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1. 04:13 AM - Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) (Jerry Dotson)
2. 06:20 AM - Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) (Jack)
3. 08:28 AM - Re: Wire wheel hub autocad- first post!!!! (Bkemike)
4. 09:23 AM - Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) (Chris Rusch)
5. 12:31 PM - Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) (Chris Rusch)
6. 01:35 PM - Fw: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma (Aircamperace@yahoo.com)
7. 01:37 PM - Re: Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) (Aircamperace@yahoo.com)
8. 03:28 PM - Re: Re: Franklin 60 HP engine available (Johnkuhfahl)
9. 03:48 PM - Motor Mount Jig (Jack T. Textor)
10. 04:01 PM - Re: Motor Mount Jig (John Francis)
11. 04:17 PM - Re: Motor Mount Jig (Jack)
12. 04:34 PM - Re: Motor Mount Jig (John Francis)
13. 05:01 PM - Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) (TaiwanTeacher)
14. 05:32 PM - New GoPro for Christmas (Ben Charvet)
15. 05:55 PM - Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) (nightmare)
16. 06:10 PM - Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) (TaiwanTeacher)
17. 09:35 PM - Gauge and type of metal for the top deck (Mark Roberts)
18. 11:22 PM - Fw: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma (K5YAC)
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| Subject: | Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) |
I received this email from Orrin D. Hoopman. He is living in Taiwan. Here is a
quote from the email:
"Please find attached the final pic of the Pietenpol built and owned by Fred Imrie
of B.C. that my father died in only a few hours later. In the pic, I am the
young guy in the passenger seat upfront.
If it's good enough to post somewhere, I'd like you to do so for me and the Hoopman
Family. I don't think anyone else has a copy of it. It came from my father's
camera, which I was holding as he took off on the fateful flight."
The quotes are from 2 emails I received.
This is some more Pietenpol history as his grandfathers name is on nearly every
Pietenpol drawing.
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Jerry Dotson
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) |
Jerry thanks for sharing, must have been so sad for the son Hoopman. I really don't
know the history of the incident...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Dec 28, 2012, at 6:13 AM, "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net> wrote:
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> I received this email from Orrin D. Hoopman. He is living in Taiwan. Here is
a quote from the email:
> "Please find attached the final pic of the Pietenpol built and owned by Fred
Imrie of B.C. that my father died in only a few hours later. In the pic, I am
the young guy in the passenger seat upfront.
> If it's good enough to post somewhere, I'd like you to do so for me and the Hoopman
Family. I don't think anyone else has a copy of it. It came from my father's
camera, which I was holding as he took off on the fateful flight."
> The quotes are from 2 emails I received.
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> This is some more Pietenpol history as his grandfathers name is on nearly every
Pietenpol drawing.
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> Jerry Dotson
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> First flight June 16,2012
> Started building July, 2009
> Lycoming O-235 C2C
> Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: Wire wheel hub autocad- first post!!!! |
Informative pictures, Matt.
I'm building my hubs the same way, using 19" aluminum rims and stainless spokes.
I'm adapting them to very light dirt bike disc brakes and using go-cart calipers.
Don't forget to chamfer those spoke holes.
Mike Hardaway
Sent from an Apple iThingie.
On Dec 26, 2012, at 11:13 PM, "jet_jockey" <jet_jockey_36@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Had my brother sketch this up. Tape a copy to a piece of metal and center punch
on the X's. I used a 3.5' hole saw for the outside diameter and 2' for the
center. PDF file bottom of last picture.
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| Subject: | Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) |
Just so we all can learn, what was the cause of the accident?
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NX321LR
Fully Assembled
Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
Wings to be covered next.
Mitsubishi Powered
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| Subject: | Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) |
Just so we all can learn, what was the cause of the accident?
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NX321LR
Fully Assembled
Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
Wings to be covered next.
Mitsubishi Powered
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| Subject: | Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma |
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| Subject: | Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman |
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Chris I just posted what he sent me.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 28, 2012, at 3:30 PM, "Chris Rusch" <rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Franklin 60 HP engine available |
Why? Just wondering...
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 27, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Doug Dever <chiefpepperhead@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have about 1,000hrs behind a Franklin 6A-350-A1A and love them...Just no
t that one!
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> Doug Dever
> In beautiful Stow Ohio
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> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Franklin 60 HP engine available
> > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:54:06 -0600
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> > Yes Dave , I am here daily. Not as good or as classy as a Harley Davidso
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> > From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 2:30 PM
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Franklin 60 HP engine available
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Just finished up my motor mount jig except paint. Not real pretty but sturd
y and straight. Fabbing the mount should be interesting, I ordered twice t
he metal needed. Did you hear that Chris?
Jack
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| Subject: | Re: Motor Mount Jig |
Looks good to me Jack! Is this one of those jigs that is going to be passed around
eventually for others to use???? Just asking.....
Oh, it is for a Corvair, correct?
John
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John Francis
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| Subject: | Re: Motor Mount Jig |
John I would be honored to pass it on. It's for a C-85 with one inch added forward.
When my mount is complete I will announce to the list...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Dec 28, 2012, at 5:47 PM, "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com> wrote:
> Just finished up my motor mount jig except paint. Not real pretty but sturdy
and straight. Fabbing the mount should be interesting, I ordered twice the metal
needed. Did you hear that Chris?
