---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/09/13: 56 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:09 AM - Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Jack) 2. 03:39 AM - Re: Re: For what its worth - Piet Stats at FAA (Jack) 3. 04:06 AM - Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Jack Phillips) 4. 04:52 AM - Re: Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB) 5. 05:40 AM - Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Michael Perez) 6. 05:53 AM - Aviation Ground School (Michael Perez) 7. 05:56 AM - Re: mechanical tach (Daniel Engelkenjohn) 8. 06:37 AM - N number vs NX number (nightmare) 9. 06:37 AM - Re: Tail ski (kevinpurtee) 10. 06:42 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (curtdm(at)gmail.com) 11. 06:46 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (curtdm(at)gmail.com) 12. 06:51 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (AircamperN11MS) 13. 06:59 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (Greg Bacon) 14. 07:00 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (Jerry Dotson) 15. 07:04 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (BYD) 16. 07:09 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (AircamperN11MS) 17. 07:15 AM - Re: Re: N number vs NX number (Ryan Mueller) 18. 07:21 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (nightmare) 19. 07:30 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (dgaldrich) 20. 09:07 AM - Re: mechanical tach (Michael Perez) 21. 09:11 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (Michael Perez) 22. 09:33 AM - Re: Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (C N Campbell) 23. 09:38 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (C N Campbell) 24. 09:46 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (C N Campbell) 25. 09:50 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (TOM STINEMETZE) 26. 10:02 AM - Re: N number vs NX number (Jack Phillips) 27. 10:04 AM - Re: Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Jack Phillips) 28. 10:12 AM - Re: Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Ken Bickers) 29. 10:13 AM - Balaclava (Gerry Holland) 30. 10:21 AM - Fin and rudder drain holes (santiago morete) 31. 10:25 AM - Re: Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Ryan Mueller) 32. 10:43 AM - to the bakery I go (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]) 33. 10:51 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (Michael Perez) 34. 11:04 AM - Re: to the bakery I go (Kip and Beth Gardner) 35. 11:17 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (tools) 36. 11:30 AM - Re: Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB) 37. 11:39 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (John Francis) 38. 12:19 PM - Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis () 39. 12:22 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Matthew) 40. 12:36 PM - Re: Aviation Ground School (John Francis) 41. 12:51 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Matthew) 42. 01:56 PM - Re: Fin and rudder drain holes (Jack Phillips) 43. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Charles Burkholder) 44. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Michael Perez) 45. 02:47 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Michael Perez) 46. 04:48 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Matthew) 47. 05:25 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Jack Phillips) 48. 06:26 PM - Re: Aviation Ground School (John Francis) 49. 07:12 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB) 50. 07:17 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB) 51. 07:22 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (skipgadd@earthlink.net) 52. 07:36 PM - Re: Aviation Ground School (Clif Dawson) 53. 08:09 PM - Re: Fin and rudder drain holes (Greg Cardinal) 54. 08:25 PM - Re: Pics of BHP #10 Model T powered 1st "Sky Scout" (TaiwanTeacher) 55. 08:26 PM - Re: Aviation Ground School (onedgerc) 56. 08:37 PM - Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (Baldeagle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:28 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis Jack it sounds like the cabin heat may be worth the time to install. Does your exhaust into the front cabin? Jack Textor Des Moines, IA _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 8:53 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis I'm like you, Shad. I wish my windshield was about 2" taller. I have cabin heat, and a cover for the front cockpit so everything stays pretty warm except my face. 20 minutes into a flight when the temps are in the 40's or lower and I can't feel my face anymore. Ought to be able to get the Piet in the air this weekend, though. Forecast for Saturday and Sunday has clear skies and highs in the 70's. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:43 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis If I do that, I will be puttting taller windshields on...for sure. Dad kept them small, for the look I guess. When it gets cold, I am loosening the shoulder harness and leaning forward as much as I can to stay warm. I have flown a couple of times in snow flurries, just around the pattern, and flown it down in the 20's once or twice. I am so bundled up in insulated coveralls, ski mask and goggles, and leather jacket that I almost need to be lifted into the airplane. That set-up gets me about 20-30 min. before I need to land and jump in the fireplace to thaw out. Shad --- On Mon, 1/7/13, Don Emch wrote: From: Don Emch Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis > Shad, If you can find some old wood water skis I think they would work great as bottoms. If you wrap them in fiberglass like the wood canoe guys do, they'd be almost indestructible. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391762#391762 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - http://www.