=0AI used, and I know of one other gu y who used a Westach=0Aelectric tach that ran off the mag.- MUCH lighter and cleaner installation,=0Ajust one wire from the gauge to the mag and wor ked great. =0A=0A - =0A=0A$.02 =0A=0A - =0A=0ADouwe =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ====================0A=0A ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:08:38 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Progress Hi Kevin, I am=C2-wishing I had made my tank larger like Gary's as well. Mine will hold about 11 gallons; so am going to add a 5 gallon nose tank. How big was your tank that gave you 1:35? Probably about 11 gallons! Thanks, Jim ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:18:50 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wire From: "bubbleboy" I may be wrong here and correct me if I am, but I believe the outer insulation on auto wire is toxic if it burns? Not what you need to be breathing when trying to find an emergency spot to put down. Scotty -------- Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Tail and Ribs built...Building control system and about to start fuselage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388810#388810 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:45:22 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wire From: Jack Thanks Scotty, Michael and Gary. I guess I wasn't worried about the toxicity with an open cockpit but since many didn't get back to me saying it was ok I plan to use aviation wire and connectors. I will save money using Chinese h ardware. Kidding! Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Nov 24, 2012, at 11:12 AM, Michael Perez wrote : > > The picture attached shows the wire I used. The foil is the shield and it i s electrically connected to the bare wire. (ground) You only need to cut th e conductors and ground to the length you need, add the end connectors and a ttach. > > Michael Perez > Pietenpol HINT Videos > Karetaker Aero > www.karetakeraero.com > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:56:41 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Spar help? From: "Pietflyer1977" Looking at the wing plans and getting ready to order wood for spars. Why couldn't a guy just get alittle bigger piece and cut the top angle to fit the ribs so you don't have to add the little angle filler pieces? Is there something I am over looking? Does no one do it because of the little more added weight of wood between the ribs? Or the cost of spruce for a bigger spar? Thanks for any answers. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388815#388815 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:16:57 PM PST US From: "Dale Johnson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Spar help? That is what Greg and I did on ours. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pietflyer1977" Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:56 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Spar help? > > Looking at the wing plans and getting ready to order wood for spars. Why > couldn't a guy just get alittle bigger piece and cut the top angle to fit > the ribs so you don't have to add the little angle filler pieces? Is there > something I am over looking? Does no one do it because of the little more > added weight of wood between the ribs? Or the cost of spruce for a bigger > spar? Thanks for any answers. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388815#388815 > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:37:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Spar help? From: Gene Rambo Cost of wood for taller spar. The wedges are a no brainier, extremely easy to do. Wayyyyy easier than Berlinger the top of spar. No good way to get glue under rib. Gene Rambo On Nov 24, 2012, at 7:16 PM, "Dale Johnson" wrote: > > That is what Greg and I did on ours. > > Dale > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pietflyer1977" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:56 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Spar help? > > >> >> Looking at the wing plans and getting ready to order wood for spars. Why couldn't a guy just get alittle bigger piece and cut the top angle to fit the ribs so you don't have to add the little angle filler pieces? Is there something I am over looking? Does no one do it because of the little more added weight of wood between the ribs? Or the cost of spruce for a bigger spar? Thanks for any answers. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388815#388815 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:48:33 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Steel Tail From: "biplan53" I am getting ready to order metal for the steel tail for my piet and I was wondering, has anyone compared the weight of a wood vs metal tail? -------- Building steel fuselage aircamper. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388823#388823 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:31:55 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Spar help? From: Gene Rambo Beveling. Damned autospell! Gene Rambo On Nov 24, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Gene Rambo wrote: > > Cost of wood for taller spar. The wedges are a no brainier, extremely easy to do. Wayyyyy easier than Berlinger the top of spar. No good way to get glue under rib. > > Gene Rambo > > On Nov 24, 2012, at 7:16 PM, "Dale Johnson" wrote: > >> >> That is what Greg and I did on ours. >> >> Dale >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pietflyer1977" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:56 PM >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Spar help? >> >> >>> >>> Looking at the wing plans and getting ready to order wood for spars. Why couldn't a guy just get alittle bigger piece and cut the top angle to fit the ribs so you don't have to add the little angle filler pieces? Is there something I am over looking? Does no one do it because of the little more added weight of wood between the ribs? Or the cost of spruce for a bigger spar? Thanks for any answers. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388815#388815 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.