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     1. 03:09 AM - Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Jack)
     2. 03:39 AM - Re: Re: For what its worth - Piet Stats at FAA (Jack)
     3. 04:06 AM - Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Jack Phillips)
     4. 04:52 AM - Re: Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
     5. 05:40 AM - Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Michael Perez)
     6. 05:53 AM - Aviation Ground School (Michael Perez)
     7. 05:56 AM - Re: mechanical tach (Daniel Engelkenjohn)
     8. 06:37 AM - N number vs NX number (nightmare)
     9. 06:37 AM - Re: Tail ski (kevinpurtee)
    10. 06:42 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
    11. 06:46 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
    12. 06:51 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (AircamperN11MS)
    13. 06:59 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (Greg Bacon)
    14. 07:00 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (Jerry Dotson)
    15. 07:04 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (BYD)
    16. 07:09 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (AircamperN11MS)
    17. 07:15 AM - Re: Re: N number vs NX number (Ryan Mueller)
    18. 07:21 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (nightmare)
    19. 07:30 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (dgaldrich)
    20. 09:07 AM - Re: mechanical tach (Michael Perez)
    21. 09:11 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (Michael Perez)
    22. 09:33 AM - Re: Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (C N Campbell)
    23. 09:38 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (C N Campbell)
    24. 09:46 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (C N Campbell)
    25. 09:50 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (TOM STINEMETZE)
    26. 10:02 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (Jack Phillips)
    27. 10:04 AM - Re: Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Jack Phillips)
    28. 10:12 AM - Re: Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Ken Bickers)
    29. 10:13 AM - Balaclava (Gerry Holland)
    30. 10:21 AM - Fin and rudder drain holes (santiago morete)
    31. 10:25 AM - Re: Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Ryan Mueller)
    32. 10:43 AM - to the bakery I go (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
    33. 10:51 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (Michael Perez)
    34. 11:04 AM - Re: to the bakery I go (Kip and Beth Gardner)
    35. 11:17 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (tools)
    36. 11:30 AM - Re: Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
    37. 11:39 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (John Francis)
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    39. 12:22 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Matthew)
    40. 12:36 PM - Re: Aviation Ground School (John Francis)
    41. 12:51 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Matthew)
    42. 01:56 PM - Re: Fin and rudder drain holes (Jack Phillips)
    43. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Charles Burkholder)
    44. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Michael Perez)
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    46. 04:48 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Matthew)
    47. 05:25 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Jack Phillips)
    48. 06:26 PM - Re: Aviation Ground School (John Francis)
    49. 07:12 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
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    53. 08:09 PM - Re: Fin and rudder drain holes (Greg Cardinal)
    54. 08:25 PM - Re: Pics of BHP #10 Model T powered 1st "Sky Scout" (TaiwanTeacher)
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| Subject:  | Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis | 
      
      Jack it sounds like the cabin heat may be worth the time to install. Does
      your exhaust into the front cabin?
      
      
      Jack Textor 
      Des Moines, IA 
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
      Phillips
      Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 8:53 PM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis
      
      
      I'm like you, Shad.  I wish my windshield was about 2" taller.  I have cabin
      heat, and a cover for the front cockpit so everything stays pretty warm
      except my face.  20 minutes into a flight when the temps are in the 40's or
      lower and I can't feel my face anymore.
      
      
      Ought to be able to get the Piet in the air this weekend, though.  Forecast
      for Saturday and Sunday has clear skies and highs in the 70's.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      
        _____  
      
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      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
      Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:43 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis
      
      
      If I do that, I will be puttting taller windshields on...for sure.  Dad kept
      them small, for the look I guess. When it gets cold, I am loosening the
      shoulder harness and leaning forward as much as I can to stay warm.  I have
      flown a couple of times in snow flurries, just around the pattern, and flown
      it down in the 20's once or twice.  I am so bundled up in insulated
      coveralls, ski mask and goggles, and leather jacket that I almost need to be
      lifted into the airplane.  That set-up gets me about 20-30 min. before I
      need to land and jump in the fireplace to thaw out.
      
      
      Shad
      
      --- On Mon, 1/7/13, Don Emch <EmchAir@aol.com> wrote:
      
      
      From: Don Emch <EmchAir@aol.com>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis
      
      <http://us.mc1612.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=EmchAir@aol.com> >
      
      Shad,
      
      If you can find some old wood water skis I think they would work great as
      bottoms.  If you wrap them in fiberglass like the wood canoe guys do, they'd
      be almost indestructible.
      
      Don Emch
      NX899DE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391762#391762
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: For what its worth - Piet Stats at FAA | 
      
      Mark is correct I do have a list. The list is available to those listed and
      details will not be posted on the internet. The attached Word file lists the
      individuals currently on the list. For those listed that need to update
      their info or anybody that would like to be listed please fill out the
      attached Excel template file and send to my home email jack@textors.com. I
      will then get you a complete updated list.
      Thanks,
      Jack
      
      
      Jack Textor
      Des Moines, IA
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
      Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:04 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: For what its worth - Piet Stats at FAA
      
      
      Jack Textor has a current registry (as of 2011) with over 100 listed
      builders.  Perhaps he will chime in... seems that there may be 15 - 20
      people that have come around since he last updated his database.
      
