Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Thu 01/10/13


Total Messages Posted: 33



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     1. 12:13 AM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Clif Dawson)
     2. 03:53 AM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Charles Burkholder)
     3. 04:10 AM - Re: Fin and rudder drain holes (helspersew@aol.com)
     4. 04:53 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (Michael Perez)
     5. 04:55 AM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Steve Emo)
     6. 07:53 AM - drain holes and Stewarts airfield...and proposed Brodhead group flight 2013' (Douwe Blumberg)
     7. 09:20 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (AircamperN11MS)
     8. 10:05 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (BYD)
     9. 10:12 AM - Re: Aviation Ground School (AircamperN11MS)
    10. 10:34 AM - Re: drain holes and Stewarts airfield...and proposed Brodhead gr (Don Emch)
    11. 10:39 AM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Matthew VanDervort)
    12. 11:09 AM - Re: drain holes and Stewarts airfield...and proposed Brodhead group flight 2013' (shad bell)
    13. 11:18 AM - Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (shad bell)
    14. 11:25 AM - Re: Fin and rudder drain holes (shad bell)
    15. 11:30 AM - Re: Re: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis (shad bell)
    16. 12:18 PM - Re: Re: Aviation Ground School (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
    17. 12:30 PM - Re: Aviation Ground School (John Francis)
    18. 12:39 PM - Piets to Brodhead (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
    19. 12:52 PM - Re: Piets to Brodhead (Gene Rambo)
    20. 01:10 PM - grass strips enroute to Brodhead (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
    21. 01:36 PM - Re: Piets to Brodhead (shad bell)
    22. 02:48 PM - Re: Piets to Brodhead (Jack Phillips)
    23. 02:51 PM - Re: Piets to Brodhead (Jack Phillips)
    24. 03:16 PM - Re: Piets to Brodhead (John Francis)
    25. 03:49 PM - Re: Piets to Brodhead (helspersew@aol.com)
    26. 05:40 PM - Re: Piets to Brodhead (Greg Cardinal)
    27. 05:46 PM - Re: Piets to Brodhead (Jack Phillips)
    28. 05:56 PM - Re: Aviation Ground School (tools)
    29. 05:57 PM - Corvair Power (Gary Boothe)
    30. 06:20 PM - Piet Directory (Jack)
    31. 07:36 PM - Fin and rudder drain holes (santiago morete)
    32. 07:45 PM - Re: Piets to Brodhead (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
    33. 09:29 PM - Memories of Poplar Grove (shad bell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:13:50 AM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Aviation Ground School
    Here in Canuk Land there are four possibilies, Basic UL, Advanced UL, Recreational and Private. In the advanced UL you can fly two seat AC BUT you have to have a full medical ( class3) to do so. I discovered the Reccy only requires the class 4 self declared med! You can fly exactly as with a full Private except for two things, only one pax allowed and no flying outside Canada. Since I'm closing in rapidly on 70 and already have a long unused Private ( 1962 ) why take a chance with a full med if I don't have to. So I've been flying 3 yrs now downsized to reccy. Oh, and have never flown one of them flying thingies with the little wheel on the front. :-) What's up with that? Clif Nature gave man two ends. One to sit on and one to think with. Ever since, man's success has been dependent on the one he uses most ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School Another one to keep in mind is the recreational certificate. 15 hours dual 15 solo, does require a medical but, it's a 1 time cross country sign off. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 9, 2013, at 5:46 PM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> wrote: That's very cool John! I hope to get a flight in prior to the end of the month...we'll see. Keep me, (us) posted on how things are going and if you come accross something that you feel I should be aware of as we train, let me know. (I'll do the same.) Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ========= >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========= cs.com ========= matronics.com/contribution =========


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    Time: 03:53:23 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Burkholder" <born2fly@abcmailbox.net>
    Subject: Re: Aviation Ground School
    I have pretty much the same story. Went down there when I was 18 and soloed within 8 days of getting there. Loved every second of it. Helped launch gliders, washed many planes including a greasy old stearman. The folks there are the nicest people you'd meet. All the instructors are 10,000+ hr pilots so they're sure to teach you right. When I was getting ready for my written test a guy promised me an aerobatic flight in the stearman if I passed. Probably the best ride of my life. He even let me do a loop.....I would recommend you do all your PPL training there as well. Charles B ----- Original Message ----- From: "onedgerc" <onedgerc@yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 11:26 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School > > I highly recommend Red Stewart Airfrield for your flight training. I > started flying there back in 1993. At that time they had 4 J-3, Champ, > T-craft, couple 150's , 172, and a couple other airplanes. In my opinion > you can't ask for a more interesting experience. I started flying the J-3 > Cub and then progressed to the C-150 to get my Private License. I was 18 > years old and it was a perfect place for someone like me. They gave me a > job in the summer time. I washed planes and mowed many acres of grass, On > my first day of work they had me run across the airport and asked a guy > for some prop wash ( which was the newbie joke). LOL, but what could have > been better at that age. It's a family ran business that has been there > since 1946. When you stop into the airport you will more than likely meet > Cubby, Kathy, Emerson, Sara,and Dink. Many of my friends learned to fly at > Red's and we can't recommend it enough to all the new comers and the ones > that want to learn something about grass ! > > roots taildraggers. > > Red Stewart's doesn't have a 141 program so the VA and GI bill's will not > work. Going to a flight school like Wright Brothers isn't a bad thing. You > can get your ratings fast and once you get finished with all your > training, going to Red Stewart's will be a breeze. > > If you live closer to Columbus. You can check out See Aviation at the > Centerburg Airport. Bill See has 2-3 very nice Champs and a C-172. He > specializes in Tailwheel instruction. Bill Built a nice bunk house for > people that traveled to his airport for instruction. Shad also keeps his > Pietenpol at this airport. > > Here is a picture of one of Waynesvilles/ Red Stewart Cub's/ on skis.. > > a little long winded, sorry > > Dewey > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391958#391958 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/waynesville_cub_481.jpg > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >


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    Time: 04:10:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fin and rudder drain holes
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Santiago, Greg's post reminded me of that deluge. My Piet's fuse was filled with wate r. I had to lift the tail high in order for it to drain. Now I have fabrica ted a cover that extends from the prop to aft of the pilot pit for such oc cations. The quote from the famous Axel Olsson seems appropriate here again ......"I didn't like it much" Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Greg Cardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net> Sent: Wed, Jan 9, 2013 10:09 pm Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fin and rudder drain holes Santiago, Drain holes are a good idea any place water might collect. After the infamous rain deluge during Brodhead 2010 NX18235 had water slosh ing around in the rudder, elevators and ailerons. I had to poke a few addit ional holes before I could fly home. Greg Cardinal Minneapolis ----- Original Message ----- From: santiago morete Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fin and rudder drain holes Hi everybody! I covered the tail surfaces and I am currently making the drain holes. My question is, does any of you made =8B=8Bdrain holes in the f in and rudder? I have seen many pictures looking for this, and I think mo st people don't have drain holes in the fin, is that correct? Thanks! Santiago href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matro nics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 04:53:39 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Aviation Ground School
    I live about 25 min. from downtown Cleveland. There is Burke Lakefront Airport, perhaps we could "dock" our anphib. there... Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 04:55:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aviation Ground School
    From: Steve Emo <steve.emo58@gmail.com>
    Red stewart = A number 1 !! I went there after I had lots of others hours and CFII rating and finally learned to fly-- got the conventional gear endorsement from Emerson Stewart... Steve On Jan 9, 2013, at 9:25 PM, "John Francis" <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote: > > Donna Hanshew, the Manager of Flight Training at Wright Bros. highly recommended Red Stewart Field for all my training outside of this program. Many pilots I know speak of them like you do Jack. That is where I was going to originally get my sport license. > > -------- > John Francis > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391944#391944 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:53:20 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: drain holes and Stewarts airfield...and proposed Brodhead
    group flight 2013' Hey all! Hope you are all well and have a blessed new year! Regarding drain holes, the more the merrier in my opinion. When deciding where to put them, try to imagine anywhere that water could accumulate, especially at the lower end of things like the rear of the fuselage, rear of the horizontal stab, elevators (flippers), bottom of the rudder, bottom of the fin, trailing edge of the wing, rear of the center section, and don't forget the cockpits, especially in front of any bulkheads that will block water. I just melted them in the ceconite with a round soldering iron, formed a nice "plastic" ring around the hole and went super quick. Regarding Red Stewarts' field, can't recommend them enough. Got my tailwheel endorsement there and kept "Re-PIET" there the first month while I got the hang of her on grass. Great place.. kind of like stepping back in time. I used to take my daughter up and we'd just eat lunch outside the office and soak up the ambiance. On the Brodhead front. at this point, who is thinking of flying up and coming anywhere near the Cincinnati, southern Ohio area on the way? I THINK there are quite a few guys coming through the general vicinity. Maybe we could start planning a rendezvous and all fly up in style. while showing us newbies the way. Stewarts would be a perfect place to meet up. Am finally finishing up the cooling eyebrows. Hope to have them on next week and begin flying again on the decently warm days. Douwe


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    Time: 09:20:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aviation Ground School
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    They all sound like great flight schools. My two cents here, What ever flight school you choose, make sure you get along with and understand the instructor well. The more you can fly each week the fewer hours it will take for you to accomplish whatever task you are working on whether it is your Light Sport, Private or some other rating. Since the ultimate goal is to fly your own Piet that you built yourself or any other fixed wing please do this. Learn to fly that Cub, Cessna 150, Piper Cherokee or some other plane in slow flight. Get used to how it reacts. Feel the controls, listen to the wind, engine and prop noises. They will all tell you what the airplane wants. Get intimate with it. The more you do it, the more you will feel comfortable with the plane and will soon become one with it. It is great practice and fun to boot. Just do it at a safe altitude. The Piet flies slow and will bleed off airspeed very fast, even at full throttle. All of the slow flight skills you had learned will fit nicely with the Piet. Before you know it, flying will become an instinct and your sense will help all of your decision making. Now go out and have fun, That is all. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391985#391985


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    Time: 10:05:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aviation Ground School
    From: "BYD" <billsayre@ymail.com>
    A number of times I have heard people interested in learning to fly and looking at the Sport Pilot license as an option state that you cant fly more than 50-nm from the takeoff airport. Can someone explain where that comes from? I have searched both EAA and AOPA websites and read through the FARs and cant find it. The FARs do require cross country instruction (2-hours I believe) and a solo cross country flight with a full stop landing at least 75-nm away but I cant find any X-C restriction on a licensed Sport Pilot once he/she is certified. Also, the class B, C, or D airspace and towered airport restriction simply need endorsements from an authorized instructor in accordance with 61.325 certifying you are authorized to exercise these privileges. I assume like any endorsement (tail-wheel endorsement for example) once youre signed off, you can exercise these privileges. Can someone point to where these restrictions are called out for a licensed Sport Pilot? Thanks. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391986#391986


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    Time: 10:12:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aviation Ground School
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    I believe that what you are hearing has been confused with the recreational pilots license. I'm sure Jack can confirm that. I don't think Sport Pilot has any distance restrictions. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391987#391987


