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1. 05:08 AM - Re: first airplane ride (Barry Davis)
2. 06:13 AM - Re: a view from the cockpit (aerocarjake)
3. 07:08 AM - Re: first airplane ride (Gary Boothe)
4. 07:25 AM - Re: first airplane ride (Jerry Dotson)
5. 07:30 AM - Re: first airplane ride (kevinpurtee)
6. 07:34 AM - Re: Pietenpol safety (Gary Boothe)
7. 07:44 AM - Re: Pietenpol safety (tools)
8. 07:59 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol safety (Gary Boothe)
9. 08:13 AM - Re: Re: first airplane ride (Gardiner Mason)
10. 08:50 AM - Re: Aileron Hinge (John Hall)
11. 08:53 AM - Wooden landing gear axle (Larry V)
12. 09:02 AM - Re: Wooden landing gear axle (Larry V)
13. 09:14 AM - Re: Wooden landing gear axle (Gary Boothe)
14. 09:44 AM - Re: Re: Aileron Hinge (Dick N)
15. 10:21 AM - Hat Box, Glove Box (cjborsuk)
16. 10:23 AM - Re: Re: Once around the patch (Ray Krause)
17. 10:49 AM - Re: Hacksaw chisels (Rick Schreiber)
18. 10:56 AM - Re: Hat Box, Glove Box (Gary Boothe)
19. 11:13 AM - Re: Hat Box, Glove Box (cjborsuk)
20. 11:48 AM - Re: Hat Box, Glove Box (nightmare)
21. 11:56 AM - Re: Hat Box, Glove Box (nightmare)
22. 12:41 PM - Re: Re: Aileron Hinge (norm)
23. 12:41 PM - Re: Wooden landing gear axle (Jack Phillips)
24. 12:55 PM - Re: Hat Box, Glove Box (Jack Phillips)
25. 01:52 PM - Re: Hat Box, Glove Box (cjborsuk)
26. 01:58 PM - Re: Hat Box, Glove Box (cjborsuk)
27. 01:58 PM - Westcoast piet (Douwe Blumberg)
28. 03:50 PM - Re: Hat Box, Glove Box (nightmare)
29. 10:12 PM - Re: Wooden landing gear axle (Larry V)
30. 10:50 PM - Re: Re: Once around the patch (Chris)
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| Subject: | first airplane ride |
Good one!
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 6:36 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: first airplane ride
Okay, one more flying video. This one is 4:25, it's not a Piet, but the
feel is very reminiscent of why we love our low and slow flying and
introducing people to flying this way. And for "Ice Ice" Mikee- don't
bother... this one has music and we know you don't like that ;o)
http://www.youtube.com/embed/w8JU-1ZrRAg?feature=player_embedded
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
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| Subject: | Re: a view from the cockpit |
i LIKE it......!! An inspirational video - for when I return to Seattle... (Still
working estate issue and moving mom to a new place..... )
The Pietenpol aspect of this is that some of DAD's tools will now be used to construct
MY piet - to respect and honor his contribution to my project/life....
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | first airplane ride |
Love it when she claps!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Davis
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 5:12 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: first airplane ride
Good one!
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 6:36 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: first airplane ride
Okay, one more flying video. This one is 4:25, it's not a Piet, but the
feel is very reminiscent of why we love our low and slow flying and
introducing people to flying this way. And for "Ice Ice" Mikee- don't
bother... this one has music and we know you don't like that ;o)
http://www.youtube.com/embed/w8JU-1ZrRAg?feature=player_embedded
do not archive
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: first airplane ride |
What a beautiful child and a great video. I turned the sound off. I'm kinda like
Mikee on that..... I like wind and engine sounds. Would love to have heard what
she was saying.
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Jerry Dotson
First flight June 16,2012
Flying in phase 2
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: first airplane ride |
Wow. Brought tears to my eyes.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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| Subject: | Pietenpol safety |
"...homemade thin chisels made from hacksaw blades..."??
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Schreiber
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol safety
--> < <mailto:lmforge@earthlink.net> lmforge@earthlink.net>
On 3/2/2013 9:03 AM, Gary Boothe wrote:
> Rick,
>
> You bring up an excellent point! On the side of every Pietenpol should
> be a graphic similar to the attached!! I'm afraid the same thing could
> happen to me...
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
Gary,
Jim told me that when he hooked up the original fuel tank shut off controls
the fuselage was upside down on saw horses. It was not much of a problem too
crawl underneath and reach up to the valve. It was an entirely different
story when the fuselage was on its gear. Before I installed the firewall I
tried to reach forward to touch the fuel line attachment and the valve while
standing on a ladder along side the fuselage. I quickly realized that this
wasn't going to work, my arms weren't long enough. I remember seeing a photo
that Walt Evans had posted sometime ago of his firewall with the access
port, so I always had this idea in the back of my mind.