> Jack
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> Jack Textor
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| Subject: | Re: Motor Mount Jig |
You're a good man Jack Textor! Someone will appreciate your generosity I'm sure.
John
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John Francis
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| Subject: | Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) |
Chris Rusch wrote:
> Just so we all can learn, what was the cause of the accident?
Greetings all,
I am Orrin D. Hoopman. It's a bit of a complicated story as to how my father died
in a Pietnepol in 1983. The gist of it is, the winds were not very good that
day at a small fly-in airshow in Shelton WA, as the airport was located close
to a mountain range. In the morning, the pilot, Fred Imrie, had taken me up
first, and then my half-brother, Eric (whose socks you see under the a/c in the
pic); the other kid is the pilot's son. The winds got a little worse, and the
pilot decided to hold off on taking my father up until they improved. After
a long lunch break, the wind had changed direction, other a/c started taking off
again, and seemed to be doing well enough. Out of the kindness of his heart,
Fred opted to "give it a go". This was an uncontrolled rural airfield, with
the radio staffed by ROTC Air Cadets (I think). They direction for takeoffs hadn't
been changed for the afternoon, and there was an oblique tailwind on the
runway.
Anyhow, they got into line to taxi. I waved at my father, but couldn't get the
camera to work for the take-off shot (it hadn't been wound forward, and I was
unfamiliar with it). A Stearman took off in front of them, and some other small
plane was in line behind them. The end of the runway was obscured from the crowd
by trees and bushes. It only took a minute to notice that the Pietenpol wasn't
in formation on the circle of planes rising out of the field. In an attempt
to climb out over the treeline after an extended takeoff roll, it had crashed
shortly after takeoff from an altitude of about 200ft.
Evidently, the winds coming over the mountains nearby had created a "roller" wave,
causing the instantaneous loss of lift for the struggling little Piet, and
it nosed in, killing Orrin C.'s son, Delbert O., from asphyxiation due to crushed/puntured
lungs, and giving the pilot a broken jaw. [Crying or Very sad]
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Pietenpol's Forever!
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| Subject: | New GoPro for Christmas |
My wife bought me one of those GoPro cameras for Christmas. I got a
chance to mount it on the Pietenpol today for a short test.
http://youtu.be/4Nm7OlRlmqQ
Do not archive
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Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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| Subject: | Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) |
here is a copy and paste from aircrashed.com
THE HOME BUILT ACFT WAS MANUFACTURED IN 1975 & WAS BUILT IN CANADA FROM THE 1930
PIETENPOL AIRCAMPER DESIGN. THE PLT HAD FLOWN THE CANADIAN REGISTERED ACFT TO
AN ANTIQUE FLY-IN. TRAFFIC AT THE ARPT REQUIRED THAT ONLY RWY 35 COULD BE USED.
THE PLT WAITED FROM 1400 TO 1700 PDT, FOR THE WIND TO DECREASE, BEFORE TAKING
OFF. REPORTEDLY, HE FOLLOWED THE POSTED LEFT HAND TRAFFIC PATTERN WHICH TOOK
HIM OVER HILLS WHERE HE ENCOUNTERED TURBULENCE & A DOWN DRAFT. SUBSEQUENTLY,
THE ACFT STALLED & CRASHED IN A STEEP DESCENT. AN EXAMINATION OF THE ENGINE
REVEALED THE SPARK PLUGS WERE CARBON FOULED WITH BLACK, SOOTY DEPOSITS.
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| Subject: | Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) |
nightmare wrote:
> here is a copy and paste from aircrashed.com
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> THE HOME BUILT ACFT WAS MANUFACTURED IN 1975 & WAS BUILT IN CANADA FROM THE 1930
PIETENPOL AIRCAMPER DESIGN. THE PLT HAD FLOWN THE CANADIAN REGISTERED ACFT
TO AN ANTIQUE FLY-IN. TRAFFIC AT THE ARPT REQUIRED THAT ONLY RWY 35 COULD BE
USED. THE PLT WAITED FROM 1400 TO 1700 PDT, FOR THE WIND TO DECREASE, BEFORE TAKING
OFF. REPORTEDLY, HE FOLLOWED THE POSTED LEFT HAND TRAFFIC PATTERN WHICH
TOOK HIM OVER HILLS WHERE HE ENCOUNTERED TURBULENCE & A DOWN DRAFT. SUBSEQUENTLY,
THE ACFT STALLED & CRASHED IN A STEEP DESCENT. AN EXAMINATION OF THE ENGINE
REVEALED THE SPARK PLUGS WERE CARBON FOULED WITH BLACK, SOOTY DEPOSITS.
Yes. He started to turn left towards the mountains to follow the existing traffic
pattern. He didn't get any more than 90 degrees of turn in the pattern and
about 500 yards from the end of the runway before he lost lift and crashed. Fred
said he felt "Slapped out of the sky."
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Pietenpol's Forever!
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| Subject: | Gauge and type of metal for the top deck |
Hi guys:
What kind of metal, and what gauge do you use for the top of the fuselage around
the pilot seats and over the nose? Sorry if this has been posted, but I struggled
to think of a good search term...
I am assuming it is aluminum, but kind and thickness is not called out that I can
see on the plans. I am about ready to cut the parts!
Many thanks guys!
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma |
Darn... sounded interesting.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
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