---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/25/13: 50 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:31 AM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (Chris) 2. 03:07 AM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (Jack) 3. 04:07 AM - Re: Done covering!!! (Jack) 4. 04:07 AM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (Gary Boothe) 5. 04:39 AM - Re: Saturday afternoon patrol (helspersew@aol.com) 6. 04:50 AM - Re: Question please!..Hor stab mounting surface. (bubbleboy) 7. 04:51 AM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (Dan Yocum) 8. 04:53 AM - Re: Saturday afternoon patrol (Dan Yocum) 9. 04:55 AM - Re: Done covering!!! (Dan Yocum) 10. 05:35 AM - Re: Saturday afternoon patrol (skellytown flyer) 11. 05:39 AM - Re: Re: Saturday afternoon patrol (Out of Office) (TOM STINEMETZE) 12. 05:45 AM - Re: Saturday afternoon patrol (Gardiner Mason) 13. 06:41 AM - Re: Saturday afternoon patrol (Dan Yocum) 14. 06:56 AM - Re: Done covering!!! (Chris Rusch) 15. 07:02 AM - Re: Steve Dortch's Piet (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB) 16. 07:42 AM - Rusch's progress (Douwe Blumberg) 17. 08:11 AM - Re: Piet project for sale (899PM) 18. 08:17 AM - Re: Rusch's progress (Chris Rusch) 19. 08:20 AM - Re: Done covering!!! (Jim Boyer) 20. 08:21 AM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (Jim Boyer) 21. 08:23 AM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (Jim Boyer) 22. 08:43 AM - Re: Saturday afternoon patrol (jarheadpilot82) 23. 08:45 AM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (curtdm(at)gmail.com) 24. 08:59 AM - Re: Re: Saturday afternoon patrol (Gardiner) 25. 09:54 AM - Light weight fabric (helspersew@aol.com) 26. 01:23 PM - Re: Re: Done covering!!! (Ray Krause) 27. 01:29 PM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (Ray Krause) 28. 01:30 PM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (Ray Krause) 29. 01:35 PM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (Ray Krause) 30. 01:50 PM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (Ray Krause) 31. 02:06 PM - Re: Light weight fabric (Ray Krause) 32. 02:08 PM - Re: Saturday afternoon patrol (DandD Boyd) 33. 02:11 PM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (Jack) 34. 02:36 PM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (Jim Boyer) 35. 03:10 PM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (gboothe5@comcast.net) 36. 03:44 PM - Steve from Owings, MD (kevinpurtee) 37. 05:24 PM - Re: Steve from Owings, MD (Jack) 38. 06:04 PM - Pietenpol Purchase!!! (Charles Burkholder) 39. 06:04 PM - Pietenpol Purchase!!! (Charles Burkholder) 40. 06:14 PM - Re: Pietenpol Purchase!!! (Gary Boothe) 41. 06:16 PM - Here's the picture titled "Into the barn it goes" (Charles Burkholder) 42. 06:20 PM - Emailing: Pietenpol 040.jpg (Charles Burkholder) 43. 06:22 PM - Re: Here's the picture titled "Into the barn it goes" (Gary Boothe) 44. 06:22 PM - Re: Here's the picture titled "Into the barn it goes" (Ken Bickers) 45. 06:31 PM - Re: Here's the picture titled "Into the barn it goes" (Charles Burkholder) 46. 07:24 PM - Re: Here's the picture titled "Into the barn it goes" (Bill Church) 47. 07:45 PM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (Ray Krause) 48. 07:52 PM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (Ray Krause) 49. 07:55 PM - Re: Chris Tracy's Progress (Ray Krause) 50. 08:49 PM - Re: Re: Here's the picture titled "Into the barn it goes" (Ray Krause) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:46 AM PST US From: "Chris" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Jim I plan on riveting and sealing just like an RV- something wing. I'll need Gary's rivet puller at some point down the line but I'll probably come on over and get it because I haven't seen you in while. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 3:22 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Chris your tank looks good. I liked the picture of the center baffle. So now are you going to seal it or have it welded? if you need Gary's rivet puller send me a note and I will ship it to you. Cheers, Jim ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:07:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress From: Jack Light for me, plenty good.. Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:03 AM, Ray Krause wrote: > Hi Gary, > > Nice to see you have made it to the airport, flying? Also nice to see Chr is is making progress! I have been stalled for the last 7weeks. > > Gary, what weight fabric did you use on your plane? How about some of you o ther folks? Anyone using the light material, or all the medium? > > I just took the EEA Fabric class this weekend at Watsonville, excellent cl ass. I learned a lot about the Poly Fiber System. Now I must start thinkin g about this. One fellow has 32 yards of the light weight available at a goo d price. Should I use it? I plan on using the Stewart System, but the fabri c is the same. > > Thanks, > > > Ray Krause > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 24, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > >> While doing some maintenance at the hangar yesterday, with the assistance of Curt Merdan who was on a lay-over, Chris Tracy dropped by with his beaut iful daughter, Rachel, to show us his progress on his wing tank. >> >> Looking great, Chris!!! >> >> Gary Boothe >> NX308MB >> >> > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:07:55 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Done covering!!! Chris absolutely beautiful, I'm jealous! Jack Textor Des Moines, IA -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Rusch Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:04 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Done covering!!! Finally finished the fuselage this weekend...I had maybe a shot glass full of Eco glue left from a gallon...came close. Prime it this week and paint the next. Then final assembly! I'm very anxious, as I can see the finish line. -------- NX321LR Fully Assembled Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted. Wings covered and primed, one painted Mitsubishi Powered Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396934#396934 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_159.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_244.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:07:56 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Ray, I=99m in the middle of installing the Dan Weseman 5th Bearing on the front of my Corvair, so will be down for a couple more weeks. Light weight fabric is what I used, glued on with Stewarts Eco-Bond and painted with latex primer and paint (Kelly Moore). Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:03 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Hi Gary, Nice to see you have made it to the airport, flying? Also nice to see Chris is making progress! I have been stalled for the last 7weeks. Gary, what weight fabric did you use on your plane? How about some of you other folks? Anyone using the light material, or all the medium? I just took the EEA Fabric class this weekend at Watsonville, excellent class. I learned a lot about the Poly Fiber System. Now I must start thinking about this. One fellow has 32 yards of the light weight available at a good price. Should I use it? I plan on using the Stewart System, but the fabric is the same. Thanks, Ray Krause Sent from my iPad On Mar 24, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: While doing some maintenance at the hangar yesterday, with the assistance of Curt Merdan who was on a lay-over, Chris Tracy dropped by with his beautiful daughter, Rachel, to show us his progress on his wing tank. Looking great, Chris!!! Gary Boothe NX308MB ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:44 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Saturday afternoon patrol From: helspersew@aol.com Gorgeous airplane. Very inspirational! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Douwe Blumberg Sent: Sun, Mar 24, 2013 9:01 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Saturday afternoon patrol By way of inspiration... Snuck in another flight yesterday in a tiny break from all this nasty weather. Was 50 degrees when I took off, so only put on my flying jacket, but got cold after about 45 minutes. Didn't see any Huns so I basically spent the time buzzing my house and running the engine at full rpm to break it in. Wanted to visit some grass fields in the area, but they were probably too wet so didn't want to take any chances, so basically am flying off the 40 hrs. You can see the new cooling eyebrows, which work great, but ruin the aesthetic lines of the cowling from some angles, oh well... Busted 20 hours, so halfway there!! Cruise at 2300 SEEMS to be averaging around 70. Keep on building, it's worth it!! Douwe ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:50:19 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question please!..Hor stab mounting surface. From: "bubbleboy" Thank you Chris...I appreciate your input...progress continues! Scotty -------- Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage & undercarriage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396961#396961 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:49 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Gary, You'd better offer Chris's daughter a ride in you plane so she "gets" why her dad is doing all this work. Chris - I see no reason she can't be pulling some rivets for you. You'll have to get one of those pneumatic pullers or put some short cheater bars on a hand puller, though. Me, I'm trying to figure out how to get my 6 yros to build something with me. They are more than capable of placing gussets on the ribs if I was sure they wouldn't get the epoxy anywhere near their hair/face. Actually, they did a great job tie-dying t-shirts last weekend, so maybe my fears are unfounded. I just need to find some size xx-small latex gloves... Carry on! Dan do not archive On 03/24/2013 11:44 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: > While doing some maintenance at the hangar yesterday, with the > assistance of Curt Merdan who was on a lay-over, Chris Tracy dropped by > with his beautiful daughter, Rachel, to show us his progress on his wing > tank. > > > > Looking great, Chris!!! > > > > Gary Boothe > > NX308MB > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:06 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Saturday afternoon patrol Now *that* is inspirational! Wow. Beautiful work, Douwe. Just beautiful. Cheers, Dan On 03/24/2013 08:56 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > By way of inspiration... > > Snuck in another flight yesterday in a tiny break from all this nasty > weather. Was 50 degrees when I took off, so only put on my flying jacket, > but got cold after about 45 minutes. Didn't see any Huns so I basically > spent the time buzzing my house and running the engine at full rpm to break > it in. Wanted to visit some grass fields in the area, but they were > probably too wet so didn't want to take any chances, so basically am flying > off the 40 hrs. > > You can see the new cooling eyebrows, which work great, but ruin the > aesthetic lines of the cowling from some angles, oh well... > > Busted 20 hours, so halfway there!! > > Cruise at 2300 SEEMS to be averaging around 70. > > Keep on building, it's worth it!! > > Douwe ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:22 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Done covering!!! Excellent! I'm really looking forward to seeing your Piet with that engine at Brodhead. Dan do not archive On 03/24/2013 08:04 PM, Chris Rusch wrote: > > Finally finished the fuselage this weekend...I had maybe a shot glass full of Eco glue left from a gallon...came close. Prime it this week and paint the next. Then final assembly! I'm very anxious, as I can see the finish line. > > -------- > NX321LR > Fully Assembled > Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted. > Wings covered and primed, one painted > Mitsubishi Powered > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396934#396934 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_159.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_244.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:35:24 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Saturday afternoon patrol From: "skellytown flyer" I would love to hear the sound that thing makes as it goes by. that exhaust is unique and very interesting. do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396966#396966 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:39:26 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Saturday afternoon patrol (Out of Office) Tom Stinemetze will be unavailable for the remainder of the month of March. I will be back in my office on April 1, 2013. >>> "skellytown flyer" 03/25/13 07:35 >>> I would love to hear the sound that thing makes as it goes by. that exhaust is unique and very interesting. do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396966#396966 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:45:49 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Saturday afternoon patrol From: Gardiner Mason DOUWE, if you have a c 90, why do you have to fly 40 hours? it is a certified engine is it not? gardiner On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > By way of inspiration... > > Snuck in another flight yesterday in a tiny break from all this nasty > weather. Was 50 degrees when I took off, so only put on my flying jacket, > but got cold after about 45 minutes. Didn't see any Huns so I basically > spent the time buzzing my house and running the engine at full rpm to break > it in. Wanted to visit some grass fields in the area, but they were > probably too wet so didn't want to take any chances, so basically am flying > off the 40 hrs. > > You can see the new cooling eyebrows, which work great, but ruin the > aesthetic lines of the cowling from some angles, oh well... > > Busted 20 hours, so halfway