===================== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:39:14 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: For what its worth - Piet Stats at FAA Mark is correct I do have a list. The list is available to those listed and details will not be posted on the internet. The attached Word file lists the individuals currently on the list. For those listed that need to update their info or anybody that would like to be listed please fill out the attached Excel template file and send to my home email jack@textors.com. I will then get you a complete updated list. Thanks, Jack Jack Textor Des Moines, IA -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:04 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: For what its worth - Piet Stats at FAA Jack Textor has a current registry (as of 2011) with over 100 listed builders. Perhaps he will chime in... seems that there may be 15 - 20 people that have come around since he last updated his database. [/code] -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391872#391872 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:06:26 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis Yes, I used a cabin heat box from ACS and it just dumps through a 2=94 hole in the firewall into the front cockpit. It does keep my feet warm, and I can stand a good deal of cold if my feet are warm. For cold weather flying I find a good wool balaclava that covers my face to be essential. Dressed very warmly, with a balaclava , the front =91pit covered and cabin heat on I have flown it from Raleigh NC to Smith Mountain Lake VA (a two hour trip) at 35=B0, but to quote Axel Olsen in TGWP, =93I didn=92t like it much!=94 Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 6:09 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis Jack it sounds like the cabin heat may be worth the time to install. Does your exhaust into the front cabin? Jack Textor Des Moines, IA _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 8:53 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis I=92m like you, Shad. I wish my windshield was about 2=94 taller. I have cabin heat, and a cover for the front cockpit so everything stays pretty warm except my face. 20 minutes into a flight when the temps are in the 40=92s or lower and I can=92t feel my face anymore. Ought to be able to get the Piet in the air this weekend, though. Forecast for Saturday and Sunday has clear skies and highs in the 70=92s. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:43 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis If I do that, I will be puttting taller windshields on...for sure. Dad kept them small, for the look I guess. When it gets cold, I am loosening the shoulder harness and leaning forward as much as I can to stay warm. I have flown a couple of times in snow flurries, just around the pattern, and flown it down in the 20's once or twice. I am so bundled up in insulated coveralls, ski mask and goggles, and leather jacket that I almost need to be lifted into the airplane. That set-up gets me about 20-30 min. before I need to land and jump in the fireplace to thaw out. Shad --- On Mon, 1/7/13, Don Emch wrote: From: Don Emch Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis > Shad, If you can find some old wood water skis I think they would work great as bottoms. If you wrap them in fiberglass like the wood canoe guys do, they'd be almost indestructible. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391762#391762 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - http://www.===================== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:52:46 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis Years ago I wore a silk Baliclava while riding my motorcycle in the Texas Panhandle winters. Thin, light and warm covered my nose. It was split on the side of the lower neck and tucked way down in my shirt front and back, preventing cold air from getting in. Just a thot. Steve D ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:11 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis That's good information to have Jack, as I was hoping to do some winter flying when I get the chance. Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com - ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:57 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aviation Ground School This past Monday I started ground school at Sky Park here in Ohio. I had ta ken ground school back in 1988 and I am learning that I" don't remember wha t I thought I knew!"- This class offers spouses to attend for free, so my wife is going with me. We go every Monday.- It has only been one class s o far, but she seems very determined to stay with it; she plans on taking t he written exam. We were told to start flying ASAP. I believe we are both going to start CFI lessons very soon. This facility has a few tail draggers and instructors, so I, (we?)- are eager to get started. My current plan is do get my LSA license now...it won't take as long and wi ll cost less money. Later, if the need arises or the desire, I will pursue the private license.- My thought,- since I own an LSA,- is along the lines of "I only drive a car, no need to get a trucking license at this poi nt." Michael Perez =0APietenpol HINT Videos =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:59 AM PST US From: "Daniel Engelkenjohn" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: mechanical tach Thanks Greg. That=92s what I was looking for. I didn=92t think anyone would be able to understand what I was trying to say. Dennis From: Greg Bacon Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 7:35 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: mechanical tach Hi Dennis, Mitchell sells mechanical tachs in both CW and CCW flavors. You can also get a 90 degree angle drive that allows you to reverse the rotation. So, there are a many ways to skin this cat. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Daniel Engelkenjohn wrote: Oops...that doesn=92t sound right. I =91ll try again. which way is the tach cable driven on most aircraft tachs? Does the cable turn clockwise or counterclockwise and are tachs available in which the cable rotates the same? Does this make sense? Dennis " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Greg Bacon Prairie Home, MO NX114D(Mountain Piet) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:17 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: N number vs NX number From: "nightmare" I just reserved my N number (N 727CR) and spoke with an FAA employee in OKC. She said that the FAA has not given out NX numbers for some time now, and that i would have to talk to my local FSDO about putting NX on my airplane upon completion. Just left a message with my FSDO, could be days before i hear back. Whats the deal? is it a given that I can put NX on my plane to alleviate the EXPERIMENTAL verbage? Paul -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391894#391894 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:17 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail ski From: "kevinpurtee" That's cool. Not sure I need it in Texas, though. -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391893#391893 