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1. 03:18 AM - Re: Jeopardy (Don Emch)
2. 03:52 AM - Re: Airlion flies again (helspersew@aol.com)
3. 03:53 AM - Re: Airlion flies again (Jack)
4. 04:05 AM - Re: One piece wing and fuselage hauling. (helspersew@aol.com)
5. 04:12 AM - Re: Jeopardy (helspersew@aol.com)
6. 05:25 AM - Re: Airlion flies again (nightmare)
7. 05:39 AM - Re: Jeopardy (Wayne Bressler)
8. 05:43 AM - Re: Airlion flies again (echobravo4)
9. 05:48 AM - Re: Jeopardy (Amsafetyc)
10. 05:55 AM - Gardiner (Douwe Blumberg)
11. 06:03 AM - Re: AN pipe and flair fittings (Michael Perez)
12. 06:05 AM - Re: Airlion flies again (Michael Perez)
13. 06:10 AM - Re: AN pipe and flair fittings (Michael Perez)
14. 06:24 AM - Re: Airlion flies again (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
15. 06:34 AM - Re: Airlion flies again (C N Campbell)
16. 06:37 AM - Re: Airlion flies again (Hans van der Voort)
17. 06:56 AM - Re: Re: Airlion flies again (Gardiner Mason)
18. 07:15 AM - Re: Airlion Flies Again (woodflier)
19. 07:28 AM - Re: Jeopardy (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
20. 07:31 AM - Re: Jeopardy (Baldeagle)
21. 07:46 AM - Re: One piece wing and fuselage hauling. (Ryan Mueller)
22. 07:46 AM - Re: One piece wing and fuselage hauling. (Baldeagle)
23. 08:05 AM - Re: Jeopardy (TOM STINEMETZE)
24. 08:06 AM - Re: Re: One piece wing and fuselage hauling. (Matthew)
25. 08:28 AM - Re: Re: One piece wing and fuselage hauling. (Greg Bacon)
26. 08:48 AM - Re: Jeopardy (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
27. 09:12 AM - Re: Jeopardy (Amsafetyc)
28. 10:07 AM - Re: Airlion flies again (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
29. 11:31 AM - Re: Jeopardy (Don Emch)
30. 01:37 PM - Re: Re: Airlion flies again (Allan Macklem)
31. 04:57 PM - Re: Jeopardy (ken anderson)
32. 05:34 PM - Think Ahead Builders (Jack)
33. 08:43 PM - Re: Think Ahead Builders (aerocarjake)
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Please don't tell us that Julie has never seen "The Movie"....
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
Way to go Gardiner! Love the way the sun shines through the orange wings. P
erseverance pays off once again!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Gardiner Mason <airlion2@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 4:49 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Airlion flies again
Today I flew the Airlion after a year and a half of rebuilding. It flies gr
eat and now I can paint a smiley face back on the nose. Also I am now a mem
ber of the UFO (the United Flying Octogenarians (www.ufopilots.org) for old
geezers who have flown as a PIC after their 80th birthday.
-Gardiner Mason
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| Subject: | Airlion flies again |
Gardiner what fantastic accomplishments!
Congratulations!
Jack Textor
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gardiner
Mason
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 4:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Airlion flies again
Today I flew the Airlion after a year and a half of rebuilding. It flies
great and now I can paint a smiley face back on the nose. Also I am now a
member of the UFO (the United Flying Octogenarians (www.ufopilots.org
<http://www.ufopilots.org> ) for old geezers who have flown as a PIC after
their 80th birthday.
-Gardiner Mason
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| Subject: | Re: One piece wing and fuselage hauling. |
Tools,
Thanks for that post with the info and pics. One of my recurring nightmares
is "landing out" and trying to figure out how to move it all with the one-
piece wing. I will be on the lookout for one of those trailers. I live in t
he right place these days to look for that kind of stuff. A lot of good use
ful "junk" around these parts.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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LOVE IT! This is further confirmation of the immense value in the memorizat
ion of the entire script.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Baldeagle <baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 9:13 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
t>
OK, not Piet related, but probably one of the few places where this might b
e
appreciated. Tonight on Jeopardy they had a category "Four" Letter Words,
where each answer (yes, in question form...) had "Four" in it. One of the
clues
was something like "A deceptive person". I shouted out "Four-flusher!" whi
ch of
course was the right answer, astonishing my girlfriend, who had never heard
of
such a thing, and who wanted to know how I knew what it was....