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    Time: 10:34:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: drain holes and Stewarts airfield...and proposed Brodhead
    gr
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    Douwe, I am hoping to make the Brodhead run this year. My son, Ryan, is begging to go on up to "the other less significant" fly-in afterwards. It's a long way off but it is nice to think about it in cold January. I might be able to catch up with you but may be a little north of you. Anybody interested in heading to the other one afterwards? Might be fun to try to get a few Piets up there. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391988#391988


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    Time: 10:39:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aviation Ground School
    From: Matthew VanDervort <matthew.vandervort@gmail.com>
    recreational requires a 1 time sign off for cross country per FAR 61.101 c (c) A person who holds a recreational pilot certificate may act as pilot in command of an aircraft on a flight that exceeds 50 nautical miles from the departure airport, provided that person has=94 (1) Received ground and flight training from an authorized instructor on the cross-country training requirements of subpart E of this part that apply to the aircraft rating held; (2) Been found proficient in cross-country flying; and (3) Received from an authorized instructor a logbook endorsement, which is carried on the person's possession in the aircraft, that certifies the person has received and been found proficient in the cross-country training requirements of subpart E of this part that apply to the aircraft rating held. but 61.315 mentions nothing about cross country sign off or limitations. =C2=A7 61.315 What are the privileges and limits of my sport pilot certif icate? (a) If you hold a sport pilot certificate you may act as pilot in command of a light-sport aircraft, except as specified in paragraph (c) of this section. (b) You may share the operating expenses of a flight with a passenger, provided the expenses involve only fuel, oil, airport expenses, or aircraft rental fees. You must pay at least half the operating expenses of the flight. (c) You may not act as pilot in command of a light-sport aircraft: (1) That is carrying a passenger or property for compensation or hire. (2) For compensation or hire. (3) In furtherance of a business. (4) While carrying more than one passenger. (5) At night. (6) In Class A airspace. (7) In Class B, C, and D airspace, at an airport located in Class B, C, or D airspace, and to, from, through, or at an airport having an operational control tower unless you have met the requirements specified in =C2=A7 61.3 25. (8) Outside the United States, unless you have prior authorization from the country in which you seek to operate. Your sport pilot certificate carries the limit =9CHolder does not meet ICAO requirements.=9D (9) To demonstrate the aircraft in flight to a prospective buyer if you are an aircraft salesperson. (10) In a passenger-carrying airlift sponsored by a charitable organization . (11) At an altitude of more than 10,000 feet MSL or 2,000 feet AGL, whichever is higher. (12) When the flight or surface visibility is less than 3 statute miles. (13) Without visual reference to the surface. (14) If the aircraft: (i) Has a VH greater than 87 knots CAS, unless you have met the requirements of =C2=A7 61.327(b). (ii) Has a VH less than or equal to 87 knots CAS, unless you have met the requirements of =C2=A7 61.327(a) or have logged flight time as pilot in com mand of an airplane with a VH less than or equal to 87 knots CAS before April 2, 2010. (15) Contrary to any operating limitation placed on the airworthiness certificate of the aircraft being flown. (16) Contrary to any limit on your pilot certificate or airman medical certificate, or any other limit or endorsement from an authorized instructor. (17) Contrary to any restriction or limitation on your U.S. driver's license or any restriction or limitation imposed by judicial or administrative order when using your driver's license to satisfy a requirement of this part. (18) While towing any object. (19) As a pilot flight crewmember on any aircraft for which more than one pilot is required by the type certificate of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is conducted. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:12 PM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>w rote: > Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> > > I believe that what you are hearing has been confused with the > recreational pilots license. I'm sure Jack can confirm that. I don't > think Sport Pilot has any distance restrictions. > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391987#391987 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


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    Time: 11:09:20 AM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: drain holes and Stewarts airfield...and proposed Brodhead
    group flight 2013' Douwe, Don, Mike C. =C2-Dad and I might be going to Brodhead=C2-this year, but like Don, I am a ways north of you.=C2- The best place to meet might be in North West IN, or South of Chicago area.=C2- That would give us at least=C2-2-3 h rs of formation time enroute to Brodhead.=C2- A couple years ago I propos ed a camp out here the night before heading up, but due to weather and late planning on my part, =C2-it didn't work out.=C2- Stay in touch, we hav e a few months to sort it out. =C2- Shad --- On Thu, 1/10/13, Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote: From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> Subject: Pietenpol-List: drain holes and Stewarts airfield...and proposed B rodhead group flight 2013' Hey all! =C2- Hope you are all well and have a blessed new year! =C2- Regarding drain holes, the more the merrier in my opinion.=C2- When decid ing where to put them, try to imagine anywhere that water could accumulate, especially at the lower end of things like the rear of the fuselage, rear of the horizontal stab, elevators (flippers), bottom of the rudder, bottom of the fin, trailing edge of the wing, rear of the center section, and don =99t forget the cockpits, especially in front of any bulkheads that w ill block water. =C2- I just melted them in the ceconite with a round soldering iron, formed a ni ce =9Cplastic=9D ring around the hole and went super quick. =C2- Regarding Red Stewarts=99 field, can=99t recommend them enough. =C2- Got my tailwheel endorsement there and kept =9CRe-PIET =9D there the first month while I got the hang of her on grass.=C2- Great place.. kind of like stepping back in time.=C2- I used to take my daught er up and we=99d just eat lunch outside the office and soak up the am biance. =C2- On the Brodhead front at this point, who is thinking of flying up and coming anywhere near the Cincinnati , southern Ohio area on the way?=C2 - I THINK there are quite a few guys coming through the general vicinity. =C2- Maybe we could start planning a rendezvous and all fly up in style while showing us newbies the way.=C2- Stewarts would be a perfe ct place to meet up. =C2- Am finally finishing up the cooling eyebrows.=C2- Hope to have them on ne xt week and begin flying again on the decently warm days. =C2- Douwe


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    Time: 11:18:07 AM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis
    I have a magizine article somewhere that talked about the Texas Panhandle P ietenpol Rescue.- As I recall, He flew a mother and very young child out to get medical attention.- I am wanting to say he flew them out of a oil pump house.- I remember it saying that that Pietenpol was the 1st known a irplane to be flown out of texas with skis.- If I can find it I will scan and upload it. - Shad --- On Wed, 1/9/13, Baldeagle <baldeagle27@earthlink.net> wrote: From: Baldeagle <baldeagle27@earthlink.net> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis t> Speaking of Texas, Pietenpols, and skis: http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/ladygreywolf/ranch.html -- Could've used a bigger tailwheel... - -------- do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391960#391960 le, List Admin.


