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1. 04:22 AM - Re: Horns Redone (C N Campbell)
2. 04:26 AM - Re: Pietepol fuse, rib, and tailgroup wood (C N Campbell)
3. 04:54 AM - Re: Horns Redone (nightmare)
4. 05:03 AM - Re: Re: Horns Redone (Jack)
5. 05:15 AM - Re: Re: Panel coamings (Greg Bacon)
6. 05:23 AM - Re: Re: Panel coamings (Gary Boothe)
7. 05:38 AM - Re: Panel coamings (Michael Perez)
8. 06:23 AM - Re: Re: Panel coamings (Greg Bacon)
9. 06:27 AM - Re: Re: Panel coamings (Gary Boothe)
10. 06:33 AM - Re: gas tank material (kevinpurtee)
11. 06:38 AM - Re: Re: Panel coamings (Ken Bickers)
12. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: Panel coamings (Greg Bacon)
13. 07:49 AM - Re: gas tank material (jarheadpilot82)
14. 03:17 PM - Gusset from Baltic birch (Pilot78)
15. 04:01 PM - Re: Gusset from Baltic birch (Kip and Beth Gardner)
16. 04:20 PM - Harry Riblett (Doug Dever)
17. 04:39 PM - dzus , camlock, or southco (nightmare)
18. 04:48 PM - Re: Gusset from Baltic birch (Gary Boothe)
19. 04:52 PM - Re: Gusset from Baltic birch (Gary Boothe)
20. 05:10 PM - Re: Gusset from Baltic birch (nightmare)
21. 05:55 PM - Re: Gusset from Baltic birch (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
22. 07:19 PM - Re: dzus , camlock, or southco (Bill Church)
23. 07:43 PM - Re: dzus , camlock, or southco (nightmare)
24. 07:55 PM - Re: Re: dzus , camlock, or southco (John Hofmann)
25. 08:38 PM - Re: Pietepol fuse, rib, and tailgroup wood (DOUGLAS BLACKBURN)
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| Subject: | Re: Horns Redone |
Tell me about it! Seems that I work and work and nothing gets done! Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Horns Redone
>
> Boy I wish I could Jack, at this stage the progress slows to a crawl...
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Jack Textor
>
> On Jan 13, 2013, at 4:31 PM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
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>> <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
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>> Looking good Jack. Better hurry and install them if you're going to fly
>> it
>> to Brodhead this summer. Looks like there will be several new Piets
>> there
>> this year.
>>
>> Jack Phillips
>> NX899JP
>> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack T.
>> Textor
>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 1:57 PM
>> To: Pietenpol List
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Horns Redone
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>> Much better this time around. 7 hours stripping old powder coat and
>> prepping
>> for this coat...
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| Subject: | Re: Pietepol fuse, rib, and tailgroup wood |
Gary, I corresponded with a guy who put a Corvair in a Boredom Fighter.
He says it's fine but you have to fly it every minute. He said that the
engine had to practically butt against the firewall for it to be in
balance. I really wanted to build the Boredom Fighter but had already
bought the Piet plans so decided on the Piet. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:03 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietepol fuse, rib, and tailgroup wood
Didn't mean for that to hit the Pietenpol List! I have the plans for a
Boredom Fighter.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 3:24 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietepol fuse, rib, and tailgroup wood
Huh?.............. Gary Boothe what is your next Corvair-powered
endevour? Share it with us bro!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietepol fuse, rib, and tailgroup wood
Doug,
First, I am sorry to hear this. I guess it's a point in our lives that
we reach at some point.
I am interested in all, and can pick up by this weekend. My Piet is
done, but am starting another project, which will be Corvair powered,
too. I live in N. Calif, but can easily make the drive.
Gary Boothe
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 13, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DOUGLAS BLACKBURN <twinboom@msn.com>
wrote:
Hey folks,
I was on the list a few years ago, and have been unsubscribed for
some time. I was never able to really get started due to health issues
my wife has.
I am only on to let you know I need to get rid of my project. I
have the wood for the fuse, wing ribs, and tail group. It is all Spruce.
I got most all of it from Carl Levkin, who was, and still may be a
member here. He gave me the wood for the tail group. Carl also gave me
the the wood for the fuse for a donation to his EAA chapter, in Compton.