and was inspired to wiki it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_flush
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| Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
Hello Gardiner; just sent you an email, but figured others would want to know the
following also. is the gauge hanging from your center section a fuel gauge
or compass? if a fuel gauge, would love to find out your setup. thanks; Paul
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In adults, it's a lot of fun, but as my wife and I discovered this week, som
e lines aren't quite kid-appropriate. My two and four year old were caught c
hasing each other around the house screaming "You bastard!".
At least nobody got hit with a tomato.
Wayne Bressler
Taildraggers, Inc.
www.taildraggersinc.com
On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:12 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
> LOVE IT! This is further confirmation of the immense value in the memoriza
tion of the entire script.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Baldeagle <baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 9:13 pm
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
>
et>
>
> OK, not Piet related, but probably one of the few places where this might b
e
> appreciated. Tonight on Jeopardy they had a category "Four" Letter Words
,
> where each answer (yes, in question form...) had "Four" in it. One of the
clues
> was something like "A deceptive person". I shouted out "Four-flusher!" wh
ich of
> course was the right answer, astonishing my girlfriend, who had never hear
d of
> such a thing, and who wanted to know how I knew what it was....
>
>
> and was inspired to wiki it:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_flush
>
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| Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
Congratulations Gardiner!
She looks great!
Earl
--------
Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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The proper application of language by children is an important milestone in t
he developmental skills of social development.
Well done
John
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 5, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Wayne Bressler <wayne@taildraggersinc.com> wrote
:
> In adults, it's a lot of fun, but as my wife and I discovered this week, s
ome lines aren't quite kid-appropriate. My two and four year old were caugh
t chasing each other around the house screaming "You bastard!".
>
> At least nobody got hit with a tomato.
>
> Wayne Bressler
> Taildraggers, Inc.
> www.taildraggersinc.com
>
> On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:12 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>
>> LOVE IT! This is further confirmation of the immense value in the memoriz
ation of the entire script.
>>
>> Dan Helsper
>> Puryear, TN
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Baldeagle <baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
>> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 9:13 pm
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
>>
net>
>>
>> OK, not Piet related, but probably one of the few places where this might
be
>> appreciated. Tonight on Jeopardy they had a category "Four" Letter Word
s,
>> where each answer (yes, in question form...) had "Four" in it. One of th
e clues
>> was something like "A deceptive person". I shouted out "Four-flusher!" w
hich of
>> course was the right answer, astonishing my girlfriend, who had never hea
rd of
>> such a thing, and who wanted to know how I knew what it was....
>>
>>
>> and was inspired to wiki it:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_flush
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>> --------
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389861#389861
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
>> " target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
>> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>> tp://forums.matronics.com
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My hat's off to you Gardiner! Takes backbone to rebuild one.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: AN pipe and flair fittings |
Those seals...sometimes known as conical seas or voyshams, are great and work very
well. Here at work, we are getting away from the AN flare type connection
all together, but for the systems that still use these fittings, the copper AN
flare seals are a life saver.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
That is very cool. I like the UFO thingy...I hope to be a member someday!
- Congratulations.
Michael Perez
=0APietenpol HINT Videos
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com=0A
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| Subject: | Re: AN pipe and flair fittings |
...make that conical seals...
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
Gardiner,
She looks great! Make sure you paint a smile as big as yours was!
Congrats!
--------
Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
Michael, I am a LOT closer to UFO than you are! C
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Perez
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Airlion flies again
That is very cool. I like the UFO thingy...I hope to be a member
someday! Congratulations.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
Congrats on the rebuild and the UFO part.=0AMany happy Landings (and parkin
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From: Gardiner Mason <airlion2@gmail.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.c
om =0ASent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 4:46 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Ai
rlion flies again=0A =0A=0AToday I flew the Airlion after a year and a hal
f of rebuilding. It flies great and now I can paint a smiley face back on t
he nose. Also I am now a member of the UFO (the United Flying Octogenarians
(www.ufopilots.org) for old geezers who have flown as a PIC after their 80
th birthday. =0A=0A-Gardiner Mason
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| Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
It is a compass and my fuel gage is up there also. It is a capacitance gage
that fits flush, and seen from my seat. Gardiner
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:24 AM, nightmare <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>wrote:
> pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello Gardiner; just sent you an email, but figured others would want to
> know the following also. is the gauge hanging from your center section a
> fuel gauge or compass? if a fuel gauge, would love to find out your setup.
