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1. 07:11 AM - New Group Member Introduction (hdr0614)
2. 07:26 AM - Re: New Group Member Introduction (Gary Boothe)
3. 07:33 AM - Re: New Group Member Introduction (echobravo4)
4. 07:34 AM - Re: New Group Member Introduction (gliderx5@comcast.net)
5. 11:43 AM - Re: Piet ski flying (taildrags)
6. 02:04 PM - Re: New Group Member Introduction (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
7. 02:43 PM - Re: New Group Member Introduction (C N Campbell)
8. 05:19 PM - Re: New Group Member Introduction (RAMPEYBOY@aol.com)
9. 05:23 PM - Airspeed Indicators (C N Campbell)
10. 05:36 PM - Re: Airspeed Indicators (Andre Abreu)
11. 05:43 PM - Re: Airspeed Indicators (John Francis)
12. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: Airspeed Indicators (Ryan Mueller)
13. 06:34 PM - Well as you know its that time of year once again, do I have to tell ya? (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
14. 06:37 PM - Worthy cause (Bill Church)
15. 07:21 PM - Re: Re: Airspeed Indicators (Andre Abreu)
16. 09:05 PM - Re: GoPro - camera mount infomation (Mark Roberts)
17. 09:20 PM - Re: Re: Airspeed Indicators (Gary Boothe)
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| Subject: | New Group Member Introduction |
Good Morning:
I'd like to take the time to introduce myself to the group as a new Pietenpol Air
Camper, builder. I have taken on the last Piet that Len McClain, of West Chester
had started; my local EAA Chapter 321, Reading had informed me of the project,
and the desire of the builder to sell it to someone that would finish
the project. It was through the careful, persistant direction of Paul DiMascio,
I was pointed in the direction of the Piet. Paul, is a Piet owner, and very
experienced builder. We have more then the Piet in common, we have also each
built the Mustang designed by Bob Bushby.
While my knowledge in wood and fabric is limited to helping others, I am positive
with the networking skills I have, I will finish Mr. McClain's Piet as he envisioned
the project.
My Mustang II, N657HR, now flies in Australia; last year, I sold the plane due
to my inability to hold on to my medical. Cancer and the FAA do not play well
together, and it became a huge game of hoops.....the kind each of us have jumped
through at one time in of life. So the LSA arena is where I will finish
out my flying.
Looking forward to meeting each of you at your yearly gathering in Brodhead, WI.
Herb Rose
Sacramento, PA
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| Subject: | New Group Member Introduction |
Herb,
Welcome to this fine group! I love the idea that you are finishing a
previously started project! We require pictures. Also, what are your
thoughts for a powerplant, landing gear...paint scheme? I hear black &
yellow is popular back east!
Gary Boothe
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of hdr0614
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 7:11 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Group Member Introduction
Good Morning:
I'd like to take the time to introduce myself to the group as a new
Pietenpol Air Camper, builder. I have taken on the last Piet that Len
McClain, of West Chester had started; my local EAA Chapter 321, Reading had
informed me of the project, and the desire of the builder to sell it to
someone that would finish the project. It was through the careful,
persistant direction of Paul DiMascio, I was pointed in the direction of the
Piet. Paul, is a Piet owner, and very experienced builder. We have more
then the Piet in common, we have also each built the Mustang designed by Bob
Bushby.
While my knowledge in wood and fabric is limited to helping others, I am
positive with the networking skills I have, I will finish Mr. McClain's Piet
as he envisioned the project.
My Mustang II, N657HR, now flies in Australia; last year, I sold the plane
due to my inability to hold on to my medical. Cancer and the FAA do not
play well together, and it became a huge game of hoops.....the kind each of
us have jumped through at one time in of life. So the LSA arena is where I
will finish out my flying.
Looking forward to meeting each of you at your yearly gathering in Brodhead,
WI.
Herb Rose
Sacramento, PA
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| Subject: | Re: New Group Member Introduction |
Welcome aboard Herb!
It was great to meet you yesterday-
post up some picts your new project when ya get the chance
Earl
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I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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| Subject: | Re: New Group Member Introduction |
Herb
Welcome to the group. I'm not too far away from you. I try to get to local fly-ins
and such (in the Tornado since the Piet is not done yet). Perhaps I'll see
you at one. Good luck with the project and keep us posted on your progress.
