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1. 05:14 AM - Re: Well as you know its that time of year once again, do I have to tell ya? (helspersew@aol.com)
2. 06:17 AM - Re: Well as you know its that time of year once again, do I have to tell ya? (Amsafetyc)
3. 06:23 AM - Re: Well as you know its that time of year once again, do I have to tell ya? (Amsafetyc)
4. 07:20 AM - Re: Well as you know its that time of year once again, do I have to tell ya? (Gary Boothe)
5. 07:32 AM - Re: Piet ski flying (Baldeagle)
6. 07:32 AM - Re: Well as you know its that time of year once again, do I have to tell ya? (John Hofmann)
7. 08:34 AM - Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... (aerocarjake)
8. 09:33 AM - AN5820-1 turn & bank (Oscar Zuniga)
9. 09:44 AM - Re: New Group Member Introduction (BYD)
10. 09:53 AM - Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... (BYD)
11. 10:07 AM - Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
12. 10:18 AM - Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... (aerocarjake)
13. 10:20 AM - Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... (aerocarjake)
14. 11:31 AM - Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... (BYD)
15. 11:58 AM - prop carving (taildrags)
16. 12:19 PM - Got some Piet building done today! (Kyle85)
17. 02:39 PM - Re: prop carving (Jerry Dotson)
18. 03:06 PM - Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... (Doug Dever)
19. 03:19 PM - Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... (aerocarjake)
20. 04:15 PM - Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... (Aircamperace@yahoo.com)
21. 04:25 PM - Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... (Aircamperace@yahoo.com)
22. 06:17 PM - Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... (aerocarjake)
23. 07:49 PM - Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... (biplan53)
24. 08:08 PM - Re: Got some Piet building done today! (aerocarjake)
25. 09:02 PM - Re: AN5820-1 turn & bank (taildrags)
26. 09:20 PM - Re: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... (Bkemike)
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| Subject: | Re: Well as you know its that time of year once again, |
do I have to tell ya?
John,
I'm with you on working in the cold. By brain just shuts down and I find my
self standing there just thinking about one thing.....getting warm. Hopeful
ly the prop carving journey you will find to be very mind opening. This was
the most satisfying part of the whole Piet building process for me for sur
e. I am not really an artist like some in this group, so for me it was real
ly an accomplishment. I am sure you can do it. Good luck!!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Re: Well as you know its that time of year once again, |
do I have to tell ya?
Sorry for the low quality of this years rant just don't have it in me at the
moment. Enthusiasm is low, holidays and still no job. Things are just not t
hat great these days. All to say, sorry to disappoint ya on the buildapalooz
a rant
I'll keep ya posted if anything changes.
Be well
John
Sent from my iPho
On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:13 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
> John,
>
> I'm with you on working in the cold. By brain just shuts down and I find m
yself standing there just thinking about one thing.....getting warm. Hopeful
ly the prop carving journey you will find to be very mind opening. This was t
he most satisfying part of the whole Piet building process for me for sure. I
am not really an artist like some in this group, so for me it was really an
accomplishment. I am sure you can do it. Good luck!!
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
>
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| Subject: | Re: Well as you know its that time of year once again, |
do I have to tell ya?
Sorry that wasn't meant for general distribution please disregard
Thanks
John
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 3, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com> wrote:
> Sorry for the low quality of this years rant just don't have it in me at t
he moment. Enthusiasm is low, holidays and still no job. Things are just not
that great these days. All to say, sorry to disappoint ya on the buildapalo
oza rant
>
> I'll keep ya posted if anything changes.
>
> Be well
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPho
>
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:13 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> I'm with you on working in the cold. By brain just shuts down and I find m
yself standing there just thinking about one thing.....getting warm. Hopeful
ly the prop carving journey you will find to be very mind opening. This was t
he most satisfying part of the whole Piet building process for me for sure. I
am not really an artist like some in this group, so for me it was really an
accomplishment. I am sure you can do it. Good luck!!
>>
>> Dan Helsper
>> Puryear, TN
>
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| Subject: | Re: Well as you know its that time of year once again, |
do I have to tell ya?
Yes, John, do try to keep your rants on the upper end of the quality scale.
