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1. 05:28 AM - About an old and dear friend (bonesona1a)
2. 08:32 AM - Re: dzus , camlock, or southco (Doug Dever)
3. 09:57 AM - Al Schaus Propeller for Model A Ford (dwilson)
4. 02:04 PM - Re: Re: a hardware store steel rant... (Dave Millikan)
5. 03:39 PM - Re: a hardware store steel rant... (tools)
6. 04:50 PM - Re: a hardware store steel rant... (jarheadpilot82)
7. 04:58 PM - Re: a hardware store steel rant... (jarheadpilot82)
8. 06:08 PM - Re: Model A with carb heat box (taildrags)
9. 08:02 PM - NX151SM (K5YAC)
10. 08:49 PM - Cross wind component (Rod Wooller)
11. 09:56 PM - Re: Cross wind component (shad bell)
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| Subject: | About an old and dear friend |
Hi folks...
Hope you don't mind my adding a note off subject of Piets...we lost a valuable
friend to all, and a dear friend to some of us, this past week. Fred Cabanas.
http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2013/130116remembering-fred-cabanas.html?CMP=News%3AS3RM#ooid=A3c21oODpjfNA0ntEM-mdHb7CM7HsrjA
http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2013/130116remembering-fred-cabanas.html?CMP=News%3AS3RM#ooid=A3c21oODpjfNA0ntEM-mdHb7CM7HsrjA
Thanks
Davy Jones
N428DJ
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I was the Deacon in Nam....now I am the hopeful of pietenpol build
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| Subject: | Re: dzus , camlock, or southco |
Having spent most of my flying in the Canadian bush I tend to agree. Unles
s weight/performance is an issue you can never have too much fuel. Nice to
have choices. I never take off on a cross country with anything but full
tanks. I landed once with 30min of fuel left and both guages were pegged o
n empty. NOT a comfortable feeling.
Doug Dever
In beautiful Stow Ohio
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: dzus =2C camlock=2C or southco
> From: Scott.liefeld@lacity.org
> Date: Tue=2C 15 Jan 2013 07:07:31 -0800
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> I can carry 22.5 gallons. I find it nice that I have a choice to carry th
e extra gallons if needed. Sometime while making long cross countries there
is no fuel available even though there is a place to land and stretch for
awhile. Like between San Diego and Yuma. Worse yet=2C Yuma to Casa Grande.
Very long legs. It is also nice that I can fly out 1.5 hours=2C have breakf
ast and return home without refueling. You can always carry less fuel if yo
u don't need it for the flight=2C but it is nice to have the choice. I have
a 10 gallon nose tank and 12.5 in the center section.
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> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Al Schaus Propeller for Model A Ford |
Did some prop balancing with Vi Kapler this morning. Vi is looking for a Model
A Ford prop carved by Al Schaus. He wants to copy the prop with his prop carver.
You can reach Vi at 507-288-3322. He also has four sets of tail hinges.
When these are gone, they are gone. He will not be casting any more hinges.
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: a hardware store steel rant... |
Yes control line.. forgot to mention we both graduated from Purdue U.
All my fasteners are AN, plus all the wing connections are 4130
My first homebuilt was a Starduster Too which is getting in the way at
my hangar, My 2nd was a GeeBee pedal plane for my grandson
who is graduating from high school in June
I am-about to carve my own 60/32 prop
At almost 84, we've gotta have fun
Dave
--- On Sat, 1/19/13, tools <n0kkj@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: tools <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: a hardware store steel rant...
Hey Dave,
You contradicted yourself by saying "follow the plans..." in that you're gi
ving structural advice there, which calls for 1020 steel like you mentioned
, and you saw how well that went over!- :)
Don't sweat it, they get a little jumpy around here when you "don't follow
the plans", well, except how THEY didn't...- We're all selectively compli
ant.
Not many steel fuselages out there and it seems you built your own, lots of
guys here would love to know more about that, and they won't assume you're
using Lowe's hardware for the motor mounts...
