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     1. 06:28 AM - Re: Sky Scout fuselage (Bill Church)
     2. 06:43 AM - Re: Corvair cowl (caldwrl)
     3. 01:08 PM - Oil Temp & Pressure Gages (tkreiner)
     4. 01:14 PM - Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages (Gary Boothe)
     5. 01:31 PM - Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages (bradandlinda tds.net)
     6. 01:51 PM - Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages (Rick)
     7. 02:35 PM - Re: Re: Corvair cowl (Gardiner)
     8. 02:35 PM - Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages (kevinpurtee)
     9. 03:18 PM - Re: Re: Corvair cowl (helspersew@aol.com)
    10. 04:21 PM - Re: Re: Corvair cowl (Jack)
    11. 04:53 PM - Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages (Jerry Dotson)
    12. 07:28 PM - Jim Boyer's 1st start-up (Gary Boothe)
    13. 07:43 PM - Re: Jim Boyer's 1st start-up (Rick Schreiber)
    14. 07:45 PM - Re: Re: Corvair cowl (Rick Schreiber)
    15. 08:00 PM - Re: Jim Boyer's 1st start-up (Michael Groah)
    16. 08:03 PM - Re: Jim Boyer's 1st start-up (Ray Krause)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Sky Scout fuselage | 
      
      
      Rick,
      I've only seen the FGM version of the Sky Scout plans, so this is only speculation,
      but I doubt that the other version is drawn to suit the lighter Continental
      engines.  I bet the plans he got from the Pietenpol family were drawn before
      the Continental engines were even built.  My guess is that the differences are
      akin to the difference between the FGM version and the Orrin Hoopman version
      of the Air Camper plans.  The Hoopman plans are identified as the "improved"
      Air Camper, which gives a little bit more room for pilot and passenger.  I would
      suggest checking the dates on both sets of plans, and go with the later version
      (most likely the plans from the Pietenpol family).
      Bill C.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Corvair cowl | 
      
      
      Rick,
      
      It appears we are at a similar phase.  I too, have just completed my nose bowl
      and have been fitting cardboard patterns to it the last few sessions in the hanger.
      I built in flanges on my sheet steel firewall, so I will try to use that
      as my attachment system.  I may have to add the angle tabs as backups.  I am
      not satisfied with my placement of the intake on the nose bowl so I am considering
      a mod that will use a framed opening to cover the one I molded in.  Purely
      and aesthetic thing.  I am attaching a couple of images that show my work to
      date.  Also an image that shows my intended change to the intake.  I plan to
      make the intake functional, but will need to route the flow back to the carb
      via a scat tube arrangement TBD.  I was fortunate to be able to stop off at Han's
      home and discuss his build.  I am also attaching an image I took while there...
      I'm sure Hans won't mind.  Feel free to contact me off line if you would
      like to expand on any facet of this subject and I will do the same.  I would
      like to see pics of your progress... thanks in advance.
      
      --------
      Robert Caldwell
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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| Subject:  | Oil Temp & Pressure Gages | 
      
      
      Guys,
      
      I'm collecting stuff for my engine, and I would like input on the type of gages
      to add for Oil Temp & Pressure.  I've seen many panels using the tubing type
      gages, but not many (or any?) using electrical gages with senders.  Since I will
      have a full electrical system, I can use either.  There have heard some horror
      stories about having a leak in the cockpit, and that's one concern with the
      tubing type, and maybe the weight factor is something else to consider...
      
      Not sure which to go for...  So, let your voices be heard.  What are the experiences
      ya'll have had with gages?
      
      --------
      Tom Kreiner
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395903#395903
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages | 
      
      
      Mine are all electric...Corvair power.
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Mar 8, 2013, at 1:07 PM, "tkreiner" <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Guys,
      > 
      > I'm collecting stuff for my engine, and I would like input on the type of gages
      to add for Oil Temp & Pressure.  I've seen many panels using the tubing type
      gages, but not many (or any?) using electrical gages with senders.  Since I
      will have a full electrical system, I can use either.  There have heard some horror
      stories about having a leak in the cockpit, and that's one concern with
      the tubing type, and maybe the weight factor is something else to consider...
      > 
      > Not sure which to go for...  So, let your voices be heard.  What are the experiences
      ya'll have had with gages?
      > 
      > --------
      > Tom Kreiner
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395903#395903
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages | 
      
      Tom,  I have an old oil/water gauge that reads between 32 and 212 F.  Ilove
      it because it shows lower temps in cool wx so I know how the warming up is
      going.  Many new aircraft have gauges that start at 160F.  This is stupid.
      On aircooled/open cowled engines you may never see the needle come off the
      peg until you are in climb or cruise on a warm day!  Brad Williams  NX29NX
      
