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1. 12:21 AM - Re: George in Australia (bubbleboy)
2. 12:25 AM - Re: TIG Welder (bubbleboy)
3. 03:14 AM - Re: Re: TIG Welder (George Abernathy)
4. 03:28 AM - Re: George in Australia (George Abernathy)
5. 04:11 AM - Re: TIG Welder (bubbleboy)
6. 04:26 AM - Re: No Title (nightmare)
7. 07:52 AM - BFR review (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
8. 09:41 AM - Motor Mount Questions (Tim White)
9. 11:48 AM - motor mounts available here (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
10. 11:58 AM - Re: BFR review (helspersew@aol.com)
11. 12:16 PM - Re: motor mounts available here (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
12. 12:32 PM - Re: BFR review (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
13. 03:44 PM - Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? (jarheadpilot82)
14. 04:20 PM - Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? (Gary Boothe)
15. 04:41 PM - Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? (jarheadpilot82)
16. 04:43 PM - Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? (Kip and Beth Gardner)
17. 05:27 PM - Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? (Jack Phillips)
18. 05:33 PM - Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? (Jerry Dotson)
19. 05:36 PM - Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? (jarheadpilot82)
20. 07:38 PM - Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? (dgaldrich)
21. 07:57 PM - Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? (jarheadpilot82)
22. 08:26 PM - Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? (Kip and Beth Gardner)
23. 10:18 PM - Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? (Mark Roberts)
24. 10:26 PM - Re: BFR review (Mark Roberts)
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Subject: | Re: George in Australia |
Hi Mike...... George is in Canberra, our country's capital. Be careful as Taswegians
are reputed to have a 6th finger on each hand. I know I am going to pay
for that...lol
Scotty
--------
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Tail and Ribs built...Building control system and about to start fuselage...Corvair
engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
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Hi George....dont make me come down to Canberra so you can teach me to TIG weld!
Scotty
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Tail and Ribs built...Building control system and about to start fuselage...Corvair
engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
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Hi Scott, =0A=0A=0AI sent an email to confirm your address so I can send th
e parts. Did you get it? Yanhoo has been playing up lately. =0A=0A=0ATig we
lding is much easier than torch welding. =0A=0A=0A=0A______________________
__________=0A From: bubbleboy <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-l
ist@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:25 PM=0ASubject: Pie
bbleboy" <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>=0A=0AHi George....dont make me come do
wn to Canberra so you can teach me to TIG weld! =0A=0AScotty=0A=0A--------
=0ATamworth, Australia=0ABuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper=0A
=0Awww.scottyspietenpol.com=0A=0ATail and Ribs built...Building control sys
tem and about to start fuselage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to
be modified.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums
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Subject: | Re: George in Australia |
I am in Canberra. I have high hopes of getting to broad head one of these d
ays. =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: "Cuy, M
ichael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>=0ATo:
"pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Fri
day, February 22, 2013 8:39 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: George in Austral
ia=0A =0A=0AGeorge=94are you on the island of Tasmania?=C2- That is
where good friend and Piet builder Simon McCormack and family =0Alive.=C2
- Simon has a gorgeous red and cream Ford Piet.=C2-=C2- He and his wi
fe Susan are making the trip to Brodhead and Oshkosh=0Afor the very first t
ime this summer!=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I=99ve been pen pals with Si
mon since around 1994 and really looking forward to seeing=0Ahim and watch
his face when he finally sees what Brodhead and Oshkosh are really like.=C2
-=C2- =0A=C2-=0AMike C.
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Hi George...yes I replied straight away.
Scott Dawson
PO Box 5122
South Tamworth 2340
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Tail and Ribs built...Building control system and about to start fuselage...Corvair
engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
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Thanks Mike, Uncle Tony is stacked up in the garage. I'll have to clear the sawdust
off the stack and thumb threw them.
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
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Martha King really got to me in that video Gary. How dare she stand in fro
nt of that nice video EAA took of me
while I was lost over the Hurricane Wood.
