---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/25/13: 29 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:46 AM - Re: Avionics Placement (Jack) 2. 03:49 AM - Re: Avionics Placement (Jack) 3. 04:40 AM - Re: Avionics Placement (Jack Phillips) 4. 05:33 AM - Re: How do we increase safety? (jarheadpilot82) 5. 08:29 AM - Re: Avionics Placement (Robert Gow) 6. 09:10 AM - TRANSPONDER MOUNT (TGSTONE236@aol.com) 7. 09:51 AM - Re: TRANSPONDER MOUNT (TOM STINEMETZE) 8. 09:56 AM - Re: TRANSPONDER MOUNT (Ken Bickers) 9. 10:45 AM - Re: How do we increase safety? (Blue Sky) 10. 11:57 AM - Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett airfoil (Barnwell Regional Airport) 11. 12:30 PM - Re: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett airfoi (AircamperN11MS) 12. 12:35 PM - Re: No Title (taildrags) 13. 12:48 PM - Re: TRANSPONDER MOUNT (TGSTONE236@aol.com) 14. 12:54 PM - Re: TRANSPONDER MOUNT (Gene Rambo) 15. 12:57 PM - Re: TRANSPONDER MOUNT (Ken Bickers) 16. 01:00 PM - Re: TRANSPONDER MOUNT (TOM STINEMETZE) 17. 01:10 PM - TRANSPONDER (Gerry Holland) 18. 01:11 PM - Re: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett airfoil (Jack) 19. 01:30 PM - TRANSPONDER (TGSTONE236@aol.com) 20. 02:04 PM - a low spot in Tom's fuel line tubing (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]) 21. 02:29 PM - Re: a low spot in Tom's fuel line tubing (TOM STINEMETZE) 22. 02:35 PM - yes-- -Ted Stone's fuel tank (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]) 23. 02:40 PM - FUEL TANK (TGSTONE236@aol.com) 24. 02:57 PM - Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett airfoil (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]) 25. 03:12 PM - Re: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett airfoil (Jim Boyer) 26. 04:28 PM - Re: Re: No Title (John Kuhfahl) 27. 06:18 PM - CENTER SECTION (TGSTONE236@aol.com) 28. 07:42 PM - Re: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett airfoi (Bill Church) 29. 09:52 PM - Re: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett airfoi (Mark Roberts) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:46:15 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Avionics Placement From: Jack Very good point! Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:23 PM, santiago morete w rote: > Hi Jack, do you have enough room for your aileron balance cable? > Beautiful work > > Santiago > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Avionics Placement From: Jack Thanks Jack, did you mount your antenna upside down? Also it was pointed out by Santiago in a separate email to keep the spar clear for the aileron bala nce cable... Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:15 PM, "Jack Phillips" wrote: > No reason at all, Jack. That=99s what I did. I also put the transp onder antenna inside the wing, just outboard of the centersection mounted on a 6=9D diameter aluminum groundplane. Works just fine. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:55 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Avionics Placement > > Good evening all, > > My transponder is mounted in the center section. Is there any reason to NO T locate the encoder close by? > > Thanks! > > <<...>> <<...>> > > Jack Textor > > Des Moines, IA > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:20 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Avionics Placement Hi Jack, If by upside down you mean with the antenna below the groundplane, the answer is yes. Here is a poor quality picture showing the antenna: It seems to work well enough. The few times I've flown into Class C (Raleigh, Roanoke) and the one time in Class B (Dulles), ATC has never commented on getting a poor signal. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 6:49 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Avionics Placement Thanks Jack, did you mount your antenna upside down? Also it was pointed out by Santiago in a separate email to keep the spar clear for the aileron balance cable... Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:15 PM, "Jack Phillips" wrote: No reason at all, Jack. That's what I did. I also put the transponder antenna inside the wing, just outboard of the centersection mounted on a 6" diameter aluminum groundplane. Works just fine. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:55 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Avionics Placement Good evening all, My transponder is mounted in the center section. Is there any reason to NOT locate the encoder close by? Thanks! <<...