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1. 12:40 PM - Re: moving Scout (John Kuhfahl)
2. 06:17 PM - av gas in an old bike.. (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 07:28 PM - Re: av gas in an old bike.. (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
4. 08:17 PM - Re: av gas in an old bike.. (Dave and Connie)
5. 08:56 PM - Re: av gas in an old bike.. (Greg Bacon)
6. 09:45 PM - Re: av gas in an old bike.. (tkreiner)
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| Subject: | Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... |
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| Subject: | Re: moving Scout |
Oscar,
finally back on list--glad I could help load you (again) That is two I
helped you pack up! . Too bad you were so busy--would love to have shown
you my Piet.
Anyone else in San Antonio area--I could use some encouragement...90
percent done 90 percent to go....
Kevin P--missed your deal--checked archives--wow--welcome back--we talked
briefly--would love to come and see you or you here if you ever want to
(8T8)...
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>wrote:
> I just arrived home in Medford a while ago, safe and sound (Scout,
> too). A very nice journey, but it sure was windy up in N. California
> today!!! Good thing it was from the south... I had a tailwind all day.
> Total distance traveled, 2051 miles so cutting across the Nevada desert
> saved me about 150 miles and truthfully, I enjoy the drive out that way. I
> got to see some live-fire bombing practice by jets out of Fallon and the
> other military sites out there are always intriguing anyway. Now to get
> the plane unloaded and safely hangared. Oh, and in reply to Chuck's
> questions about the van, see below.
>
> -Oscar
>
> *>What size van did you use?*
> **
> *It's a 26 ft. Penske moving van. The 22 footer rents for the same as a
> 26 footer, so I opted for the larger one but that's because I had other
> stuff to move in there. The wing panels are only 13 ft. long and the
> fuselage will fit in a 22 ft. van, although snug. For a 75 mile move, I
> wouldn't even consider it... find a 16 ft. flatbed trailer and load it up.
> Fits perfectly; I've done it before; see last picture here:*
> **
> *http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/incident/incident.html*
> *
> >I assume you rented it. If so, from whom? Would I have access to the same
> company in North Carolina?*
> **
> *Penske. Yes, you should have access to the same outfit. I opted for
> Penske for several reasons... their vans are turbo diesels, while the
> UHauls are all gasoline. In the mountains, it makes a difference and for
> long runs out West, it makes a big difference. But again, you needn't rent
> a moving van just to move 75 miles... it's way too expensive.*
> **
> *>Did you have to fasten the wheel chocks to the floor of the van? If so
> how?*
> **
> *I didn't have to, but it was recommended to me that I did, and I am VERY
> glad that I did! Every time I go over a bridge at highway speeds, or
> wrinkles in the pavement, the rig jumps around and if things weren't
> secured, it would not have held the airplane in place. We secured the
> chocks and straps to the oak floor of the van with deck screws, and I'll
> bet that the screw holes will not be noticeable when I remove the screws
> and smooth things down. It's a moving van, and the floor gets a lot of
> wear and tear. I don't intend to leave it rough though.*
> **
> *>If you screwed or nailed them down, do you think the people who own the
> van would object to holes in the floor?*
> **
> *I'll let them inspect it when I'm done and go from there. They
> don't provide D-rings or tie-downs on the floor of the van and it's a shame
> because we could really have used them to keep the plane from moving fore
> and aft that way. Our field adaptation worked perfectly though.*
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret),
President, KUHLCOUPER LLC
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| Subject: | av gas in an old bike.. |
Rather off topic, but since there is such a deep base of knowledge here.
I just got a 71 Honda CB350 motorcycle which I'm going to lightly restore.
It runs well, but I don't want it to gum up over the winter since it has
carbs. I wondered if Av gas is closer to the gas it was designed for and
won't gum up if it sits. Was thinking of running it a little before
shutting it down and then using auto gas in the spring again.
Anybody know anything about this???
Douwe
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| Subject: | av gas in an old bike.. |
I've restored a few old bikes but never considered avgas.. If possible=2C
shut off the fuel supply and run the carbs dry. Otherwise (and again if po
ssible) there should be a screw drain valve on the bottom of the carb float
bowls. Get yourself a tuna can to catch the gas and drain it out.