Mike C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Ac2YD2LNs&feature=youtu.be
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Subject: | Motor Mount Questions |
Just finished my landing gear/tailwheel and getting ready to build the
motor mount for a C-85. First, are there any motor mount jigs in the
central Florida area that I could borrow? Secondly, are there any tips
that you might share, such as building it longer for W&B considerations
or starter clearance (wife requirement)? I appreciate anything you can
pass along.
Tim White
Ocklawaha. Fl
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Subject: | motor mounts available here |
http://www.cozygirrrl.com/aircraftparts.htm
They will make them longer than standard length if you want, just specify.
It only took me about 2 hours to make a motor mount jig. You can build off
set into it as well.
Mike C.
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Maybe the Hurtgen Wood?
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC] (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Sent: Fri, Feb 22, 2013 9:53 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: BFR review
Martha King really got to me in that video Gary. How dare she stand in fro
nt of that nice video EAA took of me
while I was lost over the Hurricane Wood.
Mike C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Ac2YD2LNs&feature=youtu.be
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Subject: | Re: motor mounts available here |
We invested a lot of time in the jig in order to make it adjustable.
It can accommodate different firewall widths and distances from the
firewall.
Chrissi & Randi
_www.CozyGirrrl.com_ (http://www.cozygirrrl.com/)
ClickBonds 10/$7.50
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
Chairwomen, Sun-N-Fun Engine Workshop
In a message dated 2/22/2013 1:48:52 P.M. Central Standard Time,
michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov writes:
_http://www.cozygirrrl.com/aircraftparts.htm_
(http://www.cozygirrrl.com/aircraftparts.htm)
They will make them longer than standard length if you want, just specify.
It only took me about 2 hours to make a motor mount jig. You can build
offset into it as well.
Mike C.
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Aha---some good WWI facts there Dan. I always thought it was Hurricane W
ood.
Well actually it was over New Holstein. The New Holstein wood but thanks t
o you I know know
where Redford said he was flying!
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BFR review
Maybe the Hurtgen Wood?
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC] (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Sent: Fri, Feb 22, 2013 9:53 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: BFR review
Martha King really got to me in that video Gary. How dare she stand in fro
nt of that nice video EAA took of me
while I was lost over the Hurricane Wood.
Mike C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Ac2YD2LNs&feature=youtu.be
" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
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Subject: | Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? |
To All,
It has been a while since anyone has discussed basic stuff. And it has been a while
since I posted anything about what I had been doing through the winter, so
I thought I would do both. There is an old joke that asks "How do you make Holy
Water? Answer: You boil the Hell out of it." Well, making cap strips is similar,
except you steam the H*** out of it.
I am a basic kind of guy. I am not a fancy builder who can build great looking
steam cabinets, or other great looking and great working tools. And I suspect
that there are other, similar builders out there. So I guess I am trying to let
other builders out there know that you don't have to be a master woodworker
to build this airplane (although there are many out there in this forum who do
fit that description. Just not me).
So here is how I have been bending my cap strips. You can see my fancy steamer.
It is a cheapo, Walmart teapot, with the whistler removed. In its place I stuck
a length of PVC pipe with some JB Weld to (sort of) seal the joint. I just
heated it and boiled/steamed the cap strips for about an hour. I then put them
in the cap strip jig made from a 4X4 post. I paid a cabinet shop $10.00 to cut
the post to the arc that I marked. Why? Because they had a much better band
saw than I did and could cut the jig much more accurately than I could. I like
the way that the nose of the cap strip fits securely in the slot, and then all
I need are a couple clamps to hold things overnight.
It ain't rocket science, and I hope that I motivate someone to get started on their
wing ribs.
P.S. I loaded the pictures in the order I wanted, but they came out backwards.
So "the last shall be first, and the first shall be last." You get thi idea.
Also, in case you are wondering what the holes in the cap strip jig are for, they
were my initial idea that I could use plastic ties to hold the cap strips.
Bad Idea. can't pull the ties tight enough. Clamps work better. Not all ideas
are good ones!
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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Subject: | Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? |
...or just soak overnight in cold water.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jarheadpilot82
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 3:44 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water?
--> <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
To All,
It has been a while since anyone has discussed basic stuff. And it has been
a while since I posted anything about what I had been doing through the
winter, so I thought I would do both. There is an old joke that asks "How do
you make Holy Water? Answer: You boil the Hell out of it." Well, making cap
strips is similar, except you steam the H*** out of it.