      On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:07 PM, tkreiner <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      >
      > Guys,
      >
      > I'm collecting stuff for my engine, and I would like input on the type of
      > gages to add for Oil Temp & Pressure.  I've seen many panels using the
      > tubing type gages, but not many (or any?) using electrical gages with
      > senders.  Since I will have a full electrical system, I can use either.
      >  There have heard some horror stories about having a leak in the cockpit,
      > and that's one concern with the tubing type, and maybe the weight factor is
      > something else to consider...
      >
      > Not sure which to go for...  So, let your voices be heard.  What are the
      > experiences ya'll have had with gages?
      >
      > --------
      > Tom Kreiner
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395903#395903
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages | 
      
      
      Tom,
      Mine are all electric, VDO gauges. I am still a month or so from 1st engine start
      Rick Schreiber
      Valparaiso, IN
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      On Mar 8, 2013, at 3:07 PM, "tkreiner" <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Guys,
      > 
      > I'm collecting stuff for my engine, and I would like input on the type of gages
      to add for Oil Temp & Pressure.  I've seen many panels using the tubing type
      gages, but not many (or any?) using electrical gages with senders.  Since I
      will have a full electrical system, I can use either.  There have heard some horror
      stories about having a leak in the cockpit, and that's one concern with
      the tubing type, and maybe the weight factor is something else to consider...
      > 
      > Not sure which to go for...  So, let your voices be heard.  What are the experiences
      ya'll have had with gages?
      > 
      > --------
      > Tom Kreiner
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395903#395903
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: Corvair cowl | 
      
      
      Robert, I like your cowl. Do you have front starter and alternator ? 
      Cheers, Gardiner Mason.
      
      
      On 3/8/2013 9:42 AM, caldwrl wrote:
      >
      > Rick,
      >
      > It appears we are at a similar phase.  I too, have just completed my nose bowl
      and have been fitting cardboard patterns to it the last few sessions in the
      hanger.  I built in flanges on my sheet steel firewall, so I will try to use that
      as my attachment system.  I may have to add the angle tabs as backups.  I
      am not satisfied with my placement of the intake on the nose bowl so I am considering
      a mod that will use a framed opening to cover the one I molded in.  Purely
      and aesthetic thing.  I am attaching a couple of images that show my work
      to date.  Also an image that shows my intended change to the intake.  I plan
      to make the intake functional, but will need to route the flow back to the carb
      via a scat tube arrangement TBD.  I was fortunate to be able to stop off at
      Han's home and discuss his build.  I am also attaching an image I took while there...
      I'm sure Hans won't mind.  Feel free to contact me off line if you would
      like to expand on any facet of this subject and I w!
      >   ill do the same.  I would like to see pics of your progress... thanks in advance.
      >
      > --------
      > Robert Caldwell
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395888#395888
      >
      >
      > Attachments:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc02241a_154.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc02238_109.jpg
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| Subject:  | Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages | 
      
      
      All electric.  Worked well.
      
      --------
      Kevin "Axel" Purtee
      Rebuilding NX899KP
      Austin/San Marcos, TX
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Corvair cowl | 
      
      
      Robert,
      
      Now that is a great looking Corvair cowl.
      
      Dan Helsper
      Puryear, TN
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: caldwrl <caldwrl@etex.net>
      Sent: Fri, Mar 8, 2013 8:43 am
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair cowl
      
      
      
      Rick,
      
      It appears we are at a similar phase.  I too, have just completed my nose b
      owl 
      and have been fitting cardboard patterns to it the last few sessions in the
      
      hanger.  I built in flanges on my sheet steel firewall, so I will try to us
      e 
      that as my attachment system.  I may have to add the angle tabs as backups.
        I 
      am not satisfied with my placement of the intake on the nose bowl so I am
      
      considering a mod that will use a framed opening to cover the one I molded 
      in.  
      Purely and aesthetic thing.  I am attaching a couple of images that show my
       work 
      to date.  Also an image that shows my intended change to the intake.  I pla
      n to 
      make the intake functional, but will need to route the flow back to the car
      b via 
      a scat tube arrangement TBD.  I was fortunate to be able to stop off at Han
      's 
      home and discuss his build.  I am also attaching an image I took while ther
      e... 
      I'm sure Hans won't mind.  Feel free to contact me off line if you would li
      ke to 
      expand on any facet of this subject and I w!
       ill do the same.  I would like to see pics of your progress... thanks in
      
      advance.
      
      --------
      Robert Caldwell
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395888#395888
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Corvair cowl | 
      
      Robert very nice looking cowl, gear, everything! What are the bolts in the f
      ront center section? 
      