I always used to run some seafoam thru before storing for the winter and th
en keep the tank full and the carbs dry. Never had a problem.
Tom B.
From: douweblumberg@earthlink.net
Subject: Pietenpol-List: av gas in an old bike..
Rather off topic=2C but since there is such a deep base of
knowledge here=85
I just got a 71 Honda CB350 motorcycle which I=92m going
to lightly restore. It runs well=2C but I don=92t want it to gum up over t
he
winter since it has carbs. I wondered if Av gas is closer to the gas it wa
s
designed for and won=92t gum up if it sits. Was thinking of running it a
little before shutting it down and then using auto gas in the spring again.
Anybody know anything about this???
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: av gas in an old bike.. |
I usually fill the lawn mower with 100ll. It won't gum up over the
winter. The CB350 should be happy on it. The higher octane won't hurt
anything and there is not catalytic converter to mess up with the lead.
Dave
On 11/25/2012 9:16 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
>
> Rather off topic, but since there is such a deep base of knowledge here...
>
> I just got a 71 Honda CB350 motorcycle which I'm going to lightly
> restore. It runs well, but I don't want it to gum up over the winter
> since it has carbs. I wondered if Av gas is closer to the gas it was
> designed for and won't gum up if it sits. Was thinking of running it
> a little before shutting it down and then using auto gas in the spring
> again.
>
> Anybody know anything about this???
>
> Douwe
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: av gas in an old bike.. |
Douwe,
100LL is known for it's great storage stability. The lead content in 100LL
is a little greater than the leaded auto gas your CB350 was weened on, so
your exhaust valves and seats will be protected as well. I Winterize my
small engines and ag tractor with 100LL and have never had fuel
contamination issues with it. Top off the CB350 gas tank to keep oxygen
and moisture out. Draining the carbs while in storage is a good practice
too.
Greg
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Dave and Connie <dmatt@frontiernet.net>wr
ote:
> I usually fill the lawn mower with 100ll. It won't gum up over the
> winter. The CB350 should be happy on it. The higher octane won't hurt
> anything and there is not catalytic converter to mess up with the lead.
> Dave
>
>
> On 11/25/2012 9:16 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
>
> Rather off topic, but since there is such a deep base of knowledge here
=85*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> I just got a 71 Honda CB350 motorcycle which I=92m going to lightly
> restore. It runs well, but I don=92t want it to gum up over the winter s
ince
> it has carbs. I wondered if Av gas is closer to the gas it was designed
> for and won=92t gum up if it sits. Was thinking of running it a little
> before shutting it down and then using auto gas in the spring again.****
>
> ** **
>
> Anybody know anything about this???****
>
> ** **
>
> Douwe****
>
>
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Greg Bacon
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| Subject: | Re: av gas in an old bike.. |
When Hurricane Ike hit our area in 2008, auto gas disappeared in about 4 hours.
So, with KDWH only a few miles from our home, and generators out of fuel, I
made a run to the field, and filled some 5 gallon cans with 100LL. (After hearing
all the generators stop running around the same time due to fuel exhaustion,
the sound of our lone generator brought out all the neighbors.) Over the
next thirteen days, my neighbors and I purchased over 60 gallons to keep the generators
running. (To do this we needed a tail number, as the guys at the field
would only sell it " for aircraft use." )
But I digress; all small engines run great using 100LL, as it has SIX times the
amount of TEL found in 1960 and '70's Premium, or high test, fuels. If you remember,
the addition of TEL is to prevent detonation, and does the same job on
a 15 Hp generator as your O-200.
The info from the other posts is very good, as the best way to prevent a carb problem
arising from disuse over the winter months is to run the tank empty of
any fuel having alcohol, and, if you MUST replace the fuel, use 100LL, and a stabilizer.
For me, both the chainsaw and the generator sit empty after having emptied their
tanks, and running them until the engine quits. In fact, I restart them until
they won't start again, just to get the fuel out of them. In the past, I've
had to clean carbs too many times, and getting all the fuel out is a whole lot
easier in the long run.
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Tom Kreiner
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