>> <<...>> Jack Textor Des Moines, IA ================================== >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ================================== cs.com ================================== matronics.com/contribution ================================== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:01 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How do we increase safety? From: "jarheadpilot82" Bob, I have been out flying and had not had a chance to respond to your post until now. It was a great article and thanks for doing the leg work of researching the records. You have done all of us a real service. The NTSB may do things differently with the record keeping of experimental aircraft, but it is hard to argue with a report of fuel shutoff valves in an unreachable place, or passengers stepping on the rudder. I think all of your bullet points are reasonable, and should be considered by all of us. One bullet point I might add is this - when planning your build, always plan for the worst. Had the guy that put the fuel shutoff in the cockpit thought that way, he would have made sure he had access at all times to the valve, not just at start up. In my build, how does that apply? Routing of fuel lines and the construction of the fuel tank are big concerns for me. Making sure that if I have an off field landing, or the gear collapses, the fuel lines are stout enough to take the forces and making sure my tank and fuel system are not affected by the deteriorating effects of ethanol. No, I do not plan to use ethanol fuel in my airplane, but what if it is inadvertently introduced? I am planning for the worst. Just one example. Again, nice job, Bob. P.S. Are there any areas of construction that weasel oil is beneficial? How about weasel varnish? [Laughing] -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393027#393027 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:29:11 AM PST US From: "Robert Gow" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Avionics Placement Just be careful to insure the static port is routed somewhere where the pressure is subject to local affects. Vented to the cockpit is best I imagine. From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: January 24, 2013 7:55 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Avionics Placement Good evening all, My transponder is mounted in the center section. Is there any reason to NOT locate the encoder close by? Thanks! <<...>> <<...>> Jack Textor Des Moines, IA ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:57 AM PST US From: TGSTONE236@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: TRANSPONDER MOUNT EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THINGS. MY TRANSPONDER MOUNTING. I HAVE AN ALUMINUM COVER OVER MY FUEL TANK AND THE KT76 ANTENNA IS MOUNTED TO IT TED STONE ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:07 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TRANSPONDER MOUNT I hate to mention this Ted, but unless you are dyslexic in the vertical dimension, you are going to have problems reading the dials on that thing. 8^] Stinemetze do not archive >>> 1/25/2013 11:10 AM >>> EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THINGS. MY TRANSPONDER MOUNTING. I HAVE AN ALUMINUM COVER OVER MY FUEL TANK AND THE KT76 ANTENNA IS MOUNTED TO IT TED STONE ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:12 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TRANSPONDER MOUNT From: Ken Bickers should be fine if he's flying inverted On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:50 AM, TOM STINEMETZE wrote: > > I hate to mention this Ted, but unless you are dyslexic in the vertical dimension, you are going to have problems reading the dials on that thing. 8^] > > Stinemetze > do not archive > >>>> 1/25/2013 11:10 AM >>> > > EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THINGS. MY TRANSPONDER MOUNTING. I HAVE AN ALUMINUM COVER OVER MY FUEL TANK AND THE KT76 ANTENNA IS MOUNTED TO IT > > > TED STONE > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:37 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How do we increase safety? From: "Blue Sky" My plan for the "worst case" is to tape a Bic lighter to the instrument panel in case the cockpit is soaked in fuel but hasn't ignited. Lyle Do not archive -------- My passion for the landscape has lead me to the sky. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393039#393039 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:57:09 AM PST US From: "Barnwell Regional Airport" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett airfoil Fellow Pietenpoler's, For some time, Don Harper and I had planned to write up the results of a "head to head" test comparing the Pietenpol airfoil to the Riblett airfoil. To the best of our knowledge, no one else has conducted the same type testing. The write up is self explanatory as to our methods. Remember, testing is ongoing and will continue. The various numbers you see now very likely will change as we do further testing. Updated results will be posted when we have something worthwhile to add.. Our intend, is to share the information with the Piet community, not to start an argument. thank you, P. F. Beck Don Harper Barnwell, S. C. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:30:59 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett airfoi From: "AircamperN11MS" Very cool stuff. Just the way I would do it. Keep up the good work and have fun doing it. Great info. Thank you, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393044#393044 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:35:52 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: No Title From: "taildrags" John: you're kidding, right? You're not going to sell the Piet that you're just about ready to fly??!! -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393045#393045 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:48:18 PM PST US From: TGSTONE236@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TRANSPONDER MOUNT THE CENTER SECTION IS ON SAW HORSES UP SIDE DOWN AS YOU CAN SEE THE CABINE ATTACH BRACKETS THERE ALSO. ON THE TRANSPONDERS THE CONTROL KNOB IS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY YOU WILL REALIZE THAT I AM CORRECT. NO I WON'T ANY TROUBLE READING THE UNIT. I'LL POST PIC TURES LATER SHOWING RIGHT SIDE UP. TED In a message dated 1/25/2013 12:51:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, TOMS@mcpcity.com writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "TOM STINEMETZE" I hate to mention this Ted, but unless you are dyslexic in the vertical dimension, you are going to have problems reading the dials on that thing. 8^] Stinemetze do not archive >>> 1/25/2013 11:10 AM >>> EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THINGS. MY TRANSPONDER MOUNTING. I HAVE AN ALUMINUM COVER OVER MY FUEL TANK AND THE KT76 ANTENNA IS MOUNTED TO IT TED STONE ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:54:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TRANSPONDER MOUNT From: Gene Rambo Lighten up, Francis...he was kidding! Gene On Jan 25, 2013, at 3:48 PM, TGSTONE236@aol.com wrote: > THE CENTER SECTION IS ON SAW HORSES UP SIDE DOWN AS YOU CAN SEE THE CABINE ATTACH BRACKETS THERE ALSO. ON THE TRANSPONDERS THE CONTROL KNOB IS ON THE L EFT HAND SIDE.IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY YOU WILL REALIZE THAT I AM CORRECT. > > NO I WON'T ANY TROUBLE READING THE UNIT. I'LL POST PIC TURES LATER SHOWING RIGHT SIDE UP. > > TED > > In a message dated 1/25/2013 12:51:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, TOMS@mcp city.com writes: > > I hate to mention this Ted, but unless you are dyslexic in the vertical di mension, you are going to have problems reading the dials on that thing. 8^ ] > > Stinemetze > do not archive > > >>> 1/25/2013 11:10 AM >>> > > EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THINGS. MY TRANSPONDER MOUNTING. I H AVE AN ALUMINUM COVER OVER MY FUEL TANK AND THE KT76 ANTENNA IS MOUNTED TO I T > > > TED se the ies ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Co ntribution Web Site p; > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:57:51 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TRANSPONDER MOUNT From: Ken Bickers Ted, put the caplock down and step away from the keyboard. Good natured ribbing isn't just for wings. Its part of what makes this list fun. Insert smiley face here. Ken On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 1:48 PM, wrote: > THE CENTER SECTION IS ON SAW HORSES UP SIDE DOWN AS YOU CAN SEE THE CABINE > ATTACH BRACKETS THERE ALSO. ON THE TRANSPONDERS THE CONTROL KNOB IS ON THE > LEFT HAND SIDE.IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY YOU WILL REALIZE THAT I AM CORRECT. > > NO I WON'T ANY TROUBLE READING THE UNIT. I'LL POST PIC TURES LATER SHOWING > RIGHT SIDE UP. > > TED > > In a message dated 1/25/2013 