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    Time: 11:25:05 AM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Fin and rudder drain holes
    One thing that you may want to do is put some drain holes in the forward si de of the elevator as well.=C2- We did not do it, but the last time I was at Brodhead in 2011, it rained every day, and I usually tie the stick back with the seatbelt to keep it from slapping around in the wind.=C2- This will cause the water to sit against the forward elevator spar.=C2- I don' t know if anyone else has done this.=C2- It's not to big of a deal I gues s, it only sits out in the rain once every couple of years. =C2- Shad --- On Wed, 1/9/13, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fin and rudder drain holes Hi Santiago , =C2- I put drain holes in both fin and rudder.=C3=82=C2- I put seaplane gromme ts over the holes at the bottom of the rudder, to keep water from splashing up into the holes. =C2- Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia =C2- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of santiago morete Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 1:22 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fin and rudder drain holes =C2- Hi everybody! I covered the tail surfaces and I am currently making the drain holes. My q uestion is, does any of you made =C3=A2=82=AC=B9=C3=A2=82=AC =B9drain holes in the fin and rudder? I have seen many pictures looking for this, and I think most people don't have drain holes in the fin, is tha t correct? Thanks! =C2- Santiago=C2- =C2- =C2-http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Li sthttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution =C2-


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    Time: 11:30:55 AM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis
    Or here in Ohio we have a term for that, Ski Mask.- Which legend tells is a Mask that was-worn by people who SKI.- Sorry couln't resist. - Shad Do not archive --- On Wed, 1/9/13, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the s kis Here, let me Google that for you: - - Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia - -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of C N Campbell Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:33 PM Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the s kis - .net> - Hey guys!- For the benefit of us Southern boys, how about telling us what a Baliclava is.- I have some ideas but have never seen or heard the word before.- C Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:52 AM Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just can't seem to get enough of the skis - - > <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> > - > Years ago I wore a silk Baliclava while riding my motorcycle in the Texas > Panhandle winters. Thin, light and warm covered my nose. It was split on > the side of the lower neck and tucked way down in my shirt front and back , > preventing cold air from getting in. > - > Just a thot. > - > Steve D > - > - > - > - > - - - - -


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    Time: 12:18:15 PM PST US
    From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
    Subject: Re: Aviation Ground School
    Let me add two things to Scott's good advice. 1. Don't spend your money not learning or dealing with a bad instructor. 2. Get a mentor to assist you. 1. Your instructor will probably be good. But if you have a problem with your instructor, don't hesitate, discuss it with them. Most are good instructors and you can figure it out. BUT, if you can't or don't seem to learn from him, If it is just a personality issue, If it is a scheduling issue, if it is an inability to understand (language), if you just aren't getting what he is teaching, if you can't get it straight get a differerent instructor. Go to the head instructor and discuss it. It is not personal and don't approach it that way. Some great guys have trouble "meshing" for the flight training experience. Don't spend your money on instruction that is not efficient. My first flight instructor was great He was Dutch and we really hit it off and he taught me a lot. Then I had to switch, the next instructor was a Swede. He really screwed me up. The Chief CFI of the club noticed I was backsliding and took me for a check. He retrained me the way my first instrutor taught me and ended up firing the Swede and the FAA made the Swede do some retraining (it was that bad) And I paid for about 10 hours between the Swede and retraining the right way. 2. Get a mentor. A Mentor is any trusted and more experienced pilot that you get along with. Between lessons you can tell him what you learned or what you don't understand, and he will explain it or tell you a "There I was" story about that very situation. You can ask him questions in an environment where the pay clock is not ticking. He does not replace your instructor and they should get along. He can be paid with free coffee or donuts. He will also be flattered that you respect his opinion. Blue Skies, Steve D PS while there may be some phases that can be difficult or trying, you should enjoy the training. Don't forget to look out every once in a while and tell yourself "WOW! I am flying, what a view!" If you are not enjoying the lessons, figure out why. If you enjoy learning to fly, you will love flying on your own. ----- Original Message ----- From: AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aviation Ground School > > They all sound like great flight schools. > > My two cents here, What ever flight school you choose, make sure you get along with and understand the instructor well. The more you can fly each > week the fewer hours it will take for you to accomplish whatever > task you are working on whether it is your Light Sport, Private or > some other rating. Since the ultimate goal is to fly your own > Piet that you built yourself or any other fixed wing please do > this. Learn to fly that Cub, Cessna 150, Piper Cherokee or some > other plane in slow flight. Get used to how it reacts. Feel the > controls, listen to the wind, engine and prop noises. They will > all tell you what the airplane wants. Get intimate with it. The > more you do it, the more you will feel comfortable with the plane > and will soon become one with it. It is great practice and fun to > boot. Just do it at a safe altitude. > > The Piet flies slow and will bleed off airspeed very fast, even at > full throttle. All of the slow flight skills you had learned will > fit nicely with the Piet. Before you know it, flying will become > an instinct and your sense will help all of your decision making. > > Now go out and have fun, That is all. > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391985#391985 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:30:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aviation Ground School
    From: "John Francis" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
    About 6 months ago I called Red Stewart Field to discuss the Sports Pilot training they offer. I was told then that I would fly my first four lessons with different instructors. I then got to choose who I liked best. -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391998#391998