> thanks; Paul
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389879#389879
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Airlion Flies Again |
That's great news, Gardiner! I have a hard time imagining how you and Douwe
sucked it up to rebuild after having built the airplane once already. My e
xperience at Oshkosh last year having only to rebuild the left elevator gav
e me some insight, but that was colored by the urgency of getting it finish
ed so I could fly home. Keeping that motivation - gotta be hard! Can't wait
to see it in person.
Matt Paxton
NX629ML
Fairfield, VA
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I do not curse in the house, Never have. I try to save cursing for a time when
it is appropriate, IE when I slam my finger in a door. Or when I am commenting
on another drivers parentage.
Once when I got mad I said "Oh Fudge!" (or something that rhymes with it) at home.
Immeadiately my 4 year old was running through the house jumping and yelling
"Oh Fudge!" a the top of his lungs. I looked at my wife and asked what to do.
She said "ignore it and maybe he will forget it." Sure enough he is now 12
and we have not heard it since. At least he does not say it around us.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
----- Original Message -----
From: Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
> The proper application of language by children is an important
> milestone in the developmental skills of social development.
>
> Well done
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 5, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Wayne Bressler < wrote:
>
> > In adults, it's a lot of fun, but as my wife and I discovered this week, some
lines aren't quite kid-appropriate. My two and four year old were caught chasing
each other around the house screaming "You bastard!".
> >
> > At least nobody got hit with a tomato.
> >
> > Wayne Bressler
> > Taildraggers, Inc.
> > www.taildraggersinc.com
> >
> > On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:12 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> LOVE IT! This is further confirmation of the immense value in the memorization
of the entire script.
> >>
> >> Dan Helsper
> >> Puryear, TN
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Baldeagle <
> >> To: pietenpol-list <
> >> Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 9:13 pm
> >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
> >>
> >>
> >> OK, not Piet related, but probably one of the few places where this might
be
> >> appreciated. Tonight on Jeopardy they had a category "Four" Letter Words,
> >> where each answer (yes, in question form...) had "Four" in it. One of the
clues
> >> was something like "A deceptive person". I shouted out "Four-flusher!" which
of
> >> course was the right answer, astonishing my girlfriend, who had never heard
of
> >> such a thing, and who wanted to know how I knew what it was....
> >>
> >>
> >> and was inspired to wiki it:
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_flush
> >>
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> --------
> >> do not archive
> >>
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> >> Read this topic online here:
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> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389861#389861
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> >> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
> >> " target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
> >> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
> >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Julie has seen it, but only once I think, not enough to memorize any of it. I
watched it once with a bunch of non-airplane friends, and at the end somebody
said, "but everybody dies!" Maybe not everybody, but I realized that I never
noticed the tragedy as much as the adventure.
I read once that the film makers realized during a test screening that they had
made a huge mistake having Mary Beth die, that the audience had a very negative
reaction to this, but it was too late to change it. Redford in the viewer's
eyes was supposed to be a hero who saved the girl, when he didn't the reaction
was negative and that's one of the reasons why the box office wasn't that good.
I knew Jim Appleby a little bit, and amongst other stories he told me that the
really large woman that Waldo apparently takes up near the beginning really wanted
a ride in the Standard, but they were afraid she wouldn't fit, so they made
excuses until it go too dark. At a party once we tried to get Jim to say his
one line from the film, "I knew she wasn't worth top billing..." but he wouldn't
say it.
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| Subject: | Re: One piece wing and fuselage hauling. |
Congrats on getting her back home. Hopefully you can get her back in the
air in time for a sojourn to Brodhead next summer.
Just curious, as it's hard to tell for sure from the angles of the
shots....what's the status of the aft part of the fuselage? It appears that
the last, say 12 inches, is "bent" downward; I know, wood would be broken,
not bent....just as far as a description though. Hope the repairs go well,
Ryan
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 7:23 PM, tools <n0kkj@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Finally got our Piet back home. Pondered how to move the one piece wing
> endlessly until we found the perfect trailer sitting in the weeds at a
> friend's house.