He cut the wood up for me for the fuse, and cut the stringers to be
laminated. He said this would be stronger. Anyway, I believe I donated
75.00 bucks to the Compton EAA group for the fuse wood.I bought the wood
for the ribs from a member here for I think around 100.00, and I would
like to pass this on to someone who might have the time and where
withall to use for they're project. Carl was way kind to me while we
were in communication, and I would like to further his kindness to
someone else, pay ot forward so to speak!!
I will take 100.00 for the fuse wood, and also have a Corvair
engine I was going to retrofit for this plane as well. The engine is all
apart, but Carl had my shaft drilled and tapped for the safety shaft
needed to install the prop and adapter for same. I am moving, and need
to find a home for this stuff, hopefully someone who will use it. 100.00
bucks gets it all. As I said, I don't know if Carl is still around, if
he is and some here know him, give him my regards, he was a fine man. I
wish I could have done him right by getting the Piet built, but reallity
says it is not to be. I also have a wing rib Jib that a Gent from Down
San Diego way gave me. I remeber his name as Gene, and I believe right
before I unsubscribed from this list, he got his airworthiness
Cetificate for his Piet. I contacted him to see if he wanted the jib
back but don't think I ever heard back from him. If he is still on this
list, the jib is his, if not, it will be part of the deal here for a
hundred bucks. Please take me up on this deal, but only if you intend on
using the material to build a Piet. I am moving and it needs to go by
the 21st of January. Thanks,
Doug Blackburn, Yucaipa California
nine oh nine - seven nine zero - zero five three zero home phone,
call untill 10:00 p.m.
P.S. I won't ship, don't have time, so work something out with
someone here on the West Coast if you are interested, it really needs to
be gone in two weeks.
Doug/Elizabeth Blackburn Yucaipa California ISR Rocks
www.inlandsloperebels.com
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| Subject: | Re: Horns Redone |
Jack; what was wrong with the powder coated version?
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Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | Re: Horns Redone |
It was a higher gloss than I wanted. These are lower gloss and thinner powder coat
so I hopefully can see any cracks...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:53 AM, "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Panel coamings |
Ken,
How do you plan to apply your 4" finish tape to cover the wing gaps? Will
you do this after painting and installing your wings? I can't imaging
gluing on the finish tape with EkoBond and then sealing and painting the
wing after installing them. Just curious.
Thanks,
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Paul,
>
> I have two fuel tanks. At this point, my plan is to cover the center
> section tank with fabric. I've thought about making a removable panel
> over that tank, but am inclined against that. It isn't hard to patch
> the fabric up there, if that should ever prove necessary. And I like
> the look of fabric across the entire upper surface of the wing.
>
> In fact, my plan is to use four inch fabric tape to cover the gaps
> between the wing roots and the center section, rather than using
> strips of aluminum to cover those gaps. I figure if I ever have to
> remove the wings and trailer the plane out of a field, I have bigger
> problems to worry about than cutting along that gap and patching later
> with new fabric tape.
>
> For the nose tank, I haven't fully decided yet but am leaning toward
> plywood, though in truth I have a spare piece of aluminum, as well as
> a piece of plywood that could work there. That decision can wait
> awhile. Its way too cold currently here in Colorado to be in the
> hangar, let alone to mix epoxy, apply varnish, or handle any piece of
> metal.
>
> At the moment, I'm appreciating the vapor-free qualities of the
> Stewart covering system because I can do that in the basement while
> watching football games.
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM, nightmare <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> > Hey Ken, how about your wing tank covering. wood / aluminum door, or
> fabric over the tank as per plans? Paul
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NX114D(Mountain Piet)
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| Subject: | Re: Panel coamings |
All I can say is that EcoBond appears to adhere patches very nicely to latex
paint.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Bacon
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Panel coamings
Ken,
How do you plan to apply your 4" finish tape to cover the wing gaps? Will
you do this after painting and installing your wings? I can't imaging
gluing on the finish tape with EkoBond and then sealing and painting the
wing after installing them. Just curious.
Thanks,
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote:
Paul,
I have two fuel tanks. At this point, my plan is to cover the center
section tank with fabric. I've thought about making a removable panel
over that tank, but am inclined against that. It isn't hard to patch
the fabric up there, if that should ever prove necessary. And I like
the look of fabric across the entire upper surface of the wing.
