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1. 03:35 AM - Re: Another entroduction (Jack Phillips)
2. 04:59 AM - welcome Joe (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 05:04 AM - ...and welcome Craig! (Douwe Blumberg)
4. 05:05 AM - Re: Another entroduction (nightmare)
5. 05:09 AM - Re: Re: What you can accomplish if you just spend some time buildin (Charles Burkholder)
6. 05:15 AM - Re: Varnish Temperature (Bill Church)
7. 05:27 AM - Re: Another entroduction (Gary Boothe)
8. 05:28 AM - Re: satellite tracking devices (AircamperN11MS)
9. 05:40 AM - Re: Varnish Temperature (tools)
10. 06:06 AM - Re: satellite tracking devices (kevinpurtee)
11. 06:13 AM - Re: Varnish Temperature (tools)
12. 06:19 AM - Re: Re: Varnish Temperature (Gary Boothe)
13. 06:31 AM - Craig , new to list (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
14. 07:57 AM - Re: Craig , new to list (Michael Perez)
15. 08:11 AM - Re: Another entroduction (BYD)
16. 08:19 AM - Re: Re: Another entroduction (Craig Aho)
17. 08:20 AM - West coast Pieter's (AircamperN11MS)
18. 08:36 AM - Re: Another entroduction (CraigAho)
19. 09:37 AM - Re: Frazier Lake (V Groah)
20. 09:40 AM - before the wheel was invented (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
21. 09:51 AM - Re: Re: Varnish Temperature (Charles Burkholder)
22. 10:03 AM - Re: ...and welcome Craig! (CraigAho)
23. 10:16 AM - Re: Re: What you can accomplish if you just spend some time buildin (V Groah)
24. 10:42 AM - Re: West coast Pieter's (Ray Krause)
25. 10:53 AM - Re: West coast Pieter's (Michael Groah)
26. 10:59 AM - Re: West coast Pieter's (AircamperN11MS)
27. 11:04 AM - Re: West coast Pieter's (AircamperN11MS)
28. 11:29 AM - Re: Re: West coast Pieter's (Michael Groah)
29. 12:59 PM - New Builder just starting (Mike Rich)
30. 01:29 PM - Re: New Builder Introduction (K5YAC)
31. 01:34 PM - Re: New Builder just starting (tools)
32. 02:00 PM - Re: New Builder just starting (K5YAC)
33. 02:11 PM - Snf (Dick N)
34. 02:12 PM - Re: Re: New Builder just starting (Mike Rich)
35. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: New Builder just starting (Mike Rich)
36. 02:20 PM - Re: Snf (Ben Charvet)
37. 02:58 PM - Re: Snf (Ryan M)
38. 03:25 PM - Welcome to Mike Rich from Dallas (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
39. 03:55 PM - Re: Welcome to Mike Rich from Dallas (Mike Rich)
40. 04:16 PM - Re: Snf (Ryan M)
41. 04:23 PM - Re: West coast Pieter's (Gary Boothe)
42. 04:25 PM - Re: Welcome to Mike Rich from Dallas (Gary Boothe)
43. 04:38 PM - Re: Snf (Dick N)
44. 04:58 PM - Re: West coast Pieter's (Michael Groah)
45. 05:16 PM - Re: satellite tracking devices (Fun2av8)
46. 05:57 PM - Re: Re: satellite tracking devices (Gary Boothe)
47. 07:44 PM - Re: Re: West coast Pieter's (Ray Krause)
48. 07:45 PM - Re: New Builder Introduction (tools)
49. 08:02 PM - Re: What you can accomplish if you just spend some time building (taildrags)
50. 08:16 PM - Re: What you can accomplish if you just spend some time building (Mark Roberts)
51. 08:22 PM - Re: West coast Pieter's (Mark Roberts)
52. 08:26 PM - Re: What you can accomplish if you just spend some time buildin (Mark Roberts)
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Subject: | Another entroduction |
Welcome back, Craig! I remember seeing pictures of your Air Camper and
wondered whatever happened to it. You finished yours about the time I was
starting to build mine.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of CraigAho
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 12:16 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another entroduction
Hello from Seattle, WA. I look forward to the Pietenpol Fellowship with my
fellow builders. I have completed one Air Camper back in 1996 that took me a
little over two years to build. I am now about 15 years into my second one
but expect to speed up my building progress now that I am retired. I have a
Fuselage, wing ribs, tail feathers and most all the fittings and a fresh
C65/85 ready to go. My Air Camper NX40772 was sold about a year after
completion to a couple of fellows in my area that enjoyed it untill it was
destroyed in a Hanger fire that consumed 6 aircraft. I recieved all my
original hardware and metal parts back which I have ready to reinstall on my
new aircraft.
