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1. 04:29 AM - AN pipe and flair fittings (Jack)
2. 04:38 AM - Re: AN pipe and flair fittings (Gene Rambo)
3. 04:52 AM - Re: AN pipe and flair fittings (Jack Phillips)
4. 05:09 AM - Re: AN pipe and flair fittings (helspersew@aol.com)
5. 09:43 AM - Re: AN pipe and flair fittings (Jack)
6. 09:43 AM - Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... (aerocarjake)
7. 02:47 PM - Airlion flies again (Gardiner Mason)
8. 02:54 PM - Re: Airlion flies again (Jack Phillips)
9. 03:04 PM - Re: Airlion flies again (Robert Bush)
10. 03:16 PM - Re: Airlion flies again (Gary Boothe)
11. 04:03 PM - Re: Airlion flies again (C N Campbell)
12. 04:36 PM - Re: Airlion flies again (Jim Boyer)
13. 05:24 PM - One piece wing and fuselage hauling. (tools)
14. 05:36 PM - Re: Airlion flies again (Greg Bacon)
15. 07:13 PM - Jeopardy (Baldeagle)
16. 08:19 PM - Re: Jeopardy (John Hofmann)
17. 08:35 PM - Re: Airlion flies again (macz@peak.org)
18. 09:04 PM - Re: Airlion flies again (John Hofmann)
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Subject: | AN pipe and flair fittings |
Planning my fuels system (so many details-parts) is it best to use the AN
aluminum or steel fittings?
Thanks,
Jack
Jack Textor
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Subject: | Re: AN pipe and flair fittings |
Brass.
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On Dec 4, 2012, at 7:33 AM, "Jack" <jack@textors.com> wrote:
> Planning my fuels system (so many details-parts) is it best to use the AN a
luminum or steel fittings?
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Subject: | AN pipe and flair fittings |
The fittings should be matched to the fuel line materials. If you are
using
aluminum tubing, use aluminum fittings. Be sure if using flared
fittings
that your flaring tool makes a 37=B0 aircraft flare, rather than the
45=B0 flare
used in automotive applications. Flared fittings should not need any
sealant. Pipe thread fittings, on the other hand, will leak without
some
kind of treatment of the threads. DO NOT USE Teflon or pipe dope '
they can
get loose and clog your fuel system. The best stuff I=92ve found is
called
Seal Lube. You can get it from ACS. A can is a lifetime supply.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/sealube.php
Good luck!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 7:29 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: AN pipe and flair fittings
Planning my fuels system (so many details-parts) is it best to use the
AN
aluminum or steel fittings?
Thanks,
Jack
Jack Textor
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Subject: | Re: AN pipe and flair fittings |
Jack,
If you choose aluminum flared fittings, these seals work great. I replace t
hese every time I disconnect/reconnect. No leaks!
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/search.php?s=flare+seal&x=0&y=0
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 6:52 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: AN pipe and flair fittings
The fittings should be matched to the fuelline materials. If you are using
aluminum tubing, use aluminum fittings. Besure if using flared fittings t
hat your flaring tool makes a 37=C2=B0 aircraftflare, rather than the 45=C2
=B0 flare used in automotive applications. Flaredfittings should not need
any sealant. Pipe thread fittings, on the other hand,will leak without som
e kind of treatment of the threads. DO NOT USE Teflon orpipe dope
=93 they can get loose and clog your fuel system. The best stuffI=99
ve found is called Seal Lube. You can get it from ACS. A can is alifetime
supply. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/sealube.php
Good luck!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 20127:29 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: AN pipeand flair fittings
Planningmy fuels system (so many details-parts) is it best to use the AN al
uminum orsteel fittings?
Thanks,
Jack
Jack Textor
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Subject: | Re: AN pipe and flair fittings |
Thanks guys! Using 3/8 aluminum so will go with aluminum. Boy that sealant i
s pricy but looks like a good option. The seals look good too. Planning a ve
ry simple system, even so, lots of parts and details!
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Dec 4, 2012, at 6:29 AM, "Jack" <jack@textors.com> wrote:
> Planning my fuels system (so many details-parts) is it best to use the AN a
luminum or steel fittings?