Gary
NX308MB
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 3, 2012, at 6:22 AM, Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com> wrote:
> Sorry that wasn't meant for general distribution please disregard
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the low quality of this years rant just don't have it in me at t
he moment. Enthusiasm is low, holidays and still no job. Things are just not
that great these days. All to say, sorry to disappoint ya on the buildapalo
oza rant
>>
>> I'll keep ya posted if anything changes.
>>
>> Be well
>>
>> John
>>
>> Sent from my iPho
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:13 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> I'm with you on working in the cold. By brain just shuts down and I find
myself standing there just thinking about one thing.....getting warm. Hopef
ully the prop carving journey you will find to be very mind opening. This wa
s the most satisfying part of the whole Piet building process for me for sur
e. I am not really an artist like some in this group, so for me it was reall
y an accomplishment. I am sure you can do it. Good luck!!
>>>
>>> Dan Helsper
>>> Puryear, TN
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Piet ski flying |
Photos were taken at Old Rhinebeck. and the skis are Marsden skis-
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| Subject: | Re: Well as you know its that time of year once again, |
do I have to tell ya?
Smile Son. Never disconcert the masses.
-doc-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Amsafetyc wrote:
> Sorry that wasn't meant for general distribution please disregard
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the low quality of this years rant just don't have it in me
at the moment. Enthusiasm is low, holidays and still no job. Things are
just not that great these days. All to say, sorry to disappoint ya on
the buildapalooza rant
>>
>> I'll keep ya posted if anything changes.
>>
>> Be well
>>
>> John
>>
>> Sent from my iPho
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:13 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> I'm with you on working in the cold. By brain just shuts down and I
find myself standing there just thinking about one thing.....getting
warm. Hopefully the prop carving journey you will find to be very mind
opening. This was the most satisfying part of the whole Piet building
process for me for sure. I am not really an artist like some in this
group, so for me it was really an accomplishment. I am sure you can do
it. Good luck!!
>>>
>>> Dan Helsper
>>> Puryear, TN
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> quot;">www.homebuilthelp.com
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| Subject: | Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... |
Hello good Piet-ple,
Just a quick update after a weekend of progress.....
Mike from "Ready Weld" came by Friday and executed more of his magic. My process
is to adapt the design (because so little detail for the steel-tube fuselage
is on the plans) cut, fit, and prepare the parts. I then choose to have a professional
come for the welding. In this way I can enjoy the building, cutting,
fitting aspects of the project and don't run the risk of screwing things up with
my lack of welding skills - just a choice of how I am doing things.
This bellcrank assembly will allow the elevator cables to run on the outside of
the fuselage for more of an olde-timey look.
I adapted a step from a Piper Tomahawk on the left side. I learned to fly on a
Tomahawk (insert derogatory/inflammatory comment here - too bad I LIKED flying
that plane) so I wanted to include a piece of a Tomahawk somehow on my Piet.
The step was the part I chose as I needed a step anyway and the part has seemed
to adapt quite well (IMHO).
The other area I had prepared was the aft fuselage and mounts for the horizontal
tail. Mike did an especially nice welding job in this area.
Having fun in my indoors/heated garage in rainy Seattle......!!
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | AN5820-1 turn & bank |
Anybody happen to have a parts diagram or overhaul manual for a Pioneer Ins
truments AN5820-1 vacuum turn & bank? Or anything similar?
Oscar Zuniga
Medford=2C OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: New Group Member Introduction |
Welcome Herb!
Judging from your picture of the nice Mustang II, you are no doubt already familiar
with Tony Bingeliss books on construction and are well prepared to build
another airplane. First piece of friendly advice is get a hold of a copy of The
Great Waldo Pepper and watch it multiple times. This group has been able to
glean most of lifes answers from that source and familiarity with it will greatly
increase your understanding of answers and comments from them.
Welcome aboard youre gonna love this!
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| Subject: | Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... |
Jake,
As you modify the aft portion one suggestion I can offer is to consider some sort
of handle back by the tail. It can be a short piece of tube, or streamlined
material, but without it, the temptation will be to lift the tail by the horizontal
stabilizer when moving on the ground. Just a thought.