      
      [/code]
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing
      Gear
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis | 
      
      Yes, I used a cabin heat box from ACS and it just dumps through a 2=94 
      hole in
      the firewall into the front cockpit.  It does keep my feet warm, and I 
      can
      stand a good deal of cold if my feet are warm.  For cold weather flying 
      I
      find a good wool balaclava that covers my face to be essential.  Dressed
      very warmly, with a balaclava , the front =91pit covered and cabin heat 
      on I
      have flown it from Raleigh NC to Smith Mountain Lake VA  (a two hour 
      trip)
      at 35=B0, but to quote Axel Olsen in TGWP, =93I didn=92t like it 
      much!=94
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      
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      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
      Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 6:09 AM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the 
      skis
      
      
      Jack it sounds like the cabin heat may be worth the time to install. 
      Does
      your exhaust into the front cabin?
      
      
      Jack Textor 
      Des Moines, IA 
      
      
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      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
      Phillips
      Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 8:53 PM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the 
      skis
      
      
      I=92m like you, Shad.  I wish my windshield was about 2=94 taller.  I 
      have cabin
      heat, and a cover for the front cockpit so everything stays pretty warm
      except my face.  20 minutes into a flight when the temps are in the 
      40=92s or
      lower and I can=92t feel my face anymore.
      
      
      Ought to be able to get the Piet in the air this weekend, though.  
      Forecast
      for Saturday and Sunday has clear skies and highs in the 70=92s.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad 
      bell
      Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:43 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the 
      skis
      
      
      If I do that, I will be puttting taller windshields on...for sure.  Dad 
      kept
      them small, for the look I guess. When it gets cold, I am loosening the
      shoulder harness and leaning forward as much as I can to stay warm.  I 
      have
      flown a couple of times in snow flurries, just around the pattern, and 
      flown
      it down in the 20's once or twice.  I am so bundled up in insulated
      coveralls, ski mask and goggles, and leather jacket that I almost need 
      to be
      lifted into the airplane.  That set-up gets me about 20-30 min. before I
      need to land and jump in the fireplace to thaw out.
      
      
      Shad
      
      --- On Mon, 1/7/13, Don Emch <EmchAir@aol.com> wrote:
      
      
      From: Don Emch <EmchAir@aol.com>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis
      
      <http://us.mc1612.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=EmchAir@aol.com> >
      
      Shad,
      
      If you can find some old wood water skis I think they would work great 
      as
      bottoms.  If you wrap them in fiberglass like the wood canoe guys do, 
      they'd
      be almost indestructible.
      
      Don Emch
      NX899DE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391762#391762
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Just can't seem to get enough of  the skis | 
      
      
      Years ago I wore a silk Baliclava while riding my motorcycle in the Texas Panhandle
      winters. Thin, light and warm covered my nose. It was split on the side of
      the lower neck and tucked way down in my shirt front and back, preventing cold
      air from getting in. 
      
      Just a thot.
      
      Steve D
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis | 
      
      That's good information to have Jack, as I was hoping to do some winter flying
      when I get the chance.
      
      Michael Perez
      
      Pietenpol HINT Videos
      
      Karetaker Aero
      
      www.karetakeraero.com
      
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| Subject:  | Aviation Ground School | 
      
      This past Monday I started ground school at Sky Park here in Ohio. I had ta
      ken ground school back in 1988 and I am learning that I" don't remember wha
      t I thought I knew!"- This class offers spouses to attend for free, so my
       wife is going with me. We go every Monday.- It has only been one class s
      o far, but she seems very determined to stay with it; she plans on taking t
      he written exam.
      
      We were told to start flying ASAP. I believe we are both going to start CFI
       lessons very soon. This facility has a few tail draggers and instructors, 
      so I, (we?)- are eager to get started.
      
      My current plan is do get my LSA license now...it won't take as long and wi
      ll cost less money. Later, if the need arises or the desire, I will pursue 
      the private license.- My thought,- since I own an LSA,- is along the 
      lines of "I only drive a car, no need to get a trucking license at this poi
      nt."
      
      Michael Perez
      =0APietenpol HINT Videos
      =0AKaretaker Aero
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| Subject:  | Re: mechanical tach | 
      
      Thanks Greg. That=92s what I was looking for. I didn=92t think anyone 
      would be able to understand what I was trying to say.
      Dennis
      
      From: Greg Bacon 
      Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 7:35 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: mechanical tach
      
      Hi Dennis, 
      
      Mitchell sells mechanical tachs in both CW and CCW flavors.  You can 
      also get a 90 degree angle drive that allows you to reverse the 
      rotation.  So, there are a many ways to skin this cat.  
      
      
      On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Daniel Engelkenjohn 
      <mushface1@gmail.com> wrote:
      
        Oops...that doesn=92t sound right. I =91ll try again. which way is the 
      tach cable driven on most aircraft tachs? Does the cable turn clockwise 
      or counterclockwise and are tachs available in which the cable rotates 
      the same? Does this make sense?
        Dennis
      
      
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      Greg Bacon 
      Prairie Home, MO
      
      NX114D(Mountain Piet)
      
      
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| Subject:  | N number vs NX number | 
      
      
      I just reserved my N number (N 727CR) and spoke with an FAA employee  in OKC. She
      said that the FAA has not given out NX numbers for some time now, and that
      i would have to talk to my local FSDO about putting NX on my airplane upon completion.
      Just left a message with my FSDO, could be days before i hear back. Whats
      the deal? is it a given that I can put NX on my plane to alleviate the EXPERIMENTAL
      verbage? Paul
      
      --------
      Paul Donahue
      Started 8-3-12
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      That's cool.  Not sure I need it in Texas, though.
      