I am a basic kind of guy. I am not a fancy builder who can build great
looking steam cabinets, or other great looking and great working tools. And
I suspect that there are other, similar builders out there. So I guess I am
trying to let other builders out there know that you don't have to be a
master woodworker to build this airplane (although there are many out there
in this forum who do fit that description. Just not me).
So here is how I have been bending my cap strips. You can see my fancy
steamer. It is a cheapo, Walmart teapot, with the whistler removed. In its
place I stuck a length of PVC pipe with some JB Weld to (sort of) seal the
joint. I just heated it and boiled/steamed the cap strips for about an hour.
I then put them in the cap strip jig made from a 4X4 post. I paid a cabinet
shop $10.00 to cut the post to the arc that I marked. Why? Because they had
a much better band saw than I did and could cut the jig much more accurately
than I could. I like the way that the nose of the cap strip fits securely in
the slot, and then all I need are a couple clamps to hold things overnight.
It ain't rocket science, and I hope that I motivate someone to get started
on their wing ribs.
P.S. I loaded the pictures in the order I wanted, but they came out
backwards. So "the last shall be first, and the first shall be last." You
get thi idea.
Also, in case you are wondering what the holes in the cap strip jig are for,
they were my initial idea that I could use plastic ties to hold the cap
strips. Bad Idea. can't pull the ties tight enough. Clamps work better. Not
all ideas are good ones!
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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Subject: | Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? |
Tried that. Did not work. Snapped every time.
I am building my wings using the Godforsaken Riblett airfoil and there may be a
little more curve in the upper cap strip than the original Pietenpol air foil.
I am not sure, but That's why I steamed them.
Thanks for commenting, though. I am just trying to motivate some other builders
to get going on their wing ribs.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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Subject: | Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? |
Steam is more fun, I mean we're mostly GUYS on this list. Cold water,
that's kind of, well, basic and boring. :)
do not archive
On Feb 22, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
> >
>
> ...or just soak overnight in cold water.
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> jarheadpilot82
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 3:44 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy
> Water?
>
> --> <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
>
> To All,
>
> It has been a while since anyone has discussed basic stuff. And it
> has been
> a while since I posted anything about what I had been doing through
> the
> winter, so I thought I would do both. There is an old joke that asks
> "How do
> you make Holy Water? Answer: You boil the Hell out of it." Well,
> making cap
> strips is similar, except you steam the H*** out of it.
>
> I am a basic kind of guy. I am not a fancy builder who can build great
> looking steam cabinets, or other great looking and great working
> tools. And
> I suspect that there are other, similar builders out there. So I
> guess I am
> trying to let other builders out there know that you don't have to
> be a
> master woodworker to build this airplane (although there are many
> out there
> in this forum who do fit that description. Just not me).
>
> So here is how I have been bending my cap strips. You can see my fancy
> steamer. It is a cheapo, Walmart teapot, with the whistler removed.
> In its
> place I stuck a length of PVC pipe with some JB Weld to (sort of)
> seal the
> joint. I just heated it and boiled/steamed the cap strips for about
> an hour.
> I then put them in the cap strip jig made from a 4X4 post. I paid a
> cabinet
> shop $10.00 to cut the post to the arc that I marked. Why? Because
> they had
> a much better band saw than I did and could cut the jig much more
> accurately
> than I could. I like the way that the nose of the cap strip fits
> securely in
> the slot, and then all I need are a couple clamps to hold things
> overnight.
>
> It ain't rocket science, and I hope that I motivate someone to get
> started
> on their wing ribs.
>
> P.S. I loaded the pictures in the order I wanted, but they came out
> backwards. So "the last shall be first, and the first shall be
> last." You
> get thi idea.
> Also, in case you are wondering what the holes in the cap strip jig
> are for,
> they were my initial idea that I could use plastic ties to hold the
> cap
> strips. Bad Idea. can't pull the ties tight enough. Clamps work
> better. Not
> all ideas are good ones!
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=394837#394837
>
>
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>
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Subject: | Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? |
I threw mine in the hot tub overnight. Worked just fine.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kip and Beth
Gardner
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy
Water?
<kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
Steam is more fun, I mean we're mostly GUYS on this list. Cold water,
that's kind of, well, basic and boring. :)
do not archive
On Feb 22, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
> >
>
> ...or just soak overnight in cold water.
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> jarheadpilot82
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 3:44 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy
> Water?
>
> --> <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
>
> To All,
>
> It has been a while since anyone has discussed basic stuff. And it
> has been
> a while since I posted anything about what I had been doing through
> the
> winter, so I thought I would do both. There is an old joke that asks
> "How do
> you make Holy Water? Answer: You boil the Hell out of it." Well,
> making cap
> strips is similar, except you steam the H*** out of it.
>
> I am a basic kind of guy. I am not a fancy builder who can build great
> looking steam cabinets, or other great looking and great working
> tools. And
> I suspect that there are other, similar builders out there. So I
> guess I am
> trying to let other builders out there know that you don't have to
> be a
> master woodworker to build this airplane (although there are many
> out there
> in this forum who do fit that description. Just not me).
>
> So here is how I have been bending my cap strips. You can see my fancy
> steamer. It is a cheapo, Walmart teapot, with the whistler removed.
> In its
> place I stuck a length of PVC pipe with some JB Weld to (sort of)
> seal the
> joint. I just heated it and boiled/steamed the cap strips for about
> an hour.
> I then put them in the cap strip jig made from a 4X4 post. I paid a
> cabinet
> shop $10.00 to cut the post to the arc that I marked. Why? Because
> they had
> a much better band saw than I did and could cut the jig much more
> accurately
> than I could. I like the way that the nose of the cap strip fits
> securely in
> the slot, and then all I need are a couple clamps to hold things
> overnight.
>
> It ain't rocket science, and I hope that I motivate someone to get
> started
> on their wing ribs.
>
> P.S. I loaded the pictures in the order I wanted, but they came out
> backwards. So "the last shall be first, and the first shall be
> last." You
> get thi idea.
> Also, in case you are wondering what the holes in the cap strip jig
> are for,
> they were my initial idea that I could use plastic ties to hold the
> cap
> strips. Bad Idea. can't pull the ties tight enough. Clamps work
> better. Not
> all ideas are good ones!
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=394837#394837
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? |
What Gary Boothe said. I borrowed my wife's steamer at first and had poor luck.
Started soaking in in a 3" PVC pipe for a couple of days. It was big enough to
soak several at a time. My bending/drying jig would hold 6 at a time. Another
thing I did was I put the wet sticks in front of a fan forced electric heater
real close. That made them retain their bend a lot better. Sort of heat treated
the sticks.
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Jerry Dotson
First flight June 16,2012
Flying in phase 2
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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Subject: | Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? |
I thought about trying that, Jack, but didn't know if the chlorine would have any
effect on the wood.
Also, I wanted to mention if anyone wants to borrow my upper and lower cap strip
jigs for the Riblett airfoil, I would be happy to loan them. Just let me know.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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Subject: | Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? |
I too made the Dread Riblett ribs and found that you also need to put a little
bend in the lower capstrips as well as the uppers. On somebody else's suggestion,
I soaked mine overnight in a mixture of ammonia and water. 2 to 1 water
to ammonia??? In any event that worked reasonably well but there is a trick to
putting them in the jig to avoid splitting. I found that if you put the front
in the jig and them work your way back, pressing the wood down onto the jig
as it's bending, it split a lot less rather than putting one end in the jig and
grabbing the other end to force it down over the curve. YMMV.
Dave
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Subject: | Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? |
Dave,
I maybe should have explained better for the non-Riblett users. You are correct
that the lower cap strip has a pretty healthy bend as well as the upper cap strip.
I have separate jig for each. And my mileage was similar, in that using
my hand to help the bending as opposed to just grabbing the tail of the cap strip
and bending from the end made for much less splitting.
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Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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Subject: | Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? |
See? Now that's a GUY approach to getting the job done.
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On Feb 22, 2013, at 8:23 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
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> I threw mine in the hot tub overnight. Worked just fine.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kip
> and Beth
> Gardner
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:43 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> Holy
> Water?