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> Thanks,
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Jack Textor
On Dec 4, 2012, at 6:29 AM, "Jack" <jack@textors.com> wrote:
> Planning my fuels system (so many details-parts) is it best to use the AN a
luminum or steel fittings?
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> Thanks,
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> Jack
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Subject: | Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet... |
Thanks, I'll look up that book...
I buy the hole saws at a place called Tacoma Screw. They specialize in fasteners
(no aircraft) and contractor/industrial supplies....
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Subject: | Airlion flies again |
Today I flew the Airlion after a year and a half of rebuilding. It flies
great and now I can paint a smiley face back on the nose. Also I am now a
member of the UFO (the United Flying Octogenarians
(www.ufopilots.org<http://www.ufopilots.org>)
for old geezers who have flown as a PIC after their 80th birthday.
-Gardiner Mason
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Subject: | Airlion flies again |
Outstanding, Gardiner! Looks good as ever!
Will you be bringing it to Brodhead this summer?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gardiner
Mason
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 5:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Airlion flies again
Today I flew the Airlion after a year and a half of rebuilding. It flies
great and now I can paint a smiley face back on the nose. Also I am now a
member of the UFO (the United Flying Octogenarians (www.ufopilots.org
<http://www.ufopilots.org> ) for old geezers who have flown as a PIC after
their 80th birthday.
-Gardiner Mason
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Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
Congratulations Gardiner. Glad to see you back in the air. The plane looks g
reat!
Randy Bush
NX294RB
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 4, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Gardiner Mason <airlion2@gmail.com> wrote:
> Today I flew the Airlion after a year and a half of rebuilding. It flies g
reat and now I can paint a smiley face back on the nose. Also I am now a mem
ber of the UFO (the United Flying Octogenarians (www.ufopilots.org) for old g
eezers who have flown as a PIC after their 80th birthday.
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> -Gardiner Mason
> <Pietenpol 12.042012.jpg>
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Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
Beautiful, Gardiner! Love the colors...and the louvers!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 4, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Gardiner Mason <airlion2@gmail.com> wrote:
> Today I flew the Airlion after a year and a half of rebuilding. It flies g
reat and now I can paint a smiley face back on the nose. Also I am now a mem
ber of the UFO (the United Flying Octogenarians (www.ufopilots.org) for old g
eezers who have flown as a PIC after their 80th birthday.
>
> -Gardiner Mason
> <Pietenpol 12.042012.jpg>
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Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
Congrats, Gardiner. I hope to be able to join the UFO this coming
summer. I had a mild heart attack in 1990 and voluntarily "lost" my
medical. So I have never been turned down for a medical. Haven't flown
as PIC since. Piet NX10003 should be ready by summer time. I'll get a
friend who owns a T-Craft and who holds his instructors rating give me a
new BFR to catch me up and then I'll be ready to join the UFO. Don't
have any idea how many flights and hours that will take. Just have to
wait and see. Can't wait to put full power on the Corvair and go
flying. Chills run up my spine just thinking of it. When people see my
project they say, "Are you going to fly it?" And I reply, "Has a cat
got a long tail?" I have just about everything except the covering
supplies to finish up. Just a matter of time. Again, congratulations.
Chuck
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From: Jack Phillips
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 5:53 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Airlion flies again
Outstanding, Gardiner! Looks good as ever!
Will you be bringing it to Brodhead this summer?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gardiner
Mason
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 5:47 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Airlion flies again
Today I flew the Airlion after a year and a half of rebuilding. It
flies great and now I can paint a smiley face back on the nose. Also I
am now a member of the UFO (the United Flying Octogenarians
(www.ufopilots.org) for old geezers who have flown as a PIC after their
80th birthday.
-Gardiner Mason
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Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
Hi Gardiner,
Congratulations on having your Piet in the air again and also for joining the UFO's!!!
Your Piet looks good; I don't see color real well but to me it looks blue with
orange wings and hor.stabilizer, is that right?
The way I'm going I will be a member of the UFO's before I get my PIet flying.
Cheers,
Jim B.
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Subject: | One piece wing and fuselage hauling. |
Finally got our Piet back home. Pondered how to move the one piece wing endlessly
until we found the perfect trailer sitting in the weeds at a friend's house.
