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1. 03:25 AM - Engine Mount (Jack)
2. 05:08 AM - Re: Engine Mount (tkreiner)
3. 05:11 AM - Re: Engine Mount (John Franklin)
4. 05:27 AM - Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight article and Dick N's Piet on (AircamperN11MS)
5. 05:30 AM - Re: Re: Engine Mount (Jack)
6. 05:38 AM - Re: Engine Mount (Jack)
7. 05:45 AM - Re: Re: Engine Mount (Jack)
8. 06:12 AM - Re: Engine Mount (tkreiner)
9. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight article and Dick N's Piet on (Windstream Mail)
10. 06:57 AM - EAA/AOPA (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
11. 07:36 AM - Re: Engine Mount (JerryGrogan)
12. 07:50 AM - Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight article and Dick N's Piet on (Baldeagle)
13. 07:55 AM - Re: EAA/AOPA (Baldeagle)
14. 08:24 AM - EAA membership mailings (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
15. 08:41 AM - Re: Engine Mount (Ben Charvet)
16. 09:31 AM - Re: Engine Mount (Jack)
17. 09:32 AM - Re: Engine Mount (Jack)
18. 09:38 AM - Re: Pitot Tube Bend (Jack)
19. 09:51 AM - Re: Engine Mount (C N Campbell)
20. 10:04 AM - Re: Engine Mount (John Franklin)
21. 10:17 AM - Re: EAA/AOPA (Dick N)
22. 10:30 AM - Re: Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight article and Dick N's Piet on (helspersew@aol.com)
23. 10:31 AM - Re: Pitot Tube Bend (Michael Perez)
24. 10:44 AM - Re: EAA membership mailings (Barry Davis)
25. 11:04 AM - EAA Lifetime Membership costs $995 (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
26. 11:52 AM - Re: Pitot Tube Bend (Gary Boothe)
27. 11:55 AM - Re: Engine Mount (Gary Boothe)
28. 12:05 PM - Re: Pitot Tube Bend (Ken Bickers)
29. 12:17 PM - Re: Pitot Tube Bend (Gary Boothe)
30. 12:20 PM - Re: Pitot Tube Bend (Kip and Beth Gardner)
31. 12:22 PM - Re: Pitot Tube Bend (Gary Boothe)
32. 12:53 PM - Re: Engine Mount (dwilson)
33. 01:31 PM - Re: Engine Mount (C N Campbell)
34. 01:38 PM - Re: Engine Mount (C N Campbell)
35. 01:48 PM - Re: Pitot Tube Bend (C N Campbell)
36. 01:50 PM - Re: Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight article and Dick N's Piet on (C N Campbell)
37. 01:52 PM - Re: EAA membership mailings (C N Campbell)
38. 01:58 PM - Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight article and Dick N's Piet on (Jerry Dotson)
39. 01:59 PM - Re: Engine Mount (Gary Boothe)
40. 02:14 PM - Re: Engine Mount (Jack)
41. 02:19 PM - Re: EAA membership mailings (Jack)
42. 02:37 PM - Re: EAA/AOPA (Dennis Engelkenjohn)
43. 02:45 PM - Re: Pitot Tube Bend (Jerry Dotson)
44. 04:46 PM - Re: EAA/AOPA (Wayne Bressler)
45. 05:40 PM - Re: EAA/AOPA (Jack)
46. 06:22 PM - Re: Engine Mount (JerryGrogan)
47. 06:27 PM - Re: Pitot Tube Bend (skellytown flyer)
48. 07:50 PM - Wedgie (Clif Dawson)
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I'm finding the motor mount to be a challenge for sure. I checked out a lot
of pictures for help so here are some to assist others challenged...
Jack
DSM
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
Jack,
Nice work, as with most of your posts.
>From what I see, it appears the frame is a weldment, which doesn't come apart...
How will you remove your completed engine mount? Will it slide out?
Please keep more pics coming.
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Tom Kreiner
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
>I'm finding the motor mount to be a challenge for sure. I checked out a lot
>of pictures for help so here are some to assist others challenged...
>Jack
>DSM
Jack,
I too am struggling with my engine mount. I started out with a jig and tack welded
the first set of tubes. I started having trouble with the bigger cluster
welds because I couldn't get enough heat on them. So, I removed the mount from
the jig to weld them, thinking the jig was sinking away too much heat. When
I tried to put it back on the jig, it didn't want to fit. After consulting
with another builder, I "coerced" the mount back on the jig with a rubber mallet
and now am planning on re-heating the clusters to relieve the stress. I hope
this works. I have one remaining tube to weld onto the mount and I am definitely
going to leave it on the jig when I do that.
Regards,
John F.
Prairie Aire 4TA0
GN-1 / Corvair 164CID
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Subject: | Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight article and Dick N's |
Piet on
Hello Oscar,
I too don't like what EAA national has been up to. I do however like what most
of the local EAA chapters are doing. I have been a tech counselor for close
to 20 years now. I do like doing that and I think that if we didn't self police,
the accident statistics would reflect that. It is the main reason I am still
a member. I also learn a lot with every airplane visit I make. In fact,
I probably learn more than the builder does. I usually only spend about ten minutes
skimming through the magazine. Nothing very good in there for the last
few years.