>
> It's made from a 32' bumper towed camper. I've seen similar usable units
> for sale bunches of times over the years for under a grand. Pretty certain
> if you found a total junker you could get it for $500 or less. That's more
> than the average scrap value of one that sized, and probably far less than
> you could buy the axles ($200 ea new) hubs, tires, metal and decking.
>
> The basic trailer is exactly the chord of the wing (5') and about 32'
> after the tongue. I designed a specialized sawhorse and method of loading
> not requiring any lifting equipment to get the fuselage over the wing (as
> the wheel spacing won't straddle it) so that tongue weight can be optimized.
>
> Since we used a one ton dually, the 600lbs of tongue weight we had wasn't
> a problem, so I never got around to building the sawhorse.
>
> A similar but less heavy duty sawhorse would also secure the tail,
> although the method we wound up using worked really really well.
>
> The rig made the 400 mile trip with nothing moving, requiring rerigging or
> getting damaged at all.
>
> The wing is set on several large tarps for cushioning and the ratchet
> straps are run diagonally which spread out the downforce very effectively.
>
>
> Four guys got the wing off effortlessly and set it on the trailer. We
> then took the trailer off the truck and and rolled the fuse on from the
> front of the trailer using the 3' or so extra deck space. Without tail
> feathers or the wing, it's about perfectly neutral on the axle. We used
> scrap 2x6's to bock the wheels. It took 4 guys about an hour to load it
> all up, then Scott and I spent another three strapping it all down
> (figuring the plan as we went). I imagine we could do it now in about two
> hours total. No lifting equipment was required at all.
>
> At normal interstate speeds, nothing shook, rattled or rolled, it all
> worked out really well.
>
> We just borrowed the trailer, but think we're going to be able to buy it,
> if anyone needs to borrow it to retrieve a plane or move a one piece wing.
> If the fuse were centered on the trailer (over the wing) a ANY half ton
> truck could move the unit easily.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389856#389856
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: One piece wing and fuselage hauling. |
When we had to get the Rudolph Piet out of the bean field in '09 we used a 24 foot
enclosed trailer, propped the wing up in the top, with about 6 feet sticking
out the back, and put the fuselage underneath. You worry about drivers behind
you, but it was what was available and it worked OK. Had to prop the door
open also so it wouldn't drop on the wing. Wish I had photos.
-
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Steve:
Surely you were taught correctly in shop class to measure twice and curse once.
By the way, I know it is not a reference to our favorite movie TGWP but that phrase
"Oh Fudge" does come from a seasonal favorite: "The Christmas Story" wherein
the story narrator as a boy exclaims "Oh Fudge (but the word wasn't really
Fudge)" to his father as he watches the lug nuts from the wheel, he is for the
first time helping his father change, go sparkling off into the distance like
stars in the sky. That, of course, leads to the famous "blinded by Lifebuoy
soap" episode.
Ah, where would we be without those handy movie references?
Relevance, what relevance" Um, oh - - Well my Piet does not have any lug nuts
so I guess I will just go away now.
Stinemetze,
Merry Christmas, all y'all
do not archive
>>> "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> 12/5/2012
9:27 AM >>>
I do not curse in the house, Never have. I try to save cursing for a time when
it is appropriate, IE when I slam my finger in a door. Or when I am commenting
on another drivers parentage.
Once when I got mad I said "Oh Fudge!" (or something that rhymes with it) at home.
Immeadiately my 4 year old was running through the house jumping and yelling
"Oh Fudge!" a the top of his lungs. I looked at my wife and asked what to do.
She said "ignore it and maybe he will forget it." Sure enough he is now 12
and we have not heard it since. At least he does not say it around us.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
----- Original Message -----
From: Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
> The proper application of language by children is an important
> milestone in the developmental skills of social development.
>
> Well done
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 5, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Wayne Bressler < wrote:
>
> > In adults, it's a lot of fun, but as my wife and I discovered this week, some
lines aren't quite kid-appropriate. My two and four year old were caught chasing
each other around the house screaming "You bastard!".