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Welcome to the group Joe!
You're lucky in that you have some good builders and awfully nice builders
right around you and as you've already observed, you can usually get your
question answered (eventually) on the list.
Douwe
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Subject: | ...and welcome Craig! |
Craig,
When I bought my project in 02, it came with a stack of back issues and I've
seen many a pic of your beautiful ship in those magazines. I always loved
it and am excited you'll be producing another.
What will this one be like? Same gear etc?
Douwe
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Subject: | Re: Another entroduction |
Beautiful plane, sad story, but great to hear that part of plane will be reincarnated.
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: What you can accomplish if you just spend some |
time buildin
wow I hope he knows he's one lucky kid. Gets to fly pops planes!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Bickers
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: What you can accomplish if you just
spend some time buildin
Guys,
If any of you are heading to Frazier Lake for the West Coast Pietenpol
fly-in in June from the San Luis Obispo area and wouldn't mind giving a
ride to a college student, my son Kevin would doubtless jump at the
chance to tag along. Some of you -- Gary, for instance -- may remember
Kevin from past Brodhead fly-ins.
He's the teenager that was flying the brown and cream Pacer every
chance he got, at least when he wasn't bumming rides from guys with
Pietenpols. He's now finishing his freshmen year at Cal Poly as an
aerospace engineering major.
Quick story about him. Two years ago when we arrived at Brodhead, he
started unloading the Pacer as quickly as he could so that he could go
for a flight without all our camping gear (or me) in it. He had gotten
his license about six months prior, right after turning 17. One of the
fellows there cautioned him that as hot and humid as it was the density
altitude was probably 2500 ft. He said, 'yeah, I know. I've never flown
that low.'
For those that don't know, our field elevation here in Colorado is
just over 5000. Density altitudes in the thin air in summer can easily
reach 8 to 9 thousand feet He really hadn't flown that low.
He's now got about 250 hours: 10 in tricycle airplanes, the rest in
taildraggers, mostly in the Pacer.
Let me know off-line if someone is heading that way and I'll pass
along his contact information.
Cheers, Ken
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
wrote:
<mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
Thanks guys!
I am looking forward to Frazier Lake! It will be good to see
everyone again. AND, there will be at least 2 NEW Piets there (will Mike
let you ride in the front seat on the way over Vic ;-)
Poor Charlie's won't be the only Piet there this year! I'm sure he
got tired of wiping off all the drool from us Pieters in Progress...
Thanks for the kind words. Feels good to make some progress...
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Subject: | Re: Varnish Temperature |
Charles,
Minwax doesn't seem to publish a range of suitable application temperatures in
their online literature, or on the can. However, the product most likely has
been formulated to work best at or around "room temperature" (20C, 68F). Following
is a link to a similar question posed on an online forum discussing the
use of Helmsman Spar Urethane on canoe paddles, that may be of some assistance.
http://www.bwca.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=forum.thread&threadId 7666&forumID=15&confID=1
Basically, I think you're going to have to wait a month or so, till the weather
warms up a bit, before applying the varnish.
On another note, I find that I also feel comfortable when Gary is wearing a sweater.
Bill C.
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Subject: | Another entroduction |
Welcome back, Craig! The memory of #1 still lives on at
www.westcoastpiet.com!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of CraigAho
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:16 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another entroduction
Hello from Seattle, WA. I look forward to the Pietenpol Fellowship with my
fellow builders. I have completed one Air Camper back in 1996 that took me a
little over two years to build. I am now about 15 years into my second one
but expect to speed up my building progress now that I am retired. I have a
Fuselage, wing ribs, tail feathers and most all the fittings and a fresh
C65/85 ready to go. My Air Camper NX40772 was sold about a year after
completion to a couple of fellows in my area that enjoyed it untill it was
destroyed in a Hanger fire that consumed 6 aircraft. I recieved all my
original hardware and metal parts back which I have ready to reinstall on my
new aircraft.
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Subject: | Re: satellite tracking devices |
I love my SPOT. I take it everywhere. In the plane, On the motorcycle and in
the RV. Great device.
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Varnish Temperature |
Actually Minwax does publish a min temp on their site under "basics of wood preparation"
I just typed "temperature" into the search function on the home page.