      --------
      Kevin "Axel" Purtee
      NX899KP
      Austin/San Marcos, TX
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      
      That sound like an excellent plan to start out with the LSA certificate.
      Let us know when you solo.
      
      --------
      Curt Merdan
      Flower Mound, TX
      
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| Subject:  | Re: N number vs NX number | 
      
      
      You are giving them an opportunity to say NO. 
      
      Start painting NX727CR!
      
      --------
      Curt Merdan
      Flower Mound, TX
      
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| Subject:  | Re: N number vs NX number | 
      
      
      Paul,
      
      The FAA does NOT issue an NX number.  They only issue a straight N number.  The
      X can be put on the airplane to eliminate the Words Experimental provided that
      the plane is more than 30 years old or is a replica of an aircraft more than
      30 years old. The Piet is covered by both accounts.  None of the aircraft registration
      will indicate the X you are talking about.  All paper work will only
      show the N number.  I am at work and don't have my FAR book with me so I cannot
      quote which reg it is. Perhaps others on the list have it handy.
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      Good plan Michael.  Good idea taking wifey with you too!  If I were you, I
      wouldn't mess with private either.  The medical is a pain and adds cost.
       Ya, you won't be able to rent a Cessna, but your building so you don't
      have to.
      
      On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
      
      > This past Monday I started ground school at Sky Park here in Ohio. I had
      > taken ground school back in 1988 and I am learning that I" don't remember
      > what I thought I knew!"  This class offers spouses to attend for free, so
      > my wife is going with me. We go every Monday.  It has only been one class
      > so far, but she seems very determined to stay with it; she plans on taking
      > the written exam.
      >
      > We were told to start flying ASAP. I believe we are both going to start
      > CFI lessons very soon. This facility has a few tail draggers and
      > instructors, so I, (we?)  are eager to get started.
      >
      > My current plan is do get my LSA license now...it won't take as long and
      > will cost less money. Later, if the need arises or the desire, I will
      > pursue the private license.  My thought,  since I own an LSA,  is along the
      > lines of "I only drive a car, no need to get a trucking license at this
      > point."
      >
      > Michael Perez
      > Pietenpol HINT Videos
      > Karetaker Aero
      > www.karetakeraero.com
      >
      > *
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Greg Bacon
      Prairie Home, MO
      NX114D(Mountain Piet)
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      
      Mike I agree you need to start flying real soon and don't even think about a tri-gear.
      Start in tailwheel and enjoy. When the time comes to fly the Piet it will
      not be nearly as stressful. As to forgetting ground school think on this.
      I did my ground school out of a Sanderson book at night..... in 1967. Until this
      year I had not flown since 1993 and no tailwheel since 1980 or so. I am in
      my own little ground school and have a scanner to listen to ATC. It helps to listen
      so you have some idea what they will be telling you. Most of it does not
      pertain to a Pietenpol. When they start giving out FL330 makes my Piet tremble!
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      
      First flight June 16,2012
      Started building July, 2009
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| Subject:  | Re: N number vs NX number | 
      
      
      FAR 45.22 (b)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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| Subject:  | Re: N number vs NX number | 
      
      
      That's the one.  Thanks
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: N number vs NX number | 
      
      45.22(b)
      On Jan 9, 2013 8:56 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
      
      > Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
      >
      > Paul,
      >
      > The FAA does NOT issue an NX number.  They only issue a straight N number.
      >  The X can be put on the airplane to eliminate the Words Experimental
      > provided that the plane is more than 30 years old or is a replica of an
      > aircraft more than 30 years old. The Piet is covered by both accounts.
      >  None of the aircraft registration will indicate the X you are talking
      > about.  All paper work will only show the N number.  I am at work and don't
      > have my FAR book with me so I cannot quote which reg it is. Perhaps others
      > on the list have it handy.
      >
      > --------
      > Scott Liefeld
      > Flying N11MS since March 1972
      > Steel Tube
      > C-85-12
      > Wire Wheels
      > Brodhead in 1996
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391897#391897
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: N number vs NX number | 
      
      
      Awesome; thats the answer i was hoping for. Made my day.  Paul
      
      --------
      Paul Donahue
      Started 8-3-12
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: N number vs NX number | 
      
      
      If memory serves, Oscar Zuniga or was it Douwe Blumberg, wrote a well researched
      article for the BPA newsletter with a complete explanation of the rules and
      regs regarding aircraft marking to include the NX issue.  You do have them archived,
      don't you?  Insert smiley face here.
      
      Dave
      
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| Subject:  | Re: mechanical tach | 
      
      Hello Daniel. I am just checking the status of my tachometer order, per below.
      Thanks you.
      
      Michael Perez
      
      Pietenpol HINT Videos
      
      Karetaker Aero
      
      www.karetakeraero.com
      
      --- On Tue, 1/8/13, Daniel Engelkenjohn <mushface1@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      From: Daniel Engelkenjohn <mushface1@gmail.com>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: mechanical tach
      
      
      If using the mechanical drive off the oil pump like Bernard did, which way 
      does the tach need to rotate, to the right or left? Will any mechanical tach 
      work?
      Dennis
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      If my wife continues on to get her license as well, that will plant the see
      d for building another aircraft...for her...8^ [ )
      
      Of course since I will be- building it, I get to decide which type, color
      , engine,...
      