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> <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
>
> Steam is more fun, I mean we're mostly GUYS on this list. Cold water,
> that's kind of, well, basic and boring. :)
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> On Feb 22, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
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>>>
>>
>> ...or just soak overnight in cold water.
>>
>> Gary Boothe
>> NX308MB
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> jarheadpilot82
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 3:44 PM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy
>> Water?
>>
>> --> <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
>>
>> To All,
>>
>> It has been a while since anyone has discussed basic stuff. And it
>> has been
>> a while since I posted anything about what I had been doing through
>> the
>> winter, so I thought I would do both. There is an old joke that asks
>> "How do
>> you make Holy Water? Answer: You boil the Hell out of it." Well,
>> making cap
>> strips is similar, except you steam the H*** out of it.
>>
>> I am a basic kind of guy. I am not a fancy builder who can build
>> great
>> looking steam cabinets, or other great looking and great working
>> tools. And
>> I suspect that there are other, similar builders out there. So I
>> guess I am
>> trying to let other builders out there know that you don't have to
>> be a
>> master woodworker to build this airplane (although there are many
>> out there
>> in this forum who do fit that description. Just not me).
>>
>> So here is how I have been bending my cap strips. You can see my
>> fancy
>> steamer. It is a cheapo, Walmart teapot, with the whistler removed.
>> In its
>> place I stuck a length of PVC pipe with some JB Weld to (sort of)
>> seal the
>> joint. I just heated it and boiled/steamed the cap strips for about
>> an hour.
>> I then put them in the cap strip jig made from a 4X4 post. I paid a
>> cabinet
>> shop $10.00 to cut the post to the arc that I marked. Why? Because
>> they had
>> a much better band saw than I did and could cut the jig much more
>> accurately
>> than I could. I like the way that the nose of the cap strip fits
>> securely in
>> the slot, and then all I need are a couple clamps to hold things
>> overnight.
>>
>> It ain't rocket science, and I hope that I motivate someone to get
>> started
>> on their wing ribs.
>>
>> P.S. I loaded the pictures in the order I wanted, but they came out
>> backwards. So "the last shall be first, and the first shall be
>> last." You
>> get thi idea.
>> Also, in case you are wondering what the holes in the cap strip jig
>> are for,
>> they were my initial idea that I could use plastic ties to hold the
>> cap
>> strips. Bad Idea. can't pull the ties tight enough. Clamps work
>> better. Not
>> all ideas are good ones!
>>
>> --------
>> Semper Fi,
>>
>> Terry Hand
>> Athens, GA
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Subject: | Re: Why Is Steaming Cap Strips Like Making Holy Water? |
Nice idea posting some of the basics like this... I am not only building the dreaded
Riblett airfoil, I'm building the FATTER one, the Riblett GA-30-613.5 version
(as Harry Riblett would continue to correct me as we discussed the airfoil
on the phone one day...).
I cut a profile of the modified airfoil with an exaggerated bend on the top and
bottom of the airfoil with a CNC machine, and put some holes in it for pins to
be placed that held the bungie cord "clamps" I used. (Pictures if I get a chance...).
Here's the "high-tech", harder than it has to be (but I did it anyway and that's
why it's taking me years to build the plane") method I used for soaking the
cap strips on the ribs I have so far:
I built a soaking tube out of PVC pipe, capped on end, and put a slip cap on the
other with a vacuum tube fitting on it. I put an "o" ring in the cap and filled
the tube 1/2 way with water. Dropped 6-8 capstrips in, sealed the tube and
flipped on the vacuum pump for an hour or so. Pressure sucked the water into
the wood a bit more than just soaking, and I haven't had a strip crack yet putting
it on the bending jig.
But, a bathtub, hot tub, or just soaking it overnight is easier and works as well
I think. But the steam kettle-PVC system looks cool!
My .02....
Mark
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You know Mike, you outta get the award for "best ambassador of Pietenpol's" in
short clip movies, but I am not sure the Academy grants such an award. Perhaps
we can suggest one?
Regardless, how nice it must be to have such a recognizable representation of an
iconic plane. And, to have helped so many follow suit!
Mark
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