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| Subject: | Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... |
Nice work Jake.... I like the look of the step from the "Trama-Hawk".
:) My parents live in Puyallup just South of you. I may have to stop by
and check out your Piet when I am up there for a vist.
Brian
SLC-UT
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
aerocarjake
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 9:34 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another day of welding progress on my
steel-tube Piet...
--> <flight.jake@gmail.com>
Hello good Piet-ple,
Just a quick update after a weekend of progress.....
Mike from "Ready Weld" came by Friday and executed more of his magic. My
process is to adapt the design (because so little detail for the
steel-tube fuselage is on the plans) cut, fit, and prepare the parts. I
then choose to have a professional come for the welding. In this way I
can enjoy the building, cutting, fitting aspects of the project and
don't run the risk of screwing things up with my lack of welding skills
- just a choice of how I am doing things.
This bellcrank assembly will allow the elevator cables to run on the
outside of the fuselage for more of an olde-timey look.
I adapted a step from a Piper Tomahawk on the left side. I learned to
fly on a Tomahawk (insert derogatory/inflammatory comment here - too bad
I LIKED flying that plane) so I wanted to include a piece of a Tomahawk
somehow on my Piet. The step was the part I chose as I needed a step
anyway and the part has seemed to adapt quite well (IMHO).
The other area I had prepared was the aft fuselage and mounts for the
horizontal tail. Mike did an especially nice welding job in this area.
Having fun in my indoors/heated garage in rainy Seattle......!!
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389753#389753
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_bellcrank_welded_373.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_bellcrank_welded_underside_685.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/3_horiz_tail_mounts_422.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_tomahawk_step_131.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_step_163.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... |
Thanks Bill.... yes, I have already made the part (kind of a "u" shaped tube/hoop)
that will be welded back by the tail (aka Piper Cub) but I want to have all
the cables and tail components in place before I determine the exact placement.
I plan to only have one on the left side....
Are you flying yet...!??!?
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... |
Visits to the "world's smallest airplane factory" are always encouraged/welcome...!
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... |
aerocarjake wrote:
> Thanks Bill.... yes, I have already made the part (kind of a "u" shaped tube/hoop)
that will be welded back by the tail (aka Piper Cub) but I want to have
all the cables and tail components in place before I determine the exact placement.
I plan to only have one on the left side....
>
> Are you flying yet...!??!?
I should have figured - but I didn't want you asking why I didn't mention it while
you were building when we're relaxing at a fly-in some day. Looks good BTW.
Plane has been ready for inspection for some time while I fight with the government(s).
Feds misspelled important information on registration and State already
wants money for an airplane that is just parts still. Hope for inspection
later this month. Hasn't been the best aviating WX as I'm sure you know!
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John wrote-
"I'm looking for the best prop configuration for a Lycoming C1B 0235 powered Piet.
I'm looking for dimensions and pitch numbers for best climb performance and
any templates and gauges I might be able to borrow through this process. I have
been considering a 72X44 but if there's a better one out there I would prefer
to use that configuration"
Here's some info from my prop guru:
"The older 7ECA Citabrias used the C1 Series O-235. I would look at what they used
for a prop, then probably go 2" flatter in pitch as the Piet is slightly slower
and draggier than the Citabria (although the 7ECA is pretty much a dog)."
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Got some Piet building done today! |
Well, 2 years ago I figured I should be half done with my Piet by now...I wish
that were the case. I suppose moving, having MORE kids and changing jobs have
kept me distracted. Part of me wants to say the heck with it and sell the project.(not
that it is much of a project lol) BUT since I was 14 working at an airport
where experimental aviation was very much alive, I vowed that one day I
will build and fly my own airplane. So today I snuck away for a few hours to continue
my quest! Pictures to follow.
-Kyle
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Airspeed, altitude or brains: Two are always needed to successfully complete the
flight.
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| Subject: | Re: prop carving |
John,
I am using a 76 X 44 Cloudcars on my Piet. The Sensenich 76RM-41 was used on the
Piper PA-12 Seaplane. They used up to a 46" pitch.
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Jerry Dotson
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
do not archive
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| Subject: | Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube |
Piet...