      Michael Perez
      =0APietenpol HINT Videos
      =0AKaretaker Aero
      =0Awww.karetakeraero.com
      =0A
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Just can't seem to get enough of  the skis | 
      
      
      Hey guys!  For the benefit of us Southern boys, how about telling us what a 
      Baliclava is.  I have some ideas but have never seen or heard the word 
      before.  C
      Do not archive
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
      Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:52 AM
      Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the 
      skis
      
      
      > <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
      >
      > Years ago I wore a silk Baliclava while riding my motorcycle in the Texas 
      > Panhandle winters. Thin, light and warm covered my nose. It was split on 
      > the side of the lower neck and tucked way down in my shirt front and back, 
      > preventing cold air from getting in.
      >
      > Just a thot.
      >
      > Steve D
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      How about a Pietenpol Aircamper?  I have heard that it is a good one to 
      start on :>)  Two Piets in the same family?  Don't know if you will be 
      able to stand it!!!  C
      
      Do not archive
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Michael Perez 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:11 PM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aviation Ground School
      
      
              If my wife continues on to get her license as well, that will 
      plant the seed for building another aircraft...for her...8^ [ )
      
              Of course since I will be  building it, I get to decide which 
      type, color, engine,...
      
              Michael Perez
              Pietenpol HINT Videos
              Karetaker Aero
              www.karetakeraero.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: N number vs NX number | 
      
      
      My understanding is that if you put the X in, that explains to the world 
      that the aircraft is experimental and there is no need for the word, 
      "Experimental" to be applied.  I heard from someone that their inspector 
      insisted on the word, "Experimental" be applied under the cockpit on both 
      sides but that might have just been a qwirk of the inspector.  Someone at 
      the FAA should know for sure.  C
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:37 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: N number vs NX number
      
      
      > <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
      >
      > I just reserved my N number (N 727CR) and spoke with an FAA employee  in 
      > OKC. She said that the FAA has not given out NX numbers for some time now, 
      > and that i would have to talk to my local FSDO about putting NX on my 
      > airplane upon completion. Just left a message with my FSDO, could be days 
      > before i hear back. Whats the deal? is it a given that I can put NX on my 
      > plane to alleviate the EXPERIMENTAL verbage? Paul
      >
      > --------
      > Paul Donahue
      > Started 8-3-12
      > do not archive
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391894#391894
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      
      Yes, and a pink Piet would be a welcome change from all those black and yellow
      Germans.  How about pink and lavender?  
      (gag - I am revolting myself)
      please Do Not Archive
      
      Stinemetze
      
      >>> "C N Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net> 1/9/2013 11:38 AM >>>
      How about a Pietenpol Aircamper?  I have heard that it is a good one to start on
      :>)  Two Piets in the same family?  Don't know if you will be able to stand
      it!!!  C
      
      Do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | N number vs NX number | 
      
      
      That's when you pull out a copy of the FARs and show him the relevant
      passage.  I had that passage all ready and highlighted, but the guy from the
      FSDO that did my inspection was already familiar with it and had no
      problems.  If a DAR or FSDO guy tries to require something that is clearly
      NOT reguired by the regs, you need to go to their supervisor.
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of C N Campbell
      Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:46 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N number vs NX number
      
      <cncampbell@windstream.net>
      
      My understanding is that if you put the X in, that explains to the world 
      that the aircraft is experimental and there is no need for the word, 
      "Experimental" to be applied.  I heard from someone that their inspector 
      insisted on the word, "Experimental" be applied under the cockpit on both 
      sides but that might have just been a qwirk of the inspector.  Someone at 
      the FAA should know for sure.  C
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:37 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: N number vs NX number
      
      
      > <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
      >
      > I just reserved my N number (N 727CR) and spoke with an FAA employee  in 
      > OKC. She said that the FAA has not given out NX numbers for some time now,
      
      > and that i would have to talk to my local FSDO about putting NX on my 
      > airplane upon completion. Just left a message with my FSDO, could be days 
      > before i hear back. Whats the deal? is it a given that I can put NX on my 
      > plane to alleviate the EXPERIMENTAL verbage? Paul
      >
      > --------
      > Paul Donahue
      > Started 8-3-12
      > do not archive
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391894#391894
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Just can't seem to get enough of  the skis | 
      
      Here, let me Google that for you:
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of C N Campbell
      Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:33 PM
      Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the
      skis
      
      
      <cncampbell@windstream.net>
      
      
      Hey guys!  For the benefit of us Southern boys, how about telling us what a 
      
      Baliclava is.  I have some ideas but have never seen or heard the word 
      
      before.  C
      
      Do not archive
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
      
      
      Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:52 AM
      
      Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the 
      
      skis
      
      
      
      > <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
      
      > 
      
      > Years ago I wore a silk Baliclava while riding my motorcycle in the Texas 
      
      > Panhandle winters. Thin, light and warm covered my nose. It was split on 
      
      > the side of the lower neck and tucked way down in my shirt front and back,
      
      
      > preventing cold air from getting in.
      
      > 
      
      > Just a thot.
      
      > 
      
      > Steve D
      
      > 
      
      > 
      
      > 
      
      > 
      
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis | 
      
      
      Balaclava is the ancient Scandinavian word for 'hat in which to rob banks.'
      