Being a woodworker, I had some homemade thin chisels made from hacksaw
blades. I used these to carefully cut out the access hole. The wood cover is
actually the same piece I cut out with the same grain orientation. There
really is no kerf cut so the fit was so tight I had to sand slightly to
allow for the varnish and wood expansion. As I said the plug is barely
visible from inside the cockpit except for the small nutplates that secure
the cover.
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol safety |
http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=17856.0
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol safety |
Interesting....thanks!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tools
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 7:44 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol safety
http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=17856.0
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| Subject: | Re: first airplane ride |
hi kevin, i haven't seen you in a while on the list. how is your rebuild
going? will you be able for brodhead this summer? cheers, gardiner mason
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>wrote:
> kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>
> Wow. Brought tears to my eyes.
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> Rebuilding NX899KP
> Austin/San Marcos, TX
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Hinge |
Hello,
I am new in this field and I need help finding the best supplier for my hinges. I need these models: http://www.spep.com/Blog/StainlessSteelFootmanLoops.html and http://www.spep.com/Blog/Stainless-Steel-Strap-Hinges.html, but they don't sell to individuals, it's a $150 minimum order!
Does anyone know of a reputable and reasonably priced site?
Any help will be welcome :)
Thanks,
John
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| Subject: | Wooden landing gear axle |
Thanks for the comments on my photos of my piet project, subject motivation, that
was well appreciated. I am trying to work out my work schedule so I can make
it to Brodhead this year and meet some of you .
I was wondering if any one could tell me the space between the bottom v of wooden
axle and the brake on the wheel? I am going to cut the 1 1/2 inch tubing and
do not want to cut it to short, I dont know how much room to leave for the
bungee cord. Your comments are appreciated.
Thanks Larry V
+
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wheel >I-------V--------------V-------I < wheel
[space] centre [space]
front view of landing gear
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| Subject: | Re: Wooden landing gear axle |
That illustration I put on the bottom for front view of landing gear did not centre
properly when I posted it. I should of attached a picture.
Larry V
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| Subject: | Wooden landing gear axle |
Larry,
I think that a lot has to do with your brake design, type of wheels, and
anti-rotation device, but, if you put the ties on the inside, you will have
two wraps of 1/2" bungee on the outside. I would think that 1 1/2 - 2" would
be sufficient.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry V
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 8:53 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wooden landing gear axle
--> <larryvangerven@hotmail.com>
Thanks for the comments on my photos of my piet project, subject motivation,
that was well appreciated. I am trying to work out my work schedule so I can
make it to Brodhead this year and meet some of you .
I was wondering if any one could tell me the space between the bottom v of
wooden axle and the brake on the wheel? I am going to cut the 1 1/2 inch
tubing and do not want to cut it to short, I dont know how much room to
leave for the bungee cord. Your comments are appreciated.
Thanks Larry V
+
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wheel >I-------V--------------V-------I < wheel
[space] centre [space]
front view of landing gear
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Hinge |
You will find them at SNF, B&B aircraft supply carries them up to 6' length.
See you there
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hall" <tools@hubcitygears.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 10:50 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinge
>
> Hello,
>
> I am new in this field and I need help finding the best supplier for my
> hinges. I need these models:
> http://www.spep.com/Blog/StainlessSteelFootmanLoops.html and
> http://www.spep.com/Blog/Stainless-Steel-Strap-Hinges.html, but they don't
> sell to individuals, it's a $150 minimum order!
> Does anyone know of a reputable and reasonably priced site?
> Any help will be welcome :)
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Hat Box, Glove Box |
Work continues...
Added glove box to front cockpit. Overlay door for the hat box. The back of the
instrument panel slides in at the bottom.
Chuck
989CB
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| Subject: | Re: Once around the patch |
Great way to spend a day, better than coming to Colusa! What a beautiful plane,
love the struts.
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 2, 2013, at 6:31 PM, "echobravo4" <eab4@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Awesome!
> That's great Gary
>
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> Earl Brown
>
> I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where
I intended to be.
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| Subject: | Re: Hacksaw chisels |
On 3/3/2013 9:34 AM, Gary Boothe wrote:
>
> /"...homemade thin chisels made from hacksaw blades..."/??
>
> Gary Boothe
>
> NX308MB
>
>
Gary,
Tools sent a link to a muzzleloading rifle site that explains how to
make these chisels. Attached is a photo of some of the ones I have made.
I have used these chisels to make flintlock rifles and other projects
where I need to do precise inletting into wood. I also used them on the
Pietenpol to inlet my rudder and elevator hinges. The set I have are
nothing fancy and they have lasted me for almost 45 years.