We used to call them trauma hawks when I was teaching. (Don't look back at
the tail during a stall.) :0 My dergatory comment. =3B)
Sorry=2C couldn't resesist. Please keep pics coming as I have decided on
a steel fuse.
Doug Dever
In beautiful Stow Ohio
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube
Piet...
> From: flight.jake@gmail.com
> Date: Mon=2C 3 Dec 2012 08:33:45 -0800
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
m>
>
> Hello good Piet-ple=2C
>
> Just a quick update after a weekend of progress.....
>
> Mike from "Ready Weld" came by Friday and executed more of his magic. My
process is to adapt the design (because so little detail for the steel-tube
fuselage is on the plans) cut=2C fit=2C and prepare the parts. I then choo
se to have a professional come for the welding. In this way I can enjoy the
building=2C cutting=2C fitting aspects of the project and don't run the ri
sk of screwing things up with my lack of welding skills - just a choice of
how I am doing things.
>
> This bellcrank assembly will allow the elevator cables to run on the outs
ide of the fuselage for more of an olde-timey look.
>
> I adapted a step from a Piper Tomahawk on the left side. I learned to fly
on a Tomahawk (insert derogatory/inflammatory comment here - too bad I LIK
ED flying that plane) so I wanted to include a piece of a Tomahawk somehow
on my Piet. The step was the part I chose as I needed a step anyway and the
part has seemed to adapt quite well (IMHO).
>
> The other area I had prepared was the aft fuselage and mounts for the hor
izontal tail. Mike did an especially nice welding job in this area.
>
> Having fun in my indoors/heated garage in rainy Seattle......!!
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> Newport Way Air Museum (OK=2C it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... |
Yes, but there is such a beautiful view through those big windows of that tail
shuddering... (ha!) :-) However, ATC let you get away with murder when you
called approach with, "Piper Tomahawk 9275T, XX miles North inbound with information
Mike"
defiantly do not archive
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube |
Piet...
Nice work Doug! I also enjoyed the Tomahawk, got my private in one out of El
yria, it was a great little plane!
Ryan Michals
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 3, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Doug Dever <chiefpepperhead@hotmail.com> wrote:
> We used to call them trauma hawks when I was teaching. (Don't look back a
t the tail during a stall.) :0 My dergatory comment. ;)
> Sorry, couldn't resesist. Please keep pics coming as I have decided on a
steel fuse.
>
> Doug Dever
> In beautiful Stow Ohio
>
>
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tub
e Piet...
> > From: flight.jake@gmail.com
> > Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 08:33:45 -0800
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >
om>
> >
> > Hello good Piet-ple,
> >
> > Just a quick update after a weekend of progress.....
> >
> > Mike from "Ready Weld" came by Friday and executed more of his magic. My
process is to adapt the design (because so little detail for the steel-tube
fuselage is on the plans) cut, fit, and prepare the parts. I then choose to
have a professional come for the welding. In this way I can enjoy the build
ing, cutting, fitting aspects of the project and don't run the risk of screw
ing things up with my lack of welding skills - just a choice of how I am doi
ng things.
> >
> > This bellcrank assembly will allow the elevator cables to run on the out
side of the fuselage for more of an olde-timey look.
> >
> > I adapted a step from a Piper Tomahawk on the left side. I learned to fl
y on a Tomahawk (insert derogatory/inflammatory comment here - too bad I LIK
ED flying that plane) so I wanted to include a piece of a Tomahawk somehow o
n my Piet. The step was the part I chose as I needed a step anyway and the p
art has seemed to adapt quite well (IMHO).
> >
> > The other area I had prepared was the aft fuselage and mounts for the ho
rizontal tail. Mike did an especially nice welding job in this area.
> >
> > Having fun in my indoors/heated garage in rainy Seattle......!!
> >
> > --------
> > Jake Schultz - curator,
> > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389753#389753
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Attachments:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_bellcrank_welded_373.jpg
> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_bellcrank_welded_underside_685.jpg
> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/3_horiz_tail_mounts_422.jpg
> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_tomahawk_step_131.jpg
> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_step_163.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube |
Piet...
I mean Jake! What technique did you use to cope that thin wall tube so nicel
y?