Yes Oscar I agree with you and wouldn't bee a member except the Tech Counselor
part.
Just my 3 cents,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
Tom excellent observation, I had not given it any thought! Duh...if it doesn't
slide out I will cut the uprights carefully so I can pass the jig on...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:08 AM, "tkreiner" <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Jack,
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> Nice work, as with most of your posts.
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>> From what I see, it appears the frame is a weldment, which doesn't come apart...
How will you remove your completed engine mount? Will it slide out?
>
> Please keep more pics coming.
>
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> Tom Kreiner
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
John I'm planning that it will need some tweaking to fit the mounts. Even with
a jig my gear moved about a half inch. Instead of forcing the gear I plugged the
existing holes and moved the gear mount on the fuselage to match. Should have
not drilled the front mount holes...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:11 AM, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> wrote:
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>> I'm finding the motor mount to be a challenge for sure. I checked out a lot
>> of pictures for help so here are some to assist others challenged...
>> Jack
>> DSM
>
> Jack,
>
> I too am struggling with my engine mount. I started out with a jig and tack
welded the first set of tubes. I started having trouble with the bigger cluster
welds because I couldn't get enough heat on them. So, I removed the mount
from the jig to weld them, thinking the jig was sinking away too much heat. When
I tried to put it back on the jig, it didn't want to fit. After consulting
with another builder, I "coerced" the mount back on the jig with a rubber mallet
and now am planning on re-heating the clusters to relieve the stress. I
hope this works. I have one remaining tube to weld onto the mount and I am definitely
going to leave it on the jig when I do that.
>
> Regards,
> John F.
> Prairie Aire 4TA0
> GN-1 / Corvair 164CID
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
Tom as I look closer I should be ok sliding it up. I will have to remember to weld
the bottom x braces out of the jig...thanks for the heads up!
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:08 AM, "tkreiner" <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Jack,
>
> Nice work, as with most of your posts.
>
>> From what I see, it appears the frame is a weldment, which doesn't come apart...
How will you remove your completed engine mount? Will it slide out?
>
> Please keep more pics coming.
>
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> Tom Kreiner
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393264#393264
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
Jack,
If I were modifying this jig, I'd get 4 plates which would be bolted to the uprights,
matched drilled for AN5 bolts, maybe 3 to 4 inches apart prior to cutting
the uprights. If the plates are suitably stamped or marked as to UP, or some
way to identify where they go, the frame can then be bolted together, unbolted,
etc., to remove the completed frames.
My two cents worth...
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Tom Kreiner
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Subject: | Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight article and Dick |
N's Piet on
Likewise, Oscar! I did the same thing. If you don't crave WW2 airplanes
you're really not a part of EAA. I had enough of WW2 airplanes in WW2. C
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From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:06 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight article and Dick
N's Piet on
>
> Mikee, you're testing my resolve. I walked away from EAA as of last
> December, after 30 years as a member (no. 237232) because they walked away
> from experimental aviation and walked away from me. I guess I'll just
> have to accept the fact that I'll miss the occasional good parts that EAA
> still offers.
>
> I'm hanging onto my AOPA membership for now... no. 455536, member since
> 1971.
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> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
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Funny Oscar--I never joined AOPA but have always kept my membership with EAA despite
the corporatization
of the organization. It isn't like the 'old days' but it still is the best thing
we have going.
If I kept all the hundreds and hundreds of mailings that AOPA has sent me over
the years trying to get
me to join (they started when I became a pilot in 1981) I could have heated my
house for an entire year
using a woodburner. I'm sure they have some good points but.....
Mike C.
PS--you aren't missing much. You've seen all the great photos of Dick N.'s Pietenpol
and the first flight article
can pretty much be found anywhere Googling it. I'm sure my Uncle Tony talks about
first flights.
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Looks very nice. Better than most I have seen.
Jerry
Prairie City, IA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:24 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine Mount
I'm finding the motor mount to be a challenge for sure. I checked out a lot
of pictures for help so here are some to assist others challenged...
Jack
DSM
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Subject: | Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight article and Dick N's |
Piet on
I was in Oshkosh over the weekend to give a talk at the EAA museum (met Doc Mosher
there), and a number of people involved with EAA told me that the organisation
is heading in a greatly improved direction now that they forced out Rod Hightower.
Hopefully we'll see some results. I'm a member of both AOPA and EAA,
both have their positives and negatives.
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Agreed on the mailings, although EAA does it too. My EAA renewal is in March and
they start sending renewal notices months early, I think my first one came
before Christmas-
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Subject: | EAA membership mailings |
I totally agree with Andrew King that the EAA membership renewal notices start
arriving in our mailboxes WAY
too early and way too frequently.
I passive-aggressively deal with this by calling them on the very last day of my
annual membership and paying
for my new membership over the phone with my Visa card.
Funny how EAA won't even give you a postage-paid return envelope for your membership
renewal. It says "Place
stamp here."
Great to hear things are looking up at EAA since Rod Warbird Hightower is gone.
I wonder who will pay the fuel
he burns in his Stearman and T-6 now?