      On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:33 AM, C N Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net> wrote:
      > <cncampbell@windstream.net>
      >
      > Hey guys!  For the benefit of us Southern boys, how about telling us what a
      > Baliclava is.  I have some ideas but have never seen or heard the word
      > before.  C
      > Do not archive
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB"
      > <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
      > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:52 AM
      > Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the
      > skis
      >
      >
      >> <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
      >>
      >> Years ago I wore a silk Baliclava while riding my motorcycle in the Texas
      >> Panhandle winters. Thin, light and warm covered my nose. It was split on the
      >> side of the lower neck and tucked way down in my shirt front and back,
      >> preventing cold air from getting in.
      >>
      >> Just a thot.
      >>
      >> Steve D
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
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      Try walking into a Bank with a Balaclava on! You'll get quite a warm response!
      Gerry
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Fin and rudder drain holes | 
      
      Hi everybody!=0AI covered the tail surfaces and I am currently making the d
      rain holes. My question is, does any of you made =8B=8Bdrain ho
      les in the fin and rudder? I have seen many pictures looking for this, and 
      I think most people don't have drain holes in the fin, is that correct?=0AT
      hanks!=0A=0ASantiago=C2-=0A
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis | 
      
      http://isanu.org/baklava-2/
      
      The sugar keeps you warm...
      
      do not archive
      
      
      On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:33 AM, C N Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net>wrote:
      
      > cncampbell@windstream.net>
      >
      > Hey guys!  For the benefit of us Southern boys, how about telling us what
      > a Baliclava is.  I have some ideas but have never seen or heard the word
      > before.  C
      > Do not archive
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <
      > steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
      > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:52 AM
      > Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the
      > skis
      >
      >
      >> steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
      >>
      >> Years ago I wore a silk Baliclava while riding my motorcycle in the Texas
      >> Panhandle winters. Thin, light and warm covered my nose. It was split on
      >> the side of the lower neck and tucked way down in my shirt front and back,
      >> preventing cold air from getting in.
      >>
      >> Just a thot.
      >>
      >> Steve D
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | to the bakery I go | 
      
      Thanks to you guys I now have a taste for Baklava.   Ice cold milk and hone
      y-crunching
      on Fillo dough.   I can almost taste it already.   Cleveland has some good 
      ethnic eats and
      good Baklava is one of them.
      
      Mike C.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      Ah yes, another Pietenpol!- Let's see how her flight training goes first.
      
      Michael Perez
      =0APietenpol HINT Videos
      =0AKaretaker Aero
      =0Awww.karetakeraero.com
      =0A
      
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| Subject:  | Re: to the bakery I go | 
      
      Yeah, that's it Mike, spread the craving-bug around some ;)
      
      Kip
      
      On Jan 9, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage  
      Partners, LLC] wrote:
      
      > Thanks to you guys I now have a taste for Baklava.   Ice cold milk  
      > and honey-crunching
      > on Fillo dough.   I can almost taste it already.   Cleveland has  
      > some good ethnic eats and
      > good Baklava is one of them.
      >
      > Mike C.
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      
      Hey Mike,
      
      One point to consider is that you need ten hours of dual for light sport, and twenty
      for a private.  
      
      The ten hours you get for your light sport count towards the twenty ONLY IF you
      get from from a CFI, rather than a light sport instructor.  As far as I know,
      the hourly rate for either instructor is the same, so there's no reason not to
      make sure they will count later if needed.  There is no statute of limitations
      so to speak, once logged, it's good forever.  
      
      The tests are different, and about $150, but that's not nearly as big a deal as
      an extra ten hours of plane and instructor rental, as I don't know of any instructors
      that'll instruct in a Piet.  While you're getting your ten hours, if
      things are progressing well, get things like the night flight, control tower landings,
      class B flying (not sure if that's required off the top of my head, but
      seem to remember it...) out of the way.  Again, once logged, you don't have
      to repeat them, although you'll need something to burn up the additional ten
      hours anyway (should you upgrade later), so it's not something to fret, just something
      to keep in mind if you want to maximize efficiency.
      
      The biggest problem with the light sport is that you'll need an endorsement to
      bring the Piet out to Brodhead and for all the airports in between.  It's a bit
      of a pain for cross country flying, a thing designed OUT of the rating essentially.
      
      
      Lastly, the best thing about light sport is the fact you don't need a medical.
      You can downgrade to light sport on your own and likely will have already made
      the trip to brodhead and back and have it in your logbook, making an endorsement
      easier to obtain later on... if you know what I mean.  You can go right back
      to private by merely getting the appropriate physical and a BFR from a CFI
      (rather than from a light sport instructor), the FAA isn't involved there either
      (essentially).
      
      All just food for thought, not sure how deep you delved into all of this.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391927#391927
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Just can't seem to get enough of   the skis | 
      
      
      C. A baliclava is a funny lookin hat often worn to rob banks.
      
      BTW, I am a Southern boy. I just happen to be from the most Northern part of the
      Grand Republic of Texas. 
      
      The Panhandle AKA West Texas or the Great American Desert,  was invaded by Texas
      Cowboys (many Confederate Vets) after the war of Northern Agression. Way up
      North (North of Amarillo) the summers are hotter than hell and dry. The winters
      are pretty mild unless a blue Norther blows in and that is when you find out
      that there is nothing between Morse, Texas and the North Pole but a barbed wire
      (pronounced BOB WAR) fence. Half of that fence is down. That is when we need
      to know what a Baliclava is.
      