Malcolm Morrison
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From: "hdr0614" <hdr0614@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 10:10:54 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Group Member Introduction
Good Morning:
I'd like to take the time to introduce myself to the group as a new Pietenpol Air
Camper, builder. I have taken on the last Piet that Len McClain, of West Chester
had started; my local EAA Chapter 321, Reading had informed me of the project,
and the desire of the builder to sell it to someone that would finish the
project. It was through the careful, persistant direction of Paul DiMascio,
I was pointed in the direction of the Piet. Paul, is a Piet owner, and very experienced
builder. We have more then the Piet in common, we have also each built
the Mustang designed by Bob Bushby.
While my knowledge in wood and fabric is limited to helping others, I am positive
with the networking skills I have, I will finish Mr. McClain's Piet as he envisioned
the project.
My Mustang II, N657HR, now flies in Australia; last year, I sold the plane due
to my inability to hold on to my medical. Cancer and the FAA do not play well
together, and it became a huge game of hoops.....the kind each of us have jumped
through at one time in of life. So the LSA arena is where I will finish out
my flying.
Looking forward to meeting each of you at your yearly gathering in Brodhead, WI.
Herb Rose
Sacramento, PA
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HD Rose
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| Subject: | Re: Piet ski flying |
That photo is one of the best Piet pictures I've ever seen, and VERY unique! Fabulous.
Ol' 626 has about as close to zero dihedral in the wings as my eyes can discern.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: New Group Member Introduction |
After much coaxing, and a hangar visit this weekend we finally got Herb to
say hello. I met Herb a few years ago while looking for a Tech Counselor to
give my build a look a Herb drove a considerable distance to do that, and
has been a help ever since. It was great seeing him lately and learning of
his new project and now a member of our group.
Herb is a great resource and brings a friendly attitude and high skill
level with him. I am privileged to have known him for as long as I have and
welcome him to the best group of aviation friends I have known. I know Herb
will bring as many answers as he does questions along to the group as he
continues his project. We look forward to having him at Brodhead as soon as he
decides to put tail numbers, names and faces together.
Welcome Herb.
You re gonna love this group and the build process of your new Piet, its a
different group and a different bird than the go fast guys and its not
button pushing either. So welcome to the adventure!
John
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| Subject: | Re: New Group Member Introduction |
Welcome aboard, Herb. I know how you feel. It wasn't too long ago that I
was the "newby". I've learned a lot from the group and they have been very
gentle with me -- with a few exceptions. Good to have you in the group.
Chuck
Do not archive
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From: "hdr0614" <hdr0614@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 10:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Group Member Introduction
>
> Good Morning:
>
> I'd like to take the time to introduce myself to the group as a new
> Pietenpol Air Camper, builder. I have taken on the last Piet that Len
> McClain, of West Chester had started; my local EAA Chapter 321, Reading
> had informed me of the project, and the desire of the builder to sell it
> to someone that would finish the project. It was through the careful,
> persistant direction of Paul DiMascio, I was pointed in the direction of
> the Piet. Paul, is a Piet owner, and very experienced builder. We have
> more then the Piet in common, we have also each built the Mustang designed
> by Bob Bushby.
>
> While my knowledge in wood and fabric is limited to helping others, I am
> positive with the networking skills I have, I will finish Mr. McClain's
> Piet as he envisioned the project.
>
> My Mustang II, N657HR, now flies in Australia; last year, I sold the plane
> due to my inability to hold on to my medical. Cancer and the FAA do not
> play well together, and it became a huge game of hoops.....the kind each
> of us have jumped through at one time in of life. So the LSA arena is
> where I will finish out my flying.
>
> Looking forward to meeting each of you at your yearly gathering in
> Brodhead, WI.
>
> Herb Rose
> Sacramento, PA
>
> --------
> HD Rose
>
>
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>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389700#389700
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| Subject: | Re: New Group Member Introduction |
Herb, you puttin a 200 horse Lyc on it? haha, I have been a long time
lurker of the group, and have always fancied the idea of owning a Pietenpol.
That is of course if I ever finish MY Mustang!