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
On 1/30/2013 6:23 AM, Jack wrote:
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> I'm finding the motor mount to be a challenge for sure. I checked out a lot
> of pictures for help so here are some to assist others challenged...
> Jack
> DSM
Thats really a nice jig. Mine was made out of plywood and steel, and it
would keep catching fire. To let the weld properly cool, I'd have to
blow out the flames.
--
Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
If this catches fire were in trouble!
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jan 30, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 1/30/2013 6:23 AM, Jack wrote:
>> I'm finding the motor mount to be a challenge for sure. I checked
out a lot
>> of pictures for help so here are some to assist others challenged...
>> Jack
>> DSM
> Thats really a nice jig. Mine was made out of plywood and steel, and it would
keep catching fire. To let the weld properly cool, I'd have to blow out the
flames.
>
> --
> Ben Charvet, PharmD
> Staff Pharmacist
> Parrish Medical center
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
Just want to make it the best possible for your expert welding!
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jan 30, 2013, at 9:34 AM, "JerryGrogan" <jerry@skyclassic.net> wrote:
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> Looks very nice. Better than most I have seen.
>
> Jerry
> Prairie City, IA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:24 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine Mount
>
>
> I'm finding the motor mount to be a challenge for sure. I checked out a lot
> of pictures for help so here are some to assist others challenged...
> Jack
> DSM
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Subject: | Re: Pitot Tube Bend |
Michael I wondered the same, hope to see some thoughts...
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Jack Textor
On Jan 28, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> Before installing the pitot tube to the wing, I am wondering if it would b
e worth bending the tube first. I have seen them both straight and bent and a
m curious if a bend would allow water to settle in on the bottom and allow "
dry" air to flow into the indicator. (if getting cought in rain in flight) P
erhaps in flight, the water will just get pushed in anyway. Anyone have iss
ues with the straight tube pitots and water?
>
> Michael Perez
> Pietenpol HINT Videos
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
Ben, I am getting ready to build my engine mount for the Corvair engine. I
was going to build the jig out of 3/4 plywood with a thin sheet of
galvanized steel covering the wood where the welding was to be done. Would
this keep the flames down? Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Charvet" <bencharvet@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Mount
>
> On 1/30/2013 6:23 AM, Jack wrote:
>> I'm finding the motor mount to be a challenge for sure. I
>> checked out a lot
>> of pictures for help so here are some to assist others challenged...
>> Jack
>> DSM
> Thats really a nice jig. Mine was made out of plywood and steel, and it
> would keep catching fire. To let the weld properly cool, I'd have to blow
> out the flames.
>
> --
> Ben Charvet, PharmD
> Staff Pharmacist
> Parrish Medical center
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
>
>Ben, I am getting ready to build my engine mount for the Corvair engine. I
>was going to build the jig out of 3/4 plywood with a thin sheet of
>galvanized steel covering the wood where the welding was to be done. Would
>this keep the flames down? Chuck
Chuck, I started out with a 3/4" jig with 1/16th steel sheeting to act as a flame
guard. The problem was that the bolts got so hot that they charred the plywood
and started to waller out the mounting holes. I ended up drilling holes
in my all-metal welding table and using it for a jig.
John F.
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Hey Guys
Have either of you looked at the Antique Airplane Assn instead. They
publish a nice but small newsletter and hav a very nice fly in after
Brodhead. They have more antique airplanes and you dont need any stinking
radios to go in there.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
<michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:56 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: EAA/AOPA
Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Funny Oscar--I never joined AOPA but have always kept my membership with EAA
despite the corporatization
of the organization. It isn't like the 'old days' but it still is the
best thing we have going.
If I kept all the hundreds and hundreds of mailings that AOPA has sent me
over the years trying to get
me to join (they started when I became a pilot in 1981) I could have heated
my house for an entire year
using a woodburner. I'm sure they have some good points but.....
Mike C.
PS--you aren't missing much. You've seen all the great photos of Dick N.'s
Pietenpol and the first flight article
can pretty much be found anywhere Googling it. I'm sure my Uncle Tony
talks about first flights.
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Subject: | Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight article and Dick |
N's Piet on
In my humble opinion we all need to support these types of organizations if
only for their advocacy people in Washington. Those clowns would take our
flying freedoms away from us so fast (in the name of safety) it would make
all of our heads spin.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: Baldeagle <baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:50 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight article and Dic
k N's Piet on
t>
I was in Oshkosh over the weekend to give a talk at the EAA museum (met Doc
Mosher there), and a number of people involved with EAA told me that the
organisation is heading in a greatly improved direction now that they force
d out
Rod Hightower. Hopefully we'll see some results. I'm a member of both AOP
A and
EAA, both have their positives and negatives.
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Subject: | Re: Pitot Tube Bend |
I received a direct reply form Mike C. he uses a straight tube with no issu
es.
Michael Perez
=0APietenpol HINT Videos
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
--- On Wed, 1/30/13, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pitot Tube Bend
Michael I wondered the same, hope to see some thoughts...