> >
> > At least nobody got hit with a tomato.
> >
> > Wayne Bressler
> > Taildraggers, Inc.
> > www.taildraggersinc.com
> >
> > On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:12 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> LOVE IT! This is further confirmation of the immense value in the memorization
of the entire script.
> >>
> >> Dan Helsper
> >> Puryear, TN
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Baldeagle <
> >> To: pietenpol-list <
> >> Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 9:13 pm
> >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
> >>
> >>
> >> OK, not Piet related, but probably one of the few places where this might
be
> >> appreciated. Tonight on Jeopardy they had a category "Four" Letter Words,
> >> where each answer (yes, in question form...) had "Four" in it. One of the
clues
> >> was something like "A deceptive person". I shouted out "Four-flusher!" which
of
> >> course was the right answer, astonishing my girlfriend, who had never heard
of
> >> such a thing, and who wanted to know how I knew what it was....
> >>
> >>
> >> and was inspired to wiki it:
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_flush
> >>
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> --------
> >> do not archive
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Read this topic online here:
> >>
> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389861#389861
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
> >> " target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
> >> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
> >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> >> tp://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: One piece wing and fuselage hauling. |
That is exactly how I moved grandpa's Piet. I used 3' x 12' strips of carpet with
the biggest washers I could find to support the wing, with the trailer door
tied open. Large pieces of foam between the wing and trailer wall to keep it
from bouncing off the wall
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 5, 2012, at 10:46 AM, "Baldeagle" <baldeagle27@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> When we had to get the Rudolph Piet out of the bean field in '09 we used a 24
foot enclosed trailer, propped the wing up in the top, with about 6 feet sticking
out the back, and put the fuselage underneath. You worry about drivers behind
you, but it was what was available and it worked OK. Had to prop the door
open also so it wouldn't drop on the wing. Wish I had photos.
>
>
>
> -
>
> --------
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389898#389898
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: One piece wing and fuselage hauling. |
Here's a pic of how we hauled Mtn. Piet from Jefferson, IA to Prairie Home,
MO (325 miles). Built a box for the good wing panel. The box was really a
frame covered with a tarp. The destroyed wind rode home on the top of
the truck. Didn't get a scratch on the fuse or good wing. It got a log of
interest at gas stations!
Greg Bacon
NX114D (Mountain Piet)
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Matthew <matthew.vandervort@gmail.com>wrote:
> matthew.vandervort@gmail.com>
>
> That is exactly how I moved grandpa's Piet. I used 3' x 12' strips of
> carpet with the biggest washers I could find to support the wing, with the
> trailer door tied open. Large pieces of foam between the wing and trailer
> wall to keep it from bouncing off the wall
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 5, 2012, at 10:46 AM, "Baldeagle" <baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
> >
> > When we had to get the Rudolph Piet out of the bean field in '09 we used
> a 24 foot enclosed trailer, propped the wing up in the top, with about 6
> feet sticking out the back, and put the fuselage underneath. You worry
> about drivers behind you, but it was what was available and it worked OK.
> Had to prop the door open also so it wouldn't drop on the wing. Wish I
> had photos.
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> >
> > --------
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389898#389898
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Greg Bacon
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I had an opportunity to teach my other boy some new words when I pinched my right
index finger in a hangar door, but It hurt so bad I could not speak. Worse,
it happened in slow motion and no one was to blame but me. It hurt so bad I
could not even kick a dog.
"Now, I had heard that word at least ten times a day from my old man. He worked
in profanity the way other artists might work in oils or clay. It was his true
medium; a master."
Ralph as he beat up the bully.
"I have since heard of people under extreme duress speaking in strange tongues.
I became conscious that a steady torrent of obscenities and swearing of all kinds
was pouring out of me as I screamed."
Yes two of my favorite movies.
Blue "Fudge" free Skies,
Steve D
----- Original Message -----
From: TOM STINEMETZE <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
>
> Steve:
>
> Surely you were taught correctly in shop class to measure twice and curse once.
