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Fri 03/08/13


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 06:28 AM - Re: Sky Scout fuselage (Bill Church)
     2. 06:43 AM - Re: Corvair cowl (caldwrl)
     3. 01:08 PM - Oil Temp & Pressure Gages (tkreiner)
     4. 01:14 PM - Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages (Gary Boothe)
     5. 01:31 PM - Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages (bradandlinda tds.net)
     6. 01:51 PM - Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages (Rick)
     7. 02:35 PM - Re: Re: Corvair cowl (Gardiner)
     8. 02:35 PM - Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages (kevinpurtee)
     9. 03:18 PM - Re: Re: Corvair cowl (helspersew@aol.com)
    10. 04:21 PM - Re: Re: Corvair cowl (Jack)
    11. 04:53 PM - Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages (Jerry Dotson)
    12. 07:28 PM - Jim Boyer's 1st start-up (Gary Boothe)
    13. 07:43 PM - Re: Jim Boyer's 1st start-up (Rick Schreiber)
    14. 07:45 PM - Re: Re: Corvair cowl (Rick Schreiber)
    15. 08:00 PM - Re: Jim Boyer's 1st start-up (Michael Groah)
    16. 08:03 PM - Re: Jim Boyer's 1st start-up (Ray Krause)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:28:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sky Scout fuselage
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    Rick, I've only seen the FGM version of the Sky Scout plans, so this is only speculation, but I doubt that the other version is drawn to suit the lighter Continental engines. I bet the plans he got from the Pietenpol family were drawn before the Continental engines were even built. My guess is that the differences are akin to the difference between the FGM version and the Orrin Hoopman version of the Air Camper plans. The Hoopman plans are identified as the "improved" Air Camper, which gives a little bit more room for pilot and passenger. I would suggest checking the dates on both sets of plans, and go with the later version (most likely the plans from the Pietenpol family). Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395886#395886


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    Time: 06:43:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Corvair cowl
    From: "caldwrl" <caldwrl@etex.net>
    Rick, It appears we are at a similar phase. I too, have just completed my nose bowl and have been fitting cardboard patterns to it the last few sessions in the hanger. I built in flanges on my sheet steel firewall, so I will try to use that as my attachment system. I may have to add the angle tabs as backups. I am not satisfied with my placement of the intake on the nose bowl so I am considering a mod that will use a framed opening to cover the one I molded in. Purely and aesthetic thing. I am attaching a couple of images that show my work to date. Also an image that shows my intended change to the intake. I plan to make the intake functional, but will need to route the flow back to the carb via a scat tube arrangement TBD. I was fortunate to be able to stop off at Han's home and discuss his build. I am also attaching an image I took while there... I'm sure Hans won't mind. Feel free to contact me off line if you would like to expand on any facet of this subject and I will do the same. I would like to see pics of your progress... thanks in advance. -------- Robert Caldwell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395888#395888 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc02241a_154.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc02238_109.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc01732_101.jpg


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    Time: 01:08:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages
    From: "tkreiner" <tkreiner@gmail.com>
    Guys, I'm collecting stuff for my engine, and I would like input on the type of gages to add for Oil Temp & Pressure. I've seen many panels using the tubing type gages, but not many (or any?) using electrical gages with senders. Since I will have a full electrical system, I can use either. There have heard some horror stories about having a leak in the cockpit, and that's one concern with the tubing type, and maybe the weight factor is something else to consider... Not sure which to go for... So, let your voices be heard. What are the experiences ya'll have had with gages? -------- Tom Kreiner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395903#395903


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    Time: 01:14:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages
    From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Mine are all electric...Corvair power. Gary Boothe Sent from my iPhone On Mar 8, 2013, at 1:07 PM, "tkreiner" <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote: > > Guys, > > I'm collecting stuff for my engine, and I would like input on the type of gages to add for Oil Temp & Pressure. I've seen many panels using the tubing type gages, but not many (or any?) using electrical gages with senders. Since I will have a full electrical system, I can use either. There have heard some horror stories about having a leak in the cockpit, and that's one concern with the tubing type, and maybe the weight factor is something else to consider... > > Not sure which to go for... So, let your voices be heard. What are the experiences ya'll have had with gages? > > -------- > Tom Kreiner > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395903#395903 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:31:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages
    From: "bradandlinda tds.net" <bradandlinda@tds.net>
    Tom, I have an old oil/water gauge that reads between 32 and 212 F. Ilove it because it shows lower temps in cool wx so I know how the warming up is going. Many new aircraft have gauges that start at 160F. This is stupid. On aircooled/open cowled engines you may never see the needle come off the peg until you are in climb or cruise on a warm day! Brad Williams NX29NX On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:07 PM, tkreiner <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote: > > Guys, > > I'm collecting stuff for my engine, and I would like input on the type of > gages to add for Oil Temp & Pressure. I've seen many panels using the > tubing type gages, but not many (or any?) using electrical gages with > senders. Since I will have a full electrical system, I can use either. > There have heard some horror stories about having a leak in the cockpit, > and that's one concern with the tubing type, and maybe the weight factor is > something else to consider... > > Not sure which to go for... So, let your voices be heard. What are the > experiences ya'll have had with gages? > > -------- > Tom Kreiner > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395903#395903 > >