Sent from my iPadJack Textor
On Jan 28, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> wrote
:
Before installing the pitot tube to the wing, I am wondering if it would be
worth bending the tube first. I have seen them both straight and bent and
am curious if a bend would allow water to settle in on the bottom and allow
"dry" air to flow into the indicator. (if getting cought in rain in flight
) Perhaps-in flight, the water will just get pushed in anyway.- Anyone
have issues with the straight tube pitots and water? =0A-=0AMichael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
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Subject: | EAA membership mailings |
I can say that RH was NOT our guy to run EAA and that problem is solved.
Jack Pelton volunteered to fill in until an EAA leader is identified. Jack
is a great longtime EAA Member and through Cessna helped launch the highly
successful Young Eagles Program. We are working on a daily basis to take EAA
back to the friendly days of old, but it is not as easy a task as you might
think. We cover every type of aircraft from helium balloon flight to
personal jets, and everything in between (including warbirds). It takes a
balance to make everything work. A lot of changes happened in the past two
years and we want those changes gone. Don't get me started about our
magazine, Sport Aviation, but we WILL get it back! Be sure to subscribe for
free to EAA Experimenter http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/
Barry D
NX973BP
PS: One way to cure the pesky mailing problem is to do what I did. I joined
for a Lifetime Membership. I got a cool Jacket and hat, and get to attend a
great dinner banquet at Airventure every year for Lifetime Members and I can
take a guest.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:24 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: EAA membership mailings
--> (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
I totally agree with Andrew King that the EAA membership renewal notices
start arriving in our mailboxes WAY too early and way too frequently.
I passive-aggressively deal with this by calling them on the very last day
of my annual membership and paying for my new membership over the phone with
my Visa card.
Funny how EAA won't even give you a postage-paid return envelope for your
membership renewal. It says "Place stamp here."
Great to hear things are looking up at EAA since Rod Warbird Hightower is
gone. I wonder who will pay the fuel
he burns in his Stearman and T-6 now?
Mike C.
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Subject: | EAA Lifetime Membership costs $995 |
That's a good option Barry but I'd rather pay as I go:) !
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Subject: | Re: Pitot Tube Bend |
Mine's bent...no issues.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 30, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
> Michael I wondered the same, hope to see some thoughts...
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Jack Textor
>
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> wrot
e:
>
>>
>> Before installing the pitot tube to the wing, I am wondering if it would b
e worth bending the tube first. I have seen them both straight and bent and a
m curious if a bend would allow water to settle in on the bottom and allow "
dry" air to flow into the indicator. (if getting cought in rain in flight) P
erhaps in flight, the water will just get pushed in anyway. Anyone have iss
ues with the straight tube pitots and water?
>>
>> Michael Perez
>> Pietenpol HINT Videos
>> Karetaker Aero
>> www.karetakeraero.com
>
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
I like a good fire, now and then! My jig was all 2x4, merely holding 1/2" all-thread
in place, while nuts and washers held the parts in place, and 100% sacrificial.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 30, 2013, at 9:50 AM, "C N Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Ben, I am getting ready to build my engine mount for the Corvair engine. I was
going to build the jig out of 3/4 plywood with a thin sheet of galvanized steel
covering the wood where the welding was to be done. Would this keep the flames
down? Chuck
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Charvet" <bencharvet@gmail.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Mount
>
>
>>
>> On 1/30/2013 6:23 AM, Jack wrote:
>>> I'm finding the motor mount to be a challenge for sure. I checked
out a lot
>>> of pictures for help so here are some to assist others challenged...
>>> Jack
>>> DSM
>> Thats really a nice jig. Mine was made out of plywood and steel, and it would
keep catching fire. To let the weld properly cool, I'd have to blow out the
flames.
>>
>> --
>> Ben Charvet, PharmD
>> Staff Pharmacist
>> Parrish Medical center
>
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Subject: | Re: Pitot Tube Bend |
But Gary, does it ever rain in Cool California?
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> Mine's bent...no issues.
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 30, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
>
> Michael I wondered the same, hope to see some thoughts...
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Jack Textor
>
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> Before installing the pitot tube to the wing, I am wondering if it would
> be worth bending the tube first. I have seen them both straight and bent
> and am curious if a bend would allow water to settle in on the bottom and
> allow "dry" air to flow into the indicator. (if getting cought in rain in
> flight) Perhaps in flight, the water will just get pushed in anyway.
> Anyone have issues with the straight tube pitots and water?
>
> Michael Perez
> Pietenpol HINT Videos
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
>
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Subject: | Re: Pitot Tube Bend |
30"+
Gary
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote:
> But Gary, does it ever rain in Cool California?
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote
:
>> Mine's bent...no issues.
>>
>> Gary Boothe
>> NX308MB
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael I wondered the same, hope to see some thoughts...
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> Jack Textor
>>>
>>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> wr
ote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Before installing the pitot tube to the wing, I am wondering if it woul
d be worth bending the tube first. I have seen them both straight and bent a
nd am curious if a bend would allow water to settle in on the bottom and all
ow "dry" air to flow into the indicator. (if getting cought in rain in fligh
t) Perhaps in flight, the water will just get pushed in anyway. Anyone have
issues with the straight tube pitots and water?
