---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/22/13: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:40 AM - Re: Piets in the Orlando area (Jerry Dotson) 2. 04:43 AM - Re: Re: Piets in the Orlando area (Out of Office) (TOM STINEMETZE) 3. 06:00 AM - Re: Canadian Hospitality (pineymb) 4. 06:01 AM - Re: Second update on comparrisen testing of Pietenpol and Riblet (Jerry Dotson) 5. 06:36 AM - Answer to two questions (Barnwell Regional Airport) 6. 06:38 AM - wing testing (Douwe Blumberg) 7. 11:53 AM - Re: Answer to two questions (Dan Yocum) 8. 12:55 PM - Re: Piets in the Orlando area (Ben Charvet) 9. 01:55 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 03/21/13 (Sanders, Andrew P) 10. 02:40 PM - Re: Canadian Hospitality (taildrags) 11. 05:28 PM - Re: Canadian Hospitality (pineymb) 12. 08:59 PM - How to bend flat steel for control stick attachment? (Mark Roberts) 13. 09:11 PM - Re: Second update on comparrisen testing of Pietenpol and Riblet (Mark Roberts) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:15 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piets in the Orlando area From: "Jerry Dotson" Adrian, I am not in the Orlando area really but you would be very welcome to come by and visit with me. Orlando is 6 hours drive from here but KPNS and KVPS are both less than an hour from here. Swapping lies is what I do best. -------- Jerry Dotson First flight June 16,2012 Flying in phase 2 Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396791#396791 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:58 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piets in the Orlando area (Out of Office) Tom Stinemetze will be unavailable for the remainder of the month of March. I will be back in my office on April 1, 2013. >>> "Jerry Dotson" 03/22/13 06:39 >>> Adrian, I am not in the Orlando area really but you would be very welcome to come by and visit with me. Orlando is 6 hours drive from here but KPNS and KVPS are both less than an hour from here. Swapping lies is what I do best. -------- Jerry Dotson First flight June 16,2012 Flying in phase 2 Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396791#396791 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:00:15 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Canadian Hospitality From: "pineymb" Hi Dave....received an email a couple of days ago regarding a tour of your test facility on March 30th. Will you be in Winnipeg on that date? I hear you were at the airport a couple of weeks ago and stumbled upon an event going on there and a forum on Pietenpols broke out with a few Piet owners and builders (small world) -------- Adrian M Winnipeg, MB Canada Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396794#396794 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/cahs_manitoba_tour_of_the_engine_test_facility_30_march_2013_1_15_pm1_677.pdf http://forums.matronics.com//files/cahs_manitoba_tour_of_the_engine_test_facility_30_march_2013_1_15_pm1_565.pdf ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:29 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Second update on comparrisen testing of Pietenpol and Riblet From: "Jerry Dotson" P.F. and Don, I appreciate you guys doing the testing and sharing the results with us. I don't have a lot of time on my Piet yet. Nearing 50 hours now. Stall speed on my Piet is around 42 MPH @ 1150# gross on a GPS not indicated airspeed. -------- Jerry Dotson First flight June 16,2012 Flying in phase 2 Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396795#396795 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:54 AM PST US From: "Barnwell Regional Airport" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Answer to two questions Dan and Jerry, I would refer you back to the first posting, where I noted that in my plane I can fly as slow as 34mph indicated and below that number, the airspeed needle drops off and you can't accurately read the stall speed. I think it would be about 30-32 mph, but cannot say for sure I have not stalled Don's plane yet and I don't want to go out on a limb and make a prediction. I only want to share facts, not guesses. Hope everyone is accepting the information in the spirit that it was given......as information only.....form you own opinion. Hope to see some of you at our Sport Aviation Association " gathering on April 5-6" P. F. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:41 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: wing testing A BIG thank you! to P.F. and Don for taking the time to do these tests, and to report them to us. And thanks Don for building a Riblett plane just to help us better understand these things, really appreciated! :-) Douwe ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:53:35 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Answer to two questions On 03/22/2013 08:36 AM, Barnwell Regional Airport wrote: > Dan and Jerry, > > I would refer you back to the first posting, where I noted that in my > plane I can fly as slow as 34mph indicated and below that number, the > airspeed needle drops off and you can't accurately read the stall speed. Oh ya, I forgot you mentioned that. I must be getting early onset of CRS. :-) Cheers! Dan do not archive > > I think it would be about 30-32 mph, but cannot say for sure > > I have not stalled Don's plane yet and I don't want to go out on a limb > and make a prediction. I only want to share facts, not guesses. > > Hope everyone is accepting the information in the spirit that it was > given......as information only.....form you own opinion. > > Hope to see some of you at our Sport Aviation Association " gathering on > April 5-6" > > P. F. > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:55:45 PM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piets in the Orlando area I'm in Titusville, which is 35-40 miles east or Orlando. My Piet has been flying for 3 years. Contact me off list and maybe we can set something up. Ben Charvet NX866BC 164 hrs Cont A-65 On 3/21/2013 9:09 AM, pineymb wrote: > > I'll be in the Orlando area the first week of May and was wondering if there are some Piet owners in the area with the possibility of stopping in to visit and exchange lies or whatever. > > Cheers > > -------- > Adrian M > Winnipeg, MB > Canada > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396733#396733 > > -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:55:23 PM PST US From: "Sanders, Andrew P" Subject: Pietenpol-List: RE: Pietenpol-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 03/21/13 Any chance of posting the PDF's in the Matronics Photo & File share? The Archive doesn't have the attachments and those of us on the Digest didn't receive them when originally posted. Thanks, Andrew >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Second update on comparrisen testing of Pietenpol >> and Riblett airfoils -- Snip-- >> Attached in a pdf file is the second update of our testing to determine >> the differences between the Pietenpol and Riblett airfoils. Search the >> archive for the first posting last month. -- Snip -- ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:40:28 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Canadian Hospitality From: "taildrags" Hey... I'll attend the tour of the engine test facility if it has a gaseous agent fire suppression system for the hush house and I can observe a discharge test! -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396814#396814 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:28:27 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Canadian Hospitality From: "pineymb" Is that like chucking frozen gobblers into the fan? -------- Adrian M Winnipeg, MB Canada Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396824#396824 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:16 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: How to bend flat steel for control stick attachment? From: "Mark Roberts" Hi Guys: I finished the control assembly tube that connects the front and back cockpits and now need to make the control sticks. I see that I should bend the flat .090 3/4" steel in a slight curve to match the control stick. I tried heating one of the steel pieces 2.5" long x .75" wide to a cherry red, and then clamping in the vice and whacking it with a hammer, but the vice cools the steel quickly, so I am wondering what the best method is to get the bends in the steel properly. I am betting this is not the last time I will need to do something like this, so what is the proper way? By the way, I looked through all of my EAA welding books to see if it is shown there and didn't see it in there, so I thought I would ask here. Many thanks!! Feels great to make some real progress after sitting on the sidelines for several months due to work... :) Mark Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396835#396835 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:01 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Second update on comparrisen testing of Pietenpol and Riblet From: "Mark Roberts" Thanks guys! I, for one, really appreciate you taking the time to do the testing and side by side comparisons. While I plan to build the Riblett 613.5, it is helpful to know that at least I am not going backwards in performance. I hope the arrows in your back didn't leave scars. There are several of us very grateful for the posts! 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