---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/06/13: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:36 AM - Fw: IMPORTANT: E15 Gas Warning (C N Campbell) 2. 11:07 AM - Model A build question (ldmill) 3. 11:19 AM - Another first flight (AircamperN11MS) 4. 11:27 AM - Re: Another first flight (AircamperN11MS) 5. 11:54 AM - Re: Another first flight (V Groah) 6. 01:37 PM - Re: 3-piece Windshields (caldwrl) 7. 01:55 PM - Re: Re: 3-piece Windshields (Ray Krause) 8. 02:45 PM - Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Don Emch) 9. 02:46 PM - Re: Another first flight (Don Emch) 10. 02:55 PM - Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Gerry Holland) 11. 02:55 PM - Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Jack Phillips) 12. 03:06 PM - Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Don Emch) 13. 03:14 PM - Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (John Francis) 14. 04:18 PM - Re: Another first flight (K5YAC) 15. 04:46 PM - Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (pineymb) 16. 05:40 PM - Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Baldeagle) 17. 06:06 PM - Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Don Emch) 18. 08:28 PM - Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (shad bell) 19. 10:15 PM - Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) (TaiwanTeacher) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:36:17 AM PST US From: "C N Campbell" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: IMPORTANT: E15 Gas Warning This was sent to me by a friend and I'm sending it on as a precaution. Don't know if very many states are affected yet but before you pump be sure to check to see what you're pumping! For the airplane drivers among you, this is another good reason to stick with 100LL. C Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 12:38 PM Subject: IMPORTANT: E15 Gas Warning Subject: IMPORTANT: E15 Gas Warning WATCH THE NEWS VIDEO: If your CAR IS OLDER THAN 2012, you need to AVOID THE NEW E15 GAS that is just starting to show up at gas stations. Most car companies will not honor the warranty on your car if you use this new gas. Watch video to see why. http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2000862202001/ Please pass this on to everyone you know. The EPA says "Buy it" and AAA says "Don't buy it." (I agree with AAA (and a lot of other sources that say it is bad, not for just vehicles, but also bad for most engines, including lawn mowers, weed-eaters, and chain saws!) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:07:33 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A build question From: "ldmill" Question for those in the midwest building/have built a model A Piet. I'm going to use insert bearings for my crank and rods - who in the midwest is competent at machining the block for this? I've heard of Ken Perkins down in Gardner - but that's about a 6 hour drive south of me (I live in central Iowa). That's a bit further than I'd prefer to drive is possible. I seem to remember Dan Helsper used somebody in Illinois for this, but can't find the reference. Lorin (Just starting a Model A Sky Scout) -------- Lorin Miller Waiex N81YX GN-1 N30PP Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391708#391708 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:19:14 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another first flight From: "AircamperN11MS" Fellow Pieters, Yesterday I had the pleasure of making the first flight of EAA chapter 1279's Pietenpol. N1279Z. After a very thorough inspection of all relative documents and of the airplane, it was declared ready to fly. Below is a note from the owner about the day. Congratulations to EAA Chapter 1279. Dear Members, I am happy to report to all of you who have been following progress on the Pietenpol Air Camper project being built at the French Valley Airport by members of EAA Chapter 1279 that the airplane has made its maiden flight. On Saturday, January 5, 2013, long-time Pietenpol owner and pilot Scott Liefield made the trip from his home in Lancaster, California to the French Valley Airport near Temecula, California to do the honors (see photos below). Construction on the airplane was completed in October. DAR John Shablow performed the final inspection on Saturday, October 29, 2012. As part of his inspection, John performed a formal weight and balance calculation before issuing the Certificate of Airworthiness. With all of the paperwork completed and the C of A in hand, the first flight was scheduled for Sunday, November 11. Unfortunately, an engine problem developed which delayed the first flight for a couple of months while we made the appropriate repairs. By the first of the year everyone was satisfied that the airplane was ready to go. Scott and his father arrived early Saturday morning. We all did a thorough inspection of the airframe, making careful notes of anything that needed attention. With the engine cowling in place, we tied the tail down and started the engine. We warmed up the engine before running it up to full throttle for a full two minutes. It ran smoothly and all of the gauges were within normal operational limits. After a brief cockpit check, Scott climbed in, taxied the airplane onto the active runway, and took off. Staying within a mile or so of the field, Scott climbed to three thousand feet and checked the flying characteristics of the airplane. He later reported having to hold in some left rudder during the entire flight. This he thought could be eliminated by offsetting the leading edge of the vertical fin by a half inch. The airplane topped out at 88 miles per hour at full throttle in level flight with the engine turning 3,000 RPM. Scott said that stalls in the airplane were straight ahead with no tendency to fall off on a wing. It recovered normally with simple release of the back pressure. After 30 minutes in the air, Scott returned and made, by his own account, one of his best landings in a long time. A perfect ending to a momentous event. For those of us involved in the building process, it was a moment that brought smiles, hand shakes, and high fives all around. To those of you who have been following our progress through these regular updates or through our chapter website, we thank you for your interest and your encouragement. Now we begin a new chapter in the history of Pietenpol Air Camper N1279Z. The airplane will continue to be based at French Valley and will forever be associated with EAA Chapter 1279. It is our hope that wherever we go with the airplane, it will provide inspiration to others pursuing their own dreams of building and flying their own airplane. Blue skies! Steve Williamson, Pres. EAA Chapter 1279 French Valley, CA -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391709#391709 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:27:11 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another first flight From: "AircamperN11MS" Pic -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391710#391710 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030415_174.