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1. 12:18 AM - Re: Cross wind component (TriScout)
2. 02:42 AM - Re: Re: chicken and ribs (Gene Rambo)
3. 05:14 AM - Re: Re: chicken and ribs (Jack Phillips)
4. 05:31 AM - fuel tank filler neck with flapper (nightmare)
5. 05:32 AM - Re: fuel tank filler neck with flapper (nightmare)
6. 05:53 AM - Re: vortex generators (jarheadpilot82)
7. 06:07 AM - Re: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett airfoil (helspersew@aol.com)
8. 06:15 AM - Re: Cross wind component (TriScout)
9. 06:25 AM - Re: Re: Cross wind component (Gary Boothe)
10. 06:42 AM - Location to buy vortex generators Re. Comparrison test Pietenpol-Riblett airfoils (Barnwell Regional Airport)
11. 06:52 AM - Re: vortex generators (nightmare)
12. 08:11 AM - Re: Re: Re: chicken and ribs and words and I did something cool. (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
13. 08:11 AM - Neat thing (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
14. 08:26 AM - Re: Neat thing ()
15. 08:44 AM - Re: Neat thing (Jerry Dotson)
16. 07:49 PM - OT well done water bomber video (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
17. 09:02 PM - Re: vortex generators (taildrags)
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| Subject: | Re: Cross wind component |
sorry for the late reply(in Germany)....
Yes.. "Airnut" ....in my time it was under the old name, but I understand it as
Airnet now.
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| Subject: | Re: chicken and ribs |
Since you corrected B Church, I have to point out "irregardless"! is not a word.
It is "regardless"
Gene
On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:30 PM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
wrote:
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> Irregardless Bill, I will Endeavor to persevere in pushing my spelling. I will
pursue it ;until it has reached leveliddity with the other word in use.
>
> One of my favorite terms in aviation is "Cheap, fast, or efficient! pick two!"
That points to the "envelope" and the only way to truly expand the envelope
is to put money in it.
>
> Blue "Simplified" Skies,
> Steve D
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
> Date: Saturday, January 26, 2013 21:46
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribs
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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>> The quote that I've seen is "Simplicate and add lightness", and is attributed
to William Stout, designer of the Ford Trimotor.
>>
>>> From Wikipedia (so it must be true :) ):
>>
>> Stout is remembered for his Farberistic engineering credo, "Simplicate and add
more lightness." This would later become best known as the adopted
>> maxim of Colin Chapman of Lotus Cars. It actually originated with
>> Stout's designer Gordon Hooton.
>>
>> In the spirit of the quote, "simplicate" makes more sense than
>> "simplificate", if for no reason other than it has one syllable less.
>>
>> Bill C.
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393107#393107
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| Subject: | Re: chicken and ribs |
Actually I've always preferred "Disirregardless" it just sort of sums it
up.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribs
Since you corrected B Church, I have to point out "irregardless"! is not a
word. It is "regardless"
Gene
On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:30 PM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB"
<steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote:
<steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
>
> Irregardless Bill, I will Endeavor to persevere in pushing my spelling. I
will pursue it ;until it has reached leveliddity with the other word in use.
>
> One of my favorite terms in aviation is "Cheap, fast, or efficient! pick
two!" That points to the "envelope" and the only way to truly expand the
envelope is to put money in it.
>
> Blue "Simplified" Skies,
> Steve D
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
> Date: Saturday, January 26, 2013 21:46
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribs
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>
>>
>> The quote that I've seen is "Simplicate and add lightness", and is
attributed to William Stout, designer of the Ford Trimotor.
>>
>>> From Wikipedia (so it must be true :) ):
>>
>> Stout is remembered for his Farberistic engineering credo, "Simplicate
and add more lightness." This would later become best known as the adopted
>> maxim of Colin Chapman of Lotus Cars. It actually originated with
>> Stout's designer Gordon Hooton.
>>
>> In the spirit of the quote, "simplicate" makes more sense than
>> "simplificate", if for no reason other than it has one syllable less.
>>
>> Bill C.
>>
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>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393107#393107
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| Subject: | fuel tank filler neck with flapper |
Does anyone have experience with the bolt on filler valves with the flapper ( prevent
fuel coming out of top after a roll over)? used in race cars.
was thinking it would be a great safety measure , but maybe they should just
be kept in the race car industry? my main concern was weather the flapper would
prevent the tank from being pressurized sufficiently with that little tube
on the gas cap. Paul
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | Re: fuel tank filler neck with flapper |
meant to type " filler neck" .
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | Re: vortex generators |
Paul,
No Link. Can you repost, please? Thanks.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett |
airfoil
Otherwise it looks like, once again, that old Pietenpol fellow really knew
what he was doing when he designed this airplane.