      I have been told that my Texas Panhandle accent sounds very much like a Carolina
      accent except for when I say any word with an i or y in the middle. Then we
      drawl it even more. ie White writing paper is pronounciated Whyyyte ryyytin paper.
      My wife is from North Texas (which is South and East of West Texas) and can
      turn any single sylable word into a two syllable word. 
      
      
      Blue Skies,
      Steve  
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: C N Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net>
      Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of  the skis
      
      
      > 
      > Hey guys!  For the benefit of us Southern boys, how about telling us what a Baliclava
      is.  I have some ideas but have never seen or heard the word 
      > before.  C
      > Do not archive
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA 
      > NGB" <
      > To: <
      > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:52 AM
      > Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis
      > 
      > 
      > >
      > >Years ago I wore a silk Baliclava while riding my motorcycle in the Texas Panhandle
      winters. Thin, light and warm covered my nose. It was split on the side
      of the lower neck and tucked way down in my shirt front and back, preventing
      cold air from getting in.
      > >
      > >Just a thot.
      > >
      > >Steve D
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      
      I'm a little ahead of myself but have begun my flight school training as well.
      I would have done the same as you but the VA won't pay for anything less than
      the full blown Private Pilot Certification Course part 141. 
      
      I'll be flying out of Wright Brothers Airport just south of Dayton, OH in a Cessna
      152.  When I complete the course I will go to Red Stewart Field in Waynesville
      for my tailwheel endorsement in either an Aeronca or Cub. 
      
      I start flying on the 19th of this month.  Aircraft and instructor are booked!
      
      John
      
      --------
      John Francis
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391930#391930
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Just can't seem to get enough of  the skis | 
      
      
      Maybe its a thong!!!!
      
      
      -----Original Message----- 
      From: C N Campbell
      Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:33 PM
      Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the 
      skis
      
      <cncampbell@windstream.net>
      
      Hey guys!  For the benefit of us Southern boys, how about telling us what a
      Baliclava is.  I have some ideas but have never seen or heard the word
      before.  C
      Do not archive
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
      Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:52 AM
      Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the
      skis
      
      
      > <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
      >
      > Years ago I wore a silk Baliclava while riding my motorcycle in the Texas 
      > Panhandle winters. Thin, light and warm covered my nose. It was split on 
      > the side of the lower neck and tucked way down in my shirt front and back, 
      > preventing cold air from getting in.
      >
      > Just a thot.
      >
      > Steve D
      >
      >
      
      
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      John, 
      
       Not sure if you know or not, but anyway Woody Walker at Piqua in the Maint hangar
      next to hartzell does instruction with his 152, 
      But sounds like you have things under control!!  Good luck!
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Jan 9, 2013, at 2:39 PM, "John Francis" <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
      
      > 
      > I'm a little ahead of myself but have begun my flight school training as well.
      I would have done the same as you but the VA won't pay for anything less than
      the full blown Private Pilot Certification Course part 141. 
      > 
      > I'll be flying out of Wright Brothers Airport just south of Dayton, OH in a Cessna
      152.  When I complete the course I will go to Red Stewart Field in Waynesville
      for my tailwheel endorsement in either an Aeronca or Cub. 
      > 
      > I start flying on the 19th of this month.  Aircraft and instructor are booked!
      > 
      > John
      > 
      > --------
      > John Francis
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391930#391930
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      
      Matthew,
      
      I know Woody and that would be a lot easier....just not approved by VA.
      
      --------
      John Francis
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391934#391934
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      
      Could you send me your contact down at MGY, if I can get the GI Bill to pay that
      would be great!
      
      Thanks
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Jan 9, 2013, at 3:35 PM, "John Francis" <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Matthew,
      > 
      > I know Woody and that would be a lot easier....just not approved by VA.
      > 
      > --------
      > John Francis
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391934#391934
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Fin and rudder drain holes | 
      
      Hi Santiago,
      
      
      I put drain holes in both fin and rudder.  I put seaplane grommets over 
      the holes at the bottom of the rudder, to keep water from splashing up 
      into the holes.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of santiago 
      morete
      Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 1:22 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fin and rudder drain holes
      
      
      Hi everybody!
      
      I covered the tail surfaces and I am currently making the drain holes. 
      My question is, does any of you made =8B=8Bdrain holes in 
      the fin and rudder? I have seen many pictures looking for this, and I 
      think most people don't have drain holes in the fin, is that correct?
      
      Thanks!
      
      
      Santiago 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      
      Hi John isn't that interesting. I drove down all the way from Ontario and 
      got my PPL license at Red stewart in 24 days. The best place in the 
      world......  It's so laid back and very grass roots kind of flying. Start 
      you off in the good ole' J3 Cub or Aeronca. Solo that and then stick you in 
      the C-150 for the rest. I've landed at Wright Bro many of times. Flew and 
      soloed a total of 4 of their planes for less money then anywhere else. I 
      definately recommend them.....
      All the best
      Charles Burkholder
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "John Francis" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 2:39 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School
      