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    Time: 01:51:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages
    From: Rick <lmforge@earthlink.net>
    Tom, Mine are all electric, VDO gauges. I am still a month or so from 1st engine start Rick Schreiber Valparaiso, IN Sent from my iPad On Mar 8, 2013, at 3:07 PM, "tkreiner" <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote: > > Guys, > > I'm collecting stuff for my engine, and I would like input on the type of gages to add for Oil Temp & Pressure. I've seen many panels using the tubing type gages, but not many (or any?) using electrical gages with senders. Since I will have a full electrical system, I can use either. There have heard some horror stories about having a leak in the cockpit, and that's one concern with the tubing type, and maybe the weight factor is something else to consider... > > Not sure which to go for... So, let your voices be heard. What are the experiences ya'll have had with gages? > > -------- > Tom Kreiner > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395903#395903 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:35:25 PM PST US
    From: Gardiner <airlion2@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Corvair cowl
    Robert, I like your cowl. Do you have front starter and alternator ? Cheers, Gardiner Mason. On 3/8/2013 9:42 AM, caldwrl wrote: > > Rick, > > It appears we are at a similar phase. I too, have just completed my nose bowl and have been fitting cardboard patterns to it the last few sessions in the hanger. I built in flanges on my sheet steel firewall, so I will try to use that as my attachment system. I may have to add the angle tabs as backups. I am not satisfied with my placement of the intake on the nose bowl so I am considering a mod that will use a framed opening to cover the one I molded in. Purely and aesthetic thing. I am attaching a couple of images that show my work to date. Also an image that shows my intended change to the intake. I plan to make the intake functional, but will need to route the flow back to the carb via a scat tube arrangement TBD. I was fortunate to be able to stop off at Han's home and discuss his build. I am also attaching an image I took while there... I'm sure Hans won't mind. Feel free to contact me off line if you would like to expand on any facet of this subject and I w! > ill do the same. I would like to see pics of your progress... thanks in advance. > > -------- > Robert Caldwell > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395888#395888 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc02241a_154.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc02238_109.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc01732_101.jpg > >


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    Time: 02:35:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    All electric. Worked well. -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee Rebuilding NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395907#395907


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    Time: 03:18:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Corvair cowl
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Robert, Now that is a great looking Corvair cowl. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: caldwrl <caldwrl@etex.net> Sent: Fri, Mar 8, 2013 8:43 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair cowl Rick, It appears we are at a similar phase. I too, have just completed my nose b owl and have been fitting cardboard patterns to it the last few sessions in the hanger. I built in flanges on my sheet steel firewall, so I will try to us e that as my attachment system. I may have to add the angle tabs as backups. I am not satisfied with my placement of the intake on the nose bowl so I am considering a mod that will use a framed opening to cover the one I molded in. Purely and aesthetic thing. I am attaching a couple of images that show my work to date. Also an image that shows my intended change to the intake. I pla n to make the intake functional, but will need to route the flow back to the car b via a scat tube arrangement TBD. I was fortunate to be able to stop off at Han 's home and discuss his build. I am also attaching an image I took while ther e... I'm sure Hans won't mind. Feel free to contact me off line if you would li ke to expand on any facet of this subject and I w! ill do the same. I would like to see pics of your progress... thanks in advance. -------- Robert Caldwell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395888#395888 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc02241a_154.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc02238_109.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc01732_101.jpg