12:51:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > TOMS@mcpcity.com writes: > > > I hate to mention this Ted, but unless you are dyslexic in the vertical > dimension, you are going to have problems reading the dials on that thing. > 8^] > > Stinemetze > do not archive > >>>> 1/25/2013 11:10 AM >>> > > EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THINGS. MY TRANSPONDER MOUNTING. I > HAVE AN ALUMINUM COVER OVER MY FUEL TANK AND THE KT76 ANTENNA IS MOUNTED TO > IT > > > TED se the ies ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List > Contribution Web Site p; > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:00:23 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TRANSPONDER MOUNT Ted: You are right, of course - the transponder is upside down which makes it right side up. But where is the fun in that? I am curious, though, if you were able to pick up a used transponder and encoder for a not too ridiculous price? I have followed a few on eBay and wondered if I was going to have to hock my motorcycle or my wife to purchase one. Stinemetze N328X >>> 1/25/2013 2:48 PM >>> THE CENTER SECTION IS ON SAW HORSES UP SIDE DOWN AS YOU CAN SEE THE CABINE ATTACH BRACKETS THERE ALSO. ON THE TRANSPONDERS THE CONTROL KNOB IS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY YOU WILL REALIZE THAT I AM CORRECT. NO I WON'T ANY TROUBLE READING THE UNIT. I'LL POST PIC TURES LATER SHOWING RIGHT SIDE UP. TED ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:10:24 PM PST US From: Gerry Holland Subject: Pietenpol-List: TRANSPONDER Tom A really neat Unit is from TRIG. The encoder is built in, it's low current drainage, small and lightweight. It's also Mode S. Take a look. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/trigtt21.php?clickkey=9973 Regards Gerry ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:11:53 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett airfoil From: Jack Beautiful ships! Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Jan 25, 2013, at 1:56 PM, "Barnwell Regional Airport" wrote: > Fellow Pietenpoler's, > > For some time, Don Harper and I had planned to write up the results of a " head to head" test comparing the Pietenpol airfoil to the Riblett airfoil. T o the best of our knowledge, no one else has conducted the same type testing . > > The write up is self explanatory as to our methods. > > Remember, testing is ongoing and will continue. The various numbers you s ee now very likely will change as we do further testing. Updated results wi ll be posted when we have something worthwhile to add.. > > Our intend, is to share the information with the Piet community, not to st art an argument. > > thank you, > > P. F. Beck > Don Harper > Barnwell, S. C. > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:30:27 PM PST US From: TGSTONE236@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: TRANSPONDER KEN, THE REASON I LEAVE THE CAP LOCK DOWN IS I HUNT AHD PECK TYPING MAKING IT EASIER FOR ME SOME OF US OLD(75) FOLKS NEVER TOOK TYPING OR KEYBOARD IF THAT IS POLITICALLY CORRECT. TOM, I HAD THIS KT76 FOR YEARS IN MY BEECH A-23.AN A&P BUDDY AND I WENT THROUGH MY PLANE YEARS AGO FROM A TO Z. THE KT 76 WOULD NOT TRANSMIT. I ORDERED A GARMIN 320 FOR IT.WHEN STARTED TO CONVERT WE FOUND THE ANTENNA UNPLUGED. NOT WANTING THE WIFE TO KNOW, WE INSTALLED THE NEW UNIT AND KEPT QUIET ABOUT IT.THAT IS MY REASON FOR THE KT 76.IT IS BEST SOMETIMES WHAQT GOES ON IN THE HANGER STAYS IN THE HANGER. TED BUILDING CORVAIR POWERED WITH DAN'S 5TH BEARING ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:04:08 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: a low spot in Tom's fuel line tubing Tom, Great progress you're making and sorry you live in an area where you need a transponder but looks like you've done a nice installation. On another note it appears you've built a low spot into your tubing coming out of your fuel line. From what I remember in the Tony Bingelis books, fuel lines should all angle downhill (like gutt ers) until they hit the gascolator at the low point and then you can route the line up to the carb. Glad you are on the list and even better that at 75 year old guy is using e -mail. Way to go. Mike C. Numquam Volavit in Classe ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:29:29 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: a low spot in Tom's fuel line tubing Mike: I believe the fuel tank you are referring to belongs to Ted Stone. Mine is currently