>>>>
>>>> Michael Perez
>>>> Pietenpol HINT Videos
>>>> Karetaker Aero
>>>> www.karetakeraero.com
>>>
>>>
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Subject: | Re: Pitot Tube Bend |
I'm glad it's clear we're discussing pitot tubes :)
Do not archive
Kip Gardner
On Jan 30, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
> Mine's bent...no issues.
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 30, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
>
>> Michael I wondered the same, hope to see some thoughts...
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>> Jack Textor
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Michael Perez
>> <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Before installing the pitot tube to the wing, I am wondering if it
>>> would be worth bending the tube first. I have seen them both
>>> straight and bent and am curious if a bend would allow water to
>>> settle in on the bottom and allow "dry" air to flow into the
>>> indicator. (if getting cought in rain in flight) Perhaps in
>>> flight, the water will just get pushed in anyway. Anyone have
>>> issues with the straight tube pitots and water?
>>>
>>> Michael Perez
>>> Pietenpol HINT Videos
>>> Karetaker Aero
>>> www.karetakeraero.com
>>>
>>>
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Subject: | Re: Pitot Tube Bend |
I don't get the concern. I don't care how you design your pitot, on a Piet t
here will always be a point lower than the tube opening. Just cover it if yo
u have a concern.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote:
> But Gary, does it ever rain in Cool California?
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote
:
>> Mine's bent...no issues.
>>
>> Gary Boothe
>> NX308MB
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael I wondered the same, hope to see some thoughts...
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> Jack Textor
>>>
>>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> wr
ote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Before installing the pitot tube to the wing, I am wondering if it woul
d be worth bending the tube first. I have seen them both straight and bent a
nd am curious if a bend would allow water to settle in on the bottom and all
ow "dry" air to flow into the indicator. (if getting cought in rain in fligh
t) Perhaps in flight, the water will just get pushed in anyway. Anyone have
issues with the straight tube pitots and water?
>>>>
>>>> Michael Perez
>>>> Pietenpol HINT Videos
>>>> Karetaker Aero
>>>> www.karetakeraero.com
>>>
>>>
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
Jack, Not only is your shop as clean as an operating room, you are a metal surgeon
to boot. All looks very professional.
Dan
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393307#393307
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
Thanks, John. I hadn 't even thought of that. Guess I'll take this up with
my welder. He uses TIG which is not as hot as Oxy Acetylene
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Franklin" <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Mount
>
>
>><cncampbell@windstream.net>
>>
>>Ben, I am getting ready to build my engine mount for the Corvair engine. I
>>was going to build the jig out of 3/4 plywood with a thin sheet of
>>galvanized steel covering the wood where the welding was to be done. Would
>>this keep the flames down? Chuck
>
> Chuck, I started out with a 3/4" jig with 1/16th steel sheeting to act as
> a flame guard. The problem was that the bolts got so hot that they
> charred the plywood and started to waller out the mounting holes. I ended
> up drilling holes in my all-metal welding table and using it for a jig.
>
> John F.
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
Did you, like John, have a problem with the heat causing the 1/2" threaded
rod to wallow out the holes in the wood. I guess I could make mine out of
2X4 also. I was planning on 3/4" plywood -- in fact have already bought the
plywood, but the 2X4 might absorb a little more heat. My welder uses TIG.
I understand this is not as hot as Oxy Acetylene. Do you know if this is
true? Gary, I was very impressed by the film clip of your airplane flying
the first time. Congrats. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Mount
>
> I like a good fire, now and then! My jig was all 2x4, merely holding 1/2"
> all-thread in place, while nuts and washers held the parts in place, and
> 100% sacrificial.
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 30, 2013, at 9:50 AM, "C N Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
> wrote:
>
>> <cncampbell@windstream.net>
>>
>> Ben, I am getting ready to build my engine mount for the Corvair engine.
>> I was going to build the jig out of 3/4 plywood with a thin sheet of
>> galvanized steel covering the wood where the welding was to be done.
>> Would this keep the flames down? Chuck
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Charvet" <bencharvet@gmail.com>
>> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Mount
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 1/30/2013 6:23 AM, Jack wrote:
>>>> I'm finding the motor mount to be a challenge for sure. I
>>>> checked out a lot
>>>> of pictures for help so here are some to assist others challenged...
>>>> Jack
>>>> DSM
>>> Thats really a nice jig. Mine was made out of plywood and steel, and it
>>> would keep catching fire. To let the weld properly cool, I'd have to
>>> blow out the flames.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ben Charvet, PharmD
>>> Staff Pharmacist
>>> Parrish Medical center
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Subject: | Re: Pitot Tube Bend |
Hey, Guys, I would like to see some pictures of pitot tube
installations. Are there any on West Coast Piet? C
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pitot Tube Bend
Mine's bent...no issues.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 30, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
Michael I wondered the same, hope to see some thoughts...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jan 28, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Michael Perez
<speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Before installing the pitot tube to the wing, I am wondering
if it would be worth bending the tube first. I have seen them both
straight and bent and am curious if a bend would allow water to settle
in on the bottom and allow "dry" air to flow into the indicator. (if
getting cought in rain in flight) Perhaps in flight, the water will just
get pushed in anyway. Anyone have issues with the straight tube pitots
and water?