Was never drawn to the siren's song of changing the airfoil shape on the Pi
et. Especially because all the so-called advantages were strictly theoretic
al (except for one man's anecdotal experience). After all, I was building a
PIETENPOL (caps intended). Why do we always try to make it "a little bette
r"? (I myself am guilty of this, at a very low level of course). This is su
ch a major change in my opinion. The bad thing about using the Riblett, is
that when all is said and done there will always and forever be that naggin
g voice in the back of your mind that wants to know if it really would have
been "better"..... left the way it was :O). There are some changes to the
design that are incorporated by individuals that have practical reasons. A
three-piece wing is easier to transport and fit into a shop......4130 is mo
re readily available......wing struts of the original type cannot be obtain
ed.....seat belts will keep you from dying. But changing the basic airfoil
shape seems maybe, one step too many. If the Riblett is OK, then why not a
J-3 wing? Why not landing gear from a Cub? And that may lead to the dreaded
............GN-1!!!!!!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN (dodging flames)
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| Subject: | Re: Cross wind component |
shad...I heard a lot of them later went to fluxjet...feel free to Prime Minister
me if you want to toss a few names around. I know the ones that were there in
80's/early 90's...
Ler
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| Subject: | Re: Cross wind component |
Since the string was deleted, I have absolutely no clue what this comment is
about...
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TriScout
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:15 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cross wind component
shad...I heard a lot of them later went to fluxjet...feel free to Prime
Minister me if you want to toss a few names around. I know the ones that
were there in 80's/early 90's...
Ler
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| Subject: | Location to buy vortex generators Re. Comparrison test |
Pietenpol-Riblett airfoils
Fellow Pietenpol fans,
A number of you have asked about where to find vortex generators.
I bought the vortex generators on my Piet from www.landshorter.com out
in Idaho. Found them on the internet. Price was $100 eight years ago.
Very easy to install.
I'm not promoting them one way or another . You decide if they are right
for you.
Testing is and will continue on Don's plane as weather allows.We worked
on correcting the erratic airspeed readings yesterday afternoon. Getting
better.
We will not post any more results until we have some refined numbers to
share. Remember, our intent is to share information so that you can make
an informed choice as to which airfoil suits your needs.
Thanks and keep the discussion going.
P. F. Beck
Barnwell, S. C.
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| Subject: | Re: vortex generators |
here ya go;
http://www.stolspeed.com/
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | Re: chicken and ribs and words and I did something |
cool.
I use this definition of regard:
to have or show respect or concern for.
to think highly of; esteem.
to take into account; consider.
So Regardless means not to take into account.
Irregardless means to not not take in to account Therefor it means regard.
So Disirregardless means to not take into account. I like it! it adds meaning and
depth
Really I would like y'all to please stop helping me not help you!
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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OT Yesterday I did one of the neatest things I have ever done. I took a wounded
warrior for a flight in my Vtail. Ben lost both legs and his right arm to an
IED. He has a great attitude. He rolled his chair up to the rear of my wing. Drug
himself onto the wing. I had to get in first and he used a seat pad to get
over the door frame and into the right seat. Not one complaint, just "how do
I do this?"
Good takeoff and flew out away from San Antonio. I explained Pull go up, push go
down, turn right go right and turn left, go left. I asked it he understood and
when Ben said yes, I surprised him by Throwing him the yoke (the Bonanza has
a single control that will "throw over" from left to right seat. He looked surprised
but was not reluctant to take the controls. I had him fly for about 25
min and then we returned to base. He loved it.
Next week, weather permitting, John Kuhfahl will give him a ride in his Ercoupe
and I will give his wife a ride in my plane. I mentioned him getting his Sport
pilot ticket and told him "if you are healthy enough to drive you can fly."
One of his next steps is to get prosthetics and they will modify his Ford F150
so that he can drive it. He currently drives a Polaris Razor that is modified
with a "suicide knob" and an adapter so that his stump can work the throttle
and brakes.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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GOOD ON YOU MAJ Steve 73s w8zrz
-----Original Message-----
From: Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:11 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Neat thing
<steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
OT Yesterday I did one of the neatest things I have ever done. I took a
wounded warrior for a flight in my Vtail. Ben lost both legs and his right
arm to an IED. He has a great attitude. He rolled his chair up to the rear
of my wing. Drug himself onto the wing. I had to get in first and he used a
seat pad to get over the door frame and into the right seat. Not one
complaint, just "how do I do this?"
Good takeoff and flew out away from San Antonio. I explained Pull go up,
push go down, turn right go right and turn left, go left. I asked it he
understood and when Ben said yes, I surprised him by Throwing him the yoke
(the Bonanza has a single control that will "throw over" from left to right
seat. He looked surprised but was not reluctant to take the controls. I had
him fly for about 25 min and then we returned to base. He loved it.
Next week, weather permitting, John Kuhfahl will give him a ride in his
Ercoupe and I will give his wife a ride in my plane. I mentioned him
getting his Sport pilot ticket and told him "if you are healthy enough to
drive you can fly." One of his next steps is to get prosthetics and they
will modify his Ford F150 so that he can drive it. He currently drives a
Polaris Razor that is modified with a "suicide knob" and an adapter so that
his stump can work the throttle and brakes.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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That is just about the greatest story ever. I applaud him and you.
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Jerry Dotson
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | OT well done water bomber video |
http://player.vimeo.com/video/48642618
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| Subject: | Re: vortex generators |
I have a set of VGs from Landshorter (http://www.landshorter.com/index.html)
The price is very good, the VGs come with detailed instructions, and the parts
are very well made (molded).
I have not installed or flown them on Scout yet, but now that I think about it,
with the wings sitting on tables at the moment, it may be just the right time
to do it! I've already painted them yellow to match the wing and tail surfaces,
so all I have to do is lay out the spacing and fasten them in place. Hmmm...
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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