      
      >
      > I'm a little ahead of myself but have begun my flight school training as 
      > well.  I would have done the same as you but the VA won't pay for anything 
      > less than the full blown Private Pilot Certification Course part 141.
      >
      > I'll be flying out of Wright Brothers Airport just south of Dayton, OH in 
      > a Cessna 152.  When I complete the course I will go to Red Stewart Field 
      > in Waynesville for my tailwheel endorsement in either an Aeronca or Cub.
      >
      > I start flying on the 19th of this month.  Aircraft and instructor are 
      > booked!
      >
      > John
      >
      > --------
      > John Francis
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391930#391930
      >
      >
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      > No virus found in this message.
      > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      Tools, I agree with and have recently read, (out of my new Private Pilot Ma
      nual and during class), with everything you mentioned. The way I understand
       it, Sky Park flight instructors are all CFIs. One or maybe two, will give 
      instruction in conventional gear AC, (not sure what type plane yet) I have 
      also read just a little on the LSA restrictions and required endorsements n
      eeded to go 50 + miles our from home base, etc.- Thanks for your pointers
      ...I'll be looking for more details as we take more classes and get into th
      e meat of ground school/flight time further. Day two of school is Monday, i
      f I get the chance, I will inquire further on conventional gear training, t
      ype of plane(s) used, etc.
      -
      FYI, the fee for the written ground school exam is $140.00.- The entire c
      ourse including new pilot manual, flight computer, plotter, test book, FAR,
       etc. was $150.00. 
      -
      Michael Perez
      Pietenpol HINT Videos
      Karetaker Aero
      www.karetakeraero.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      That's very cool John! I hope to get a flight in prior to the end of the month...we'll
      see. Keep me, (us) posted on how things are going and if you come accross
      something that you feel I should be aware of as we train, let me know. (I'll
      do the same.)
      
      Michael Perez
      Pietenpol HINT Videos
      Karetaker Aero
      www.karetakeraero.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      Another one to keep in mind is the recreational certificate.  15 hours dual 1
      5 solo,  does require a medical but, it's a 1 time cross country sign off.
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Jan 9, 2013, at 5:46 PM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
      
      > 
      > That's very cool John! I hope to get a flight in prior to the end of the m
      onth...we'll see. Keep me, (us) posted on how things are going and if you co
      me accross something that you feel I should be aware of as we train, let me k
      now. (I'll do the same.)
      > 
      > Michael Perez
      > Pietenpol HINT Videos
      > Karetaker Aero
      > www.karetakeraero.com
      > 
      > 
      > 
      ==========================
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      > 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      
      Having flown into both Wright Brothers and Red Stewart  fields on the way to
      and from Brodhead in past years, I can heartily endorse Red Stewart as a
      real airport, friendly to Pietenpols and other "real" airplanes, and have
      nothing good to say about Wright Brothers, unless you're flying a jet.
      That's the only place I've ever landed in my Pietenpol that didn't draw at
      least one curious onlooker.  They just seemed kind of bothered that I'd
      clutter up their ramp with something that wasn't powered with a turbine.
      
      I'd go out of my way to land at Red Stewart.  Nice (grass) runway, cheap
      avgas and friendly service.
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Francis
      Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 2:40 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School
      
      
      I'm a little ahead of myself but have begun my flight school training as
      well.  I would have done the same as you but the VA won't pay for anything
      less than the full blown Private Pilot Certification Course part 141. 
      
      I'll be flying out of Wright Brothers Airport just south of Dayton, OH in a
      Cessna 152.  When I complete the course I will go to Red Stewart Field in
      Waynesville for my tailwheel endorsement in either an Aeronca or Cub. 
      
      I start flying on the 19th of this month.  Aircraft and instructor are
      booked!
      
      John
      
      --------
      John Francis
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391930#391930
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      
      Donna Hanshew, the Manager of Flight Training at Wright Bros. highly recommended
      Red Stewart Field for all my training outside of this program.  Many pilots
      I know speak of them like you do Jack.   That is where I was going to originally
      get my sport license.
      
      --------
      John Francis
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391944#391944
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      
      John, If you have the option, I would suggest starting in a tail dragger. Then
      you can switch to the training wheel. 
      
      I learned in 150s and had a lot of habits to get past. 
      
      Blue Skies,
      Steve D
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Charles Burkholder <born2fly@abcmailbox.net>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School
      
      
      > 
      > Hi John isn't that interesting. I drove down all the way from Ontario and got
      my PPL license at Red stewart in 24 days. The best place in the world...... 
      > It's so laid back and very grass roots kind of flying. Start you 
      > off in the good ole' J3 Cub or Aeronca. Solo that and then stick 
      > you in the C-150 for the rest. I've landed at Wright Bro many of 
      > times. Flew and soloed a total of 4 of their planes for less money 
      > then anywhere else. I definately recommend them.....
      > All the best
      > Charles Burkholder
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Francis" <
      > To: <
      > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 2:39 PM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School
      > 
      > 
      > >
      > >I'm a little ahead of myself but have begun my flight school training as well.
      I would have done the same as you but the VA won't pay for anything less than
      the full blown Private Pilot Certification Course part 141.
      > >
      > >I'll be flying out of Wright Brothers Airport just south of Dayton, OH in a
      Cessna 152.  When I complete the course I will go to Red Stewart Field in Waynesville
      for my tailwheel endorsement in either an Aeronca or Cub.
      > >
      > >I start flying on the 19th of this month.  Aircraft and instructor are booked!
      > >
      > >John
      > >
      > >--------
      > >John Francis
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >Read this topic online here:
      > >
      > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391930#391930
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >-----
      > >No virus found in this message.
      > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
      > >
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      
      Having told you to go with a taildragger first. Sounds like your plan to get into
      one quickly should work. 
      