In fact, my plan is to use four inch fabric tape to cover the gaps
between the wing roots and the center section, rather than using
strips of aluminum to cover those gaps. I figure if I ever have to
remove the wings and trailer the plane out of a field, I have bigger
problems to worry about than cutting along that gap and patching later
with new fabric tape.
For the nose tank, I haven't fully decided yet but am leaning toward
plywood, though in truth I have a spare piece of aluminum, as well as
a piece of plywood that could work there. That decision can wait
awhile. Its way too cold currently here in Colorado to be in the
hangar, let alone to mix epoxy, apply varnish, or handle any piece of
metal.
At the moment, I'm appreciating the vapor-free qualities of the
Stewart covering system because I can do that in the basement while
watching football games.
Cheers, Ken
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM, nightmare <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
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> Hey Ken, how about your wing tank covering. wood / aluminum door, or
fabric over the tank as per plans? Paul
>
> --------
> Paul Donahue
> Started 8-3-12
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Panel coamings |
Ken, great looking panels and plywood cowlings.=0A-=0AToo add to what oth
ers have said in this thread:- I used plywood for my cowlings because, I
too prefer to work with wood and like the look better.- My cowlings are a
ll painted...no fabric. In fact, I did not lay fabric over the fuselage sid
es either, I just painted right over the wood. This gave me the esthetics I
was after. Covered my center section with fabric and paint,-and the plyw
ood hatch was covered with paint only.=0A-=0A
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
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| Subject: | Re: Panel coamings |
Gary,
Are you saying you would EkoBond the wing gap to the latex paint, then
paint it all up to match?
Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to snug it up with the iron too.
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> All I can say is that EcoBond appears to adhere patches very nicely to
> latex paint.****
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> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Bacon
> *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2013 5:15 AM
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> How do you plan to apply your 4" finish tape to cover the wing gaps? Will
> you do this after painting and installing your wings? I can't imaging
> gluing on the finish tape with EkoBond and then sealing and painting the
> wing after installing them. Just curious.****
>
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>
> Thanks,****
>
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
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>
> Paul,
>
> I have two fuel tanks. At this point, my plan is to cover the center
> section tank with fabric. I've thought about making a removable panel
> over that tank, but am inclined against that. It isn't hard to patch
> the fabric up there, if that should ever prove necessary. And I like
> the look of fabric across the entire upper surface of the wing.
>
> In fact, my plan is to use four inch fabric tape to cover the gaps
> between the wing roots and the center section, rather than using
> strips of aluminum to cover those gaps. I figure if I ever have to
> remove the wings and trailer the plane out of a field, I have bigger
> problems to worry about than cutting along that gap and patching later
> with new fabric tape.
>
> For the nose tank, I haven't fully decided yet but am leaning toward
> plywood, though in truth I have a spare piece of aluminum, as well as
> a piece of plywood that could work there. That decision can wait
> awhile. Its way too cold currently here in Colorado to be in the
> hangar, let alone to mix epoxy, apply varnish, or handle any piece of
> metal.
>
> At the moment, I'm appreciating the vapor-free qualities of the
> Stewart covering system because I can do that in the basement while
> watching football games.
>
> Cheers, Ken****
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM, nightmare <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
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> > Hey Ken, how about your wing tank covering. wood / aluminum door, or
> fabric over the tank as per plans? Paul****
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| Subject: | Re: Panel coamings |
Exactly right on all points. Just be light-handed with the iron over the
latex paint, as the paint does not like the heat too much.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Bacon
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Panel coamings
Gary,
Are you saying you would EkoBond the wing gap to the latex paint, then paint
it all up to match?
Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to snug it up with the iron too.
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
All I can say is that EcoBond appears to adhere patches very nicely to latex
paint.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Bacon
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Panel coamings
Ken,
How do you plan to apply your 4" finish tape to cover the wing gaps? Will
you do this after painting and installing your wings? I can't imaging
gluing on the finish tape with EkoBond and then sealing and painting the
wing after installing them. Just curious.
Thanks,
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote:
Paul,
I have two fuel tanks. At this point, my plan is to cover the center
section tank with fabric. I've thought about making a removable panel
over that tank, but am inclined against that. It isn't hard to patch
the fabric up there, if that should ever prove necessary. And I like
the look of fabric across the entire upper surface of the wing.