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
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Subject: | Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight article and Dick |
N's Piet on
Hadn't thought of that. Maybe I need to renew my subscription. C
----- Original Message -----
From: helspersew@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight
article and Dick N's Piet on
In my humble opinion we all need to support these types of
organizations if only for their advocacy people in Washington. Those
clowns would take our flying freedoms away from us so fast (in the name
of safety) it would make all of our heads spin.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Baldeagle <baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:50 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight article
and Dick N's Piet on
<baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
I was in Oshkosh over the weekend to give a talk at the EAA museum (met
Doc
Mosher there), and a number of people involved with EAA told me that the
organisation is heading in a greatly improved direction now that they
forced out
Rod Hightower. Hopefully we'll see some results. I'm a member of both
AOPA and
EAA, both have their positives and negatives.
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Subject: | Re: EAA membership mailings |
My lifetime membership wouldn't last very long! C
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:48 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: EAA membership mailings
>
> I can say that RH was NOT our guy to run EAA and that problem is solved.
> Jack Pelton volunteered to fill in until an EAA leader is identified. Jack
> is a great longtime EAA Member and through Cessna helped launch the highly
> successful Young Eagles Program. We are working on a daily basis to take
> EAA
> back to the friendly days of old, but it is not as easy a task as you
> might
> think. We cover every type of aircraft from helium balloon flight to
> personal jets, and everything in between (including warbirds). It takes a
> balance to make everything work. A lot of changes happened in the past two
> years and we want those changes gone. Don't get me started about our
> magazine, Sport Aviation, but we WILL get it back! Be sure to subscribe
> for
> free to EAA Experimenter http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/
> Barry D
> NX973BP
> PS: One way to cure the pesky mailing problem is to do what I did. I
> joined
> for a Lifetime Membership. I got a cool Jacket and hat, and get to attend
> a
> great dinner banquet at Airventure every year for Lifetime Members and I
> can
> take a guest.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,
> Michael
> D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:24 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: EAA membership mailings
>
> --> (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
>
> I totally agree with Andrew King that the EAA membership renewal notices
> start arriving in our mailboxes WAY too early and way too frequently.
>
> I passive-aggressively deal with this by calling them on the very last day
> of my annual membership and paying for my new membership over the phone
> with
> my Visa card.
>
> Funny how EAA won't even give you a postage-paid return envelope for your
> membership renewal. It says "Place stamp here."
>
> Great to hear things are looking up at EAA since Rod Warbird Hightower is
> gone. I wonder who will pay the fuel
> he burns in his Stearman and T-6 now?
>
> Mike C.
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: February EAA issue- 1st flight article and Dick N's |
Piet on
Right on Mr Dan. The EAA and AOPA don't have a clue about us plans builders. BUT
they have a good lobby that works somewhat in our best interest be it for the
$100k and up crowd. The benefits are such that I am going to continue to pay
my dues and take a casual look at Sport Aviation. I hope everyone knows about
the Experimenter magazine online. I download it to my computer every month. It
is a lot more for my interests than Sport Aviation.
My 2 cents
--------
Jerry Dotson
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
Thanks, Chuck! Yes, the burned, and I'm sure there was some 'wallering', but not
enough of the 2x4 burned to be a problem.
Gary
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:38 PM, "C N Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Did you, like John, have a problem with the heat causing the 1/2" threaded rod
to wallow out the holes in the wood. I guess I could make mine out of 2X4 also.
I was planning on 3/4" plywood -- in fact have already bought the plywood,
but the 2X4 might absorb a little more heat. My welder uses TIG. I understand
this is not as hot as Oxy Acetylene. Do you know if this is true? Gary,
I was very impressed by the film clip of your airplane flying the first time.
Congrats. Chuck
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Mount
>
>
>>
>> I like a good fire, now and then! My jig was all 2x4, merely holding 1/2" all-thread
in place, while nuts and washers held the parts in place, and 100% sacrificial.
>>
>> Gary Boothe
>> NX308MB
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 9:50 AM, "C N Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ben, I am getting ready to build my engine mount for the Corvair engine. I
was going to build the jig out of 3/4 plywood with a thin sheet of galvanized
steel covering the wood where the welding was to be done. Would this keep the
flames down? Chuck
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Charvet" <bencharvet@gmail.com>
>>> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:35 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Mount
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/30/2013 6:23 AM, Jack wrote:
>>>>> I'm finding the motor mount to be a challenge for sure. I checked
out a lot
>>>>> of pictures for help so here are some to assist others challenged...
>>>>> Jack
>>>>> DSM
>>>> Thats really a nice jig. Mine was made out of plywood and steel, and it would
keep catching fire. To let the weld properly cool, I'd have to blow out
the flames.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ben Charvet, PharmD
>>>> Staff Pharmacist
>>>> Parrish Medical center
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Engine Mount |
In retrospect I maybe should not have painted mine...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:30 PM, "C N Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks, John. I hadn 't even thought of that. Guess I'll take this up with
my welder. He uses TIG which is not as hot as Oxy Acetylene
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Franklin" <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Mount
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Ben, I am getting ready to build my engine mount for the Corvair engine. I
>>> was going to build the jig out of 3/4 plywood with a thin sheet of
>>> galvanized steel covering the wood where the welding was to be done. Would
>>> this keep the flames down? Chuck
>>
>> Chuck, I started out with a 3/4" jig with 1/16th steel sheeting to act as a
flame guard. The problem was that the bolts got so hot that they charred the
plywood and started to waller out the mounting holes. I ended up drilling holes
in my all-metal welding table and using it for a jig.