there!! > > Cruise at 2300 SEEMS to be averaging around 70. > > Keep on building, it's worth it!! > > Douwe > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:41:20 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Saturday afternoon patrol The prop has to be certified, too. Douwe's using a cloud cars prop: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=91866&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=1557f45065408a04132187dfcf2434c1 Dan ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:56:42 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Done covering!!! From: "Chris Rusch" Thanks everybody! I used the light weight 1.8 oz superflight stuff....i bought everything right from stewart systems. I remember Mike Cuys words when his skeletal plane was mocked up and he said it took a year to finish from that point....i thought no way, its almost done......well i had mine all mocked up OVER a year ago and im still not done, but very close. So, just keep on truckin!! Im shooting for Brodhead, but it may be a stretch flying off the 40 hrs. I set a goal of June 1st to have it ready for inspection. raykrause(at)frontiernet. wrote: > Absolutely beautiful! What weight fabric did you use? > > Thanks, > > Ray Krause > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 24, 2013, at 6:04 PM, "Chris Rusch" wrote: > > > > > > > > Finally finished the fuselage this weekend...I had maybe a shot glass full of Eco glue left from a gallon...came close. Prime it this week and paint the next. Then final assembly! I'm very anxious, as I can see the finish line. > > > > -------- > > NX321LR > > Fully Assembled > > Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted. > > Wings covered and primed, one painted > > Mitsubishi Powered > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396934#396934 > > > > > > > > > > Attachments: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_159.jpg > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_244.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- NX321LR Fully Assembled Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted. Wings covered and primed, one painted Mitsubishi Powered Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396982#396982 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:02:00 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Steve Dortch's Piet Steve is Alive. An Now an update for this military campaign. from an Infantry Division Operational Planner. I have shaped the battlefield by getting my spouses agreement to purchase and informed the kids that I will not be availiable most evenings and weekends. I am now setting the conditions for success. I am setting up my Garage to receive the Piet. This part of the process can get sidetracked by honeydos. IE this weekend I laid pavers for a small patio. This will be compleated by Sunday this next weekend. Then Movement to the area of Operation, moving the Fuselage to the Garage. Next is the actual crossing of the Start Point. I will start turning wrenches. I am not sure how long the campaign will take but I hope (hope is not a plan) to culminate this phase in 2 months followed by working on the wing for 1 month. This should include painting. The decisive point of this operation will be assemby of the aircraft at the airport, followed by test runs and 20 hours of flight. Blue Skies, Steve D PS the biggest problem with moving the project to my house is I will be moving away from John and his knowledge. ----- Original Message ----- From: taildrags Subject: Pietenpol-List: Steve Dortch's Piet > > Anybody seen or heard from Steve since he bought John Kuhfahl's Piet? Last I heard, he had moved it to his hangar and was working up a list > of tasks needed to finish it up and get it in the air. John is an > A&P and can sign it off when the time comes to begin test flights, > and he lives on the field where Steve keeps the airplane. > > I think that's the way it would work, since the airplane is > registered and flew previously, and to my knowledge there were no > major modifications made to it in the rebuild so it would be an > annual condition inspection with an itemized list in the logbook > of things that were done . I'm no expert on that kind of stuff > though. > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396924#396924 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:16 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rusch's progress Go Chris Go!! I for one can't wait to see your plane for many reasons. Firstly, your work is amazing so she outta be an outstanding example of craftsmanship, secondly I am seriously excited about your engine and thirdly I think your paint scheme will really set her apart. When do you aim for final assembly? Douwe ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:11:05 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet project for sale From: "899PM" Bumping to the top with a new price. $7000. 920-728-0630 -------- PAPA MIKE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396993#396993 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:43 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rusch's progress From: "Chris Rusch" Hi Douwe, I cant wait to see yours in person as well!! I hope to start final assembly in about two weeks if there are no unforeseen painting problems...Its really hard going to work now waiting to get home to work on her at night! I will post more picture as she starts coming together.. Chris -------- NX321LR Fully Assembled Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted. Wings covered and primed, one painted Mitsubishi Powered Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396994#396994 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:20:18 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Done covering!!! Hi Chris, Looking really good; that Stewarts system is nice to use isn't it. Jim B. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:59 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Hi Ray, I used the 1.7 oz fabric on my Piet. Jim B. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:23:24 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Okay Chris; It would be nice to see you over here again. I might be ready to have some help/advice on the wings! Cheers, Jim ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:12 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Saturday afternoon patrol From: "jarheadpilot82" Gardiner, To be technically correct, it's a little more than just certified engine and certified prop to get the 25 hour fly-off. The engine and prop combination has to be certifed in order to get the 25 hours. Anything else requires the 40 hour fly off. If you have insomnia issues, you can cure it by reading AC20-27G, "Certification and Operation of Amateur-Built Aircraft" in particular, Section 14.b, Table 7, which I have attached a screenshot of. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396999#396999 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/screen_shot_2013_03_25_at_113753_am_820.png ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:45:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Chris Tracy's Progress From: "curtdm(at)gmail.com" After seeing her in action with the cleco plyers, I think she's ready to pull rivets. -------- Curt Merdan Flower Mound, TX Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397000#397000 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:40 AM PST US From: Gardiner Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Saturday afternoon patrol On 3/25/2013 11:42 AM, jarheadpilot82 wrote > -->ietenpol-List message posted by: "jarheadpilot82" > > Gardiner, > > To be technically correct, it's a little more than just certified engine and certified prop to get the 25 hour fly-off. The engine and prop combination has to be certifed in order to get the 25 hours. Anything else requires the 40 hour fly off. > > If you have insomnia issues, you can cure it by reading AC20-27G, "Certification and Operation of Amateur-Built Aircraft" in particular, Section 14.b, Table 7, which I have attached a screenshot of. > > -------- > Semper Fi, > > Terry Hand > Athens, GA > > thanks guys, I hadforgotten about the prop AND engine combination requirement. Gardiner > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396999#396999 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/screen_shot_2013_03_25_at_113753_am_820.png > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:54:07 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Light weight fabric From: helspersew@aol.com Used 1.8 oz. and Stewarts paint. Flying just fine. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 01:23:24 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Done covering!!! Thanks, Chris. Still marveling at your work. Ray Krause Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2013, at 6:56 AM, "Chris Rusch" wrote: > > Thanks everybody! > I used the light weight 1.8 oz superflight stuff....i bought everything right from stewart systems. > I remember Mike Cuys words when his skeletal plane was mocked up and he said it took a year to finish from that point....i thought no way, its almost done......well i had mine all mocked up OVER a year ago and im still not done, but very close. So, just keep on truckin!! Im shooting for Brodhead, but it may be a stretch flying off the 40 hrs. > I set a goal of June 1st to have it ready for inspection. > > > > raykrause(at)frontiernet. wrote: >> Absolutely beautiful! What weight fabric did you use? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ray Krause >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Mar 24, 2013, at 6:04 PM, "Chris Rusch" wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >>> Finally finished the fuselage this weekend...I had maybe a shot glass full of Eco glue left from a gallon...came close. Prime it this week and paint the next. Then final assembly! I'm very anxious, as I can see the finish line. >>> >>> -------- >>> NX321LR >>> Fully Assembled >>> Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted. >>> Wings covered and primed, one painted >>> Mitsubishi Powered >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396934#396934 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Attachments: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_159.jpg >>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_244.jpg > > > -------- > NX321LR > Fully Assembled > Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted. > Wings covered and primed, one painted > Mitsubishi Powered > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396982#396982 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 01:29:24 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Mike, No problems with holes in the bottom of wings and tail due to kicking up roc ks? This is why the fellow with the Carbon Cub won't use it. I doubt I will be kicking up and rocks.... Can't go fast enough. Ray Sent from my iPad On Mar 24, 2013, at 10:41 PM, Michael Groah wrote: > Ray. I used the light fabric throughout. It seems to work well. > > Mike Groah. > 414MV > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 24, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Ray Krause wrote : > >> Hi Gary, >> >> Nice to see you have made it to the airport, flying? Also nice to see Ch ris is making progress! I have been stalled for the last 7weeks. >> >> Gary, what weight fabric did you use on your plane? How about some of you other folks? Anyone using the light material, or all the medium? >> >> I just took the EEA Fabric class this weekend at Watsonville, excellent c lass. I learned a lot about the Poly Fiber System. Now I must start thinki ng about this. One fellow has 32 yards of the light weight available at a go od price. Should I use it? I plan on using the Stewart System, but the fabr ic is the same. >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Ray Krause >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Mar 24, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: >> >>> While doing some maintenance at the hangar yesterday, with the assistanc e of Curt Merdan who was on a lay-over, Chris Tracy dropped by with his beau tiful daughter, Rachel, to show us his progress on his wing tank. >>> >>> Looking great, Chris!!! >>> >>> Gary Boothe >>> NX308MB >>> >>> >> >> >> ========================= ========= >> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> ========================= ========= >> cs.com >> ========================= ========= >> matronics.com/contribution >> ========================= ========= >> > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 01:30:27 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Thanks, Jack. Then that is what I will do! Ray Krause Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2013, at 3:06 AM, Jack wrote: > Light for me, plenty good.. > > Sent from my iPad > Jack Textor > > On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:03 AM, Ray Krause wrote : > >> Hi Gary, >> >> Nice to see you have made it to the airport, flying? Also nice to see Ch ris is making progress! I have been stalled for the last 7weeks. >> >> Gary, what weight fabric did you use on your plane? How about some of you other folks? Anyone using the light material, or all the medium? >> >> I just took the EEA Fabric class this weekend at Watsonville, excellent c lass. I learned a lot about the Poly Fiber System. Now I must start thinki ng about this. One fellow has 32 yards of the light weight available at a go od price. Should I use it? I plan on using the Stewart System, but the fabr ic is the same. >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Ray Krause >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Mar 24, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: >> >>> While doing some maintenance at the hangar yesterday, with the assistanc e of Curt Merdan who was on a lay-over, Chris Tracy dropped by with his beau tiful daughter, Rachel, to show us his progress on his wing tank. >>> >>> Looking great, Chris!!! >>> >>> Gary Boothe >>> NX308MB >>> >>> >> >> >> ========================= ========= >> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> ========================= ========= >> cs.com >> ========================= ========= >> matronics.com/contribution >> ========================= ========= >> > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 01:35:54 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Thanks, Gary. Then that is what I will do. You must have used exterior pai nt with UV protection? What primer did you use, UV protection there, too? S o no silver coats? Does the Eco bond stickum work right on the varnished wo od? Poly-tac requires that you paint the wood/fabric contact areas with an e poxy primer, YUCK! Wen will you be to the Lincoln airport again, would still like to fly over f or a visit? Ray Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2013, at 4:07 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > Ray, > > I=99m in the middle of installing the Dan Weseman 5th Bearing on the front of my Corvair, so will be down for a couple more weeks. > > Light weight fabric is what I used, glued on with Stewarts Eco-Bond and pa inted with latex primer and paint (Kelly Moore). > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:03 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress > > Hi Gary, > > Nice to see you have made it to the airport, flying? Also nice to see Chr is is making progress! I have been stalled for the last 7weeks. > > Gary, what weight fabric did you use on your plane? How about some of you o ther folks? Anyone using the light material, or all the medium? > > I just took the EEA Fabric class this weekend at Watsonville, excellent cl ass. I learned a lot about the Poly Fiber System. Now I must start thinkin g about this. One fellow has 32 yards of the light weight available at a goo d price. Should I use it? I plan on using the Stewart System, but the fabri c is the same. > > Thanks, > > > Ray Krause > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 24, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > While doing some maintenance at the hangar yesterday, with the assistance o f Curt Merdan who was on a lay-over, Chris Tracy dropped by with his beautif ul daughter, Rachel, to show us his progress on his wing tank. > > Looking great, Chris!!! > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 01:50:16 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Thanks, Jim. It seems as though everyone used it......that is what I will do. Ray Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Jim Boyer wrote: > Hi Ray, > > I used the 1.7 oz fabric on my Piet. > > Jim B. > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 02:06:20 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Light weight fabric Thanks, Dan! Love the picture! Light weight, it is. Ray Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:53 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote: > Used 1.8 oz. and Stewarts paint. Flying just fine. > > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN > > > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 02:08:06 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Saturday afternoon patrol From: DandD Boyd Very Nice!! On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Dan Yocum wrote: > > The prop has to be certified, too. Douwe's using a cloud cars prop: > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=91866&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=1557f45065408a04132187dfcf2434c1 > > Dan > > ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 02:11:22 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress From: Jack Yes it does Ray but I suggest a good sanding... Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Mar 25, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Ray Krause wrote: > Thanks, Gary. Then that is what I will do. You must have used exterior p aint with UV protection? What primer did you use, UV protection there, too? So no silver coats? Does the Eco bond stickum work right on the varnished w ood? Poly-tac requires that you paint the wood/fabric contact areas with an epoxy primer, YUCK! > > Wen will you be to the Lincoln airport again, would still like to fly over for a visit? > > Ray > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 25, 2013, at 4:07 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > >> Ray, >> >> I=99m in the middle of installing the Dan Weseman 5th Bearing on th e front of my Corvair, so will be down for a couple more weeks. >> >> Light weight fabric is what I used, glued on with Stewarts Eco-Bond and p ainted with latex primer and paint (Kelly Moore). >> >> Gary Boothe >> NX308MB >> >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-l ist-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause >> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:03 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress >> >> Hi Gary, >> >> Nice to see you have made it to the airport, flying? Also nice to see Ch ris is making progress! I have been stalled for the last 7weeks. >> >> Gary, what weight fabric did you use on your plane? How about some of you other folks? Anyone using the light material, or all the medium? >> >> I just took the EEA Fabric class this weekend at Watsonville, excellent c lass. I learned a lot about the Poly Fiber System. Now I must start thinki ng about this. One fellow has 32 yards of the light weight available at a go od price. Should I use it? I plan on using the Stewart System, but the fabr ic is the same. >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Ray Krause >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Mar 24, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: >> >> While doing some maintenance at the hangar yesterday, with the assistance of Curt Merdan who was on a lay-over, Chris Tracy dropped by with his beaut iful daughter, Rachel, to show us his progress on his wing tank. >> >> Looking great, Chris!!! >> >> Gary Boothe >> NX308MB >> >> >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> http://forums.matronics.com >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> ========================= ========= >> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> ========================= ========= >> cs.com >> ========================= ========= >> matronics.com/contribution >> ========================= ========= >> > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 02:36:13 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress It works fine Ray also the glue works fine gluing fabric to the wood. No need to use special epoxy primer first. It is much nicer to use than the poly fiber process as far as smell and toxicity of chemicals used. Cheers, Jim ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 03:10:21 PM PST US From: gboothe5@comcast.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Ray, What Jim said about bonding to varnish.... Fire up that little hot rod of yours, and fly over this Saturday morning. I 'm in B6, on the far south side still... Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Krause" Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 1:35:31 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Thanks, Gary. Then that is what I will do. You must have used exterior pain t with UV protection? What primer did you use, UV protection there, too? So no silver coats? Does the Eco bond stickum work right on the varnished woo d? Poly-tac requires that you paint the wood/fabric contact areas with an e poxy primer, YUCK! Wen will you be to the Lincoln airport again, would still like to fly over for a visit? Ray Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2013, at 4:07 AM, "Gary Boothe" < gboothe5@comcast.net > wrote: Ray, I=99m in the middle of installing the Dan Weseman 5 th Bearing on the front of my Corvair, so will be down for a couple more weeks. Light weight fabric is what I used, glued on with Stewarts Eco-Bond and pai nted with latex primer and paint (Kelly Moore). Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Ray Krause Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:03 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Hi Gary, Nice to see you have made it to the airport, flying? Also nice to see Chris is making progress! I have been stalled for the last 7weeks. Gary, what weight fabric did you use on your plane? How about some of you o ther folks? Anyone using the light material, or all the medium? I just took the EEA Fabric class this weekend at Watsonville, excellent cla ss. I learned a lot about the Poly Fiber System. Now I must start thinking about this. One fellow has 32 yards of the light weight available at a good price. Should I use it? I plan on using the Stewart System, but the fabric is the same. Thanks, Ray Krause Sent from my iPad On Mar 24, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "Gary Boothe" < gboothe5@comcast.net > wrote:
While doing some maintenance at the hangar yesterday, with the assistance o f Curt Merdan who was on a lay-over, Chris Tracy dropped by with his beauti ful daughter, Rachel, to show us his progress on his wing tank. Looking great, Chris!!! Gary Boothe NX308MB
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== ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 03:44:06 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Steve from Owings, MD From: "kevinpurtee" Was looking through the list today and clicked on Steve's website: www.mypiet.com. I didn't spend a lot of time there but I will. Thoughtful and thorough with a lot of good information. Steve's apparently been building diligently since 2008? We have a lot of nice websites out there (praise be to the Sainted Chris Tracy) and Steve's is well worth a look. Steve, if we've already met you'll have to remind me. Congratulations on a really nice project (and a daughter who welds!). -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee Rebuilding NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397037#397037 ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:13 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Steve from Owings, MD From: Jack Agreed I've been following Steve's for awhile. Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Mar 25, 2013, at 5:43 PM, "kevinpurtee" wrote: > > Was looking through the list today and clicked on Steve's website: www.mypiet.com. I didn't spend a lot of time there but I will. Thoughtful and thorough with a lot of good information. Steve's apparently been building diligently since 2008? > > We have a lot of nice websites out there (praise be to the Sainted Chris Tracy) and Steve's is well worth a look. > > Steve, if we've already met you'll have to remind me. Congratulations on a really nice project (and a daughter who welds!). > > -------- > Kevin "Axel" Purtee > Rebuilding NX899KP > Austin/San Marcos, TX > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397037#397037 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 06:04:14 PM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Purchase!!! Pietenpol 005 Wings and tail feathers waiting to be loaded Pietenpol 012 Me and Bill Church loading her up! Pietenpol 022 Fuselage with Bills plans on it. Pietenpol 024 All ready to go... Left to Right-Wayne, Me and Bill Church Pietenpol 034 Into the barn it goes! Hey folks I am now a Pietenpol owner!! Am I ever excited. Been dreaming of this for years..... First off I want to thank Bill Church and Wayne for accompanying me. Your insight and advice was invaluable. Unfortunately Scott Knowlton was unable to make it. Aside from the guy that was supposed to open the hangar not keeping his schedule and us having to wait at least 2 hrs on him, the day went excellent. It was pretty much what I was expecting/picturing. Good workmanship. The wood quality is excellent. We couldn't figure out what kind of glue/epoxy was used though. The wing spars have about 25 grains per inch. Wings are almost ready to cover although I have yet to carefully compare them to plans. Fuselage doesn't have wing center piece or landing gear but has most metal fittings attached. Doesn't have any tubing, plans, landing gear or extra plywood and spruce. All the control system is in and the tail surface control cables are in place. It was shrinkwrapped so it kept out most dirt, dust and bird crap. Bill and wayne and I went over the whole thing and I knew right away it was a go. Then me and Bill went to work at packing it. We managed to fit everything in the 14 ft trailer. Shook hands with everybody and did our parting goodbyes and pulled out of there by 3:30. I stayed with freinds for the weekend and got back here last night. The trip home went good and I did alot of wincing over the bridge bumps. Didn't have time to unpack it until tonight. All tucked away in our barns haymow and I've already sat in the cockpit and made engine noises and did a few stalls and landings:-) Now I've gotta order a set of plans a and figure out where to start. And figure out what I all need to get restarted again. Looks overwhelming right now...... Feel free to ask any questions..... Very happy, Charles Burkholder ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 06:04:15 PM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Purchase!!! Pietenpol 005 Wings and tail feathers waiting to be loaded Pietenpol 012 Me and Bill Church loading her up! Pietenpol 022 Fuselage with Bills plans on it. Pietenpol 024 All ready to go... Left to Right-Wayne, Me and Bill Church Pietenpol 034 Into the barn it goes! Hey folks I am now a Pietenpol owner!! Am I ever excited. Been dreaming of this for years..... First off I want to thank Bill Church and Wayne for accompanying me. Your insight and advice was invaluable. Unfortunately Scott Knowlton was unable to make it. Aside from the guy that was supposed to open the hangar not keeping his schedule and us having to wait at least 2 hrs on him, the day went excellent. It was pretty much what I was expecting/picturing. Good workmanship. The wood quality is excellent. We couldn't figure out what kind of glue/epoxy was used