Boyce
In a message dated 12/2/2012 11:06:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
hdr0614@hotmail.com writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "hdr0614" <hdr0614@hotmail.com>
Good Morning:
I'd like to take the time to introduce myself to the group as a new
Pietenpol Air Camper, builder. I have taken on the last Piet that Len McClain,
of West Chester had started; my local EAA Chapter 321, Reading had informed
me of the project, and the desire of the builder to sell it to someone that
would finish the project. It was through the careful, persistant
direction of Paul DiMascio, I was pointed in the direction of the Piet. Paul,
is a
Piet owner, and very experienced builder. We have more then the Piet in
common, we have also each built the Mustang designed by Bob Bushby.
While my knowledge in wood and fabric is limited to helping others, I am
positive with the networking skills I have, I will finish Mr. McClain's Piet
as he envisioned the project.
My Mustang II, N657HR, now flies in Australia; last year, I sold the plane
due to my inability to hold on to my medical. Cancer and the FAA do not
play well together, and it became a huge game of hoops.....the kind each of
us have jumped through at one time in of life. So the LSA arena is where
I will finish out my flying.
Looking forward to meeting each of you at your yearly gathering in
Brodhead, WI.
Herb Rose
Sacramento, PA
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HD Rose
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| Subject: | Airspeed Indicators |
I'm doing this at the suggestion of Ryan Mueller. I need to aquire an
airspeed indicator in the 0-to-80 or 120 MPH (maximum) range. I have
priced the UMA at Aircraft Spruce at $168.95, the UMA at Chief Aircraft
at $162, and the Falcon at Aircraft Spruce at $158. I just wonder if
anyone on the list has any knowledge of the Falcon gauge. Ryan says he
doesn't know anything about it. All the gauges are available in 0-80
MPH, 0-100 MPH, and 0-120 MPH. Any of you actual Piet pilots have any
comments on any of these gauges? I would appreciate any input. Chuck
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| Subject: | Re: Airspeed Indicators |
Cheap airspeed indicators I have had luck with.=0ACheap altimeters have bee
n hit and miss.=0A=0AAndy Abreu=0A6816L=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________________
___________=0A From: C N Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net>=0ATo: pietenp
ol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 8:22 PM=0ASubject:
Pietenpol-List: Airspeed Indicators=0A =0A=0A =0AI'm doing this at the sugg
estion of Ryan =0AMueller.- I need to aquire an airspeed indicator in the
0-to-80 or 120 MPH =0A(maximum) range.- I have priced the UMA at Aircraf
t Spruce at $168.95, the =0AUMA at Chief Aircraft at $162, and the Falcon a
t Aircraft Spruce at $158.- =0AI just wonder if anyone on the list has an
y knowledge of the Falcon gauge.- =0ARyan says he doesn't know anything a
bout it.- All the gauges are available =0Ain 0-80 MPH, 0-100 MPH, and 0-1
20 MPH.- Any of you actual Piet pilots have =0Aany comments on any of the
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| Subject: | Re: Airspeed Indicators |
I have the same question. Recently on William Wynne's website he said this" Be
aware that low-cost instruments like Falcon have been made in China for the
last 15 years and they are junk. You are far better off buying used stuff that
still has OEM Cessna stickers on it, or some other marking that IDs it as a domestic
product."
John
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| Subject: | Re: Airspeed Indicators |
+1 for UMA, they are made in the USA:
http://www.umainstruments.com/
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:42 PM, John Francis <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
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> I have the same question. Recently on William Wynne's website he said
> this" Be aware that low-cost instruments like =93Falcon=94 have been made
in
> China for the last 15 years and they are junk. You are far better off
> buying used stuff that still has OEM Cessna stickers on it, or some other
> marking that ID=92s it as a domestic product."
>
> John
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| Subject: | Well as you know its that time of year once again, do |
I have to tell ya?
It is hardly avoidable that when leaves are frozen to the ground and every
piece of metal is so cold that each you touch sticks to your skin with
little chance of releasing. It a similar bond to that of the West systems
epoxy to wood, you pull it apart and the and the joint remains as the wood fiber
remains on one side or the other. Same thing you pull the metal away and
you're gonna leave some skin on the metal, funny thing about that bond the
metal doesn't sacrifice without a fight and skin always looses.
Now, I'm kinda tired of the winter routine of freezing my donkey off in a
dark cold hangar and accomplishing nothing. The airport as you know is in
the anti heat business and the last time faced with this predicament. They
sent me an eviction letter. It seems that the definition of open flame
escapes their technological comprehension. The thing to remember is they run the
airport so my opinion and or professional expertise come in at a close last
to what they think. Right or wrong they are in charge and so goes the
logic or lack there of.