>>
>> John F.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: EAA membership mailings |
Barry I've considered a lifetime but am superstitious too. I support EAA and AOPA
for the support in Washington. Considering the AAA, I was a member for years
and never felt part of the cult in Blakesberg, so I resigned...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:48 PM, "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> I can say that RH was NOT our guy to run EAA and that problem is solved.
> Jack Pelton volunteered to fill in until an EAA leader is identified. Jack
> is a great longtime EAA Member and through Cessna helped launch the highly
> successful Young Eagles Program. We are working on a daily basis to take EAA
> back to the friendly days of old, but it is not as easy a task as you might
> think. We cover every type of aircraft from helium balloon flight to
> personal jets, and everything in between (including warbirds). It takes a
> balance to make everything work. A lot of changes happened in the past two
> years and we want those changes gone. Don't get me started about our
> magazine, Sport Aviation, but we WILL get it back! Be sure to subscribe for
> free to EAA Experimenter http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/
> Barry D
> NX973BP
> PS: One way to cure the pesky mailing problem is to do what I did. I joined
> for a Lifetime Membership. I got a cool Jacket and hat, and get to attend a
> great dinner banquet at Airventure every year for Lifetime Members and I can
> take a guest.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
> D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:24 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: EAA membership mailings
>
> --> (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
>
> I totally agree with Andrew King that the EAA membership renewal notices
> start arriving in our mailboxes WAY too early and way too frequently.
>
> I passive-aggressively deal with this by calling them on the very last day
> of my annual membership and paying for my new membership over the phone with
> my Visa card.
>
> Funny how EAA won't even give you a postage-paid return envelope for your
> membership renewal. It says "Place stamp here."
>
> Great to hear things are looking up at EAA since Rod Warbird Hightower is
> gone. I wonder who will pay the fuel
> he burns in his Stearman and T-6 now?
>
> Mike C.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I always heard they didn't just allow anybody to go to Blakesburg. If you
didn't have an antique aircraft then you didn't get to come. You know, "keep
out the riff raff" such as me.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick N
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EAA/AOPA
Hey Guys
Have either of you looked at the Antique Airplane Assn instead. They
publish a nice but small newsletter and hav a very nice fly in after
Brodhead. They have more antique airplanes and you dont need any stinking
radios to go in there.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
<michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:56 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: EAA/AOPA
Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Funny Oscar--I never joined AOPA but have always kept my membership with EAA
despite the corporatization
of the organization. It isn't like the 'old days' but it still is the
best thing we have going.
If I kept all the hundreds and hundreds of mailings that AOPA has sent me
over the years trying to get
me to join (they started when I became a pilot in 1981) I could have heated
my house for an entire year
using a woodburner. I'm sure they have some good points but.....
Mike C.
PS--you aren't missing much. You've seen all the great photos of Dick N.'s
Pietenpol and the first flight article
can pretty much be found anywhere Googling it. I'm sure my Uncle Tony
talks about first flights.
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Subject: | Re: Pitot Tube Bend |
My pitot is straight 1/4"OD stainless tubing ran through the leading edge at the
wing tip attached to 1/4"ID vinyl tubing that is fastened with zip ties to
the ribs up close to the leading edge plywood. I keep covers on the pitot and
fuel tank vent to keep those little bees from plugging them up in the hangar.
I wrecked a pristine 1946 Stinson 108 in 1973 from the fuel tank vent being plugged
off. After a local flight of 30 or so minutes, did a touch and go at best
angle of climb speed for no real reason. At about 50 feet the engine quit with
absolutely no warning. Reaction time, slow speed, full load wife and my 2 boys.
I popped the nose over to try to get some speed to no avail. I landed in
a 3 point attitude but nothing to break the descent rate. Messed up a nice airplane.
That event forever changed the way I fly and preflight. I never climb slow
low except when necessary. Sorry for the long post but it needed to be said.
I got way off topic. Maybe I planted a seed that might help some one.
--------
Jerry Dotson
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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The fly-in is for AAA members, here is the text from their website:
For a variety of reasons including insurance coverage, the AAA National Fly-
in at Blakesburg is an invitational members-only event. There are numerous b
enefits to AAA membership and being able to attend the fly-in is one of the b
iggest. You can join on the spot if you didn't already join and pre-register
. Pre-registration helps out with the planning so please do if you can.
Link: http://www.antiqueairfield.com/flyins/attending.html
Wayne Bressler
Taildraggers, Inc.
www.taildraggersinc.com
On Jan 30, 2013, at 5:40 PM, "Dennis Engelkenjohn" <mushface1@gmail.com> wro
te:
il.com>
>
> I always heard they didn't just allow anybody to go to Blakesburg. If you d
idn't have an antique aircraft then you didn't get to come. You know, "keep o
ut the riff raff" such as me.
