---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/24/13: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:11 AM - Re: Re: Cross wind component (C N Campbell) 2. 08:10 AM - Re: Cross wind component (TriScout) 3. 08:14 AM - Brakes (Douwe Blumberg) 4. 08:52 AM - Oil temp / Water temp gauge (Pietflyer1977) 5. 09:26 AM - Re: brakes (Chris Rusch) 6. 10:58 AM - Re: Brakes (skipgadd@earthlink.net) 7. 02:55 PM - (John Kuhfahl) 8. 04:56 PM - Avionics Placement (Jack) 9. 06:16 PM - Re: Avionics Placement (Jack Phillips) 10. 06:54 PM - Re: Avionics Placement (Gene Rambo) 11. 06:59 PM - Re: Re: Cross wind component (shad bell) 12. 09:23 PM - Avionics Placement (santiago morete) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:15 AM PST US From: "C N Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cross wind component Well, I have never flown a Piet but I don't believe it would be all that different from a Cub or T-craft or any such. I have always used and taught (when I was instructing in the Navy as well as civilian) the "wing down" crosswind technique. You're really just slipping into the wind with no sudden change at the bottom just before touchdown. Basically, keep the airplane over the 'centerline' with the ailerons and the airplane lined up with the centerline with the rudder ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND. C ----- Original Message ----- From: "TriScout" Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:04 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cross wind component > > I agree w/last two posts. Spot on. I got "caught" coming back to home > airfeld w/25kts direct x-wind (sans gusts) and it gets your attention on > downwind(and then on final) when you see the crab angle required. I was > quite surprised at how well it handled troughout landing/rollout. I just > bugged it up 10 on final, de-crabbed last 10 feet, Hoovered it on the > upwind wheel, and as the downwind wheel touched..."tap".."tap" on downwind > heel brake to counter the weathervane into wind....seemed to work ok > (GN-1/A65). I was about to go try it again, but thought it best not to > press my good fortune.. > > 15 plus Knots and "gusting" ... I'd rather take the 25 Knotter w/out the > gusts. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392985#392985 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:59 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cross wind component From: "TriScout" That's a good technique as well. It's all relative I suppose. I did the bankcheck hauling in the 80's (8 -9 legs/night) in Learjets, so I got accustomed to having to avoid dragging a tip tank in severe x-winds, de-crabbing in the flare. Now flying the 747-8/-400's, as well as the Dreamlifter (LCF). Our manual states 5 deg bank limit to avoid scraping #1 or 4. So I find it much easier to basically de-crab in the flare to touchdown. I'd probably ground loop trying the sideslip the GN-1 from 200' up after all these years of doing it the "easy" way. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393004#393004 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:38 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brakes From: Douwe Blumberg Chris. First off, I am stoked to see your plane! Any chance of broadhead? Secondly, I modified helsper's brake design and I really like it. A toe actuator sticks out from the fuse walls just in front of my toes, they go thru slots in the wood to flay stock levers which lie against the outside of the ply , between ply and fabric, their ends protrude out a slot at the bottom and a cable from each brake Ron's to them. All you see in the cockpit is a two inch tube sticking in, everything else is hidden. Just like dans in concept, just moved some stuff outboard. Douwe ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:46 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oil temp / Water temp gauge From: "Pietflyer1977" Trying to take care of my instrument overhauls early and do not have my fuselage but yet, or know the location of connection on the Model A engine, but can anyone tell me how long the leads need to be to reach for the oil temp and a water temp gauge? I have a oil temp gauge with a 56" lead. Will that be long enough for a Model A engine? From the rear cockpit . Seems like the longest I can find is 60" if I was to buy another one. Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393008#393008 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:58 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: brakes From: "Chris Rusch" Hi Douwe, Brodhead is in my sights!! just not sure if i can get the 40 hrs off before then. I am optimistically shooting for May to be test flying. I am finishing up the fusalage stuff before i cover it, everything else is done and painted. Its exciting putting stuff together for the FINAL time, using the right hardware and putting in the cotter keys... Can you take some pictures of your brake set up? Chris -------- NX321LR Fully Assembled Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted. Wings covered and primed, one painted Mitsubishi Powered Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393010#393010 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:58:15 AM PST US From: "skipgadd@earthlink.net" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brakes Douwe, How far does your toe actuator stick out form the fuse wall? And how far above and (I assume) in front of neutral rudder bar? Skip > [Original Message] > From: Douwe Blumberg > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: 1/24/2013 11:17:14 AM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brakes > > > Chris. First off, I am stoked to see your plane! Any chance of broadhead? Secondly, I modified helsper's brake design and I really like it. A toe actuator sticks out from the fuse walls just in front of my toes, they go thru slots in the wood to flay stock levers which lie against the outside of the ply , between ply and fabric, their ends protrude out a slot at the bottom and a cable from each brake Ron's to them. All you see in the cockpit is a two inch tube sticking in, everything else is hidden. Just like dans in concept, just moved some stuff outboard. > > Douwe > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:55:59 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: From: John Kuhfahl I might have a nice "piet" for sale--just sayin'--cheap--too many projects... -- John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret), President, KUHLCOUPER LLC ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:00 PM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Avionics Placement Good evening all, My transponder is mounted in the center section. Is there any reason to NOT locate the encoder close by? Thanks! Jack Textor Des Moines, IA ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:12 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Avionics Placement No reason at all, Jack. That's what I did. I also put the transponder antenna inside the wing, just outboard of the centersection mounted on a 6" diameter aluminum groundplane. Works just fine. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:55 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Avionics Placement Good evening all, My transponder is mounted in the center section. Is there any reason to NOT locate the encoder close by? Thanks! <<...>> <<...>> Jack Textor Des Moines, IA ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:54:01 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Avionics Placement From: Gene Rambo Bernard didn't??? Gene On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:55 PM, "Jack" wrote: > Good evening all, > > My transponder is mounted in the center section. Is there any reason to NO T locate the encoder close by? > > Thanks! > > <<...>> <<...>> > > Jack Textor > > Des Moines, IA > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:59:53 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cross wind component Triscout, Would that have been AIRNET, that you flew for?- I work with a bunch of guys who worked there for many years in Columbus Ohio. - Shad do not archive --- On Thu, 1/24/13, TriScout wrote: From: TriScout Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cross wind component That's a good technique as well. It's all relative I suppose. I did the ban kcheck hauling in the 80's (8 -9 legs/night) in Learjets, so I got accustom ed to having to avoid dragging a tip tank in severe x-winds, de-crabbing in the flare. Now flying the 747-8/-400's, as well as the Dreamlifter (LCF). Our manual states 5 deg bank limit to avoid scraping #1 or 4. So I find it much easier to basically de-crab in the flare to touchdown. I'd probably gr ound loop trying the sideslip the GN-1 from 200' up after all these years o f doing it the "easy" way. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393004#393004 le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:23:31 PM PST US From: santiago morete Subject: Pietenpol-List: Avionics Placement Hi Jack, do you have enough room for your aileron balance cable?=0ABeautifu l work=0A=0ASantiago ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.