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:54:29 AM PST US From: V Groah Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Another first flight What wonderful news=2C we have been watching with interest. I know it is a long way but hope we can see it at Frazier lake in june. May not have the 40 flown off by then but would like to see you in person if you do. Vic 4 14MV do not archive > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another first flight > From: Scott.liefeld@lacity.org > Date: Sun=2C 6 Jan 2013 11:18:56 -0800 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > ity.org> > > Fellow Pieters=2C > > Yesterday I had the pleasure of making the first flight of EAA chapter 12 79's Pietenpol. N1279Z. After a very thorough inspection of all relative do cuments and of the airplane=2C it was declared ready to fly. Below is a not e from the owner about the day. Congratulations to EAA Chapter 1279. > > Dear Members=2C > > I am happy to report to all of you who have been following progress on th e Pietenpol Air Camper project being built at the French Valley Airport by members of EAA Chapter 1279 that the airplane has made its maiden flight. O n Saturday=2C January 5=2C 2013=2C long-time Pietenpol owner and pilot Scot t Liefield made the trip from his home in Lancaster=2C California to the Fr ench Valley Airport near Temecula=2C California to do the honors (see photo s below). > > Construction on the airplane was completed in October. DAR John Shablow p erformed the final inspection on Saturday=2C October 29=2C 2012. As part of his inspection=2C John performed a formal weight and balance calculation b efore issuing the Certificate of Airworthiness. With all of the paperwork c ompleted and the C of A in hand=2C the first flight was scheduled for Sunda y=2C November 11. Unfortunately=2C an engine problem developed which delaye d the first flight for a couple of months while we made the appropriate rep airs. > > By the first of the year everyone was satisfied that the airplane was rea dy to go. Scott and his father arrived early Saturday morning. We all did a thorough inspection of the airframe=2C making careful notes of anything th at needed attention. With the engine cowling in place=2C we tied the tail d own and started the engine. We warmed up the engine before running it up to full throttle for a full two minutes. It ran smoothly and all of the gauge s were within normal operational limits. After a brief cockpit check=2C Sco tt climbed in=2C taxied the airplane onto the active runway=2C and took off . Staying within a mile or so of the field=2C Scott climbed to three thousa nd feet and checked the flying characteristics of the airplane. He later re ported having to hold in some left rudder during the entire flight. This he thought could be eliminated by offsetting the leading edge of the vertical fin by a half inch. The airplane topped out at 88 miles per hour at full t hrottle in level f! > light with the engine turning 3=2C000 RPM. Scott said that stalls in the airplane were straight ahead with no tendency to fall off on a wing. It rec overed normally with simple release of the back pressure. > > After 30 minutes in the air=2C Scott returned and made=2C by his own acco unt=2C one of his best landings in a long time. A perfect ending to a momen tous event. > > For those of us involved in the building process=2C it was a moment that brought smiles=2C hand shakes=2C and high fives all around. To those of you who have been following our progress through these regular updates or thro ugh our chapter website=2C we thank you for your interest and your encourag ement. > > Now we begin a new chapter in the history of Pietenpol Air Camper N1279Z. The airplane will continue to be based at French Valley and will forever b e associated with EAA Chapter 1279. It is our hope that wherever we go with the airplane=2C it will provide inspiration to others pursuing their own d reams of building and flying their own airplane. > > Blue skies! > > Steve Williamson=2C Pres. > EAA Chapter 1279 > French Valley=2C CA > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391709#391709 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:37:53 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 3-piece Windshields From: "caldwrl" Jack, Much like Mark, when I received the newsletter and read the article, I am now leaning to this style of windshield. It is a great article, but I would love to see the photos in detail. Could you perhaps attach them to an email to this list, or to me personally? I would really appreciate the effort. I am attaching a recent photo for the list to see my progress. 90% complete and 90% to go. Thanks, -------- Robert Caldwell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391718#391718 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc02093_190.jpg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:55:46 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 3-piece Windshields Robert, Extremely nice! How did you build the head rest and how is it attached to the turtle deck? Any photos? I am 6'4" and my head is quite a bit above the turtle deck on my Sky Scout, I have mused over a separate headrest, but cannot decide how to do one. Thanks, Ray Krause Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2013, at 1:37 PM, "caldwrl" wrote: > > Jack, > > Much like Mark, when I received the newsletter and read the article, I am now leaning to this style of windshield. It is a great article, but I would love to see the photos in detail. Could you perhaps attach them to an email to this list, or to me personally? I would really appreciate the effort. > > I am attaching a recent photo for the list to see my progress. 