---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/29/12: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:30 AM - Re: Gauge and type of metal for the top deck (helspersew@aol.com) 2. 07:16 AM - "Tis the ski season... (Don Emch) 3. 07:39 AM - Re: "Tis the ski season... (John Francis) 4. 09:01 AM - Re: "Tis the ski season... (Fred Kim) 5. 09:03 AM - Re: Re: "Tis the ski season... (Kip and Beth Gardner) 6. 09:20 AM - Re: Gauge and type of metal for the top deck (Jim Boyer) 7. 09:21 AM - Re: Gauge and type of metal for the top deck (Jim Boyer) 8. 09:27 AM - Re: "Tis the ski season... (Jim Boyer) 9. 09:43 AM - Re: Gauge and type of metal for the top deck (Mark Roberts) 10. 10:43 AM - New GoPro for Christmas (Oscar Zuniga) 11. 12:28 PM - Re: Gauge and type of metal for the top deck (Jack Phillips) 12. 02:24 PM - Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) (Chris Rusch) 13. 06:50 PM - Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) (TaiwanTeacher) 14. 06:57 PM - Auto-response (Viorel Nichols) 15. 09:34 PM - Re: Gauge and type of metal for the top deck (Mark Roberts) 16. 10:31 PM - Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) (dwilson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:17 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gauge and type of metal for the top deck From: helspersew@aol.com Hi Mark, I used .032 2024 over the front pit, and .025 2024 over the pilot pit. I fi gured I needed the thick stuff in front to take the punishment of the passe ngers. My DAR kept leaning on the combing (rear) while doing my aiwrorthine ss inspection, even after I asked him not to (arrggg) and he bent it over s lightly. I still need to get that bend out of there somehow, just havent ta ken the time. FYI my engine cowl is .032 3003. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Mark Roberts Sent: Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:36 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gauge and type of metal for the top deck > Hi guys: What kind of metal, and what gauge do you use for the top of the fuselage a round the pilot seats and over the nose? Sorry if this has been posted, but I struggled to think of a good search term... I am assuming it is aluminum, but kind and thickness is not called out that I can see on the plans. I am about ready to cut the parts! Many thanks guys! Mark Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391128#391128 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:31 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: "Tis the ski season... From: "Don Emch" I was able to get the Piet on the skis yesterday. If you don't mind me practicing my "head on a swivel" kind of see and avoid you can go here and see me trying my new Go Pro on my head. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z__C7_4E_44 Funny thing about the camera... I was asking about this kind of camera a month or so ago on the list here. My wife had already bought it for me for Christmas and I never said anything to her about wanting one! She just knows me a little to well I guess! Now to get creative with some mounts on the wing, the tail, a stick out in front of the wing.... :-) Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391139#391139 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/resize_ski_2_174.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/resize_ski_1_188.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:02 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: "Tis the ski season... From: "John Francis" Don, I would think a mount under the fuselage where you could get an unrestricted view of the ground would be useful as well. What type of mounts are you using for the Go-Pro and would you incorporate them into the structure while you were building if you would do it again? John -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391142#391142 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:38 AM PST US From: Fred Kim Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: "Tis the ski season... Great video Don=2C how about the landing.what is it like taxing and turning with the skis? i imagine the tail wheel would slow you down pretty quickly when it comes down. > Subject: Pietenpol-List: "Tis the ski season... > From: EmchAir@aol.com > Date: Sat=2C 29 Dec 2012 07:16:05 -0800 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > I was able to get the Piet on the skis yesterday. If you don't mind me p racticing my "head on a swivel" kind of see and avoid you can go here and s ee me trying my new Go Pro on my head. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z__C7_4E_44 > > Funny thing about the camera... I was asking about this kind of camera a month or so ago on the list here. My wife had already bought it for me fo r Christmas and I never said anything to her about wanting one! She just k nows me a little to well I guess! Now to get creative with some mounts on the wing=2C the tail=2C a stick out in front of the wing.... :-) > > Don Emch > NX899DE > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391139#391139 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/resize_ski_2_174.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/resize_ski_1_188.jpg > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:57 AM PST US From: Kip and Beth Gardner Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: "Tis the ski season... Is there any kind of servo-controlled mount that would work with this setup? Then you could mount on a wing or strut and change the view/ perspective at will. On Dec 29, 2012, at 10:37 AM, John Francis wrote: > > > > Don, > > I would think a mount under the fuselage where you could get an > unrestricted view of the ground would be useful as well. What type > of mounts are you using for the Go-Pro and would you incorporate > them into the structure while you were building if you would do it > again? > > John > > -------- > John Francis > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391142#391142 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:20:25 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gauge and type of metal for the top deck HI Mark I used 2024-T3 for the cowlings around the cockpits. Cheers, Jim B. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:34 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gauge and type of metal for the top deck HI Mark I used 2024-T3 .025 for the cowlings around the cockpits. .025" Cheers, Jim B. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:38 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "Tis the ski season... HI Don, Neat video; reminds me when I lived in South Dakota and flew off Lake Kampeska near Watertown. Jim B. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:00 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gauge and type of metal for the top deck From: "Mark Roberts" Thank you fellers! I will be off to the local Kerney Aluminum store to see if I can locate some of the 2024-T3 aluminum. I am assuming it is a common grade, and not an Aircraft Spruce order. It would be nice to get something locally ... :-) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391161#391161 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:43:53 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: New GoPro for Christmas Ben=3B Really cool when your shadow comes up to meet you at touchdown. Fun video! Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Medford=2C OR ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:28:37 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Gauge and type of metal for the top deck To help prevent the problem Dan had, I reinforced the edges of the cockpit coaming by adding a piece of aluminum angle extrusion on top of the longeron, fiting into a slit in a piece of polyethylene tubing that was then covered with foam pipe insulation and covered with leather. See the sketch and photo below: By the way, I used 2024-T3 aluminum .025" thick for the engine cowling as well as the cowlings over the cockpits. Of course, some people just use the top of the longeron as the edge of the cockpit, as Mike Cuy did. As with most things Pietenpol related, there are many ways to solve each problem, and most of them are correct. That's one of the things that makes Pietenpols so interesting. Good Luck! Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 8:30 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gauge and type of metal for the top deck Hi Mark, I used .032 2024 over the front pit, and .025 2024 over the pilot pit. I figured I needed the thick stuff in front to take the punishment of the passengers. My DAR kept leaning on the combing (rear) while doing my aiwrorthiness inspection, even after I asked him not to (arrggg) and he bent it over slightly. I still need to get that bend out of there somehow, just havent taken the time. FYI my engine cowl is .032 3003. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Mark Roberts Sent: Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:36 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gauge and type of metal for the top deck Hi guys: What kind of metal, and what gauge do you use for the top of the fuselage around the pilot seats and over the nose? Sorry if this has been posted, but I struggled to think of a good search term... I am assuming it is aluminum, but kind and thickness is not called out that I can see on the plans. I am about ready to cut the parts! Many thanks guys! Mark Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391128#391128 _blank">www.aeroelectric.com " target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:24:20 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) From: "Chris Rusch" Thanks for the detailed accounts, it must be painful to talk about. This type of information does help all of us become safer pilots....thank you. -------- NX321LR Fully Assembled Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted. Wings to be covered next. Mitsubishi Powered Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391179#391179 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:50:15 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) From: "TaiwanTeacher" Chris Rusch wrote: > Thanks for the detailed accounts, it must be painful to talk about. This type of information does help all of us become safer pilots....thank you. You're welcome. Fly safe! Let's get back to the two black-white negatives of a Sky Scout I have here. I estimate they are from 1932. One is an oblique view from the right rear showing what appears to be a lady wearing a snug-fitting white hat sitting in the cockpit; the other is a full left side view of the plane taken from a point in line with the prop. Both show a logo on the side that reads "Pietenpol B-4-T Junior" (?). The negatives have some minor damage to the glossy side, but appear good enough to try taking a chance on getting them developed. However, I am in Taiwan, and I may have trouble finding a suitable firm to handle the job without accidentally damaging them. Is anyone here familiar with these two old photographs? If they are already in circulation, then there's no need to try having them printed here. Someday, I'd like to lay my hands on a set of the original drawings. Can you believe that I still don't have any? Ha! -------- Pietenpol's Forever! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391208#391208 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:57:39 PM PST US From: Viorel Nichols Subject: Pietenpol-List: Auto-response Away on holiday from the 22 December 2012 till 29 January 2013 Wishing you a happy festive season . Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from Viorel ... ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:39 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gauge and type of metal for the top deck From: "Mark Roberts" Uh oh Jack! The drawing and picture didn't attach somehow, and I am trying to imagine what the set up looks like based on your description. Is it just my iPad, or did the photo and drawing not make it...? Thanks for the help! Mark Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391212#391212 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:31:42 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) From: "dwilson" Orrin, after your grandfather passed your grandmother still had copies of the original drawings. Some of the drawings I saw were not included in the plan sets. Dick Gleason from Austin used to produce the copies for her whenever she sold a set. Your Grandpa had autographed several of these copies. I think I may have received the last autographed one she had. As far as original drawings, I have ever only seen one set of these. The original drawings had white lines on dark blue or black paper. I think that Vi Kapler has a set of the original "blueprints". Goldie gave many of the drawings she had remaining to one of the members of the Austin EAA chapter. Thank You for sharing the photograph and the story of your father. You should have seen the crowd that gathered around your grandfather during his last visit to Brodhead. Wow, I thought he was a rock star. Your grandma did too! Dan Wilson Austin, MN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391213#391213 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.