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1. 02:47 AM - Re: Re: Covering control horn bolts, yes or no (Jack)
2. 03:43 AM - Re: Shoulder Harness (helspersew@aol.com)
3. 04:02 AM - Re: Shoulder Harness (nightmare)
4. 05:49 AM - Re: Shoulder Harness (AircamperN11MS)
5. 06:28 AM - Re: inter-cylinder baffles (Barry Davis)
6. 01:02 PM - Re: Re: TIG Welder (George Abernathy)
7. 01:36 PM - (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
8. 01:39 PM - George in Australia (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
9. 04:14 PM - BFR review (helspersew@aol.com)
10. 04:23 PM - Re: Re: Shoulder Harness (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
11. 04:24 PM - Re: BFR review (Jack)
12. 06:39 PM - Re: BFR review (Gary Boothe)
13. 09:55 PM - Re: inter-cylinder baffles (taildrags)
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| Subject: | Re: Covering control horn bolts, yes or no |
The tail was uncovered in my heated shop.
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:53 PM, "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> Are they covered or open to the elements.?
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> Clif
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>> Yes...on my tale surfaces which were torqued a couple years ago, all bolts
>> for the hinges took one to two turns to tighten up before covering...
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>> Jack Textor
>> Des Moines, IA
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>> Wood shrinkage can allow a through bolt to become loose, all the while the
>> nut never moving and remaining tightly in place on the bolt.
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>> I've seen this on my plane.
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| Subject: | Re: Shoulder Harness |
Here is a perfect exaple where NOT to locate the rear shoulder harness exit
points. Way too far apart. One of the first orders of business this spring
will be to re-rout thesesover the top of the glovebox.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: skipgadd <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:40 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Shoulder Harness
Joseph,
Attached shows how I did my front and pilot pits. Keep in mind this Piet
has not been off the ground.
The 7/16 picture shows the 2nd or 3rd practice instrument board, I have
since moved the engine instruments to the right and the mag switch to the
left, because when starting my Grega I am always standing at the prop or on
the left side.
Skip
> [Original Message]
> From: Ohbejoyful <ohbejoyful10@gmail.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 2/19/2013 8:35:12 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Shoulder Harness
>
>
> I am considering putting shoulder harnesses in my Pietenpol.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas as to the best anchor point for the shoulder
harness for the rear seat? Also what hardware have you found best to mount
to the structure?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joseph
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Shoulder Harness |
very nice design Skip. great idea for front cockpit. also acts a bit like a roll
bar. more weight, but safety first! I lost a former coworker in a beech -18
that would have probably been survivable if our employer had opted to install
shoulder harnesses.
Any other front cockpit shoulder harness designs out there?
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Shoulder Harness |
Here is how I did my front seatbelts. I copied it from another Piet I had seen
at Brodhead. They work very well and can be removed easily. I would do it the
same way again.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | inter-cylinder baffles |
I just finished making a set for a O-300. Wish I had had these dimensions
before I started because I was copying a poorly homemade set that was
already on this engine. They looked like they were hit by a truck, but at
least they are shiny now. LOL
Barry Davis
NX973BP
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: inter-cylinder baffles
I'd concur Dowe with Jack and Harry Fenton. I believe the Bingelis books
show diagrams or sketches of those baffles
and they aren't hard to make up of scrap aluminum, springs, and a piece of
welding rod or wire.
I have a set in my airport desk drawer that I have to reinstall this spring.
Thanks for the reminder. (had them out for maintenance)
Mike C.