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    Time: 12:39:58 PM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Piets to Brodhead
    SWYgSSBmbHkgdXAgdGhpcyB5ZWFyIFNoYWQgSeKAmWQgYmUgZ2FtZSB0byBtZWV0IHVwIGluIHRo ZSBDaGljYWdvbGFuZCBhcmVhLiAgIEkgaGFkIGEgZ3JlYXQgb3Zlcm5pZ2h0IGF0DQpMZXdpcyBV bml2ZXJzaXR5IEFpcnBvcnQvIFJvbWVvdmlsbGUsIElMIGJ1dCBsb3RzIG9mIHBsYWNlcyB0byBt ZWV0IGlmIG91ciBzY2hlZHVsZXMgYW5kIHRoZSB3ZWF0aGVyIHdvcmtzDQpvdXQuDQoNCkFueXdo ZXJlIGluIHRoYXQgc291dGh3ZXN0IENoaWNhZ28gc3VidXJiIGFyZWEgaXMgZmluZSBieSBtZS4N Cg0KTWlrZSBDLg0KDQoNCihob3BpbmcgdG8gZ2V0IG15IGxpY2Vuc2UgZmluYWxseSBzb21ldGlt ZSB0aGlzIHllYXLimLogISEpDQoNCg=


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    Time: 12:52:55 PM PST US
    From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
    Subject: Piets to Brodhead
    DQpJIGFtIHBsYW5uaW5nIHRvIGZseSBvdXQgd2l0aCBKYWNrIFBoaWxsaXBzLCBNYXR0IFBheHRv biwgYW5kIEJyZXR0IFBoaWxsaXBzICh5ZXMsIHlvdSBBUkUhISEpLCBzbyB3ZSBuZWVkIHRvIG1h a2UgYXJyYW5nZW1lbnRzIGZvciBhIHdob2xlIGdhZ2dsZSEhICBMb29raW5nIHRvIGxpbmsgdXAg YWlycG9ydHMgd2l0aCBncmFzcyBzaW5jZSBJIGhhdmUgdGFpbHNraWQsIHNvIGFsbCBzdWdnZXN0 aW9ucyBhcHByZWNpYXRlZC4gR2VuZSBSYW1ibyANCiBGcm9tOiBtaWNoYWVsLmQuY3V5QG5hc2Eu Z292DQpUbzogcGlldGVucG9sLWxpc3RAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbQ0KRGF0ZTogVGh1LCAxMCBKYW4g MjAxMyAxNDozOToyNSAtMDYwMA0KU3ViamVjdDogUGlldGVucG9sLUxpc3Q6IFBpZXRzIHRvIEJy b2RoZWFkDQoNCklmIEkgZmx5IHVwIHRoaXMgeWVhciBTaGFkIEnigJlkIGJlIGdhbWUgdG8gbWVl dCB1cCBpbiB0aGUgQ2hpY2Fnb2xhbmQgYXJlYS4gICBJIGhhZCBhIGdyZWF0IG92ZXJuaWdodCBh dExld2lzIFVuaXZlcnNpdHkgQWlycG9ydC8gUm9tZW92aWxsZSwgSUwgYnV0IGxvdHMgb2YgcGxh Y2VzIHRvIG1lZXQgaWYgb3VyIHNjaGVkdWxlcyBhbmQgdGhlIHdlYXRoZXIgd29ya3NvdXQuICAg QW55d2hlcmUgaW4gdGhhdCBzb3V0aHdlc3QgQ2hpY2FnbyBzdWJ1cmIgYXJlYSBpcyBmaW5lIGJ5 IG1lLiAgICBNaWtlIEMuICAoaG9waW5nIHRvIGdldCBteSBsaWNlbnNlIGZpbmFsbHkgc29tZXRp bWUgdGhpcyB5ZWFySiAhISkgIA0Ka3nvv73vv73vv70i77+97ZyiWivvv71NNO+/vUfvv71x77+9 KO+/ve+/ve+/ve+/vXfvv71y77+977+977+977+904Xvv73vv71616fvv73vv71L77+977+9RO+/ ve+/ve+/vRbvv73vv71LHu+/vRfvv71q77+977+9JywuKy0V5q2677+977+9Ne+/veKBq2jvv73v v70b77+977+9LHrvv71e77+977+977+9List77+92KXvv73Ynu+/vcuc77+977+9C++/ve+/vVTv v73vv71u77+9K++/ve+/vWLvv71wK3IY77+9eSfvv73vv73vv71D77+9CeWhp3sNCu+/ve+/ve+/ ve+/vSx4KFrvv71QED4aLe+/ve+/vVrvv73vv712a++/ve+/vWvvv73vv71qK3nvv71ree+/vW3v v73vv73vv73vv70MJmrvv73vv70nLHLvv73vv70177+94oGraO+/ve+/ve+/ve+/ve+/ve+/vVLv v73vv71t77+977+977+977+9DCZq77+977+9Jyxy77+977+9Ne+/veKBq2jvv73vv73vv73vv73v v73vv71S77+977+977+9MATvv70477+9AklhARTvv71UMSTvv73vv73vv70ree+/vVzvv717Xu+/ vdal77+977+977+9ailablfvv73vv73vv71heWfvv70W77+977+9xqHvv73vv73vv73vv71/77+9 77+9K++/vWsmau+/ve+/vScscu+/ve+/ve+/ve+/vX/vv73vv70r77+9ayZq77+977+9Jyxy77+9 77+9aO+/ve+/ve+/vSon77+977+977+977+92Kjvv71n77+9SiteThbvv73vv70qLn7vv73vv73v v73vv716d++/ve+/ve+/vSzvv73vv71o77+977+9Gu+/ve+/ve+/vWpZXi4rLQHZou+/ve+/vWt5 77+9be+/ve+/ve+/ve+/vQwmau+/ve+/vScscu+/ve+/vXLvv73vv70m77+9Kifvv73vv71p77+9 77+9MO+/vWbvv73vv73vv73vv71y77+9KO+/ve+/vSjvv73vv73vv71u77+9Yu+/vX/vv73vv73v v73font/77+977+977+9bu+/vXLvv70bZiAJCSAJICAgCQkgIA=