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    Time: 04:21:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Corvair cowl
    From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
    Robert very nice looking cowl, gear, everything! What are the bolts in the f ront center section? Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:17 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote: > Robert, > > Now that is a great looking Corvair cowl. > > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN > -----Original Message----- > From: caldwrl <caldwrl@etex.net> > To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Fri, Mar 8, 2013 8:43 am > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair cowl > > > Rick, > > It appears we are at a similar phase. I too, have just completed my nose b owl > and have been fitting cardboard patterns to it the last few sessions in th e > hanger. I built in flanges on my sheet steel firewall, so I will try to u se > that as my attachment system. I may have to add the angle tabs as backups . I > am not satisfied with my placement of the intake on the nose bowl so I am > considering a mod that will use a framed opening to cover the one I molded in. > Purely and aesthetic thing. I am attaching a couple of images that show m y work > to date. Also an image that shows my intended change to the intake. I pl an to > make the intake functional, but will need to route the flow back to the ca rb via > a scat tube arrangement TBD. I was fortunate to be able to stop off at Ha n's > home and discuss his build. I am also attaching an image I took while the re... > I'm sure Hans won't mind. Feel free to contact me off line if you would l ike to > expand on any facet of this subject and I w! > ill do the same. I would like to see pics of your progress... thanks in > advance. > > -------- > Robert Caldwell > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395888#395888 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc02241a_154.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc02238_109.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc01732_101.jpg > > > > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 04:53:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    My gauges are all electric except for the mechanical tach. I bought Westac 2 1/4" off Ebay for cheap. Checked cal and they were right on. I like. -------- Jerry Dotson First flight June 16,2012 Flying in phase 2 Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395912#395912


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    Time: 07:28:08 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Jim Boyer's 1st start-up
    Jim, Here's a You Tube link: http://youtu.be/uBEtPuWBTjI It was a great day, but I had your 9/16" wrench in my back pocket! I feel so Markle-esk.... Gary Boothe NX308MB


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    Time: 07:43:32 PM PST US
    From: Rick Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Jim Boyer's 1st start-up
    On 3/8/2013 9:25 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > > Jim, > > Here's a You Tube link: http://youtu.be/uBEtPuWBTjI > > It was a great day, but I had your 9/16" wrench in my back pocket! I feel so > Markle-esk.... > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > Congratulations Jim!!!! Its got to be a great feeling, even if it cost you a wrench. Rick Schreiber Valparaiso, IN


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    Time: 07:45:56 PM PST US
    From: Rick Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Corvair cowl
    On 3/8/2013 8:42 AM, caldwrl wrote: > > Rick, > > It appears we are at a similar phase. I too, have just completed my nose bowl and have been fitting cardboard patterns to it the last few sessions in the hanger. I built in flanges on my sheet steel firewall, so I will try to use that as my attachment system. I may have to add the angle tabs as backups. I am not satisfied with my placement of the intake on the nose bowl so I am considering a mod that will use a framed opening to cover the one I molded in. Purely and aesthetic thing. I am attaching a couple of images that show my work to date. Also an image that shows my intended change to the intake. I plan to make the intake functional, but will need to route the flow back to the carb via a scat tube arrangement TBD. I was fortunate to be able to stop off at Han's home and discuss his build. I am also attaching an image I took while there... I'm sure Hans won't mind. Feel free to contact me off line if you would like to expand on any facet of this subject and I w! > ill do the same. I would like to see pics of your progress... thanks in advance. > > -------- > Robert Caldwell > > Very nice looking job Robert. I was going to do my nosebowl in fiberglass, but I thought it would be easier in aluminum. Yours is quite impressive. I'm getting ready to cut patterns tomorrow. I will post some photos soon. Rick Schreiber Valparaiso, IN


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    Time: 08:00:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Jim Boyer's 1st start-up
    From: Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com>
    Congrats Jim!!!! Having it running is a great feeling as it seems to make it a living creature. It's alive! Mike Groah On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:25 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > Jim, > > Here's a You Tube link: http://youtu.be/uBEtPuWBTjI > > It was a great day, but I had your 9/16" wrench in my back pocket! I feel so > Markle-esk.... > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:03:22 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Jim Boyer's 1st start-up
    Congratulations, Jim! Thought maybe your wife would be in the front seat? Your plane really looks great, good progress since I last saw it. Great workmanship! Ryan Krause Sent from my iPad On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:25 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > Jim, > > Here's a You Tube link: http://youtu.be/uBEtPuWBTjI > > It was a great day, but I had your 9/16" wrench in my back pocket! I feel so > Markle-esk.... > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > > > > > > >




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