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:27 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School From: "curtdm(at)gmail.com" That sound like an excellent plan to start out with the LSA certificate. Let us know when you solo. -------- Curt Merdan Flower Mound, TX Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391895#391895 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:46:59 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: N number vs NX number From: "curtdm(at)gmail.com" You are giving them an opportunity to say NO. Start painting NX727CR! -------- Curt Merdan Flower Mound, TX Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391896#391896 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:51:37 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: N number vs NX number From: "AircamperN11MS" Paul, The FAA does NOT issue an NX number. They only issue a straight N number. The X can be put on the airplane to eliminate the Words Experimental provided that the plane is more than 30 years old or is a replica of an aircraft more than 30 years old. The Piet is covered by both accounts. None of the aircraft registration will indicate the X you are talking about. All paper work will only show the N number. I am at work and don't have my FAR book with me so I cannot quote which reg it is. Perhaps others on the list have it handy. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391897#391897 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:59:59 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aviation Ground School From: Greg Bacon Good plan Michael. Good idea taking wifey with you too! If I were you, I wouldn't mess with private either. The medical is a pain and adds cost. Ya, you won't be able to rent a Cessna, but your building so you don't have to. On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Michael Perez wrote: > This past Monday I started ground school at Sky Park here in Ohio. I had > taken ground school back in 1988 and I am learning that I" don't remember > what I thought I knew!" This class offers spouses to attend for free, so > my wife is going with me. We go every Monday. It has only been one class > so far, but she seems very determined to stay with it; she plans on taking > the written exam. > > We were told to start flying ASAP. I believe we are both going to start > CFI lessons very soon. This facility has a few tail draggers and > instructors, so I, (we?) are eager to get started. > > My current plan is do get my LSA license now...it won't take as long and > will cost less money. Later, if the need arises or the desire, I will > pursue the private license. My thought, since I own an LSA, is along the > lines of "I only drive a car, no need to get a trucking license at this > point." > > Michael Perez > Pietenpol HINT Videos > Karetaker Aero > www.karetakeraero.com > > * > > * > > -- Greg Bacon Prairie Home, MO NX114D(Mountain Piet) ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:00:59 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School From: "Jerry Dotson" Mike I agree you need to start flying real soon and don't even think about a tri-gear. Start in tailwheel and enjoy. When the time comes to fly the Piet it will not be nearly as stressful. As to forgetting ground school think on this. I did my ground school out of a Sanderson book at night..... in 1967. Until this year I had not flown since 1993 and no tailwheel since 1980 or so. I am in my own little ground school and have a scanner to listen to ATC. It helps to listen so you have some idea what they will be telling you. Most of it does not pertain to a Pietenpol. When they start giving out FL330 makes my Piet tremble! -------- Jerry Dotson First flight June 16,2012 Started building July, 2009 Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391899#391899 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:04:56 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: N number vs NX number From: "BYD" FAR 45.22 (b) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391900#391900 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:10 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: N number vs NX number From: "AircamperN11MS" That's the one. Thanks -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391901#391901 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:15:38 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: N number vs NX number From: Ryan Mueller 45.22(b) On Jan 9, 2013 8:56 AM, "AircamperN11MS" wrote: > Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> > > Paul, > > The FAA does NOT issue an NX number. They only issue a straight N number. > The X can be put on the airplane to eliminate the Words Experimental > provided that the plane is more than 30 years old or is a replica of an > aircraft more than 30 years old. The Piet is covered by both accounts. > None of the aircraft registration will indicate the X you are talking > about. All paper work will only show the N number. I am at work and don't > have my FAR book with me so I cannot quote which reg it is. Perhaps others > on the list have it handy. > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391897#391897 > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:21:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: N number vs NX number From: "nightmare" Awesome; thats the answer i was hoping for. Made my day. Paul -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391902#391902 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:30:55 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: N number vs NX number From: "dgaldrich" If memory serves, Oscar Zuniga or was it Douwe Blumberg, wrote a well researched article for the BPA newsletter with a complete explanation of the rules and regs regarding aircraft marking to include the NX issue. You do have them archived, don't you? Insert smiley face here. Dave Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391904#391904 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:07:24 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: mechanical tach Hello Daniel. I am just checking the status of my tachometer order, per below. Thanks you. Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com --- On Tue, 1/8/13, Daniel Engelkenjohn wrote: From: Daniel Engelkenjohn Subject: Pietenpol-List: mechanical tach If using the mechanical drive off the oil pump like Bernard did, which way does the tach need to rotate, to the right or left? Will any mechanical tach work? Dennis ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:52 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aviation Ground School If my wife continues on to get her license as well, that will plant the see d for building another aircraft...for her...8^ [ ) Of course since I will be- building it, I get to decide which type, color , engine,... Michael Perez =0APietenpol HINT Videos =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com =0A ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:33:50 AM PST US From: "C N Campbell" Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis Hey guys! For the benefit of us Southern boys, how about telling us what a Baliclava is. I have some ideas but have never seen or heard the word before. C Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:52 AM Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis > > > Years ago I wore a silk Baliclava while riding my motorcycle in the Texas > Panhandle winters. Thin, light and warm covered my nose. It was split on > the side of the lower neck and tucked way down in my shirt front and back, > preventing cold air from getting in. > > Just a thot. > > Steve D > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:38:25 AM PST US From: "C N Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aviation Ground School How about a Pietenpol Aircamper? I have heard that it is a good one to start on :>) Two Piets in the same family? Don't know if you will be able to stand it!!! C Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Perez To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:11 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aviation Ground School If my wife continues on to get her license as well, that will plant the seed for building another aircraft...for her...8^ [ ) Of course since I will be building it, I get to decide which type, color, engine,... Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:46:15 AM PST US From: "C N Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N number vs NX number My understanding is that if you put the X in, that explains to the world that the aircraft is experimental and there is no need for the word, "Experimental" to be applied. I heard from someone that their inspector insisted on the word, "Experimental" be applied under the cockpit on both sides but that might have just been a qwirk of the inspector. Someone at the FAA should know for sure. C ----- Original Message ----- From: "nightmare" Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:37 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: N number vs NX number > > > I just reserved my N number (N 727CR) and spoke with an FAA employee in > OKC. She said that the FAA has not given out NX numbers for some time now, > and that i would have to talk to my local FSDO about putting NX on my > airplane upon completion. Just left a message with my FSDO, could be days > before i hear back. Whats the deal? is it a given that I can put NX on my > plane to alleviate the EXPERIMENTAL verbage? Paul > > -------- > Paul Donahue > Started 8-3-12 > do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391894#391894 > > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:50:24 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aviation Ground School Yes, and a pink Piet would be a welcome change from all those black and yellow Germans. How about pink and lavender? (gag - I am revolting myself) please Do Not Archive Stinemetze >>> "C N Campbell" 1/9/2013 11:38 AM >>> How about a Pietenpol Aircamper? I have heard that it is a good one to start on :>) Two Piets in the same family? Don't know if you will be able to stand it!!! C Do not archive ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 10:02:28 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: N number vs NX number That's when you pull out a copy of the FARs and show him the relevant passage. I had that passage all ready and highlighted, but the guy from the FSDO that did my inspection was already familiar with it and had no problems. If a DAR or FSDO guy tries to require something that is clearly NOT reguired by the regs, you need to go to their supervisor. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of C N Campbell Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N number vs NX number My understanding is that if you put the X in, that explains to the world that the aircraft is experimental and there is no need for the word, "Experimental" to be applied. I heard from someone that their inspector insisted on the word, "Experimental" be applied under the cockpit on both sides but that might have just been a qwirk of the inspector. Someone at the FAA should know for sure. C ----- Original Message ----- From: "nightmare" Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:37 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: N number vs NX number > > > I just reserved my N number (N 727CR) and spoke with an FAA employee in > OKC. She said that the FAA has not given out NX numbers for some time now, > and that i would have to talk to my local FSDO about putting NX on my > airplane upon completion. Just left a message with my FSDO, could be days > before i hear back. Whats the deal? is it a given that I can put NX on my > plane to alleviate the EXPERIMENTAL verbage? Paul > > -------- > Paul Donahue > Started 8-3-12 > do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391894#391894 > > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 10:04:36 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis Here, let me Google that for you: Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of C N Campbell Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:33 PM Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis Hey guys! For the benefit of us Southern boys, how about telling us what a Baliclava is. I have some ideas but have never seen or heard the word before. C Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:52 AM Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis > > > Years ago I wore a silk Baliclava while riding my motorcycle in the Texas > Panhandle winters. Thin, light and warm covered my nose. It was split on > the side of the lower neck and tucked way down in my shirt front and back, > preventing cold air from getting in. > > Just a thot. > > Steve D > > > > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 10:12:20 AM PST US Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis From: Ken Bickers Balaclava is the ancient Scandinavian word for 'hat in which to rob banks.' On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:33 AM, C N Campbell wrote: > > > Hey guys! For