In fact, my plan is to use four inch fabric tape to cover the gaps
between the wing roots and the center section, rather than using
strips of aluminum to cover those gaps. I figure if I ever have to
remove the wings and trailer the plane out of a field, I have bigger
problems to worry about than cutting along that gap and patching later
with new fabric tape.
For the nose tank, I haven't fully decided yet but am leaning toward
plywood, though in truth I have a spare piece of aluminum, as well as
a piece of plywood that could work there. That decision can wait
awhile. Its way too cold currently here in Colorado to be in the
hangar, let alone to mix epoxy, apply varnish, or handle any piece of
metal.
At the moment, I'm appreciating the vapor-free qualities of the
Stewart covering system because I can do that in the basement while
watching football games.
Cheers, Ken
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM, nightmare <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Hey Ken, how about your wing tank covering. wood / aluminum door, or
fabric over the tank as per plans? Paul
>
> --------
> Paul Donahue
> Started 8-3-12
> do not archive
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392192#392192
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| Subject: | Re: gas tank material |
5052 .050, same as Dan Helsper.
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Austin/San Marcos, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Panel coamings |
Greg, what Gary said. I've seen this done, but haven't done it
myself. What I've seen is that the tape with Ecobond adheres very
nicely over the painted surface. Just a touch with the small iron to
take out wrinkles. Looks great.
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> Exactly right on all points. Just be light-handed with the iron over the
> latex paint, as the paint does not like the heat too much.
>
>
> Gary Boothe
>
> NX308MB
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> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Bacon
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:23 AM
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>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Panel coamings
>
>
> Gary,
>
>
> Are you saying you would EkoBond the wing gap to the latex paint, then paint
> it all up to match?
>
>
> Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to snug it up with the iron too.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> All I can say is that EcoBond appears to adhere patches very nicely to latex
> paint.
>
>
> Gary Boothe
>
> NX308MB
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Bacon
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:15 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Panel coamings
>
>
> Ken,
>
>
> How do you plan to apply your 4" finish tape to cover the wing gaps? Will
> you do this after painting and installing your wings? I can't imaging
> gluing on the finish tape with EkoBond and then sealing and painting the
> wing after installing them. Just curious.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Paul,
>
> I have two fuel tanks. At this point, my plan is to cover the center
> section tank with fabric. I've thought about making a removable panel
> over that tank, but am inclined against that. It isn't hard to patch
> the fabric up there, if that should ever prove necessary. And I like
> the look of fabric across the entire upper surface of the wing.
>
> In fact, my plan is to use four inch fabric tape to cover the gaps
> between the wing roots and the center section, rather than using
> strips of aluminum to cover those gaps. I figure if I ever have to
> remove the wings and trailer the plane out of a field, I have bigger
> problems to worry about than cutting along that gap and patching later
> with new fabric tape.
>
> For the nose tank, I haven't fully decided yet but am leaning toward
> plywood, though in truth I have a spare piece of aluminum, as well as
> a piece of plywood that could work there. That decision can wait
> awhile. Its way too cold currently here in Colorado to be in the
> hangar, let alone to mix epoxy, apply varnish, or handle any piece of
> metal.
>
> At the moment, I'm appreciating the vapor-free qualities of the
> Stewart covering system because I can do that in the basement while
> watching football games.
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM, nightmare <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
>>
>
>> Hey Ken, how about your wing tank covering. wood / aluminum door, or
>> fabric over the tank as per plans? Paul
>
>>
>> --------
>> Paul Donahue
>> Started 8-3-12
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392192#392192
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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>
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>
> NX114D(Mountain Piet)
>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel coamings |
Sounds good. I may do this myself. Thanks!
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Greg, what Gary said. I've seen this done, but haven't done it
> myself. What I've seen is that the tape with Ecobond adheres very
> nicely over the painted surface. Just a touch with the small iron to
> take out wrinkles. Looks great.
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Exactly right on all points. Just be light-handed with the iron over the
> > latex paint, as the paint does not like the heat too much.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary Boothe
> >
> > NX308MB
> >
> >
> >
> > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg
> Bacon
> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:23 AM
> >
> >
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Panel coamings
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> >
> >
> > Are you saying you would EkoBond the wing gap to the latex paint, then
> paint
> > it all up to match?
> >
> >
> >
> > Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to snug it up with the iron too.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > All I can say is that EcoBond appears to adhere patches very nicely to
> latex
> > paint.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary Boothe
> >
> > NX308MB
> >
> >
> >
> > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg
> Bacon
> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:15 AM
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Panel coamings
> >
> >
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> >
> >
> > How do you plan to apply your 4" finish tape to cover the wing gaps?