>
> By the way, I know it is not a reference to our favorite movie TGWP but that
phrase "Oh Fudge" does come from a seasonal favorite: "The
> Christmas Story" wherein the story narrator as a boy exclaims "Oh
> Fudge (but the word wasn't really Fudge)" to his father as he
> watches the lug nuts from the wheel, he is for the first time
> helping his father change, go sparkling off into the distance like
> stars in the sky. That, of course, leads to the famous "blinded
> by Lifebuoy soap" episode.
>
> Ah, where would we be without those handy movie references?
>
> Relevance, what relevance" Um, oh - - Well my Piet does not have
> any lug nuts so I guess I will just go away now.
>
> Stinemetze,
> Merry Christmas, all y'all
> do not archive
>
>
>
> >>> "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" < 12/5/2012 9:27 AM >>>
>
> I do not curse in the house, Never have. I try to save cursing for a time when
it is appropriate, IE when I slam my finger in a door. Or when I am commenting
on another drivers parentage.
>
> Once when I got mad I said "Oh Fudge!" (or something that rhymes with it) at
home. Immeadiately my 4 year old was running through the house jumping and yelling
"Oh Fudge!" a the top of his lungs. I looked at my wife and asked what to
do. She said "ignore it and maybe he will forget it." Sure enough he is now 12
and we have not heard it since. At least he does not say it around us.
>
> Blue Skies,
> Steve D
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Amsafetyc <
> Date: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 7:53
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
> To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <
>
>
> > The proper application of language by children is an important
> > milestone in the developmental skills of social development.
> >
> > Well done
> >
> > John
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Dec 5, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Wayne Bressler <>
> > > In adults, it's a lot of fun, but as my wife and I discovered this week,
some lines aren't quite kid-appropriate. My two and four year old were caught
chasing each other around the house screaming "You bastard!".
> > >
> > > At least nobody got hit with a tomato.
> > >
> > > Wayne Bressler
> > > Taildraggers, Inc.
> > > www.taildraggersinc.com
> > >
> > > On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:12 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > >> LOVE IT! This is further confirmation of the immense value in the memorization
of the entire script.
> > >>
> > >> Dan Helsper
> > >> Puryear, TN
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Baldeagle <> >> To: pietenpol-list <> >> Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 9:13
pm
> > >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
> > >>
> > >> OK, not Piet related, but probably one of the few places where this might
be
> > >> appreciated. Tonight on Jeopardy they had a category "Four" Letter Words,
> > >> where each answer (yes, in question form...) had "Four" in it. One of the
clues
> > >> was something like "A deceptive person". I shouted out "Four-flusher!"
which of
> > >> course was the right answer, astonishing my girlfriend, who had never heard
of
> > >> such a thing, and who wanted to know how I knew what it was....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> and was inspired to wiki it:
> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_flush
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -
> > >>
> > >> --------
> > >> do not archive
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Read this topic online here:
> > >>
> > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389861#389861
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
> > >> " target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
> > >> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
> > >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> > >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> > >> tp://forums.matronics.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > 3D============================================
> > 3D============================================
> > 3D============================================
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Just don't shoot your eye out!
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 5, 2012, at 11:48 AM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
wrote:
>
> I had an opportunity to teach my other boy some new words when I pinched my right
index finger in a hangar door, but It hurt so bad I could not speak. Worse,
it happened in slow motion and no one was to blame but me. It hurt so bad
I could not even kick a dog.
>
> "Now, I had heard that word at least ten times a day from my old man. He worked
in profanity the way other artists might work in oils or clay. It was his true
medium; a master."
>
> Ralph as he beat up the bully.
> "I have since heard of people under extreme duress speaking in strange tongues.
I became conscious that a steady torrent of obscenities and swearing of all
kinds was pouring out of me as I screamed."
>
> Yes two of my favorite movies.
>
> Blue "Fudge" free Skies,
> Steve D
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: TOM STINEMETZE <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:16
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>
>>
>> Steve:
>>
>> Surely you were taught correctly in shop class to measure twice and curse once.
>>
>> By the way, I know it is not a reference to our favorite movie TGWP but that
phrase "Oh Fudge" does come from a seasonal favorite: "The
>> Christmas Story" wherein the story narrator as a boy exclaims "Oh
>> Fudge (but the word wasn't really Fudge)" to his father as he
>> watches the lug nuts from the wheel, he is for the first time
>> helping his father change, go sparkling off into the distance like
>> stars in the sky. That, of course, leads to the famous "blinded
>> by Lifebuoy soap" episode.