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    Time: 01:10:07 PM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: grass strips enroute to Brodhead
    Frank Pavliga and Andrew King are the Charles Kuralts of where the best grass airports/fields are enroute to Brodhead and probably Don Emch too even though hes sporting a modern rubberized tailwheel like I have. Im surprised at how many conventional general aviation airports have grass runways as well even in this day but Andrew and Frank know the grass strips that not only are decent but have connections to get fuel as well if not fuel on the field. Mike C.


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    Time: 01:36:24 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Piets to Brodhead
    JOT (Joliet) has a decent grass runway, Just don't land downwind (Right Don , lol).=C2- It is kind of a crowded airport in the middle of population. =C2- A big smokestack to the south, a gas station off the north end of th e paved runway, and 2-3 story buildings in all other directions.=C2- I ne ver had any issues coming out of there, but it was interesting in 2011 when I took off headed for brodhead, and it was 103 degrees.=C2- =C2- Looking forward to seeing Ya'll again, Shad Do not archive --- On Thu, 1/10/13, Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> wrote: From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead I am planning to fly out with Jack Phillips, Matt Paxton,=C2-and Brett Ph illips (yes, you=C2-ARE!!!), so we need to make arrangements for a whole gaggle!!=C2- Looking to link up airports with grass since I have tailskid , so all suggestions appreciated. =C2- Gene Rambo=C2- =C2- From: michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead If I 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    Time: 02:48:34 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Piets to Brodhead
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    Time: 02:51:03 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Piets to Brodhead
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    Time: 03:16:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Piets to Brodhead
    From: "John Francis" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
    The Piqua (Shelby County, OH) put in a long grass strip last year. They have fuel and I could help with any needs as you pass through. Well not ANY needs! John -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392026#392026


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    Time: 03:49:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Piets to Brodhead
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Maybe the whole shoot'n match could make the last fuel stop Poplar Grove. G reat multiple grass strips 17/35 and 9/27. Gene, you could taxi on the gras s until very close to the fuel pumps, shut it down and push for a short way . And if for some reason the WX or darkness closes in at PG I have (and pro bably will have because nobody is even looking at it) a huge empty house (f or sale) where everybody could sack out. It's gonna be a GREAT year at Brod head!! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Sent: Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:49 pm Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead Gene, depending on where in Virginia our launch point is, we could plan on RedStewart airfield in Waynesville Ohioas a fuel stop which would be close enough for Douwe to join up with us. Ithas grass and gas, so would be a go od stop for you. You will be the limitingfactor for us with your =9C to the plans=9D little bitty gas tank and lack of brakesand steering ability, so you get to choose the stops. I=99ve generally gone through Beckley West Virginia, but that is not a particularly good airportfor you. Past Beckley, I usually stop in Ports mouth Ohioas my next stop, but that may be beyond your range. Once we get across theOhio River we can breathe a little easier and relax our sphincter s, with West Virginia past us. On a slightly different note, but on thesubject of great fields, try Lowell Indiana, on the Illinois border. A verynice grass field with a 90 year ol d owner who will take you out in the adjacentcornfield and pick and give to you as many ears of fresh sweet corn as you cancarry. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list- server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo Sent: Thursday, January 10, 20133:52 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietsto Brodhead I am planning to fly out with Jack Phillips, MattPaxton, and Brett Phillips (yes, you ARE!!!), so we need to makearrangements for a whole gaggle!! Lo oking to link up airports with grasssince I have tailskid, so all suggestio ns appreciated. Gene Rambo From: michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead If I fly up this year Shad I=99d be game to meet up in theChicagoland area. I had a great overnight at Lewis University Airport/Romeoville, IL but lots of places to meet if oursc hedules and the weather works out. Anywhere in that southwest Chicago suburb area is fine byme. Mike C. (hoping to get my license finally sometime this yearJ !!) ky=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD"=EF=BD=ED=9C=A2Z+=EF=BDM4=EF=BDG=EF =BDq=EF=BD(=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDw=EF=BDr=EF=BD =EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=D3=85=EF=BD=EF=BDz=D7=A7=EF=BD=EF =BDK=EF=BD=EF=BDD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDK =91=EF=BD=EF=BDj=EF=BD=EF=BD',.+-=E6=AD=BA=EF=BD=EF=BD5 =EF=BD=81=ABh=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD,z=EF=BD^=EF =BD=EF=BD=EF=BD.+-=EF=BD=D8=A5=EF=BD=D8=9E=EF=BD=CB=9C=EF =BD=EF=BD =EF=BD=EF=BDT=EF=BD=EF=BDn=EF=BD+=EF=BD=EF=BDb=EF =BDp+r=EF=BDy'=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDC=EF=BD =E5=A1=A7{ =EF=BD =EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD,x(Z=EF=BDP>-=EF=BD=EF=BDZ=EF=BD=EF =BDvk=EF=BD=EF=BDk=EF=BD=EF=BDj+y=EF=BDky=EF=BDm=EF =BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD &j=EF=BD=EF=BD',r=EF=BD=EF=BD5=EF=BD=81=ABh=EF=BD=EF =BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDR=EF=BD=EF=BDm=EF=BD=EF =BD=EF=BD=EF=BD &j=EF=BD=EF=BD',r=EF=BD=EF=BD5=EF=BD=81=ABh=EF=BD=EF =BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDR=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD0 =EF=BD8=EF=BD[1]Ia=EF=BDT1$=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD+y=EF=BD\ =EF=BD{^=EF=BD=D6=A5=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDj)ZnW=EF=BD=EF =BD=EF=BDayg=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=C6=A1=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD =EF=BD =EF=BD=EF=BD+=EF=BDk&j=EF=BD=EF=BD',r=EF=BD=EF =BD=EF=BD=EF=BD =EF=BD=EF=BD+=EF=BDk&j=EF=BD=EF=BD' ,r=EF=BD=EF=BDh=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD*'=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF =BD=EF=BD=D8=A8=EF=BDg=EF=BDJ+^N=EF=BD=EF=BD*.~=EF=BD=EF =BD=EF=BD=EF=BDzw=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD,=EF=BD=EF=BDh =EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDjY^.+-=D9=A2=EF=BD=EF=BD ky=EF=BDm=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD &j=EF=BD=EF=BD',r=EF=BD=EF=BDr=EF=BD=EF=BD&=EF=BD*'=EF =BD=EF=BDi=EF=BD=EF=BD0=EF=BDf=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF =BDr=EF=BD(=EF=BD=EF=BD(=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDn=EF=BDb =EF=BD =EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=DF=A2{ =EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDn =EF=BDr=EF=BDf ~,g=D3=93