> Will
> > you do this after painting and installing your wings? I can't imaging
> > gluing on the finish tape with EkoBond and then sealing and painting the
> > wing after installing them. Just curious.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > I have two fuel tanks. At this point, my plan is to cover the center
> > section tank with fabric. I've thought about making a removable panel
> > over that tank, but am inclined against that. It isn't hard to patch
> > the fabric up there, if that should ever prove necessary. And I like
> > the look of fabric across the entire upper surface of the wing.
> >
> > In fact, my plan is to use four inch fabric tape to cover the gaps
> > between the wing roots and the center section, rather than using
> > strips of aluminum to cover those gaps. I figure if I ever have to
> > remove the wings and trailer the plane out of a field, I have bigger
> > problems to worry about than cutting along that gap and patching later
> > with new fabric tape.
> >
> > For the nose tank, I haven't fully decided yet but am leaning toward
> > plywood, though in truth I have a spare piece of aluminum, as well as
> > a piece of plywood that could work there. That decision can wait
> > awhile. Its way too cold currently here in Colorado to be in the
> > hangar, let alone to mix epoxy, apply varnish, or handle any piece of
> > metal.
> >
> > At the moment, I'm appreciating the vapor-free qualities of the
> > Stewart covering system because I can do that in the basement while
> > watching football games.
> >
> > Cheers, Ken
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM, nightmare <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >> <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
> >>
> >
> >> Hey Ken, how about your wing tank covering. wood / aluminum door, or
> >> fabric over the tank as per plans? Paul
> >
> >>
> >> --------
> >> Paul Donahue
> >> Started 8-3-12
> >> do not archive
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Read this topic online here:
> >>
> >
> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392192#392192
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
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> >
> > --
> > Greg Bacon
> >
> > Prairie Home, MO
> >
> > NX114D(Mountain Piet)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Greg Bacon
> >
> > Prairie Home, MO
> >
> > NX114D(Mountain Piet)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> >
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Prairie Home, MO
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| Subject: | Re: gas tank material |
Dennis,
Here is a link to a Tony Bingelis article on building aluminum fuel tanks.
Hope it helps.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Gusset from Baltic birch |
My local wood supplier MacBeath hardwoods where I purchased my Sitka spruce had
2'x4'x1/8" baltic birch remnants for $3.00 per sheet. They are very nice looking
but only 3 ply. I am wondering if this is high enough quality for gussets
on tail feathers and fuse? Looking at Aircraft spruce they sell the Finnish birch
but being aircraft grade I am wondering if it 5 ply and of course much more
expensive. Any input is appreciated.
Brian
SLC-UT
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| Subject: | Re: Gusset from Baltic birch |
Most Baltic birch available at lumber yards (even specialty ones) is manufactured
with an interior-grade glue that will not stand up to the environmental conditions
most of our planes will encounter in normal use. Not recommended for
that reason.
Kip Gardner
On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Pilot78 wrote:
>
> My local wood supplier MacBeath hardwoods where I purchased my Sitka spruce had
2'x4'x1/8" baltic birch remnants for $3.00 per sheet. They are very nice looking
but only 3 ply. I am wondering if this is high enough quality for gussets
on tail feathers and fuse? Looking at Aircraft spruce they sell the Finnish
birch but being aircraft grade I am wondering if it 5 ply and of course much
more expensive. Any input is appreciated.
>
> Brian
> SLC-UT
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392282#392282
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I thought some might be interested. Harry Riblett Passed away in Dec. htt
p://www.legacy.com/obituaries/delawareonline/obituary.aspx?pid=161943313
Doug Dever
In beautiful Stow Ohio
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| Subject: | dzus , camlock, or southco |
which product is best for center section fuel tank access door? i'm leaning toward
Dzus, but not very familiar with any of them. Paul
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | Re: Gusset from Baltic birch |
Brian,
I bought most of my marine grade mahogany at Macbeath in Berkeley. I don't see
any
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:16 PM, "Pilot78" <wings.wheels29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> My local wood supplier MacBeath hardwoods where I purchased my Sitka spruce had
2'x4'x1/8" baltic birch remnants for $3.00 per sheet. They are very nice looking
but only 3 ply. I am wondering if this is high enough quality for gussets
on tail feathers and fuse? Looking at Aircraft spruce they sell the Finnish
birch but being aircraft grade I am wondering if it 5 ply and of course much
more expensive. Any input is appreciated.
