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1. 06:23 AM - Re: Attacking in a new direction? (No doping here just latex) (K5YAC)
2. 08:07 AM - Re: Some decals went on today! (TriScout)
3. 01:38 PM - drilling streamling tubing (Dennis Engelkenjohn)
4. 02:02 PM - Re: drilling streamling tubing (Gene Rambo)
5. 02:11 PM - Re: drilling streamling tubing (Dennis Engelkenjohn)
6. 02:22 PM - Re: drilling streamling tubing (tools)
7. 02:34 PM - Re: drilling streamling tubing (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
8. 03:15 PM - landing gear questions (JOSEPH SWITHIN)
9. 03:45 PM - Re: landing gear questions (K5YAC)
10. 03:48 PM - Re: landing gear questions (tools)
11. 03:48 PM - drilling streamlined tubing (Dennis Engelkenjohn)
12. 04:24 PM - Re: Some decals went on today! (jarheadpilot82)
13. 04:46 PM - Re: drilling streamling tubing (Chris)
14. 06:56 PM - ribblett/ piet airfoils (proplock)
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| Subject: | Re: Attacking in a new direction? (No doping here just |
latex)
Sounds like a fun project... neat that is has changed hands several times but never
left home.
Good Luck with that!
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
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| Subject: | Re: Some decals went on today! |
That'll look really neat. Demo it to the Army Air Corp when done. They may just
put in an order for a fleet of them for recon work over Afghanistan. Senate should
approve them, since they're budget friendly.
Larry
N2308C
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| Subject: | drilling streamling tubing |
I am trying to figure out how to drill the cabanne struts, but drawing a
blank. If the stuff was round then a vee block would hold it, but
streamlined tubing doesn=99t work in a v shape. Holes need to be
on the same plane lengthwise and also not drilled twisted if you
understand what I mean. What is the secret method everyone else is
using?
Dennis
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| Subject: | Re: drilling streamling tubing |
Calibrated eyeball.
Level the tube length with the table. Sight from the end (looking into the s
treamline) to make sure going through tube in proper plane. Bushing going in
anyway, right? Can be a little off but make sure bushing is square before w
elding.
Gene
On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:41 PM, "Dennis Engelkenjohn" <mushface1@gmail.com> wrot
e:
> I am trying to figure out how to drill the cabanne struts, but drawing a b
lank. If the stuff was round then a vee block would hold it, but streamlined
tubing doesn=99t work in a v shape. Holes need to be on the same plan
e lengthwise and also not drilled twisted if you understand what I mean. Wha
t is the secret method everyone else is using?
> Dennis
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| Subject: | Re: drilling streamling tubing |
Shoot.... I was afraid of that. Being really nearsighted, I mean coke
bottle glasses nearsighted, my calibration is not precise. Get what you
mean with the bushing though, dremel tool being my buddy almost as much
as my Fein tool.
Dennis
From: Gene Rambo
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: drilling streamling tubing
Calibrated eyeball.
Level the tube length with the table. Sight from the end (looking into
the streamline) to make sure going through tube in proper plane. Bushing
going in anyway, right? Can be a little off but make sure bushing is
square before welding.
Gene
On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:41 PM, "Dennis Engelkenjohn" <mushface1@gmail.com>
wrote:
I am trying to figure out how to drill the cabanne struts, but drawing
a blank. If the stuff was round then a vee block would hold it, but
streamlined tubing doesn=99t work in a v shape. Holes need to be
on the same plane lengthwise and also not drilled twisted if you
understand what I mean. What is the secret method everyone else is
using?
Dennis
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| Subject: | Re: drilling streamling tubing |
I mark where I need the hole on both sides. I make saddles to hold the stock on
the bandsaw. I drill each side separately, undersized. I assemble the whole
mess, step drill closer, then ream to fit.
Important to have a really sharp self centering drill bit (I sharpen my own using
a 4 facet method), but off the shelf chisel points work pretty well too.
High speed generally works better in thin metal as well to prevent wandering.
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| Subject: | drilling streamling tubing |
Hi Dennis,
Gene gave you the quick and sensible method, here is my "do everything the hardest
possible way method".
Make a cardboard cutout profile of the streamlined tube from leading edge to max
of the minor dimension, use this to mark the same spot on each end. Cut a wood
profile from mid LE to mid TE, use this as a saddle when you drill the hole
at each end. And after you weld the first bushing, stick a rod or bolt in it
to use as a site when you weld in the other end.
Skip
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From: Dennis Engelkenjohn
Sent: 2/9/2013 4:40:17 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: drilling streamling tubing
I am trying to figure out how to drill the cabanne struts, but drawing a blank.
If the stuff was round then a vee block would hold it, but streamlined tubing
doesnt work in a v shape. Holes need to be on the same plane lengthwise and also
not drilled twisted if you understand what I mean. What is the secret method
everyone else is using?
Dennis
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| Subject: | landing gear questions |
Thanks to Chris, Oscar, Mark Chouinard, Mark McKellar, & Terry Hand for your responses.
Does anyone know who sells back copies of the BPA Newsletters? They sound
like they would be good to have around.
Thanks
Joe Swithin
Gathering parts
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| Subject: | Re: landing gear questions |
I think Markle is selling them. [Laughing]
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
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| Subject: | Re: landing gear questions |
Contact Doc Mosher, sure he's got them as well. Not sure if he's also got all
the OLD ones, I bought ALL of them from day 1 until the mid '90s (Frank P and
Grant M days) and have them here if you just can't find them. Pretty sure they're
available though.
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| Subject: | drilling streamlined tubing |
Thanks for the help guys! I was thinking about Skips method but was
hoping someone had an easy to make jig or fixture. That=99s what
will probably go with.
Dennis
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| Subject: | Re: Some decals went on today! |
Where did you get/order the decals?
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | drilling streamling tubing |
Dennis
I just got finished fabricating my cabanne struts. Attached are pictures of
the jig I used to hold the struts for drilling. Worked great for me.
Problem was my drill press holes and my holes in the lower fittings were not
perfectly aligned. My cabannes were not vertical when I bolted them in. To
fix it I ended up remaking the inner lower fittings and used the cabanne as
a drill guide while holding the cabanne vertical. Alternatively, what I did
for the upper bolt holes was to drill one side the correct size and one just
slightly larger. Then I tacked the bushing into the cabanne holes on the
tight fitting side and check its fit into the upper wing fitting. If it
needed adjustment, and they all did, I was able to move it around with a
light blow from a hammer. When I had it where I wanted it I tacked it on
the other side, and checked its fit. When I was happy I completed the
welding. Took a long time waiting for it to cool between fitting but it
worked.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
Engelkenjohn
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 1:42 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: drilling streamling tubing
I am trying to figure out how to drill the cabanne struts, but drawing a
blank. If the stuff was round then a vee block would hold it, but
streamlined tubing doesn't work in a v shape. Holes need to be on the same
plane lengthwise and also not drilled twisted if you understand what I mean.
What is the secret method everyone else is using?
Dennis
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| Subject: | ribblett/ piet airfoils |
let's muddy the waters a little more, how does the dasterly GN-1 airfoil compare?
supposedly the g-1 was an improvement, but how so?
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A remarkable lad , capable of many things
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