sitting up there without any valves or hoses attached. I am still planning how they will be routed down to the header tank which one of my sons is building for me. As for the transponder, I could probably fly for a long time and never need one here in Kansas. However, I have plans to one day fly out to the Mojave desert area past or through a lot of MOA's and it would be nice to have flight following working for me. I type for a living (which explains why I have back problems.) I have no problem with folks willing to use them 'dang new fangled 'puters. Even if they have to type all caps. I did not take it as shouting as it would be interpreted in the texting world. By the way, Mike. What is the meaning of: Numquam Volayit in Classe? Stinemetze N328X do not archive >>> "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" 1/25/2013 4:03 PM >>> Tom, Great progress youre making and sorry you live in an area where you need a transponder but looks like youve done a nice installation. On another note it appears youve built a low spot into your tubing coming out of your fuel line. From what I remember in the Tony Bingelis books, fuel lines should all angle downhill (like gutters) until they hit the gascolator at the low point and then you can route the line up to the carb. Glad you are on the list and even better that at 75 year old guy is using e-mail. Way to go. Mike C. Numquam Volavit in Classe ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:35:52 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: yes-- -Ted Stone's fuel tank Right on that one Tom S.----- I meant that note to be about Ted Stone's fuel tank. Good catch. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 02:40:33 PM PST US From: TGSTONE236@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: FUEL TANK THANKS FOR THE APPROVAL GUYS. I ALSO DON'T MIND CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, THAT ALWAYS GIVES ME A CHANCE TO MAKE IT RIGHT. TED STONE ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 02:57:33 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett airfoil UC5GLiwNCg0KSXQgc291bmRzIHRvIG1lIGFzIGlmIHlvdeKAmXJlIHRyeWluZyB0byBzdGFydCBh biBhcmd1bWVudOKApi4gICAoS0lERElORyEhISkNCg0KV29uZGVyZnVsIHdyaXRlIHVwIGFuZCB0 aGFuayB5b3UgZm9yIHNoYXJpbmcgd2hhdCB5b3XigJl2ZSBmb3VuZCB3aXRoIHlvdSBhbmQgeW91 ciBmcmllbmRzIGJlYXV0aWZ1bA0KYWlycGxhbmVzLiAgTG9vayBmb3J3YXJkIHRvIGhlYXJpbmcg YWJvdXQgbW9yZSByZXN1bHRzIGFzIHlvdSBvYnRhaW4gdGhlbS4gICBTb3VuZHMgbGlrZSBhIEJy b2RoZWFkDQpGb3J1bSBpbiB0aGUgbWFraW5nLiAgIE5pY2Ugd29yayBhbmQgZWZmb3J0Lg0KDQpN aWtlIEMuDQoNCg0KDQo9M0Q9M0Q9M0Q9M0Q9M0QNCg0KDQo ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 03:12:05 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett airfoil HI P.F. Thanks for the information; it was interesting and will be looking for more in the future. Jim B. ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 04:28:49 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: No Title From: John Kuhfahl Life got in the way On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:35 PM, taildrags wrote: > > John: you're kidding, right? You're not going to sell the Piet that > you're just about ready to fly??!! > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393045#393045 > > -- John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret), President, KUHLCOUPER LLC ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:18:46 PM PST US From: TGSTONE236@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: CENTER SECTION CENTER SECTION RIGHT SIDE UP SHOWING KT76 IN CORRECT POSITION CENTER SECTION SHOWING TANK COVER WITH TRANSPONDER ANTENNA MOUNTED TED STONE ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:47 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett airfoi From: "Bill Church" PF and Don, Excellent work. Thanks for sharing. This is exactly the type of comparison that has been needed to provide some clear, unbiased information. The fact that the two aircraft are so similar is key. The only thing that I can see skewing the results is that the Riblett wing appears to be red. :) Looking forward to seeing the next phase of results, as Don's plane gets "broken in". Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393074#393074 ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 09:52:33 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett airfoi From: "Mark Roberts" And we all know that red makes cars and planes fly faster. 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