      Sent from my iPad
      Jack Textor
      
      On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:17 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
      
      > Robert,
      >  
      > Now that is a great looking Corvair cowl.
      >  
      > Dan Helsper
      > Puryear, TN
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: caldwrl <caldwrl@etex.net>
      > To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Fri, Mar 8, 2013 8:43 am
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair cowl
      > 
      > 
      > Rick,
      > 
      > It appears we are at a similar phase.  I too, have just completed my nose b
      owl 
      > and have been fitting cardboard patterns to it the last few sessions in th
      e 
      > hanger.  I built in flanges on my sheet steel firewall, so I will try to u
      se 
      > that as my attachment system.  I may have to add the angle tabs as backups
      .  I 
      > am not satisfied with my placement of the intake on the nose bowl so I am 
      
      > considering a mod that will use a framed opening to cover the one I molded
       in.  
      > Purely and aesthetic thing.  I am attaching a couple of images that show m
      y work 
      > to date.  Also an image that shows my intended change to the intake.  I pl
      an to 
      > make the intake functional, but will need to route the flow back to the ca
      rb via 
      > a scat tube arrangement TBD.  I was fortunate to be able to stop off at Ha
      n's 
      > home and discuss his build.  I am also attaching an image I took while the
      re... 
      > I'm sure Hans won't mind.  Feel free to contact me off line if you would l
      ike to 
      > expand on any facet of this subject and I w!
      >  ill do the same.  I would like to see pics of your progress... thanks in 
      
      > advance.
      > 
      > --------
      > Robert Caldwell
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395888#395888
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Attachments: 
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc02241a_154.jpg
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      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc01732_101.jpg
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      > 
      > 
      > 
      > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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| Subject:  | Re: Oil Temp & Pressure Gages | 
      
      
      My gauges are all electric except for the mechanical tach. I bought Westac 2 1/4"
      off Ebay for cheap. Checked cal and they were right on. I like.
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      
      First flight June 16,2012
      Flying in phase 2
      Lycoming O-235 C2C
      Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Jim Boyer's 1st start-up | 
      
      
      Jim,
      
      Here's a You Tube link:  http://youtu.be/uBEtPuWBTjI 
      
      It was a great day, but I had your 9/16" wrench in my back pocket! I feel so
      Markle-esk....
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jim Boyer's 1st start-up | 
      
      
      On 3/8/2013 9:25 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
      >
      > Jim,
      >
      > Here's a You Tube link:  http://youtu.be/uBEtPuWBTjI
      >
      > It was a great day, but I had your 9/16" wrench in my back pocket! I feel so
      > Markle-esk....
      >
      > Gary Boothe
      > NX308MB
      >
      >
      Congratulations Jim!!!! Its got to be a great feeling, even if it cost 
      you a wrench.
      
      Rick Schreiber
      Valparaiso, IN
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Corvair cowl | 
      
      
      On 3/8/2013 8:42 AM, caldwrl wrote:
      >
      > Rick,
      >
      > It appears we are at a similar phase.  I too, have just completed my nose bowl
      and have been fitting cardboard patterns to it the last few sessions in the
      hanger.  I built in flanges on my sheet steel firewall, so I will try to use that
      as my attachment system.  I may have to add the angle tabs as backups.  I
      am not satisfied with my placement of the intake on the nose bowl so I am considering
      a mod that will use a framed opening to cover the one I molded in.  Purely
      and aesthetic thing.  I am attaching a couple of images that show my work
      to date.  Also an image that shows my intended change to the intake.  I plan
      to make the intake functional, but will need to route the flow back to the carb
      via a scat tube arrangement TBD.  I was fortunate to be able to stop off at
      Han's home and discuss his build.  I am also attaching an image I took while there...
      I'm sure Hans won't mind.  Feel free to contact me off line if you would
      like to expand on any facet of this subject and I w!
      >   ill do the same.  I would like to see pics of your progress... thanks in advance.
      >
      > --------
      > Robert Caldwell
      >
      >
      Very nice looking job Robert. I was going to do my nosebowl in 
      fiberglass, but I thought it would be easier in aluminum. Yours is quite 
      impressive. I'm getting ready to cut patterns tomorrow. I will post some 
      photos soon.
      
      Rick Schreiber
      Valparaiso, IN
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jim Boyer's 1st start-up | 
      
      
      Congrats Jim!!!!     Having it running is a great feeling as it seems to make it
      a living creature.   It's alive!
      
      Mike Groah
      
      
      On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:25 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Jim,
      > 
      > Here's a You Tube link:  http://youtu.be/uBEtPuWBTjI 
      > 
      > It was a great day, but I had your 9/16" wrench in my back pocket! I feel so
      > Markle-esk....
      > 
      > Gary Boothe
      > NX308MB
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jim Boyer's 1st start-up | 
      
      
      Congratulations, Jim!  Thought maybe your wife would be in the front seat?  Your
      plane really looks great, good progress since I last saw it. Great workmanship!
      
      Ryan Krause
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:25 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Jim,
      > 
      > Here's a You Tube link:  http://youtu.be/uBEtPuWBTjI 
      > 
      > It was a great day, but I had your 9/16" wrench in my back pocket! I feel so
      > Markle-esk....
      > 
      > Gary Boothe
      > NX308MB
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
 
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