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Aircamperace@yahoo.com wrote:
> Nice work Doug! I also enjoyed the Tomahawk, got my private in one out of E
lyria, it was a great little plane!
>
>
> Ryan Michals
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Doug Dever <chiefpepperhead@hotmail.com> wrote
:
>
>> We used to call them trauma hawks when I was teaching. (Don't look back a
t the tail during a stall.) :0 My dergatory comment. ;)
>> Sorry, couldn't resesist. Please keep pics coming as I have decided on
a steel fuse.
>>
>> Doug Dever
>> In beautiful Stow Ohio
>>
>>
>> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tu
be Piet...
>> > From: flight.jake@gmail.com
>> > Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 08:33:45 -0800
>> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> >
com>
>> >
>> > Hello good Piet-ple,
>> >
>> > Just a quick update after a weekend of progress.....
>> >
>> > Mike from "Ready Weld" came by Friday and executed more of his magic. M
y process is to adapt the design (because so little detail for the steel-tub
e fuselage is on the plans) cut, fit, and prepare the parts. I then choose t
o have a professional come for the welding. In this way I can enjoy the buil
ding, cutting, fitting aspects of the project and don't run the risk of scre
wing things up with my lack of welding skills - just a choice of how I am do
ing things.
>> >
>> > This bellcrank assembly will allow the elevator cables to run on the ou
tside of the fuselage for more of an olde-timey look.
>> >
>> > I adapted a step from a Piper Tomahawk on the left side. I learned to f
ly on a Tomahawk (insert derogatory/inflammatory comment here - too bad I LI
KED flying that plane) so I wanted to include a piece of a Tomahawk somehow o
n my Piet. The step was the part I chose as I needed a step anyway and the p
art has seemed to adapt quite well (IMHO).
>> >
>> > The other area I had prepared was the aft fuselage and mounts for the h
orizontal tail. Mike did an especially nice welding job in this area.
>> >
>> > Having fun in my indoors/heated garage in rainy Seattle......!!
>> >
>> > --------
>> > Jake Schultz - curator,
>> > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Read this topic online here:
>> >
>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389753#389753
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > Attachments:
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>> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_bellcrank_welded_373.jpg
>> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_bellcrank_welded_underside_685.jpg
>> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/3_horiz_tail_mounts_422.jpg
>> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_tomahawk_step_131.jpg
>> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_step_163.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... |
Heaven forbid but I use a Harbor Freight tubing notcher and really good bi-metal
hole saws. I've probably used up a dozen or more bits making all the fish-mouth
cuts so far. Works real well with Tap-a-matic cutting fluid in a spray bottle.....
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... |
Jake your plane is looking great!!! I found a book that is great to use with the
steel fuselage, it shows all the different mounts and pieces you need on a plane,from
engine mounts to landing gear, you name it. It also has most of the
charts you need like an hardware numbers and measurements. The book is Aircraft
Detail Design Manual. It is published by Aviation Publications 217E Washington
St. Appleton,Wisconsin 54912-0357. I think I got it at the EAA museum. I promise
to get some pictures soon.
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Building steel fuselage aircamper.
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| Subject: | Re: Got some Piet building done today! |
I encourage you to keep up the passion.... It's been said to do something - no
matter how small - every day and sooner or later it will be done.... It's the
journey that is the best for me - the small gratifying steps along the way.....
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: AN5820-1 turn & bank |
Never mind... I sat down with the box full of parts and started figuring them out.
Turns out that there's only one way the instrument can go back together ;o)
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube |
Piet...
The Cutting oil is a great tip, Jake. I also use the HF notcher; I had to do some
shimming initially to get the cutter axis and tube axis to line up. Finding
smaller cutters was a little difficult; I had to order 5/8 online. Home Depot
didn't have anything smaller than 3/4. I use a cheap end mill for 1/2.
Mike Hardaway
Sent from an Apple iThingie.
On Dec 3, 2012, at 6:17 PM, "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Heaven forbid but I use a Harbor Freight tubing notcher and really good bi-metal
hole saws. I've probably used up a dozen or more bits making all the fish-mouth
cuts so far. Works real well with Tap-a-matic cutting fluid in a spray bottle.....
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> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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