It's made from a 32' bumper towed camper. I've seen similar usable units for sale
bunches of times over the years for under a grand. Pretty certain if you
found a total junker you could get it for $500 or less. That's more than the
average scrap value of one that sized, and probably far less than you could buy
the axles ($200 ea new) hubs, tires, metal and decking.
The basic trailer is exactly the chord of the wing (5') and about 32' after the
tongue. I designed a specialized sawhorse and method of loading not requiring
any lifting equipment to get the fuselage over the wing (as the wheel spacing
won't straddle it) so that tongue weight can be optimized.
Since we used a one ton dually, the 600lbs of tongue weight we had wasn't a problem,
so I never got around to building the sawhorse.
A similar but less heavy duty sawhorse would also secure the tail, although the
method we wound up using worked really really well.
The rig made the 400 mile trip with nothing moving, requiring rerigging or getting
damaged at all.
The wing is set on several large tarps for cushioning and the ratchet straps are
run diagonally which spread out the downforce very effectively.
Four guys got the wing off effortlessly and set it on the trailer. We then took
the trailer off the truck and and rolled the fuse on from the front of the trailer
using the 3' or so extra deck space. Without tail feathers or the wing,
it's about perfectly neutral on the axle. We used scrap 2x6's to bock the wheels.
It took 4 guys about an hour to load it all up, then Scott and I spent
another three strapping it all down (figuring the plan as we went). I imagine
we could do it now in about two hours total. No lifting equipment was required
at all.
At normal interstate speeds, nothing shook, rattled or rolled, it all worked out
really well.
We just borrowed the trailer, but think we're going to be able to buy it, if anyone
needs to borrow it to retrieve a plane or move a one piece wing. If the
fuse were centered on the trailer (over the wing) a ANY half ton truck could move
the unit easily.
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Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
Congratulations Mr. Mason!! Airlion looks great. I've got her photo as my
desktop.
Greg Bacon
NX114D (Mountain Piet)
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Gardiner Mason <airlion2@gmail.com> wrote:
> Today I flew the Airlion after a year and a half of rebuilding. It flies
> great and now I can paint a smiley face back on the nose. Also I am now a
> member of the UFO (the United Flying Octogenarians (www.ufopilots.org<http://www.ufopilots.org>)
> for old geezers who have flown as a PIC after their 80th birthday.
>
> -Gardiner Mason
>
--
Greg Bacon
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OK, not Piet related, but probably one of the few places where this might be appreciated.
Tonight on Jeopardy they had a category "Four" Letter Words, where
each answer (yes, in question form...) had "Four" in it. One of the clues was
something like "A deceptive person". I shouted out "Four-flusher!" which of
course was the right answer, astonishing my girlfriend, who had never heard
of such a thing, and who wanted to know how I knew what it was....
and was inspired to wiki it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_flush
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Nicely done Marybeth.
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Dec 4, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Baldeagle wrote:
<baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
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> OK, not Piet related, but probably one of the few places where this
might be appreciated. Tonight on Jeopardy they had a category "Four"
Letter Words, where each answer (yes, in question form...) had "Four" in
it. One of the clues was something like "A deceptive person". I
shouted out "Four-flusher!" which of course was the right answer,
astonishing my girlfriend, who had never heard of such a thing, and who
wanted to know how I knew what it was....
>
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> and was inspired to wiki it:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_flush
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Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
Gardiner--
It is great to see your plane back together again! Congratulations.
--Mac in Oregon
> Today I flew the Airlion after a year and a half of rebuilding. It flies
> great and now I can paint a smiley face back on the nose. Also I am now a
> member of the UFO (the United Flying Octogenarians
> (www.ufopilots.org<http://www.ufopilots.org>)
> for old geezers who have flown as a PIC after their 80th birthday.
>
> -Gardiner Mason
>
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Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
Way to go Gardiner! Hope to see you at Brodhead this summer!
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
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>> Today I flew the Airlion after a year and a half of rebuilding. It flies
>> great and now I can paint a smiley face back on the nose. Also I am now a
>> member of the UFO (the United Flying Octogenarians
>> (www.ufopilots.org<http://www.ufopilots.org>)
>> for old geezers who have flown as a PIC after their 80th birthday.
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>> -Gardiner Mason
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