TEMPERATURE AND HUMIDITY
All wood finishing products depend on evaporation during the drying process. Low
air temperatures and high relative humidity slow evaporation and increase the
length of time your wood project will remain tacky. Before starting your wood
project, make sure the temperature will remain above 65 degrees and the humidity
around 50% during both application and the drying process.
I think Bill's recommendation of "around room temp" would probably work for nearly
all products. Lager yeast being the only exception I can think of, unless
you want a steam style beer...
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Subject: | Re: satellite tracking devices |
The SPOT is all I've used, Douwe, but it works great. I have my personal one and
have bought several for crews at work. I rarely fly, personally or professionally,
without one.
I've been told there are devices that are more aviation-centric but I don't know
anything about them.
Didn't really answer your question but it's more data for you.
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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Subject: | Re: Varnish Temperature |
The boat guys seem to use Epifane, which has this on their site...
When applying one-component products, the minimum application and surface temperature
should be no less than 40 F. (5 C). Two- component products should not
be applied in temperatures under 50- 55 F. (10-12 C).
During application, the relative humidity should not exceed 85%. When applying
two-component products, a maximum humidity level of 70% should be observed. Application
of paint in conditions above or below these levels may have repercussions
on the drying and hardening qualities of the product.
The minimum temperature of the object to be painted should be 5 F. (3 C.) above
the point of condensation.
Is it colder than 40 deg in the shop? Seems like this stuff should work pretty
good. Many people point out that the issue with colder temps is condensation,
which can definitely blush the finish, not so important if the varnish is for
properties rather than show, as in the inside of a wing or something.
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Subject: | Re: Varnish Temperature |
I find it curious that, if a manufacturer were concerned about application
temps, they would bury the info on a website.
Charles - Speaking anecdotally, and to your desire to get something done
while awaiting the first blossoms of Spring, just last Friday night I
re-varnished my prop with Minwax Spar Varnish Semi Satin. It was about 50
deg when I started and temps got down to 38 that night. Next morning it was
ready for transportation to the hangar.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tools
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:41 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Varnish Temperature
Actually Minwax does publish a min temp on their site under "basics of wood
preparation"
I just typed "temperature" into the search function on the home page.
TEMPERATURE AND HUMIDITY
All wood finishing products depend on evaporation during the drying process.
Low air temperatures and high relative humidity slow evaporation and
increase the length of time your wood project will remain tacky. Before
starting your wood project, make sure the temperature will remain above 65
degrees and the humidity around 50% during both application and the drying
process.
I think Bill's recommendation of "around room temp" would probably work for
nearly all products. Lager yeast being the only exception I can think of,
unless you want a steam style beer...
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Subject: | Craig , new to list |
Welcome back Craig---good to hear you're retired now and well along on your airplane!
All the best,
Mike C. from Ohio
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Subject: | Re: Craig , new to list |
Welcome back Craig and welcome to the list Joe P!
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: Another entroduction |
Hey Craig,
I remember flying up and looking at your ship before the fire. Good to hear you're
back into building. aerocarjake is building near you and I have a Model-A
version waiting for inspection down at Tacoma airport if you venture South sometime.
Bill Sayre
NX626E
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Subject: | Re: Another entroduction |
Hello Bill=2C I would love to visit and take a look at your aircraft someti
me. And if your up my way Stop by for coffee and a garage visit. Craig425-7
78-7650
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another entroduction
> From: billsayre@ymail.com
> Date: Tue=2C 2 Apr 2013 08:10:36 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> Hey Craig=2C
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> I remember flying up and looking at your ship before the fire. Good to h
ear you're back into building. aerocarjake is building near you and I have
a Model-A version waiting for inspection down at Tacoma airport if you ven
ture South sometime.
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Subject: | West coast Pieter's |
Pieter's
How many of you would like to spend some time (one day or more) barnstorming around
central CA after the Hollister gathering? It would be a fun time for all.
I am interested, anyone else???
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Another entroduction |
Thank you all for the Welcomes, It is especially nice to know that my Friend Mike
Cuy is active on the list. I have already incorporated some features from Mikes
aircraft with my current build as I had lots of pictures and diagrams Mike
had shared with me while he and I were building. I have had the desire to build
the split Axel gear but think I will stick with the straight Axel mainly because
I still have all the parts and my fuselage fittings etc. are made for the
wood gear. I would like to use brakes like the disc brakes on Mikes and will
have to look through my old pictures and videos to remember how they are actuated.