Tools
PS Thanks for your service.- Did you fly control line planes with Armstro
ng?
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| Subject: | Re: a hardware store steel rant... |
Just how "in the way" is that Starduster Too? I mean, if you're having a storage
problem... Of course, not really going to believe you until I see a picture,
just sayin.
I figured you had to fly control line given the time frame and all. I'm about
to start on a George Aldrich Nobler. I'll scratch build it from the 1952 plans
so it'll be Old Time and Vintage legal. I still prefer the control line flying
over radio control.
So, the Piet and Starduster are one thing, but did you use AN hardware in the Gee
Bee? It IS a racer after all, and probably took a lot more abuse at the hands
of a grandkid imagining he's Doolittle than our little Piets will ever see!
I've got plans for a Spad (ala Rickenbacker) for my son... who just started
college. Uh, maybe I'll have it done for HIS kids!
Cheers,
Tools (old Navy tanker pilot)
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| Subject: | Re: a hardware store steel rant... |
Just a question-
What did BHP use?
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: a hardware store steel rant... |
I forgot to add-
Tools,
nice comments.
Dave,
It sounds you have decades of experience in airplane construction and know how
to make good choices. I would be happy to talk with you about your steel tube
fuselage. Either online or offline. This is a good resource for Pietenpols in
general, but. as Tools said, not too many steel tube fuselages in the group. I
have a steel tube fuselage I purchased about a year ago, and I have many questions
that you, or pictures of your Pietenpol might answer.
Let me know the easiest way to get with you. Also, thank you for your service,
but don't let Tools fool you. Not only is he an 'old tanker pilot', but he did
it in "Hoovers"! For any non-Naval Aviation types, that is the S-3. Listen to
one start up and you know why they are called "Hoovers".
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Model A with carb heat box |
By the way, and I know that the question and post have to do with the Model A,
but if anyone is interested- I have some pix of the "hot plate" modification that
I made to the standard Aeronca heat muff on my Continental, here:
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/engine/carbheat.html
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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This afternoon, Tyler an I were driving home from the gun range and we were near
the Skiatook airport in Skiatook, Oklahoma. Suddenly, a red and white Air Camper
comes climbing over the tree tops. I recognized it as my friend and fellow
EAA 10 member, Ken Gates... so we boogie over to the airport to take a few
photos. Ken gave me a little background on the airplane and I thought some of
you might be able to tell us a bit more about it or the builder... especially
you fellas from Ohio. The builder was a fellow by the name of Marvin Grout
of New Carlisle, Ohio. A/W date was 10/22/99. I don't know Marvin, but some
of you may like to know that it is still flying, and has a really nice running
Corvair. Ken has it listed for sale, but told me today that he may be having
second thoughts.
I tried to post this to the Pietenpol group on Facebook, but for some reason it
would not allow me to post once I uploaded an image... anyone have an idea why
that might be?
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
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| Subject: | Cross wind component |
My test pilot asked me what the maximum cross wind component is for a
Pietenpol.
I had no idea, can anyone help out with this?
Thanks,
Rod Wooller
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| Subject: | Re: Cross wind component |
I've done about 25-30mph, but not by choice (had to go to the proctologist
to get the seat cusion removed).- Keep it under 5-10mph for the test flyi
ng, early morning or in the evening.--OURS will stay under control if y
ou keep the speed up, but they are all a little different from one piet to
the next.- Ground angle, landing gear width, type, C/G, type of tailwheel
, and on and on.- Hope this helps.- Just be on the conservitive side un
till you really get to know the airplane.
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Shad
--- On Sat, 1/19/13, Rod Wooller <rodwooller@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Rod Wooller <rodwooller@gmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cross wind component
My test pilot asked me what the maximum cross wind component is for a Piete
npol.
I had no idea, can anyone help out with this?
Thanks,
Rod Wooller
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