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1. 02:58 AM - Question please!..Hor stab mounting surface. (bubbleboy)
2. 03:49 AM - Re: How to bend flat steel for control stick attachment? (Jack Phillips)
3. 04:44 AM - Re: How to bend flat steel for control stick attachment? (Jack)
4. 06:26 AM - Re: Piets in the Orlando area (pineymb)
5. 08:36 AM - Re: Re: Piets in the Orlando area (Ben Charvet)
6. 09:49 AM - Re: How to bend flat steel for control stick attachment? (Mark Roberts)
7. 09:58 AM - Re: How to bend flat steel for control stick attachment? (Mark Roberts)
8. 11:13 AM - Re: Question please!..Hor stab mounting surface. (Chris)
9. 12:40 PM - For Sale (davecates@charter.net)
10. 01:44 PM - Re: Re: How to bend flat steel for control stick attachment? (Jack)
11. 04:02 PM - Re: For Sale (taildrags)
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| Subject: | Question please!..Hor stab mounting surface. |
Im building the lengthened 1966 fuselage and note the distance between the tail
post and where the back of the turtle deck finishes is 18 7/8 inches. On the
standard fuselage its 18 inches. When I measure the width of the horizontal stabiliser
its 18 inches so why have they listed 18 7/8 inches on the lengthened
fuselage?
Is it an error or am I not seeing something?
Scotty
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Tail and Ribs built...Building control system and about to start fuselage...Corvair
engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
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| Subject: | How to bend flat steel for control stick attachment? |
Bend it cold. The only bending on a Pietenpol that requires being done hot
is the flattened tubing ends used in various places, such as the spreader
bars on the solid axle undercarriage.
Tony Bingelis describes how to bend steel fittings in "Sportplane
Construction Techniques". Or, if you don't happen to own his books (you
should, as Mike Cuy will tell you), this month's "Sport Aviation" happens to
reprint some of those techniques.
Good luck!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:59 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: How to bend flat steel for control stick
attachment?
Hi Guys:
I finished the control assembly tube that connects the front and back
cockpits and now need to make the control sticks. I see that I should bend
the flat .090 3/4" steel in a slight curve to match the control stick. I
tried heating one of the steel pieces 2.5" long x .75" wide to a cherry red,
and then clamping in the vice and whacking it with a hammer, but the vice
cools the steel quickly, so I am wondering what the best method is to get
the bends in the steel properly. I am betting this is not the last time I
will need to do something like this, so what is the proper way?
By the way, I looked through all of my EAA welding books to see if it is
shown there and didn't see it in there, so I thought I would ask here.
Many thanks!!
Feels great to make some real progress after sitting on the sidelines for
several months due to work... :)
Mark
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| Subject: | How to bend flat steel for control stick attachment? |
Mark that bend is easy seen here http://textors.com/DSCN4167.JPG using this
http://www.grizzly.com/products/6-Vise-Brake/H3245 You will want to smooth
down the V as it nicks the metal. Browse around my site to see other parts
and tools. Have fun...
Jack Textor
Des Moines, IA
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 10:59 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: How to bend flat steel for control stick
attachment?
Hi Guys:
I finished the control assembly tube that connects the front and back
cockpits and now need to make the control sticks. I see that I should bend
the flat .090 3/4" steel in a slight curve to match the control stick. I
tried heating one of the steel pieces 2.5" long x .75" wide to a cherry red,
and then clamping in the vice and whacking it with a hammer, but the vice
cools the steel quickly, so I am wondering what the best method is to get
the bends in the steel properly. I am betting this is not the last time I
will need to do something like this, so what is the proper way?
By the way, I looked through all of my EAA welding books to see if it is
shown there and didn't see it in there, so I thought I would ask here.
Many thanks!!
Feels great to make some real progress after sitting on the sidelines for
several months due to work... :)
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Piets in the Orlando area |
Hey...Thanks Ben and Jerry, probably have a couple of days to do as I please and
one is booked for a flight in the Stearmen at Fantasy of Flight so things will
be tight but hoping to also make it out to NASA so maybe meeting up with you
Ben is a possibility. Actually I believe we briefly meet at Brodhead this pass
summer. Will contact you offline later if I can make it work.
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Adrian M
Winnipeg, MB
Canada
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| Subject: | Re: Piets in the Orlando area |
Titusville is right next to the space center, hopefully we can work
something out.
Ben
On 3/23/2013 9:26 AM, pineymb wrote:
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> Hey...Thanks Ben and Jerry, probably have a couple of days to do as I please
and one is booked for a flight in the Stearmen at Fantasy of Flight so things
will be tight but hoping to also make it out to NASA so maybe meeting up with
you Ben is a possibility. Actually I believe we briefly meet at Brodhead this
pass summer. Will contact you offline later if I can make it work.
>
> --------
> Adrian M
> Winnipeg, MB
> Canada
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> Read this topic online here:
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--
Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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| Subject: | Re: How to bend flat steel for control stick attachment? |
Thanks guys.
I have the full set of uncle Tony's books (as Mike Cuy says) so I will have me
a look.
Also, thanks for the links too. I'm off to have a look...
Then back put to the shop!!
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: How to bend flat steel for control stick attachment? |
Wow Jack! Neat weld.... Are you using TIG? I now see that mine (which I thought
were neat) are not as pretty as I thought. But, they are functionally good...
I actually have a brake press bender, and didn't think to use it for this application.
Might just have to try it. I thought these bends had to be round like
the tubing, and wondered how you could do that...
Thanks again!! Nice welds! (I'm jealous!)
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| Subject: | Question please!..Hor stab mounting surface. |
Scotty
Its not a critical measurement so don't stress out too much. The extra 7/8
inch gives you room for the horizontal stabilizer and if you don't like the
gap fill it in later with a bit of spruce.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:58 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question please!..Hor stab mounting surface.
--> <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
Im building the lengthened 1966 fuselage and note the distance between the
tail post and where the back of the turtle deck finishes is 18 7/8 inches.
On the standard fuselage its 18 inches. When I measure the width of the
horizontal stabiliser its 18 inches so why have they listed 18 7/8 inches on
the lengthened fuselage?
Is it an error or am I not seeing something?
Scotty
--------
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Tail and Ribs built...Building control system and about to start
fuselage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396843#396843
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For Sale / My name is Dave Cates from Fontana WI. For about 3 years I
and an A&P friend have built a very nice experimential Continential
engine. We are just finishing the finial assembly and I have decided to
sell rather than continue on my Piet. This engine is zero time/ new
cylinders / pistons / valves / rebuilt mags / electric start /
altranater / crank was ground and nitrited. Built with a little better
than 100hp. I will sell for $7,000, If anyone has an intrest please call
me at 262-275-5822
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| Subject: | Re: How to bend flat steel for control stick attachment? |
Thanks for the nice comments Mark but most of the welding has been done by a good
friend, Jerry Grogan. I do some of the "not so critical" stuff. Yes it's tig.
The vice brake worked well because you only want to bend about half the part,
you just let the end not to bend overhang outside the brake.
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Mar 23, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "Mark Roberts" <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Wow Jack! Neat weld.... Are you using TIG? I now see that mine (which I thought
were neat) are not as pretty as I thought. But, they are functionally good...
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> I actually have a brake press bender, and didn't think to use it for this application.
Might just have to try it. I thought these bends had to be round like
the tubing, and wondered how you could do that...
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> Thanks again!! Nice welds! (I'm jealous!)
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396861#396861
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Dave;
How about a little more information? Is it an O-200 (you say it's a little over
100HP)? If it has a starter, that sort of narrows down the possibilities.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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