the benefit of us Southern boys, how about telling us what a > Baliclava is. I have some ideas but have never seen or heard the word > before. C > Do not archive > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" > > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:52 AM > Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the > skis > > >> >> >> Years ago I wore a silk Baliclava while riding my motorcycle in the Texas >> Panhandle winters. Thin, light and warm covered my nose. It was split on the >> side of the lower neck and tucked way down in my shirt front and back, >> preventing cold air from getting in. >> >> Just a thot. >> >> Steve D >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 10:13:59 AM PST US From: Gerry Holland Subject: Pietenpol-List: Balaclava Try walking into a Bank with a Balaclava on! You'll get quite a warm response! Gerry do not archive ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 10:21:58 AM PST US From: santiago morete Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fin and rudder drain holes Hi everybody!=0AI covered the tail surfaces and I am currently making the d rain holes. My question is, does any of you made =8B=8Bdrain ho les in the fin and rudder? I have seen many pictures looking for this, and I think most people don't have drain holes in the fin, is that correct?=0AT hanks!=0A=0ASantiago=C2-=0A ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 10:25:53 AM PST US Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis From: Ryan Mueller http://isanu.org/baklava-2/ The sugar keeps you warm... do not archive On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:33 AM, C N Campbell wrote: > cncampbell@windstream.net> > > Hey guys! For the benefit of us Southern boys, how about telling us what > a Baliclava is. I have some ideas but have never seen or heard the word > before. C > Do not archive > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" < > steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:52 AM > Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the > skis > > >> steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> >> >> Years ago I wore a silk Baliclava while riding my motorcycle in the Texas >> Panhandle winters. Thin, light and warm covered my nose. It was split on >> the side of the lower neck and tucked way down in my shirt front and back, >> preventing cold air from getting in. >> >> Just a thot. >> >> Steve D >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 10:43:51 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: to the bakery I go Thanks to you guys I now have a taste for Baklava. Ice cold milk and hone y-crunching on Fillo dough. I can almost taste it already. Cleveland has some good ethnic eats and good Baklava is one of them. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 10:51:21 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aviation Ground School Ah yes, another Pietenpol!- Let's see how her flight training goes first. Michael Perez =0APietenpol HINT Videos =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com =0A ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 11:04:47 AM PST US From: Kip and Beth Gardner Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: to the bakery I go Yeah, that's it Mike, spread the craving-bug around some ;) Kip On Jan 9, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC] wrote: > Thanks to you guys I now have a taste for Baklava. Ice cold milk > and honey-crunching > on Fillo dough. I can almost taste it already. Cleveland has > some good ethnic eats and > good Baklava is one of them. > > Mike C. > > ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 11:17:08 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School From: "tools" Hey Mike, One point to consider is that you need ten hours of dual for light sport, and twenty for a private. The ten hours you get for your light sport count towards the twenty ONLY IF you get from from a CFI, rather than a light sport instructor. As far as I know, the hourly rate for either instructor is the same, so there's no reason not to make sure they will count later if needed. There is no statute of limitations so to speak, once logged, it's good forever. The tests are different, and about $150, but that's not nearly as big a deal as an extra ten hours of plane and instructor rental, as I don't know of any instructors that'll instruct in a Piet. While you're getting your ten hours, if things are progressing well, get things like the night flight, control tower landings, class B flying (not sure if that's required off the top of my head, but seem to remember it...) out of the way. Again, once logged, you don't have to repeat them, although you'll need something to burn up the additional ten hours anyway (should you upgrade later), so it's not something to fret, just something to keep in mind if you want to maximize efficiency. The biggest problem with the light sport is that you'll need an endorsement to bring the Piet out to Brodhead and for all the airports in between. It's a bit of a pain for cross country flying, a thing designed OUT of the rating essentially. Lastly, the best thing about light sport is the fact you don't need a medical. You can downgrade to light sport on your own and likely will have already made the trip to brodhead and back and have it in your logbook, making an endorsement easier to obtain later on... if you know what I mean. You can go right back to private by merely getting the appropriate physical and a BFR from a CFI (rather than from a light sport instructor), the FAA isn't involved there either (essentially). All just food for thought, not sure how deep you delved into all of this. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391927#391927 ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 11:30:26 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis C. A baliclava is a funny lookin hat often worn to rob banks. BTW, I am a Southern boy. I just happen to be from the most Northern part of the Grand Republic of Texas. The Panhandle AKA West Texas or the Great American Desert, was invaded by Texas Cowboys (many Confederate Vets) after the war of Northern Agression. Way up North (North of Amarillo) the summers are hotter than hell and dry. The winters are pretty mild unless a blue Norther blows in and that is when you find out that there is nothing between Morse, Texas and the North Pole but a barbed wire (pronounced BOB WAR) fence. Half of that fence is down. That is when we need to know what a Baliclava is. I have been told that my Texas Panhandle accent sounds very much like a Carolina accent except for when I say any word with an i or y in the middle. Then we drawl it even more. ie White writing paper is pronounciated Whyyyte ryyytin paper. My wife is from North Texas (which is South and East of West Texas) and can turn any single sylable word into a two syllable word. Blue Skies, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: C N Campbell Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis > > Hey guys! For the benefit of us Southern boys, how about telling us what a Baliclava is. I have some ideas but have never seen or heard the word > before. C > Do not archive > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA > NGB" < > To: < > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:52 AM > Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis > > > > > >Years ago I wore a silk Baliclava while riding my motorcycle in the Texas Panhandle winters. Thin, light and warm covered my nose. It was split on the side of the lower neck and tucked way down in my shirt front and back, preventing cold air from getting in. > > > >Just a thot. > > > >Steve D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:52 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School From: "John Francis" I'm a little ahead of myself but have begun my flight school training as well. I would have done the same as you but the VA won't pay for anything less than the full blown Private Pilot Certification Course part 141. I'll be flying out of Wright Brothers Airport just south of Dayton, OH in a Cessna 152. When I complete the course I will go to Red Stewart Field in Waynesville for my tailwheel endorsement in either an Aeronca or Cub. I start flying on the 19th of this month. Aircraft and instructor are booked! John -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391930#391930 ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 12:19:33 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis Maybe its a thong!!!! -----Original Message----- From: C N Campbell Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:33 PM Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis Hey guys! For the benefit of us Southern boys, how about telling us what a Baliclava is. I have some ideas but have never seen or heard the word before. C Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:52 AM Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis > > > Years ago I wore a silk Baliclava while riding my motorcycle in the Texas > Panhandle winters. Thin, light and warm covered my nose. It was split on > the side of the lower neck and tucked way down in my shirt front and back, > preventing cold air from getting in. > > Just a thot. > > Steve D > > ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 12:22:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School From: Matthew John, Not sure if you know or not, but anyway Woody Walker at Piqua in the Maint hangar next to hartzell does instruction with his 152, But sounds like you have things under control!! Good luck! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 9, 2013, at 2:39 PM, "John Francis" wrote: > > I'm a little ahead of myself but have begun my flight school training as well. I would have done the same as you but the VA won't pay for anything less than the full blown Private Pilot Certification Course part 141. > > I'll be flying out of Wright Brothers Airport just south of Dayton, OH in a Cessna 152. When I complete the course I will go to Red Stewart Field in Waynesville for my tailwheel endorsement in either an Aeronca or Cub. > > I start flying on the 19th of this month. Aircraft and instructor are booked! > > John > > -------- > John Francis > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391930#391930 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 12:36:10 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School From: "John Francis" Matthew, I know Woody and that would be a lot easier....just not approved by VA. -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391934#391934 ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 12:51:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School From: Matthew Could you send me your contact down at MGY, if I can get the GI Bill to pay that would be great! Thanks Sent from my iPhone On Jan 9, 2013, at 3:35 PM, "John Francis" wrote: > > Matthew, > > I know Woody and that would be a lot easier....just not approved by VA. > > -------- > John Francis > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391934#391934 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 01:56:54 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fin and rudder drain holes Hi Santiago, I put drain holes in both fin and rudder. I put seaplane grommets over the holes at the bottom of the rudder, to keep water from splashing up into the holes. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of santiago morete Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 1:22 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fin and rudder drain holes Hi everybody! I covered the tail surfaces and I am currently making the drain holes. My question is, does any of you made =8B=8Bdrain holes in the fin and rudder? I have seen many pictures looking for this, and I think most people don't have drain holes in the fin, is that correct? Thanks! Santiago ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 02:05:47 PM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School Hi John isn't that interesting. I drove down all the way from Ontario and got my PPL license at Red stewart in 24 days. The best place in the world...... It's so laid back and very grass roots kind of flying. Start you off in the good ole' J3 Cub or Aeronca. Solo that and then stick you in the C-150 for the rest. I've landed at Wright Bro many of times. Flew and soloed a total of 4 of their planes for less money then anywhere else. I definately recommend them..... All the best Charles Burkholder ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Francis" Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 2:39 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School > > I'm a little ahead of myself but have begun my flight school training as > well. I would have done the same as you but the VA won't pay for anything > less than the full blown Private Pilot Certification Course part 141. > > I'll be flying out of Wright Brothers Airport just south of Dayton, OH in > a Cessna 152. When I complete the course I will go to Red Stewart Field > in Waynesville for my tailwheel endorsement in either an Aeronca or Cub. > > I start flying on the 19th of this month. Aircraft and instructor are > booked! > > John > > -------- > John Francis > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391930#391930 > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > ________________________________ Message 44 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:30 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School Tools, I agree with and have recently read, (out of my new Private Pilot Ma nual and during class), with everything you mentioned. The way I understand it, Sky Park flight instructors are all CFIs. One or maybe two, will give instruction in conventional gear AC, (not sure what type plane yet) I have also read just a little on the LSA restrictions and required endorsements n eeded to go 50 + miles our from home base, etc.