>
> Brian
> SLC-UT
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392282#392282
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gusset from Baltic birch |
...anyhow, as I was saying before my I-phone took it upon itself to send that...
I don't see any marine grade birch on their web site, which would be the minimum
you would need. All my gussets were done with 1/8" marine grade mahogany.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:16 PM, "Pilot78" <wings.wheels29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> My local wood supplier MacBeath hardwoods where I purchased my Sitka spruce had
2'x4'x1/8" baltic birch remnants for $3.00 per sheet. They are very nice looking
but only 3 ply. I am wondering if this is high enough quality for gussets
on tail feathers and fuse? Looking at Aircraft spruce they sell the Finnish
birch but being aircraft grade I am wondering if it 5 ply and of course much
more expensive. Any input is appreciated.
>
> Brian
> SLC-UT
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392282#392282
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| Subject: | Re: Gusset from Baltic birch |
if not aircraft grade, then definitely go with marine grade. I used Okume marine
grade, even boil proof. supposedly very popular among wood boat builders. im
very happy with it. bought it locally in west palm beach, FL.
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Paul Donahue
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| Subject: | Re: Gusset from Baltic birch |
Thanks for all the input... MacBeath carries the marine grade Mahogany so I will
pick that up tomorrow and its only 15 minutes from the hangar.
Brian.
SLC-UT
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe [mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 05:52 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gusset from Baltic birch
...anyhow, as I was saying before my I-phone took it upon itself to send that...
I don't see any marine grade birch on their web site, which would be the minimum
you would need. All my gussets were done with 1/8" marine grade mahogany.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:16 PM, "Pilot78" <wings.wheels29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> My local wood supplier MacBeath hardwoods where I purchased my Sitka spruce had
2'x4'x1/8" baltic birch remnants for $3.00 per sheet. They are very nice looking
but only 3 ply. I am wondering if this is high enough quality for gussets
on tail feathers and fuse? Looking at Aircraft spruce they sell the Finnish
birch but being aircraft grade I am wondering if it 5 ply and of course much
more expensive. Any input is appreciated.
>
> Brian
> SLC-UT
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392282#392282
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| Subject: | Re: dzus , camlock, or southco |
Paul,
First off, "center section fuel tank access door"? Are you talking about a door
to access the fuel tank, or the filler cap? Not sure why you would want either.
If you need a removable cover plate, why not just fasten it with screws?
I think the fasteners you're referring to are the type usually used for things
like engine cowling panels, which require frequent removal and re-installation.
Shouldn't need to access your fuel tank that often.
Secondly, Dzus, Camlock and Southco aren't products, but rather lines of products,
encompassing thousands of different parts. Are you referring to specific
items from each of the three suppliers? Which ones? And do you have a sketch
of what you have in mind?
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: dzus , camlock, or southco |
Sorry for being unclear. the access door would be for the fuel tank/storage. Using
the Riblett 613.5 (thicker than the standard 612, and even more so than the
piet rib). center section will also be wider than standard. all this will allow
20 gallons and a very small amount of cargo space on both sides of tank. the
door would primarily be to access cargo, but figured mine as well have easy
access to the tank as well.
yes, the variety of fastener would be like the ones used for cowlings. i plan
on using the "winged" type, regardless of the brand. Couple of different versions
from each manufacturer. i dont want to have to use a screwdriver.
Thank You; Paul
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| Subject: | Re: dzus , camlock, or southco |
20 Gallons! Knock four gallons off of that and have a little more cargo
room. I have 17 gallons in mine and having been beat up in afternoon
during a two-hour stretch, I can't imagine when you would need
potentially four hours of fuel without having to get out and stretch.
Your mileage may vary.
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:43 PM, nightmare wrote:
<pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Sorry for being unclear. the access door would be for the fuel
tank/storage. Using the Riblett 613.5 (thicker than the standard 612,
and even more so than the piet rib). center section will also be wider
than standard. all this will allow 20 gallons and a very small amount of
cargo space on both sides of tank. the door would primarily be to access
cargo, but figured mine as well have easy access to the tank as well.