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, IN
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| Subject: | Hat Box, Glove Box |
Interesting door and hinge ideas, Chuck...very nice work! You could fit a 10
gallon hat in that hat box, for when you fly down to see Kevin!
I'm perplexed by your controls, though...maybe it's just a weird view...
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjborsuk
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 10:18 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hat Box, Glove Box
Work continues...
Added glove box to front cockpit. Overlay door for the hat box. The back of
the instrument panel slides in at the bottom.
Chuck
989CB
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| Subject: | Re: Hat Box, Glove Box |
Gary,
No controls in the front and tabs added to rudder bar. Otherwise standard.
Chuck
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| Subject: | Re: Hat Box, Glove Box |
Beautiful work Chuck
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | Re: Hat Box, Glove Box |
Since you are at this particular stage, could you post a pic of the lower front
of your fuselage (fuselage). Im not at that stage yet. But little confused on
how the lower brackets are attached to hold the bottom and lower sides together.
A picture would sure help me .
Thanks; Paul
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Hinge |
West Marine inc. online has them
--- On Sun, 3/3/13, John Hall <tools@hubcitygears.com> wrote:
From: John Hall <tools@hubcitygears.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinge
Hello,
I am new in this field and I need help finding the best supplier for my hin
ges. I need these models: http://www.spep.com/Blog/StainlessSteelFootmanLoo
ps.html and http://www.spep.com/Blog/Stainless-Steel-Strap-Hinges.html, but
they don't sell to individuals, it's a $150 minimum order!
Does anyone know of a reputable and reasonably priced site?
Any help will be welcome :)
Thanks,
John
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le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Wooden landing gear axle |
Larry, on mine, the forward end of the V-block (which is the closest to the
brake disc) is 2.50" inboard of the brake disc. I wouldn't want it any
closer because even though the bungee cord tends to lay pretty close to the
V and leaves an inch or so gap between the V and the brake, you need ALL of
that space and more to wrap the bungees.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry V
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 11:53 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wooden landing gear axle
Thanks for the comments on my photos of my piet project, subject motivation,
that was well appreciated. I am trying to work out my work schedule so I can
make it to Brodhead this year and meet some of you .
I was wondering if any one could tell me the space between the bottom v of
wooden axle and the brake on the wheel? I am going to cut the 1 1/2 inch
tubing and do not want to cut it to short, I dont know how much room to
leave for the bungee cord. Your comments are appreciated.
Thanks Larry V
+
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[space] centre [space]
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| Subject: | Hat Box, Glove Box |
Beautiful work as usual, Chuck. One of the best things I ever did was take
you up on the most perfect morning for flying I've ever seen (glassy smooth
air, calm winds and 100 mile visibility) and getting you bitten by the
Pietenpol Bug.
Not that I can take credit for your interest - you were already interested
in building a Pietenpol before that morning, but I like to think that
somehow I gave you the nudge to get started building.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjborsuk
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 1:18 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hat Box, Glove Box
Work continues...
Added glove box to front cockpit. Overlay door for the hat box. The back of
the instrument panel slides in at the bottom.
Chuck
989CB
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| Subject: | Re: Hat Box, Glove Box |
Thanks Jack. You hit it on the head. The interest was there, but there is no way
I would have jumped in without that ride. You along with a number of others
on this list have been true ambassadors of the Pietenpol. We all thank you. For
some new to the list, I have included a link I found when searching for info
about the Pietenpol. There are also two old newsletters from our EAA chapter
with good stories from Jack's experiences flying his Piet. These are how I first
discovered Jack was living close by. I gave him a call out of the blue and
he graciously invited to take a ride.
Good reading. Enjoy!
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~kdebord/pietcon.html
Chuck
989CB
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| Subject: | Re: Hat Box, Glove Box |
Paul,
Do these help?
Chuck
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Hey Chris,
We're all extremely grateful for the work you've put into westcoastpiet. It
has been of untold value to the Pietenpol community in providing help,
direction and above all. motivation.
Keep up the good work and thanks!!!
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Hat Box, Glove Box |
Thanks Chuck. That does help. It seems odd that its not designed so the fitting
ties together the bottom wood 1x . But I guess the motor mount does a good job
keeping the forward fuselage nice and solid. Thanks.Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Wooden landing gear axle |
Gary and Jack thank you for the information.
Take care
Larry V
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| Subject: | Re: Once around the patch |
Wasn't so good for me. I missed out on seeing your sky scout, enjoying both
yours and Gary's company and I had to mow the lawn because I was here.
Bummer
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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Great way to spend a day, better than coming to Colusa! What a beautiful
plane, love the struts.
Ray Krause
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