though. The wing spars have about 25 grains per inch. Wings are almost ready to cover although I have yet to carefully compare them to plans. Fuselage doesn't have wing center piece or landing gear but has most metal fittings attached. Doesn't have any tubing, plans, landing gear or extra plywood and spruce. All the control system is in and the tail surface control cables are in place. It was shrinkwrapped so it kept out most dirt, dust and bird crap. Bill and wayne and I went over the whole thing and I knew right away it was a go. Then me and Bill went to work at packing it. We managed to fit everything in the 14 ft trailer. Shook hands with everybody and did our parting goodbyes and pulled out of there by 3:30. I stayed with freinds for the weekend and got back here last night. The trip home went good and I did alot of wincing over the bridge bumps. Didn't have time to unpack it until tonight. All tucked away in our barns haymow and I've already sat in the cockpit and made engine noises and did a few stalls and landings:-) Now I've gotta order a set of plans a and figure out where to start. And figure out what I all need to get restarted again. Looks overwhelming right now...... Feel free to ask any questions..... Very happy, Charles Burkholder ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 06:14:00 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Purchase!!! From: Gary Boothe CONGRATULATIONS, Charles! Keep the pictures coming... Gary Boothe NX308MB Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2013, at 6:03 PM, "Charles Burkholder" w rote: > > Pietenpol 005 Wings and tail feathers waiting to be loaded > Pietenpol 012 Me and Bill Church loading her up! > Pietenpol 022 Fuselage with Bills plans on it. > Pietenpol 024 All ready to go... Left to Right-Wayne, Me and Bill Church > Pietenpol 034 Into the barn it goes! > > Hey folks I am now a Pietenpol owner!! Am I ever excited. Been dreaming of this for years..... First off I want to thank Bill Church and Wayne for acc ompanying me. Your insight and advice was invaluable. Unfortunately Scott Kn owlton was unable to make it. > Aside from the guy that was supposed to open the hangar not keeping his sc hedule and us having to wait at least 2 hrs on him, the day went excellent. I t was pretty much what I was expecting/picturing. Good workmanship. The > wood quality is excellent. We couldn't figure out what kind of glue/epoxy > was used though. The wing spars have about 25 grains per inch. Wings are > almost ready to cover although I have yet to carefully compare them to > plans. Fuselage doesn't have wing center piece or landing gear but has mos t > metal fittings attached. Doesn't have any tubing, plans, landing gear or > extra plywood and spruce. All the control system is in and the tail surfac e control cables are in place. It > was shrinkwrapped so it kept out most dirt, dust and bird crap. Bill and > wayne and I went over the whole thing and I knew right away it was a go. > Then me and Bill went to work at packing it. We > managed to fit everything in the 14 ft trailer. Shook hands with everybody > and did our parting goodbyes and pulled out of there by 3:30. I stayed wit h > freinds for the weekend and got back here last night. The trip home went > good and I did alot of wincing over the bridge bumps. Didn't have time to > unpack it until tonight. All tucked away in our barns haymow and I've > already sat in the cockpit and made engine noises and did a few stalls and > landings:-) Now I've gotta order a set of plans a and figure out where to > start. And figure out what I all need to get restarted again. Looks > overwhelming right now...... Feel free to ask any questions..... > Very happy, Charles Burkholder > > > > ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 06:16:56 PM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Here's the picture titled "Into the barn it goes" ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 06:20:28 PM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Emailing: Pietenpol 040.jpg Ok full power.... keep that nose going straight with right rudder. Ok tails coming up and wires are singing. Should be ready to........... Ok maybe in a year I can be doing that for real... CB ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 06:22:30 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Here's the picture titled "Into the barn it goes" From: Gary Boothe That's as far as Bill could toss it? Gary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2013, at 6:16 PM, "Charles Burkholder" w rote: > > ________________________________ Message 44 ____________________________________ Time: 06:22:52 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Here's the picture titled "Into the barn it goes" From: Ken Bickers Charles, what a great image! This deserves to be in one of the aviation magazines. I can't wait to see how it looks when it comes out the other side.Cheers, Ken On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Charles Burkholder wrote: > ________________________________ Message 45 ____________________________________ Time: 06:31:17 PM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Here's the picture titled "Into the barn it goes" Right!! Actually this is back at my place and my cousin is holding it while I run upstairs to pull it up! Picture copyright is free so put it in any magazine or website or calender you want!!! cb ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Boothe To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:21 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Here's the picture titled "Into the barn it goes" That's as far as Bill could toss it? Gary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2013, at 6:16 PM, "Charles Burkholder" wrote: 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 03/25/13 ________________________________ Message 46 ____________________________________ Time: 07:24:07 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Here's the picture titled "Into the barn it goes" From: "Bill Church" That's the new EXTREMELY light dacron on the wing. Great photo. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397059#397059 ________________________________ Message 47 ____________________________________ Time: 07:45:56 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress I plan to be there with lots of questions and oohs and aaaaws about you plan e and covering. Sounds exciting! Ray Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2013, at 3:10 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote: > Ray, > > What Jim said about bonding to varnish.... > > Fire up that little hot rod of yours, and fly over this Saturday morning. I 'm in B6, on the far south side still... > > Gary > > From: "Ray Krause" > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 1:35:31 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress > > Thanks, Gary. Then that is what I will do. You must have used exterior p aint with UV protection? What primer did you use, UV protection there, too? So no silver coats? Does the Eco bond stickum work right on the varnished w ood? Poly-tac requires that you paint the wood/fabric contact areas with an epoxy primer, YUCK! > > Wen will you be to the Lincoln airport again, would still like to fly over for a visit? > > Ray > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 25, 2013, at 4:07 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > Ray, > > I=99m in the middle of installing the Dan Weseman 5th Bearing on the front of my Corvair, so will be down for a couple more weeks. > > Light weight fabric is what I used, glued on with Stewarts Eco-Bond and pa inted with latex primer and paint (Kelly Moore). > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:03 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress > > Hi Gary, > > Nice to see you have made it to the airport, flying? Also nice to see Chr is is making progress! I have been stalled for the last 7weeks. > > Gary, what weight fabric did you use on your plane? How about some of you o ther folks? Anyone using the light material, or all the medium? > > I just took the EEA Fabric class this weekend at Watsonville, excellent cl ass. I learned a lot about the Poly Fiber System. Now I must start thinkin g about this. One fellow has 32 yards of the light weight available at a goo d price. Should I use it? I plan on using the Stewart System, but the fabri c is the same. > > Thanks, > > > Ray Krause > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 24, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > While doing some maintenance at the hangar yesterday, with the assistance o f Curt Merdan who was on a lay-over, Chris Tracy dropped by with his beautif ul daughter, Rachel, to show us his progress on his wing tank. > > Looking great, Chris!!! > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > ========= > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ========= > cs.com > ========= > matronics.com/contribution > ========= > > > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 48 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:19 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Thanks or all the responses about covering. When I planned on going o the EE A Fabric workshop, I did not realize they would only be speaking about the P oly-Fiber system. I felt a little bad about being there and knowing I would not be using their system. When he said their Poly-tak required the two par t epoxy primer on the wood/fabric contact areas, I knew it was not for me! I t is bad enough just varnishing the damn wings. Hope to meet up with Gary this weekend. Ray Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: > It works fine Ray also the glue works fine gluing fabric to the wood. No n eed to use special epoxy primer first. > > It is much nicer to use than the poly fiber process as far as smell and to xicity of chemicals used. > > Cheers, > > Jim > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 49 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:26 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress Thanks, Jack. I have already sanded most of the wing parts that will contact the fabric; a t least on the left wing. Sanding and painting are two different things. Thanks again, Ray Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Jack wrote: > Yes it does Ray but I suggest a good sanding... > > Sent from my iPad > Jack Textor > > On Mar 25, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Ray Krause wrote: > >> Thanks, Gary. Then that is what I will do. You must have used exterior p aint with UV protection? What primer did you use, UV protection there, too? So no silver coats? Does the Eco bond stickum work right on the varnished w ood? Poly-tac requires that you paint the wood/fabric contact areas with an epoxy primer, YUCK! >> >> Wen will you be to the Lincoln airport again, would still like to fly ove r for a visit? >> >> Ray >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Mar 25, 2013, at 4:07 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: >> >>> Ray, >>> >>> I=99m in the middle of installing the Dan Weseman 5th Bearing on t he front of my Corvair, so will be down for a couple more weeks. >>> >>> Light weight fabric is what I used, glued on with Stewarts Eco-Bond and p ainted with latex primer and paint (Kelly Moore). >>> >>> Gary Boothe >>> NX308MB >>> >>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol- list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause >>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:03 PM >>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chris Tracy's Progress >>> >>> Hi Gary, >>> >>> Nice to see you have made it to the airport, flying? Also nice to see C hris is making progress! I have been stalled for the last 7weeks. >>> >>> Gary, what weight fabric did you use on your plane? How about some of yo u other folks? Anyone using the light material, or all the medium? >>> >>> I just took the EEA Fabric class this weekend at Watsonville, excellent c lass. I learned a lot about the Poly Fiber System. Now I must start thinki ng about this. One fellow has 32 yards of the light weight available at a go od price. Should I use it? I plan on using the Stewart System, but the fabr ic is the same. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> Ray Krause >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Mar 24, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: >>> >>> While doing some maintenance at the hangar yesterday, with the assistanc e of Curt Merdan who was on a lay-over, Chris Tracy dropped by with his beau tiful daughter, Rachel, to show us his progress on his wing tank. >>> >>> Looking great, Chris!!! >>> >>> Gary Boothe >>> NX308MB >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >>> http://forums.matronics.com >>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> >>> >>> ======================== >>> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >>> ======================== >>> cs.com >>> ======================== >>> matronics.com/contribution >>> ======================== >>> >> >> >> ========================= ========= >> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> ========================= ========= >> cs.com >> ========================= ========= >> matronics.com/contribution >> ========================= ========= >> > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 50 ____________________________________ Time: 08:49:07 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Here's the picture titled "Into the barn it goes" Where do you get that type of fabric? Congratulations. I bet there are a lot of those type of finds out there in lot of barns in the Midwest. I'm really happy for you, saved yourself a lot of work! Ray Krause SkyScout Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:23 PM, "Bill Church" wrote: > > That's the new EXTREMELY light dacron on the wing. > Great photo. > > Bill C. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397059#397059 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.