---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/05/13: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:42 AM - Aileron Horn Question (chase143(at)aol.com) 2. 08:14 AM - Re: Fly-in Crestview,FL (wlachney) 3. 08:56 AM - Aileron Horn Question (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]) 4. 09:02 AM - Re: Aileron Horn Question (Jack Phillips) 5. 09:10 AM - Re: Aileron Horn Question (Michael Perez) 6. 10:34 AM - Re: Aileron Horn Question (Jim Boyer) 7. 11:02 AM - Re: Aileron Horn Question (Gary Boothe) 8. 11:34 AM - Progress Report (kevinpurtee) 9. 12:21 PM - Re: Progress Report (echobravo4) 10. 12:27 PM - Re: Progress Report (TOM STINEMETZE) 11. 12:38 PM - Re: Progress Report (Jim Boyer) 12. 03:51 PM - Re: Aileron Horn Question (chase143(at)aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:54 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Horn Question From: "chase143(at)aol.com" I'm finishing up welding my aileron horns (to plans), getting ready to attach, and was wondering what folks have done (if anything) with the front opening (where it attaches to the aileron spar) in regards to preventing water intrusion? The same goes for the cable attachment point at the end? Do most try to make the horns air tight, or leave open and use the lower cable attachment as a drain in case water does get in? Thanks, Steve Owings, MD -------- Steve www.mypiet.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395677#395677 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/rt_aileron_horn_122.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:56 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fly-in Crestview,FL From: "wlachney" I see that you are running an 0-235 and are in Fl, would like to share notes. Walt Lachney 863-255-7533 wlachany@cenyc.com -------- Building a Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395679#395679 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:56:36 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Horn Question Hi Steve, Excellent question about the openings in the horns. I left mine open and just made sure that I sprayed a good amount of zinc chromate primer (spray can) in that opening and then rotated the horn in my hands until the paint was dripping out the ends. The nice part is that most all of our Pietenpols are hangared (or will be once completed) so the only real rain they will see is overnight at a fly in. I rather like having the openings in the aileron horns so they can dry out on a nice, hot sunny day following an overnight thunderstorm at an air show or fly-in. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:02:23 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Horn Question Ditto what Mike said. The only thing I did different was to use epoxy primer rather than zinc-chromate. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 11:56 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Horn Question Partners, LLC]" Hi Steve, Excellent question about the openings in the horns. I left mine open and just made sure that I sprayed a good amount of zinc chromate primer (spray can) in that opening and then rotated the horn in my hands until the paint was dripping out the ends. The nice part is that most all of our Pietenpols are hangared (or will be once completed) so the only real rain they will see is overnight at a fly in. I rather like having the openings in the aileron horns so they can dry out on a nice, hot sunny day following an overnight thunderstorm at an air show or fly-in. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:28 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Horn Question Steve, I was able to seal around the horns with a patch. A little Ekobond on the horn and a little fabric patch up the sides some sealed them nicely. (Elevator horn in picture, but all horns were done the same. Only time will tell if they will stay that way, the fabric may separate from the horn over the years. (Weather) I would imagine whatever water finds it's way into the horn, will find it's way out through the bottom cable connection hole, as you mentioned. Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:05 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Horn Question Hi Steve, As usual Mike and Jack have the most experience and the best answers (my opinion anyway). But Allen Rudolfs Piet is still at Brodhead and I believe it was built in 1934 with a 1932 model A engine and is still being flown, I don't how much as Allen has passed on, but I have seen it several times and it looks like it still has all its original control horns and parts. Its only 79 years old so wouldn't worry to much about the opening in the horns. Cheers, Jim B. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:02:22 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Horn Question From: Gary Boothe Empirical evidence wins!! Gary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Jim Boyer wrote: > Hi Steve, > > As usual Mike and Jack have the most experience and the best answers (my o pinion anyway). > > > > But Allen Rudolfs Piet is still at Brodhead and I believe it was built in 1 934 with a 1932 model A engine and is still being flown, I don't how much as Allen has passed on, but I have seen it several times and it looks like it s till has all its original control horns and parts. Its only 79 years old so w ouldn't worry to much about the opening in the horns. > > Cheers, > > Jim B. > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:34:16 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress Report From: "kevinpurtee" Tail surfaces are repaired. Engine ran at Corvair College 24 in South Carolina in November. Fuel tank is complete. Left wing panel woodwork is complete. Framing up right wing now. I've recovered to pretty near 100% - flying for work and pleasure, running, etc. I'll miss Brodhead, Gardiner. I've got work obligations and, frankly, Shelley & I are about to get furloughed during the sequester. That's a big chunk of income. Breaks my heart to miss Brodhead. Really wanted to see everyone and wanted to have the chance to talk to people about the accident. I did a thorough write-up for the BPA newsletter, though. I think Doc will publish that in April. That'll have to suffice until 2014. -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee Rebuilding NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395695#395695 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/0_wing_panel_3_116.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/0_wing_panel_2_338.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/0_wing_panel_1_171.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/0_fuel_tank_190.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:21:40 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Progress Report From: "echobravo4" Looks great Kevin! You're making a lot of progress Sure gonna miss you and Shelly at Brodhead! -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395697#395697 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:27:45 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress Report Way to go Axel! Your work looks like you work in wood for a living. Hang in there with the furlough thing, its got to get better. I will miss you at Brodhead as it appears this may be the first year that I will actually get to attend. Tom Stinemetze McPherson, KS. >>> "kevinpurtee" 3/5/2013 1:33 PM >>> Tail surfaces are repaired. Engine ran at Corvair College 24 in South Carolina in November. Fuel tank is complete. Left wing panel woodwork is complete. Framing up right wing now. I've recovered to pretty near 100% - flying for work and pleasure, running, etc. I'll miss Brodhead, Gardiner. I've got work obligations and, frankly, Shelley & I are about to get furloughed during the sequester. That's a big chunk of income. Breaks my heart to miss Brodhead. Really wanted to see everyone and wanted to have the chance to talk to people about the accident. I did a thorough write-up for the BPA newsletter, though. I think Doc will publish that in April. That'll have to suffice until 2014. -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee Rebuilding NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395695#395695 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/0_wing_panel_3_116.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/0_wing_panel_2_338.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/0_wing_panel_1_171.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/0_fuel_tank_190.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:38:14 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress Report "Breaks my heart to miss Brodhead. =C2-Really wanted to see everyone and wanted to have the chance to talk to people about the accident. =C2-I did a thorough write-up for the BPA newsletter, though. =C2-I think Doc will publish that in April. =C2-That'll have to suffice until 2014." Hi Kevin and Shelley; Really wanted to see you guys again and talk about Piets. Good to see all t he progress you are making in FBG's renewal though. I am about ready to ass emble my wings and it was good to see your photos; very instructive. Keep up the good work on FBG and yourself to 100%. Hopefully see you before long. Jim B. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:51:03 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Horn Question From: "chase143(at)aol.com" Thanks all! Excellent feedback! Absolutely Priceless! -------- Steve www.mypiet.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395705#395705 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.