>>
>> Ah, where would we be without those handy movie references?
>>
>> Relevance, what relevance" Um, oh - - Well my Piet does not have
>> any lug nuts so I guess I will just go away now.
>>
>> Stinemetze,
>> Merry Christmas, all y'all
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" < 12/5/2012 9:27 AM >>>
>>
>> I do not curse in the house, Never have. I try to save cursing for a time when
it is appropriate, IE when I slam my finger in a door. Or when I am commenting
on another drivers parentage.
>>
>> Once when I got mad I said "Oh Fudge!" (or something that rhymes with it) at
home. Immeadiately my 4 year old was running through the house jumping and yelling
"Oh Fudge!" a the top of his lungs. I looked at my wife and asked what to
do. She said "ignore it and maybe he will forget it." Sure enough he is now
12 and we have not heard it since. At least he does not say it around us.
>>
>> Blue Skies,
>> Steve D
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Amsafetyc <
>> Date: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 7:53
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
>> To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <
>>
>>
>>> The proper application of language by children is an important
>>> milestone in the developmental skills of social development.
>>>
>>> Well done
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Wayne Bressler <>
>>>> In adults, it's a lot of fun, but as my wife and I discovered this week, some
lines aren't quite kid-appropriate. My two and four year old were caught
chasing each other around the house screaming "You bastard!".
>>>>
>>>> At least nobody got hit with a tomato.
>>>>
>>>> Wayne Bressler
>>>> Taildraggers, Inc.
>>>> www.taildraggersinc.com
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:12 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LOVE IT! This is further confirmation of the immense value in the memorization
of the entire script.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan Helsper
>>>>> Puryear, TN
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Baldeagle <> >> To: pietenpol-list <> >> Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 9:13
pm
>>>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, not Piet related, but probably one of the few places where this might
be
>>>>> appreciated. Tonight on Jeopardy they had a category "Four" Letter Words,
>>>>> where each answer (yes, in question form...) had "Four" in it. One of the
clues
>>>>> was something like "A deceptive person". I shouted out "Four-flusher!" which
of
>>>>> course was the right answer, astonishing my girlfriend, who had never heard
of
>>>>> such a thing, and who wanted to know how I knew what it was....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and was inspired to wiki it:
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_flush
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> --------
>>>>> do not archive
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389861#389861
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
>>>>> " target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
>>>>> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
>>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com
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Beautiful Job,Gardner
John
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The tragedy of "everyone dying" is a little hard to ignore. Because of that I
don't think my wife will ever watch it again. And it is a little hard to explain
to the kids the "someone get me a 2 by 4 scene" and then expect them to go
hop in the Piet and go for a ride. Come to think of it, it is kind of a 'dark'
movie and not very good. But for some reason because of all you Piet guys I
want to watch it over and over!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: Airlion flies again |
Gardner, really nice job. I'm curious about the fuel gauge. I assume a
capacitance gauge measures capacity of the tank (however that is done). I
assume that with two gauges one could measure two tanks. I like the idea of
fuel gauges fitting flush on the wing center, yet visible from the cockpit.
Can you please let me know the brand and source for these gauges?
Allan Macklem
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gardiner
Mason
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Airlion flies again
It is a compass and my fuel gage is up there also. It is a capacitance gage
that fits flush, and seen from my seat. Gardiner
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:24 AM, nightmare <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
Hello Gardiner; just sent you an email, but figured others would want to
know the following also. is the gauge hanging from your center section a
fuel gauge or compass? if a fuel gauge, would love to find out your setup.
thanks; Paul
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Had to chime in.
I speak 3 languages fluently
English
Sarcasm
Profanity
Do not archive
On Dec 5, 2012 11:16 AM, "Amsafetyc" <amsafetyc@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Just don't shoot your eye out!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 5, 2012, at 11:48 AM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <
> steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote:
>
> <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
> >
> > I had an opportunity to teach my other boy some new words when I pinched
> my right index finger in a hangar door, but It hurt so bad I could not
> speak. Worse, it happened in slow motion and no one was to blame but me.
> It hurt so bad I could not even kick a dog.