      Don't let people talk down the 152. I owned a 1958 Cessna 150. The fastback straight
      tail version. It cruised everywhere at 100MPH. very cheap to buy and fly.
      A lot of guys who will look down their nose at you in a Cessna 152 don't fly
      their expensive planes very much. Too expensive.
      
      Blue Skies,
      Steve D
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: John Francis <Mrkringles@msn.com>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School
      
      
      > 
      > I'm a little ahead of myself but have begun my flight school training as well.
      I would have done the same as you but the VA won't pay for 
      > anything less than the full blown Private Pilot Certification 
      > Course part 141. 
      > 
      > I'll be flying out of Wright Brothers Airport just south of Dayton, 
      > OH in a Cessna 152.  When I complete the course I will go to Red 
      > Stewart Field in Waynesville for my tailwheel endorsement in either 
      > an Aeronca or Cub. 
      > 
      > I start flying on the 19th of this month.  Aircraft and instructor 
      > are booked!
      > 
      > John
      > 
      > --------
      > John Francis
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391930#391930
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      
      I was hanging around Stewart one day talking to one of the instructors and
      he told me he went to Ohio University and got all of his ratings. Than he
      came to Waynesville and learned how to fly.
      Skip
      
      
      > [Original Message]
      > From: Charles Burkholder <born2fly@abcmailbox.net>
      > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Date: 1/9/2013 5:07:01 PM
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School
      >
      <born2fly@abcmailbox.net>
      >
      > Hi John isn't that interesting. I drove down all the way from Ontario and 
      > got my PPL license at Red stewart in 24 days. The best place in the 
      > world......  It's so laid back and very grass roots kind of flying. Start 
      > you off in the good ole' J3 Cub or Aeronca. Solo that and then stick you
      in 
      > the C-150 for the rest. I've landed at Wright Bro many of times. Flew and 
      > soloed a total of 4 of their planes for less money then anywhere else. I 
      > definately recommend them.....
      > All the best
      > Charles Burkholder
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      You'll obviously need one of these! 
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BMqRfEu7A4
      
      Way too much fun!
      
      Clif
        Life is uncertain. Eat dessert first
      
              If my wife continues on to get her license as well, that will 
      plant the seed for building another aircraft...for her...8^ [ )
      
              Of course since I will be  building it, I get to decide which 
      type, color, engine,...
      
              Michael Perez
              Pietenpol HINT Videos
              Karetaker Aero
              www.karetakeraero.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fin and rudder drain holes | 
      
      Santiago,
      
      Drain holes are a good idea any place water might collect.
      
      After the infamous rain deluge during Brodhead 2010 NX18235 had water 
      sloshing around in the rudder, elevators and ailerons. I had to poke a 
      few additional holes before I could fly home. 
      
      Greg Cardinal
      Minneapolis
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: santiago morete 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:21 PM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fin and rudder drain holes
      
      
        Hi everybody!
        I covered the tail surfaces and I am currently making the drain holes. 
      My question is, does any of you made =8B=8Bdrain holes in 
      the fin and rudder? I have seen many pictures looking for this, and I 
      think most people don't have drain holes in the fin, is that correct?
        Thanks!
      
      
        Santiago 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Pics of BHP #10 Model T powered 1st "Sky Scout" | 
      
      
      UPDATE:
      
      First attempt at printing = Not as clear as I would like. 
      Will have to try again.
      
      --------
      Pietenpol's Forever!
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391957#391957
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aviation Ground School | 
      
      
      I highly recommend Red Stewart Airfrield for your flight training. I started flying
      there back in 1993. At that time they had 4 J-3, Champ, T-craft, couple 150's
      , 172, and a couple other airplanes. In my opinion you can't ask for a more
      interesting experience. I started flying the J-3 Cub and then progressed to
      the C-150 to get my Private License. I was 18 years old and it was a perfect
      place for someone like me. They gave me a job in the summer time. I washed planes
      and mowed many acres of grass, On my first day of work they had me run across
      the airport and asked a guy for some prop wash ( which was the newbie joke).
      LOL, but what could have been better at that age. It's a family ran business
      that has been there since 1946. When you stop into the airport you will more
      than likely meet Cubby, Kathy, Emerson, Sara,and Dink. Many of my friends learned
      to fly at Red's and we can't recommend it enough to all the new comers and
      the ones that want to learn something about grass roots taildraggers.
      
      Red Stewart's doesn't have a 141 program so the VA and GI bill's will not work.
      Going to a flight school like Wright Brothers isn't a bad thing. You can get
      your ratings fast and once you get finished with all your training, going to Red
      Stewart's will be a breeze.
      
      If you live closer to Columbus. You can check out See Aviation at the Centerburg
      Airport. Bill See has 2-3 very nice Champs and a C-172. He specializes in Tailwheel
      instruction. Bill Built a nice bunk house for people that traveled to
      his airport for instruction. Shad also keeps his Pietenpol at this airport.
      
      Here is a picture of one of Waynesvilles/ Red Stewart Cub's/  on skis..
      
      a little long winded, sorry
      
      Dewey
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis | 
      
      
      Speaking of Texas, Pietenpols, and skis:
      
      http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/ladygreywolf/ranch.html
      
      
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      Could've used a bigger tailwheel...
      
      
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