90% complete and 90% to go. > > Thanks, > > -------- > Robert Caldwell > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391718#391718 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc02093_190.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:08 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis From: "Don Emch" My son Ryan and I having some more fun on the skis. We flew over to a nearby airport for lunch. Fortunately for us it's only about 20 minutes away (we were frozen!). Fortunately for you this video is only about 4 minutes or so... :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWAAhgzrOc&feature=youtu.be Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391721#391721 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:00 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another first flight From: "Don Emch" That is awesome! Nice looking and great to see it was followed through to the finish! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391722#391722 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:55:00 PM PST US From: Gerry Holland Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis Don Great video....bracing conditions! What Camera did you use? Quality is excellent. Thanks for sharing. Gerry ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:55:32 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis Love it, Don! We have yet to get enough snow to ski on here in Virginia. Maybe next week! Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Emch Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 5:45 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis My son Ryan and I having some more fun on the skis. We flew over to a nearby airport for lunch. Fortunately for us it's only about 20 minutes away (we were frozen!). Fortunately for you this video is only about 4 minutes or so... :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWAAhgzrOc&feature=youtu.be Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391721#391721 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:06:03 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis From: "Don Emch" Gerry, It's a GoPro. Seems like a really nice little camera. I mounted it on a piece of PVC then tie wrapped it to my struts so it is positioned a foot or so behind the trailing edge. With the camera's wide setting it allows the view to go from the cockpit to straight ahead to see where you're going. Lots of fun! Jack... I'm getting to the point during winter when I'm ready spring! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391725#391725 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:14:57 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis From: "John Francis" Don, Ryan looked cold during the flight. He was scrunched down pretty good. Great memories for both of you. John -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391726#391726 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:18:17 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another first flight From: "K5YAC" Way to go! -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391731#391731 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:46:18 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis From: "pineymb" Gotta love it!!! Had my fix last Friday doing off field landings - pick a field, set down and go again - must drive the snowmobilers crazy trying to figure out made the tracks - priceless. -------- Adrian M Winnipeg, MB Canada Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391732#391732 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:40:40 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis From: "Baldeagle" Don, what editing program are you using? - -------- do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391735#391735 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:06:06 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis From: "Don Emch" That would be Windows Live Movie Maker. It's the first time I've ever messed with it. First time I've ever edited a video actually. [Laughing] Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391736#391736 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:28:34 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis Don, I might just have to build a pair for our piet.- This has been the 1 st winter I would be able to use skis for at least 3 years. Shad --- On Sun, 1/6/13, Jack Phillips wrote: From: Jack Phillips Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis et> Love it, Don!- We have yet to get enough snow to ski on here in Virginia. Maybe next week! Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Emch Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 5:45 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis My son Ryan and I having some more fun on the skis.- We flew over to a nearby airport for lunch.- Fortunately for us it's only about 20 minutes away (we were frozen!).- Fortunately for you this video is only about 4 minutes or so...- :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWAAhgzrOc&feature=youtu.be Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391721#391721 le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:15:48 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Orrin D. Hoopman ( grandson of Orrin C Hoopman ) From: "TaiwanTeacher" Greetings, All: Today, I will be checking on the attempt at a first print made here in Taiwan from one negative of this set I found. It's a pic of the model aircraft Orrin C. built in the early-30s. Let's hope this works... If so, then I will be offering prints of the two pics of Orrin C. Hoopman's B-4-T #10718 to Piet-People in the "old-fashioned way," by "mail order"... (just like the drawings were offered!) Simply send a check for payment in whatever amount you think meets your needs, financial circumstances, and generosity (along with your mailing address) to my mother in the USA. We are in touch regularly; she will simply deposit the funds into my account in Maine, and make sure I receive your request. This will save all the hassles of international payment processing. Maxine Stanwood 467 Wyman Rd. Milbridge ME 04658 (207) 546-2405 I think you will all enjoy seeing the "original, Model T powered, Sky Scout", complete with fuselage logo and a spinner on its nose. -------- Pietenpol's Forever! 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