> yes, the variety of fastener would be like the ones used for
cowlings. i plan on using the "winged" type, regardless of the brand.
Couple of different versions from each manufacturer. i dont want to have
to use a screwdriver.
> Thank You; Paul
>
> --------
> Paul Donahue
> Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | Pietepol fuse, rib, and tailgroup wood |
Hey Gents=2C The good news....Gary is picking up all the parts=2C and sin
ce he has completed one plane=2C I am sure he will get to his second one as
well. Also=2C Carl Lekin saw my post about getting rid of what I ahve=2C
and it looks as if we will be getting together someday to work on his Piet.
He is still pluuging away at it. The internet can be a great place to find
friends=2C and thanks for the space=2C I will be bugging off. Gary is comi
ng by tomorrow eveing to pick up what I have. Talk to you all later=2C Doug
Doug/Elizabeth Blackburn
Yucaipa California
ISR Rocks www.inlandsloperebels.com
From: twinboom@msn.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietepol fuse=2C rib=2C and tailgroup wood
Hey John=2C
He called me one eveing and said if I was interested in his Piet=2C to c
ome to the EAA Compton chapter meeting. That was about four or five years a
go. I did not have the time=2C and I am sure he probably donated his projec
t to the chapter there in Compton. At any rate=2C I hope he is well. Thanks
=2C and happy flying to all of you.
Doug
Doug/Elizabeth Blackburn
Yucaipa California
ISR Rocks www.inlandsloperebels.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietepol fuse=2C rib=2C and tailgroup wood
From: amsafetyc@aol.com
I met Carl about 5 years ago when Markle and I visited his hangar=2C a real
ly nice person and a great builder. I've not heard from him since. Does
anyone know anything about him?
John
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 13=2C 2013=2C at 2:07 PM=2C DOUGLAS BLACKBURN <twinboom@msn.com> wro
te:
Hey folks=2C
I was on the list a few years ago=2C and have been unsubscribed for some
time. I was never able to really get started due to health issues my wife
has.
I am only on to let you know I need to get rid of my project. I have the
wood for the fuse=2C wing ribs=2C and tail group. It is all Spruce. I got
most all of it from Carl Levkin=2C who was=2C and still may be a member her
e. He gave me the wood for the tail group. Carl also gave me the the wood f
or the fuse for a donation to his EAA chapter=2C in Compton. He cut the woo
d up for me for the fuse=2C and cut the stringers to be laminated. He said
this would be stronger. Anyway=2C I believe I donated 75.00 bucks to the Co
mpton EAA group for the fuse wood.I bought the wood for the ribs from a mem
ber here for I think around 100.00=2C and I would like to pass this on to
someone who might have the time and where withall to use for they're projec
t. Carl was way kind to me while we were in communication=2C and I would li
ke to further his kindness to someone else=2C pay ot forward so to speak!!
I will take 100.00 for the fuse wood=2C and also have a Corvair engine I
was going to retrofit for this plane as well. The engine is all apart=2C b
ut Carl had my shaft drilled and tapped for the safety shaft needed to inst
all the prop and adapter for same. I am moving=2C and need to find a home f
or this stuff=2C hopefully someone who will use it. 100.00 bucks gets it al
l. As I said=2C I don't know if Carl is still around=2C if he is and some h
ere know him=2C give him my regards=2C he was a fine man. I wish I could ha
ve done him right by getting the Piet built=2C but reallity says it is not
to be. I also have a wing rib Jib that a Gent from Down San Diego way gave
me. I remeber his name as Gene=2C and I believe right before I unsubscribed
from this list=2C he got his airworthiness Cetificate for his Piet. I cont
acted him to see if he wanted the jib back but don't think I ever heard bac
k from him. If he is still on this list=2C the jib is his=2C if not=2C it w
ill be part of the deal here for a hundred bucks. Please take me up on this
deal=2C but only if you intend on using the material to build a Piet. I am
moving and it needs to go by the 21st of January. Thanks=2C
Doug Blackburn=2C Yucaipa California
nine oh nine - seven nine zero - zero five three zero home phone=2C call un
till 10:00 p.m.
P.S. I won't ship=2C don't have time=2C so work something out with someone
here on the West Coast if you are interested=2C it really needs to be gone
in two weeks.
Doug/Elizabeth Blackburn
Yucaipa California
ISR Rocks www.inlandsloperebels.com
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