- Thanks for your pointers ...I'll be looking for more details as we take more classes and get into th e meat of ground school/flight time further. Day two of school is Monday, i f I get the chance, I will inquire further on conventional gear training, t ype of plane(s) used, etc. - FYI, the fee for the written ground school exam is $140.00.- The entire c ourse including new pilot manual, flight computer, plotter, test book, FAR, etc. was $150.00. - Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 45 ____________________________________ Time: 02:47:25 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School That's very cool John! I hope to get a flight in prior to the end of the month...we'll see. Keep me, (us) posted on how things are going and if you come accross something that you feel I should be aware of as we train, let me know. (I'll do the same.) Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 46 ____________________________________ Time: 04:48:32 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School From: Matthew Another one to keep in mind is the recreational certificate. 15 hours dual 1 5 solo, does require a medical but, it's a 1 time cross country sign off. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 9, 2013, at 5:46 PM, Michael Perez wrote: > > That's very cool John! I hope to get a flight in prior to the end of the m onth...we'll see. Keep me, (us) posted on how things are going and if you co me accross something that you feel I should be aware of as we train, let me k now. (I'll do the same.) > > Michael Perez > Pietenpol HINT Videos > Karetaker Aero > www.karetakeraero.com > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 47 ____________________________________ Time: 05:25:04 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School Having flown into both Wright Brothers and Red Stewart fields on the way to and from Brodhead in past years, I can heartily endorse Red Stewart as a real airport, friendly to Pietenpols and other "real" airplanes, and have nothing good to say about Wright Brothers, unless you're flying a jet. That's the only place I've ever landed in my Pietenpol that didn't draw at least one curious onlooker. They just seemed kind of bothered that I'd clutter up their ramp with something that wasn't powered with a turbine. I'd go out of my way to land at Red Stewart. Nice (grass) runway, cheap avgas and friendly service. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Francis Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 2:40 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School I'm a little ahead of myself but have begun my flight school training as well. I would have done the same as you but the VA won't pay for anything less than the full blown Private Pilot Certification Course part 141. I'll be flying out of Wright Brothers Airport just south of Dayton, OH in a Cessna 152. When I complete the course I will go to Red Stewart Field in Waynesville for my tailwheel endorsement in either an Aeronca or Cub. I start flying on the 19th of this month. Aircraft and instructor are booked! John -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391930#391930 ________________________________ Message 48 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:14 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School From: "John Francis" Donna Hanshew, the Manager of Flight Training at Wright Bros. highly recommended Red Stewart Field for all my training outside of this program. Many pilots I know speak of them like you do Jack. That is where I was going to originally get my sport license. -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391944#391944 ________________________________ Message 49 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:49 PM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School John, If you have the option, I would suggest starting in a tail dragger. Then you can switch to the training wheel. I learned in 150s and had a lot of habits to get past. Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Burkholder Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School > > Hi John isn't that interesting. I drove down all the way from Ontario and got my PPL license at Red stewart in 24 days. The best place in the world...... > It's so laid back and very grass roots kind of flying. Start you > off in the good ole' J3 Cub or Aeronca. Solo that and then stick > you in the C-150 for the rest. I've landed at Wright Bro many of > times. Flew and soloed a total of 4 of their planes for less money > then anywhere else. I definately recommend them..... > All the best > Charles Burkholder > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Francis" < > To: < > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 2:39 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School > > > > > >I'm a little ahead of myself but have begun my flight school training as well. I would have done the same as you but the VA won't pay for anything less than the full blown Private Pilot Certification Course part 141. > > > >I'll be flying out of Wright Brothers Airport just south of Dayton, OH in a Cessna 152. When I complete the course I will go to Red Stewart Field in Waynesville for my tailwheel endorsement in either an Aeronca or Cub. > > > >I start flying on the 19th of this month. Aircraft and instructor are booked! > > > >John > > > >-------- > >John Francis > > > > > > > > > >Read this topic online here: > > > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391930#391930 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- > >No virus found in this message. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 50 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:55 PM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School Having told you to go with a taildragger first. Sounds like your plan to get into one quickly should work. Don't let people talk down the 152. I owned a 1958 Cessna 150. The fastback straight tail version. It cruised everywhere at 100MPH. very cheap to buy and fly. A lot of guys who will look down their nose at you in a Cessna 152 don't fly their expensive planes very much. Too expensive. Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: John Francis Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School > > I'm a little ahead of myself but have begun my flight school training as well. I would have done the same as you but the VA won't pay for > anything less than the full blown Private Pilot Certification > Course part 141. > > I'll be flying out of Wright Brothers Airport just south of Dayton, > OH in a Cessna 152. When I complete the course I will go to Red > Stewart Field in Waynesville for my tailwheel endorsement in either > an Aeronca or Cub. > > I start flying on the 19th of this month. Aircraft and instructor > are booked! > > John > > -------- > John Francis > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391930#391930 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 51 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:42 PM PST US From: "skipgadd@earthlink.net" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School I was hanging around Stewart one day talking to one of the instructors and he told me he went to Ohio University and got all of his ratings. Than he came to Waynesville and learned how to fly. Skip > [Original Message] > From: Charles Burkholder > To: > Date: 1/9/2013 5:07:01 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School > > > Hi John isn't that interesting. I drove down all the way from Ontario and > got my PPL license at Red stewart in 24 days. The best place in the > world...... It's so laid back and very grass roots kind of flying. Start > you off in the good ole' J3 Cub or Aeronca. Solo that and then stick you in > the C-150 for the rest. I've landed at Wright Bro many of times. Flew and > soloed a total of 4 of their planes for less money then anywhere else. I > definately recommend them..... > All the best > Charles Burkholder ________________________________ Message 52 ____________________________________ Time: 07:36:40 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aviation Ground School You'll obviously need one of these! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BMqRfEu7A4 Way too much fun! Clif Life is uncertain. Eat dessert first If my wife continues on to get her license as well, that will plant the seed for building another aircraft...for her...8^ [ ) Of course since I will be building it, I get to decide which type, color, engine,... Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 53 ____________________________________ Time: 08:09:03 PM PST US From: "Greg Cardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fin and rudder drain holes Santiago, Drain holes are a good idea any place water might collect. After the infamous rain deluge during Brodhead 2010 NX18235 had water sloshing around in the rudder, elevators and ailerons. I had to poke a few additional holes before I could fly home. Greg Cardinal Minneapolis ----- Original Message ----- From: santiago morete To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fin and rudder drain holes Hi everybody! I covered the tail surfaces and I am currently making the drain holes. My question is, does any of you made =8B=8Bdrain holes in the fin and rudder? I have seen many pictures looking for this, and I think most people don't have drain holes in the fin, is that correct? Thanks! Santiago ________________________________ Message 54 ____________________________________ Time: 08:25:20 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pics of BHP #10 Model T powered 1st "Sky Scout" From: "TaiwanTeacher" UPDATE: First attempt at printing = Not as clear as I would like. Will have to try again. -------- Pietenpol's Forever! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391957#391957 ________________________________ Message 55 ____________________________________ Time: 08:26:58 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School From: "onedgerc" I highly recommend Red Stewart Airfrield for your flight training. I started flying there back in 1993. At that time they had 4 J-3, Champ, T-craft, couple 150's , 172, and a couple other airplanes. In my opinion you can't ask for a more interesting experience. I started flying the J-3 Cub and then progressed to the C-150 to get my Private License. I was 18 years old and it was a perfect place for someone like me. They gave me a job in the summer time. I washed planes and mowed many acres of grass, On my first day of work they had me run across the airport and asked a guy for some prop wash ( which was the newbie joke). LOL, but what could have been better at that age. It's a family ran business that has been there since 1946. When you stop into the airport you will more than likely meet Cubby, Kathy, Emerson, Sara,and Dink. Many of my friends learned to fly at Red's and we can't recommend it enough to all the new comers and the ones that want to learn something about grass roots taildraggers. Red Stewart's doesn't have a 141 program so the VA and GI bill's will not work. Going to a flight school like Wright Brothers isn't a bad thing. You can get your ratings fast and once you get finished with all your training, going to Red Stewart's will be a breeze. If you live closer to Columbus. You can check out See Aviation at the Centerburg Airport. Bill See has 2-3 very nice Champs and a C-172. He specializes in Tailwheel instruction. Bill Built a nice bunk house for people that traveled to his airport for instruction. Shad also keeps his Pietenpol at this airport. Here is a picture of one of Waynesvilles/ Red Stewart Cub's/ on skis.. a little long winded, sorry Dewey Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391958#391958 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/waynesville_cub_481.jpg ________________________________ Message 56 ____________________________________ Time: 08:37:30 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis From: "Baldeagle" Speaking of Texas, Pietenpols, and skis: http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/ladygreywolf/ranch.html - Could've used a bigger tailwheel... - -------- do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391960#391960 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.