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1. 03:15 AM - Re: Newbie with Piet questions...... (Jack)
2. 03:42 AM - Re: Newbie with Piet questions...... (Charles Burkholder)
3. 03:46 AM - Re: Newbie with Piet questions...... (Charles Burkholder)
4. 10:51 AM - Re: Newbie with Piet questions...... (jarheadpilot82)
5. 11:28 AM - Re: hand propping (bender)
6. 11:52 AM - Re: hand propping (AircamperN11MS)
7. 11:58 AM - Re: hand propping (DO NOT ARCHIVE)
8. 02:03 PM - Re: Newbie with Piet questions...... (Bill Church)
9. 07:04 PM - Stromberg mixture (Andre Abreu)
10. 08:46 PM - Re: Stromberg mixture (taildrags)
11. 09:14 PM - Re: Re: Stromberg mixture (Ken Bickers)
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie with Piet questions...... |
It's great you will get some local help. To be honest I would make sure the w
ork is good enough you will use it. I bought a project and only used the whe
els after rebuilding them. Look at everything very close...type of wood, cor
rect grain and orientation, glue joints, built to plans, 4130 metal, fitting
s well made, aircraft cable the correct size and fittings...lots of things t
o check!
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Dec 10, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> Charles,
>
> Congratulations on accomplishing such a milestone at a young age! I was ju
st about your age when I saw my first Pietenpol and vowed to someday build t
hat...that was 40 years ago, and have just accomplished that dream...
>
> I tend to agree with Mario, as I doubt there is not too much you couldn't f
ix at that price! It would also be very instructive for you to bring another
experienced builder with you...besides the obvious advantage of getting som
e free help loading it.
>
> Keep in mind that this is a multi-year commitment, even for the most commi
tted, even obsessive, builder. Please stay in touch with us and let us know h
ow it turns out. That project will have a special story, all its own.
>
> Gary Boothe
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> On Dec 10, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Mario Giacummo <mario.giacummo@gmail.com> wro
te:
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>> all the wood structure for 300 dollars?!?!?!?.. for this price.. buy it, g
et a set of plans and follow them, then look, this is ok, this not... rebuil
d here, rebuild there.. I do not know, I was joking, but shure there will be
someone near you thhat can help you.
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>> good look
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>> 2012/12/10 Charles Burkholder <born2fly@abcmailbox.net>
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>>> Hi all I am a newbie to the Pietenpole. I am a 19 yr old private pilot w
ho just got my license in a J3 Cub. I've been wanting to build a plane for y
ears, having helped build ones in the past and the Pietenpole with a Corvair
fits the bill. Especially that I found one for sale. Wings, fuse and tail f
or $300. The builder got alzheimers and his son is taking care of him and wa
nts to get rid of some of his plane projects. What all should I look for whe
n I go to look at it? Any spot in particular? =46rom what he told me he is a
very expericenced plane builder but what should I look for as far as work q
uality? Thanks in advance everyone......
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie with Piet questions...... |
great between you and scott we should be all set to go........ I'll let you
know a time and location soon.....
Regards,
Charles B
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Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
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> charles
> same goes for me , I live in waterloo and would be glad to
> have a look and help out in any way I can.
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie with Piet questions...... |
Thanks for the input everyone. The seller (builder's son) seems sort of
clueless as far as technical details go. He just wants to unload it. I'm
going to go into this project with my eyes wide open with a previous
builder along too.......For $300 it's still worth a look........ Will
keep you posted on results.......
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From: Gary Boothe
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
Charles,
Congratulations on accomplishing such a milestone at a young age! I
was just about your age when I saw my first Pietenpol and vowed to
someday build that...that was 40 years ago, and have just accomplished
that dream...
I tend to agree with Mario, as I doubt there is not too much you
couldn't fix at that price! It would also be very instructive for you to
bring another experienced builder with you...besides the obvious
advantage of getting some free help loading it.