So I've decided to take Dan Helsper and others at their word and attempt to
carve my prop this winter during the famed and feared one and only
annual, you guessed it, Buildapalooza!!!
Dan and others swear by the process as something that anyone can do. To
remedy the entire freeze your ass off part I'm moving back to my old semi
subterranean shop where the heat works and no airport BS, what a concept, un
bridled, un encumbered work sessions!
Now comes your part. I'm looking for the best prop configuration for a
Lycoming C1B 0235 powered Piet. I'm looking for dimensions and pitch numbers
for best climb performance and any templates and gauges I might be able to
borrow through this process. I have been considering a 72X44 but if there's a
better one out there I would prefer to use that configuration
Naturally I would prefer Dan build it but that's not gonna be a happening
thing. So its back to the basement for warmth and prop construction as we
begin this years BUILDAPALOOZA with prop making under the direction of Dan.
Anyone willing to provide information, time, money , wood, adhesive to the
project or just an entire prop finished and ready to go would be welcomed
and because of my magnanimous personality and generosity you'll even have a
chance to boast about the contribution to my slow moving project.
Well here's hoping that everyone has a great December and makes great
progress much sawdust and remember if its not a BUILDAPALOOZA its just not a
happening thing
Sorry to say the builders block has been significant this year with little
progress and accomplishment. A word to the wise build with great diligence
for the longer it takes the longer it takes.
Be well my friends and thank you in advance for any information
contributions and advice you are willing to offer.
John
Not safe any time anymore, just me!
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Here's a promotional video, in support of fund-raising for a new home for the Canadian
Air and Space Museum, which was recently evicted from its home in one
of the old hangars of DeHavilland Canada, where the Chipmunk, Beaver and Otter
were born (among other iconic aircraft).
What does this have to do with Pietenpols, you ask? Well, this video features
actress and Pietenpol owner Michelle Goodeve. There's a bit of footage of her
Piet in flight as well.
Give it a watch, check out the website and contribute, if you feel so inclined.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt1mtkSrhqU&feature=player_embedded
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Airspeed Indicators |
Who really needs an ASI anyway?=C2- Regs say you do, but we should all be
able to fly without any dials and gauges.=C2- Good pilot has a good atti
tude ... right? :)
Andy Abreu
N6186L
--- On Sun, 12/2/12, John Francis <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
From: John Francis <Mrkringles@msn.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Airspeed Indicators
I have the same question.=C2- Recently on William Wynne's=C2- website h
e said this" Be aware that low-cost instruments like =9CFalcon
=9D have been made in China for the last 15 years and they are junk. You ar
e far better off buying used stuff that still has OEM Cessna stickers on it
, or some other marking that ID=99s it as a domestic product."
John
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| Subject: | Re: GoPro - camera mount infomation |
Regarding the goPro cameras, another option I went for (with eventual Piet videos
in mind) is the Replay HD cameras. They are much smaller and in head to head
comparisons, are better picture quality (in my opinion....)
I bought 3 of these for a video shoot I did for a corporate video this summer,
and loved them. They are super simple to mount, as they are cylinders: just snap
into the mount.
The output is 1080p and really crisp... I'm not a rep for them, but they don't
get the name recognition as GoPro has, because they are newer to the market.
Just an FYI for ya'll. Cost the same as the GoPro.
Check out at: http://replayxd.com/product/replay-xd1080-video-camera-system/
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Airspeed Indicators |
That must be why everyone groups their primary flight
instrumentsso they can dutifully ignore them. J
Gary Boothe
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andre
Abreu
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Airspeed Indicators
Who really needs an ASI anyway? Regs say you do, but we should all be
able to fly without any dials and gauges. Good pilot has a good
attitude ... right? :)
Andy Abreu
N6186L
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From: John Francis <Mrkringles@msn.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Airspeed Indicators
<Mrkringles@msn.com>
I have the same question. Recently on William Wynne's website he said
this" Be aware that low-cost instruments like =9CFalcon=9D
have been made in China for the last 15 years and they are junk. You are
far better off buying used stuff that still has OEM Cessna stickers on
it, or some other marking that ID=99s it as a domestic product."
John
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