> >
> > "Now, I had heard that word at least ten times a day from my old man. He
> worked in profanity the way other artists might work in oils or clay. It
> was his true medium; a master."
> >
> > Ralph as he beat up the bully.
> > "I have since heard of people under extreme duress speaking in strange
> tongues. I became conscious that a steady torrent of obscenities and
> swearing of all kinds was pouring out of me as I screamed."
> >
> > Yes two of my favorite movies.
> >
> > Blue "Fudge" free Skies,
> > Steve D
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: TOM STINEMETZE <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:16
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Steve:
> >>
> >> Surely you were taught correctly in shop class to measure twice and
> curse once.
> >>
> >> By the way, I know it is not a reference to our favorite movie TGWP but
> that phrase "Oh Fudge" does come from a seasonal favorite: "The
> >> Christmas Story" wherein the story narrator as a boy exclaims "Oh
> >> Fudge (but the word wasn't really Fudge)" to his father as he
> >> watches the lug nuts from the wheel, he is for the first time
> >> helping his father change, go sparkling off into the distance like
> >> stars in the sky. That, of course, leads to the famous "blinded
> >> by Lifebuoy soap" episode.
> >>
> >> Ah, where would we be without those handy movie references?
> >>
> >> Relevance, what relevance" Um, oh - - Well my Piet does not have
> >> any lug nuts so I guess I will just go away now.
> >>
> >> Stinemetze,
> >> Merry Christmas, all y'all
> >> do not archive
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" < 12/5/2012 9:27 AM >>>
> NGB" <
> >>
> >> I do not curse in the house, Never have. I try to save cursing for a
> time when it is appropriate, IE when I slam my finger in a door. Or when I
> am commenting on another drivers parentage.
> >>
> >> Once when I got mad I said "Oh Fudge!" (or something that rhymes with
> it) at home. Immeadiately my 4 year old was running through the house
> jumping and yelling "Oh Fudge!" a the top of his lungs. I looked at my wife
> and asked what to do. She said "ignore it and maybe he will forget it."
> Sure enough he is now 12 and we have not heard it since. At least he does
> not say it around us.
> >>
> >> Blue Skies,
> >> Steve D
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Amsafetyc <
> >> Date: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 7:53
> >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
> >> To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <
> >>
> >>
> >>> The proper application of language by children is an important
> >>> milestone in the developmental skills of social development.
> >>>
> >>> Well done
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 5, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Wayne Bressler <>
> >>>> In adults, it's a lot of fun, but as my wife and I discovered this
> week, some lines aren't quite kid-appropriate. My two and four year old
> were caught chasing each other around the house screaming "You bastard!".
> >>>>
> >>>> At least nobody got hit with a tomato.
> >>>>
> >>>> Wayne Bressler
> >>>> Taildraggers, Inc.
> >>>> www.taildraggersinc.com
> >>>>
> >>>> On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:12 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> LOVE IT! This is further confirmation of the immense value in the
> memorization of the entire script.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dan Helsper
> >>>>> Puryear, TN
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Baldeagle <> >> To: pietenpol-list <> >> Sent: Tue, Dec 4,
> 2012 9:13 pm
> >>>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jeopardy
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OK, not Piet related, but probably one of the few places where this
> might be
> >>>>> appreciated. Tonight on Jeopardy they had a category "Four" Letter
> Words,
> >>>>> where each answer (yes, in question form...) had "Four" in it. One
> of the clues
> >>>>> was something like "A deceptive person". I shouted out
> "Four-flusher!" which of
> >>>>> course was the right answer, astonishing my girlfriend, who had
> never heard of
> >>>>> such a thing, and who wanted to know how I knew what it was....
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and was inspired to wiki it:
> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_flush
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --------
> >>>>> do not archive
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Read this topic online here:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389861#389861
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
> >>>>> " target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
> >>>>> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
> >>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> >>>>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> >>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com
> >>>
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> >>>
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| Subject: | Think Ahead Builders |
Just a reminder, don't rush, measure, think ahead, plan. Just redid my fuel selector.
Was proud of the install until I realized after drawing out my fuel system
it was on the wrong side. Moved to the port side and all is good. So many
interesting details at this stage of the build.
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
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| Subject: | Re: Think Ahead Builders |
Just fly inverted........
Do not archive
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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