Here's a good description with sketches on how to make these puppies.
http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/intercylinder_baffles_343.pdf
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I am in OZ! (A country where nothing works and nobody cares) Way Way down s
outh. I am so happy to be able to find and buy some. If anybody else is usi
ng a tig welder down here I have extra. =0A=0AI had some real fun just tryi
ng to find anybody anywhere that would sell it to me at all. =0A=0A-=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: scudrun <jstreet@uwat
erloo.ca>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, February 21
, 2013 8:45 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: TIG Welder=0A =0A--> Pietenpo
l-List message posted by: "scudrun" <jstreet@uwaterloo.ca>=0A=0AWHAT!- Th
at's a hundred bucks!- I was suggesting buying it through a chemical supp
ly because it should cost a lot LESS than buying chemsharp. Couldn't you go
to the local university and buy some from the chem lab? 20 bucks should bu
y you enough to last a lifetime.- I'm not trying to make you feel bad, I
just wish you would have said something about those numbers before pulling
the trigger!=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.
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Paul--yes, there are other ideas on shoulder harnesses and seat belts out there.
Tony Bingelis has advice on shoulder harnesses. Check out my Uncle Tony's
book series....if you have them. If you don't my Uncle Tony's boys will come
visit you.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | George in Australia |
George-are you on the island of Tasmania? That is where good friend and Pi
et builder Simon McCormack and family
live. Simon has a gorgeous red and cream Ford Piet. He and his wife Susa
n are making the trip to Brodhead and Oshkosh
for the very first time this summer! I've been pen pals with Simon sinc
e around 1994 and really looking forward to seeing
him and watch his face when he finally sees what Brodhead and Oshkosh are r
eally like.
Mike C.
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Got my BFR scheduled for tomorrow, and was roaming YouTube vids for some re
view. Clicked on Martha King segment. Gosh Mikey, you are all over!! http:
//youtu.be/40Ac2YD2LNs
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Re: Shoulder Harness |
Thanks Paul,
Sorry about your coworker.
I copied the British design except the aft legs on mine are not adjustable.
Anyone considering a similar design will need to spend extra time placing
instruments as the shoulder harness brace takes allot of space in the
instrument housing, where there is not much space to begin with.
Skip
> [Original Message]
> From: nightmare <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 2/21/2013 7:05:02 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Shoulder Harness
>
<pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
>
> very nice design Skip. great idea for front cockpit. also acts a bit like
a roll bar. more weight, but safety first! I lost a former coworker in a
beech -18 that would have probably been survivable if our employer had
opted to install shoulder harnesses.
> Any other front cockpit shoulder harness designs out there?
>
> --------
> Paul Donahue
> Started 8-3-12
> do not archive
>
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Jeez Mike hope you are getting royalties!
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Feb 21, 2013, at 6:14 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
> Got my BFR scheduled for tomorrow, and was roaming YouTube vids for some r
eview. Clicked on Martha King segment. Gosh Mikey, you are all over!! http:
//youtu.be/40Ac2YD2LNs
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
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.so now you're ready?
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:14 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: BFR review
Got my BFR scheduled for tomorrow, and was roaming YouTube vids for some
review. Clicked on Martha King segment. Gosh Mikey, you are all over!!
http://youtu.be/40Ac2YD2LNs
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Re: inter-cylinder baffles |
Yes, Douwe- isn't Gardiner's wife just a peach? Very elegant lady, and so nice.
They were kind enough to care for a Ford Ranger pickup that I bought in Atlanta
for a couple of weeks until I could go retrieve it. Such nice folks.
When Scout had the A65 on it, there were no intercylinder baffles on it and I didn't
give it a second thought. However, I began to hear (and read) more about
them and their importance to cooling the full perimeter of the cylinders so
when I swapped from the 65 to the 75, I installed some. The ones on my engine
are right out of Wag-Aero (I believe), and come as a small kit with four aluminum
pieces, a couple of bent stiff wire pieces, and a couple of springs to hold
the baffles in place. Pretty simple stuff, and I can certainly see what they
do to route cooling air from the eyebrows on top, down between and under the
jugs. You can easily make the parts using the information that Mikee and others
have posted here, or you can make them from the patterns that Tony Bingelis
includes in his books. I'm sure a picture will be worth more than thousands
of keystrokes, so maybe someone will post pictures of how the baffles actually
appear when they are in place. I may be out at the hangar this weekend myself,
and the cowlings are off of my engine, so I'll try to get some pix when I'm
there if I remember.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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