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    Time: 05:40:09 PM PST US
    From: "Greg Cardinal" <gcardinal@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Piets to Brodhead
    I like this idea. Those of us coming from points north and west could easily fly to Poplar Grove. We could have a mass arrival of a dozen or more Pietenpols. Maybe Jon Apfelbaum could be on hand to get some good air-to-air photos. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: helspersew@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:49 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead Maybe the whole shoot'n match could make the last fuel stop Poplar Grove. Great multiple grass strips 17/35 and 9/27. Gene, you could taxi on the grass until very close to the fuel pumps, shut it down and push for a short way. And if for some reason the WX or darkness closes in at PG I have (and probably will have because nobody is even looking at it) a huge empty house (for sale) where everybody could sack out. It's gonna be a GREAT year at Brodhead!! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:49 pm Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead Gene, depending on where in Virginia our launch point is, we could plan on Red Stewart airfield in Waynesville Ohio as a fuel stop which would be close enough for Douwe to join up with us. It has grass and gas, so would be a good stop for you. You will be the limiting factor for us with your =9Cto the plans=9D little bitty gas tank and lack of brakes and steering ability, so you get to choose the stops. I=99ve generally gone through Beckley West Virginia, but that is not a particularly good airport for you. Past Beckley, I usually stop in Portsmouth Ohio as my next stop, but that may be beyond your range. Once we get across the Ohio River we can breathe a little easier and relax our sphincters, with West Virginia past us. On a slightly different note, but on the subject of great fields, try Lowell Indiana, on the Illinois border. A very nice grass field with a 90 year old owner who will take you out in the adjacent cornfield and pick and give to you as many ears of fresh sweet corn as you can carry. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 3:52 PM To: pietenpol-list Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead I am planning to fly out with Jack Phillips, Matt Paxton, and Brett Phillips (yes, you ARE!!!), so we need to make arrangements for a whole gaggle!! Looking to link up airports with grass since I have tailskid, so all suggestions appreciated. Gene Rambo ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:39:25 -0600 Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead If I fly up this year Shad I=99d be game to meet up in the Chicagoland area. I had a great overnight at Lewis University Airport/ Romeoville, IL but lots of places to meet if our schedules and the weather works out. Anywhere in that southwest Chicago suburb area is fine by me. Mike C. 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    Time: 05:46:54 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Piets to Brodhead
    I ALWAYS make my last fuel stop at Poplar Grove. Steve and Tina Thomas are wonderful people. I=99ll never forget a couple years ago when Dan Yocum met me there (he was ferrying John Hofmann=99s new Pietenpol N502R to Brodhead) and as we were about to leave to head to C37, Steve flagged us down and told us a big thunderstorm was moving into the area. He and Tina put our Pietenpols in their personal hangar, along with Steve=99s Waco SRE and Tina=99s 1929 Brunner-Winkle Bird to wait out the storm. Now THAT=99s service! Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:49 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead Maybe the whole shoot'n match could make the last fuel stop Poplar Grove. Great multiple grass strips 17/35 and 9/27. Gene, you could taxi on the grass until very close to the fuel pumps, shut it down and push for a short way. And if for some reason the WX or darkness closes in at PG I have (and probably will have because nobody is even looking at it) a huge empty house (for sale) where everybody could sack out. It's gonna be a GREAT year at Brodhead!! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Sent: Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:49 pm Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead Gene, depending on where in Virginia our launch point is, we could plan on Red Stewart airfield in Waynesville Ohio as a fuel stop which would be close enough for Douwe to join up with us. It has grass and gas, so would be a good stop for you. You will be the limiting factor for us with your =9Cto the plans=9D little bitty gas tank and lack of brakes and steering ability, so you get to choose the stops. I=99ve generally gone through Beckley West Virginia, but that is not a particularly good airport for you. Past Beckley, I usually stop in Portsmouth Ohio as my next stop, but that may be beyond your range. Once we get across the Ohio River we can breathe a little easier and relax our sphincters, with West Virginia past us. On a slightly different note, but on the subject of great fields, try Lowell Indiana, on the Illinois border. A very nice grass field with a 90 year old owner who will take you out in the adjacent cornfield and pick and give to you as many ears of fresh sweet corn as you can carry. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com?> ] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 3:52 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead I am planning to fly out with Jack Phillips, Matt Paxton, and Brett Phillips (yes, you ARE!!!), so we need to make arrangements for a whole gaggle!! Looking to link up airports with grass since I have tailskid, so all suggestions appreciated. Gene Rambo _____ From: michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead If I fly up this year Shad I=99d be game to meet up in the Chicagoland area. I had a great overnight at Lewis University Airport/ Romeoville, IL but lots of places to meet if our schedules and the weather works out. Anywhere in that southwest Chicago suburb area is fine by me. Mike C. 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    Time: 05:56:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aviation Ground School
    From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
    I think I was mixing student pilot stuff and the higher class airspace stuff, sorry. I thought a sport pilot needed an endorsement for EVERY field he wanted to fly out of, but it looks like you only need that for airports in class b or something. Just jaunting about the country in a Piet seems to be no problem for a sport pilot, cool, one less thing. I was thinking that was overly restrictive, just never looked into it closely. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392036#392036