Keep in mind that this is a multi-year commitment, even for the most
committed, even obsessive, builder. Please stay in touch with us and let
us know how it turns out. That project will have a special story, all
its own.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 10, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Mario Giacummo <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
wrote:
all the wood structure for 300 dollars?!?!?!?.. for this price.. buy
it, get a set of plans and follow them, then look, this is ok, this
not... rebuild here, rebuild there.. I do not know, I was joking, but
shure there will be someone near you thhat can help you.
good look
Mario Giacummo
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2012/12/10 Charles Burkholder <born2fly@abcmailbox.net>
<born2fly@abcmailbox.net>
Hi all I am a newbie to the Pietenpole. I am a 19 yr old private
pilot who just got my license in a J3 Cub. I've been wanting to build a
plane for years, having helped build ones in the past and the Pietenpole
with a Corvair fits the bill. Especially that I found one for sale.
Wings, fuse and tail for $300. The builder got alzheimers and his son is
taking care of him and wants to get rid of some of his plane projects.
What all should I look for when I go to look at it? Any spot in
particular? From what he told me he is a very expericenced plane builder
but what should I look for as far as work quality? Thanks in advance
everyone......
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie with Piet questions...... |
Tell him you want him to throw in the plans as well. By doing that you can have
something to compare the construction to once you look at it.
My $.02
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: hand propping |
I had a heck of a time starting my Piet with an A engine..
everyone else said it should fire right up after a couple of turns.... but with
the carb i'm running it just wouldn't happen without a shot of ether.
I added a primer line and its one pull now..
Like the others said... double check that you have spark at the right place and
time and a shot of starting fluid will tell you if it'll run.
$.02
jeff
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| Subject: | Re: hand propping |
Oscar,
It is quite common for the float needle to stick on these engines. Before you
spend too much time doing a bunch of trouble shooting, try this. Take a wood handled
hammer and while using the butt end, give the carb a few good taps just
above where the mixture control is . That is where you will see the two half's
of the carb body. I'm sure that is all you will need to do. I see it happen
all the time when an engine sits any length of time. My friend had to do this
every time he flew. Of coarse he only flew a few times a year.
Let me know how it goes,
Cheers,
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: hand propping |
Jeff:
They are all different, it seems. I've recently been doing some work on the carburetor
for NX311GP, and I discovered some of the reason that it always started
easily with no primer or choke: The model B carburetor had an oversize main
jet, and in reworking the throttle shaft for the conversion, the power circuit
was essentially "turned on" full time. If those two things wouldn't make for
a rich mixture, I'm not sure what would! It ran very well that way, but I'm
returning it to more of a stock setup and will see how it does on the new engine.
I'm afraid I may need a primer or a choke...
Have you been out stretching your wings yet?
--------
Brett Phillips
PLEASE DO NOT ARCHIVE!
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie with Piet questions...... |
Hi Charles.
Welcome to the group. I'm the guy that Scott mentioned. If our schedules can mesh,
I'd be glad to offer any assistance I can. After building and studying the
plans for about 8 years, one tends to get pretty familiar with the details.
Feel free to contact me offlist when you have some details firmed up, or if
you just have questions.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Stromberg mixture |
Is there a way to increase the mixture in these Stromberg carbs?
Getting cold you know.
Thanks
Andy abreu
N6186L
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| Subject: | Re: Stromberg mixture |
Andy;
If your Stromberg has the mixture adjustment parts installed, I would assume that
you can adjust the mixture. Most of them have the mixture wired full rich
or have had the adjustment parts removed though.
The operating manuals for many aircraft that had the mixture adjustment said not
to adjust the mixture below about 5000 ft. There is some good technical information
available about the mixture control on these carbs, but I have forgotten
where to find it. I just checked the Fly Baby site, but did not find it there.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: Stromberg mixture |
Andy, Oscar:
In the archives, there is a reference that was posted by Bill Church
on March 17, 2011 to the Stromberg manual. It may have information
about setting mixture control on the Strombergs. The link is
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/PeoplesFiles/Stromberg%20NAS3A1,%20C-series%20Cont.pdf.
(You may need to do a bit of copying and pasting into your browser to
get the whole thing on one line.).
Cheers, Ken
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:46 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Andy;
>
> If your Stromberg has the mixture adjustment parts installed, I would assume
that you can adjust the mixture. Most of them have the mixture wired full rich
or have had the adjustment parts removed though.
>
> The operating manuals for many aircraft that had the mixture adjustment said
not to adjust the mixture below about 5000 ft. There is some good technical information
available about the mixture control on these carbs, but I have forgotten
where to find it. I just checked the Fly Baby site, but did not find it
there.
>
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> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
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