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Dick N
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:17 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EAA/AOPA
>
>
> Hey Guys
> Have either of you looked at the Antique Airplane Assn instead. They
> publish a nice but small newsletter and hav a very nice fly in after
> Brodhead. They have more antique airplanes and you dont need any stinking
> radios to go in there.
> Dick N.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Par
tners, LLC]"
> <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:56 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: EAA/AOPA
>
>
> Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
>
> Funny Oscar--I never joined AOPA but have always kept my membership with E
AA
> despite the corporatization
> of the organization. It isn't like the 'old days' but it still is the
> best thing we have going.
>
> If I kept all the hundreds and hundreds of mailings that AOPA has sent me
> over the years trying to get
> me to join (they started when I became a pilot in 1981) I could have heat
ed
> my house for an entire year
> using a woodburner. I'm sure they have some good points but.....
>
> Mike C.
>
> PS--you aren't missing much. You've seen all the great photos of Dick N.'
s
> Pietenpol and the first flight article
> can pretty much be found anywhere Googling it. I'm sure my Uncle Tony
> talks about first flights.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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The AAA and EAA started about the same time. The AAA's policies have allowed
it to remain a small "exclusive" organization, with little influence in
Washington or the promotion of general aviation. EAA's policies have led to
amazing growth, power and advocacy for aviation and allowing millions of
people to enjoy aviation. Many times I've enjoyed visiting with Paul
Poberenzy under a "classic" wing or on his motorcycle at Blakesburg. He has
done more than anybody to promote aviation. I will always support EAA for
this.
Jack Textor
Des Moines, IA
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
Bressler
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EAA/AOPA
The fly-in is for AAA members, here is the text from their website:
For a variety of reasons including insurance coverage, the AAA National
Fly-in at Blakesburg is an invitational members-only event. There are
numerous benefits to AAA <http://www.antiqueairfield.com/members>
membership and being able to attend the fly-in is one of the biggest. You
can join on the spot if you didn't already join and pre-register.
Pre-registration helps out with the planning so please do if you can.
Link: <http://www.antiqueairfield.com/flyins/attending.html>
http://www.antiqueairfield.com/flyins/attending.html
Wayne Bressler
Taildraggers, Inc.
www.taildraggersinc.com
On Jan 30, 2013, at 5:40 PM, "Dennis Engelkenjohn" <mushface1@gmail.com>
wrote:
<mushface1@gmail.com>
I always heard they didn't just allow anybody to go to Blakesburg. If you
didn't have an antique aircraft then you didn't get to come. You know, "keep
out the riff raff" such as me.
Dennis
-----Original Message----- From: Dick N
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EAA/AOPA
Hey Guys
Have either of you looked at the Antique Airplane Assn instead. They
publish a nice but small newsletter and hav a very nice fly in after
Brodhead. They have more antique airplanes and you dont need any stinking
radios to go in there.
Dick N.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
Partners, LLC]"
<michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:56 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: EAA/AOPA
Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Funny Oscar--I never joined AOPA but have always kept my membership with EAA
despite the corporatization
of the organization. It isn't like the 'old days' but it still is the
best thing we have going.
If I kept all the hundreds and hundreds of mailings that AOPA has sent me
over the years trying to get
me to join (they started when I became a pilot in 1981) I could have heated
my house for an entire year
using a woodburner. I'm sure they have some good points but.....
Mike C.
PS--you aren't missing much. You've seen all the great photos of Dick N.'s
Pietenpol and the first flight article
can pretty much be found anywhere Googling it. I'm sure my Uncle Tony
talks about first flights.
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That's ok Jack the paint will burn off when I weld it. Or you could always
just us the jig as your engine mount. A little heavy though.
Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Mount
In retrospect I maybe should not have painted mine...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:30 PM, "C N Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
wrote:
> --> <cncampbell@windstream.net>
>
> Thanks, John. I hadn 't even thought of that. Guess I'll take this
> up with my welder. He uses TIG which is not as hot as Oxy Acetylene
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Franklin"
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Mount
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>>> Ben, I am getting ready to build my engine mount for the Corvair
>>> engine. I was going to build the jig out of 3/4 plywood with a thin
>>> sheet of galvanized steel covering the wood where the welding was to
>>> be done. Would this keep the flames down? Chuck
>>
>> Chuck, I started out with a 3/4" jig with 1/16th steel sheeting to act as
a flame guard. The problem was that the bolts got so hot that they charred
the plywood and started to waller out the mounting holes. I ended up
drilling holes in my all-metal welding table and using it for a jig.
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>> John F.
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Subject: | Re: Pitot Tube Bend |
When I installed my pitot tube in the wing I mounted a 1/4" ferule fitting with
the end flush with the bottom fabric. and I pressed it up enough to screw the
nut on tight and have a removeable tube bent forwarded so if it ever gets damaged
or I want to just take it off to prevent someone walking into it I can. so
far no problems but I can see vibration could loosen it. I silver soldered a
flange to it and bolted it to the spar so it's solid and stays put when tightening.
Raymond
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Hmmm.....how many things could you do with
this?
http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?cat=2,42194,40727&p=7043
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