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    Time: 05:57:23 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Corvair Power
    If anyone is at the point of pondering what kind of power to use, William Wynne makes some poignant points on his latest set of blogs at flycorvair.net <http://www.flycorvair.net> , as well as some very generous comments about Mike Groah's plane, EAA Chapter 1279, and mine. He is also poised to publish a couple more articles, so be sure to keep an eye out for the next couple days. Gary Boothe NX308MB


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    Time: 06:20:14 PM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Piet Directory
    Thanks to all those that have sent updates or new info. It will take a couple of days to get things updated and then I will get the list sent to you. Thanks again. Jack Textor Des Moines, IA


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    Time: 07:36:33 PM PST US
    From: santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar>
    Subject: Fin and rudder drain holes
    Thank you all! I will make drain holes in my fin and rudder.=0ADan, I thoug ht about making that same kind of cover when the time comes.=0ASaludos=0A =0ASantiago


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    Time: 07:45:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Piets to Brodhead
    From: "curtdm(at)gmail.com" <curtdm@gmail.com>
    Grass is only legal in 17 states and Ohio isn't one of them. > Gene, depending on where in Virginia our launch point is, we could plan on Red Stewart airfield in Waynesville Ohio as a fuel stop which would be close enough for Douwe to join up with us. It has grass and gas, so would be a good stop for you. You will be the limiting factor for us with your to the plans little bitty gas tank and lack of brakes and steering ability, so you get to choose the stops. > > Ive generally gone through Beckley West Virginia, but that is not a particularly good airport for you. Past Beckley, I usually stop in Portsmouth Ohio as my next stop, but that may be beyond your range. Once we get across the Ohio River we can breathe a little easier and relax our sphincters, with West Virginia past us. > > On a slightly different note, but on the subject of great fields, try Lowell Indiana, on the Illinois border. A very nice grass field with a 90 year old owner who will take you out in the adjacent cornfield and pick and give to you as many ears of fresh sweet corn as you can carry. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > -------- Curt Merdan Flower Mound, TX Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392043#392043


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    Time: 09:29:44 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Memories of Poplar Grove
    Dan "The Man" has a nice house and hangar there at Poplar Grove.- He was nice enough to let Dad and I hang out there on our weather dodging trip hom e in 2011.- He was even nice enough to give me some speed tape, (aluminum tape for you civilaians) for-our propeller.- I flew out of Brodhead in a hurry to try to stay ahead of a storm, it was a sprinkle when I started to taxi, and a downpour by the time I go to the runway.- The 2 min it too k me to climbout, make a 180 and get out of the rain took most of the varni sh off the leading edge of the prop.- With Dan's help I fasioned a speed tape propeller tipping incase I ran into more rain.- - I will always remember my first trip to Poplar Grove.- It was our first a ttempt at making Brodhead in 2006.- I remember getting to the edge of the Chicago Sectional, and having to completly unfold the chart, and flip it o ver (NO GPS, and I was a rookie at the open cockpit thing).- Well, our Pi et is nose heavy and has no trim, so I had to pull the nose up 20 degrees, let go of the stick, hurry up and try to unfold the chart, then recover fro m a 20 degree nose down dive, and had to repeat that about 3 or 4 times.- When I landed I was confused, the top of the Hangar says "Belvedier" so I was not sure if it was the right airport.- I taxied to the pumps, the cha rt looked like the fringe on a pair of Harley saddle bags, and I asked the line boy if I was indeed at Poplar Grove.- - The next hour or two I waited for Dad to catch up in the truck.- During t hat time, a gentelman walked up to check out the Piet, He said he was in th e process of building one himself, and was using a Corvair.- He liked the cowling and asked Dad some questions about it.- Dad then went to the tru ck and came back with the strofoam nose bowl mold he made, and said " Here, it might be good for another one".- That gentelmans name was Curt Shipma n.-- - After hangng around and chatting about the weather, I took off and was goin g for Brodhead, and just about the end of the runway, the engine stated act ing up.- I came back around and landed.- Dad and I decided to take the Piet apart and trailer it home, as it-was the second time it-acted up o n that trip.- That was when I found out about the-generosity of Steve a nd Tina Thomas.- Steve-let us use his shop hangar to dismantle the Piet , and then offered us his trailer-to haul the airplane home.- - Aviation, grass roots aviation especially, has got to be among the best of the best groups of people.- I have met some of the most genuine and gener ous people flying the Pietenpol, and many of them are from the little town of Poplar Grove, IL.- - "You Meet The Nicest People In A Pietenpol", Shad




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