I think they are heel type? I will be building a little bit simpler this
build with no upholstery etc. I will start taking pictures of my build for the
list. I sure have enjoyed all the Beautiful Pietenpols that all of you have
been building.
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Paul=2C
Would be great if your schedule worked out=2C Looks like we will have seve
ral piets there this year if the weather is good. Hope to see you there .
Vic NX414MV
> From: gboothe5@comcast.net
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Frazier Lake
> Date: Mon=2C 1 Apr 2013 12:19:19 -0700
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> Paul=2C
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> My guess is 1.5 - 2 hrs=2C depending on traffic. Sure would like to see y
ou
> there.....
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> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nightmare
> Sent: Monday=2C April 01=2C 2013 11:16 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What you can accomplish if you just spend so
me
> time building
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> Looks great Mark! Refresh my memory=2C is that 2 inches wider and deeper?
> Looks nice and roomy. I may see you west coast guys at your flyin. I ofte
n
> have sfo layovers. How long of a drive is frazier lake from sfo?
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> Started 8-3-12
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Subject: | before the wheel was invented |
That was funny in the olden days when I looked thru my Pietenpol files (paper)
a few months ago and I ran across all kinds of letters
(hand written, not printed out) and photos, some of which were photos Craig sent
to me to show me his progress on his Pietenpol.
Those were the kind of photos where you took a roll of film to the drug store and
actually had to wait an hour or a day or two to get
prints. I'm amazed at how far we've come with technology when I look thru my
files from the early to mid 1990's.
And Craig---in case the other guys haven't mentioned it yet you just HAVE to check
out Chris Tracy's Westcoast Piet site.
There are a ZILLION photos of tons of Piet projects on there and completed Piets
and many build-in-progress photos.
This could keep a Piet enthusiast busy for hours and hours, just looking at all
these great photos and ideas others have shared and
Chris has been so kind to share----check it out when you get a chance. http://www.westcoastpiet.com/
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: Varnish Temperature |
Ya I found it strange. I don't have to worry about it now because I brought
the fuselage down into the warm basement..... Where there's a will there's a
way:-)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Varnish Temperature
>
> I find it curious that, if a manufacturer were concerned about application
> temps, they would bury the info on a website.
>
> Charles - Speaking anecdotally, and to your desire to get something done
> while awaiting the first blossoms of Spring, just last Friday night I
> re-varnished my prop with Minwax Spar Varnish Semi Satin. It was about 50
> deg when I started and temps got down to 38 that night. Next morning it
> was
> ready for transportation to the hangar.
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tools
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:41 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Varnish Temperature
>
>
> Actually Minwax does publish a min temp on their site under "basics of
> wood
> preparation"
>
> I just typed "temperature" into the search function on the home page.
>
> TEMPERATURE AND HUMIDITY
>
> All wood finishing products depend on evaporation during the drying
> process.
> Low air temperatures and high relative humidity slow evaporation and
> increase the length of time your wood project will remain tacky. Before
> starting your wood project, make sure the temperature will remain above 65
> degrees and the humidity around 50% during both application and the drying
> process.
>
> I think Bill's recommendation of "around room temp" would probably work
> for
> nearly all products. Lager yeast being the only exception I can think of,
> unless you want a steam style beer...
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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Subject: | Re: ...and welcome Craig! |
Thank you Douwe, I enjoy all your articles in the BPA newsletters.
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Subject: | Re: What you can accomplish if you just spend some |
time buildin
Mark
I will be driving over again this year with the trunk full of ice chests ag
ain. The plan is for Mandy to fly front seat with Mike. Looks like George
will be flying with them in his piet as well. A great addition to the gro
up. Thanks Looking forward to visitiing again. Vic NX414MV
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What you can accomplish if you just spend so
me time buildin
> From: mark.rbrts1@gmail.com
> Date: Mon=2C 1 Apr 2013 19:09:43 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> Thanks guys!
>
> I am looking forward to Frazier Lake! It will be good to see everyone aga
in. AND=2C there will be at least 2 NEW Piets there (will Mike let you ride
in the front seat on the way over Vic =3B-)
>
> Poor Charlie's won't be the only Piet there this year! I'm sure he got ti
red of wiping off all the drool from us Pieters in Progress...
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> Thanks for the kind words. Feels good to make some progress...
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Subject: | Re: West coast Pieter's |
Would this be restricted to Pietenpols only? Mine is not ready, but would consider
going along in my Waiex or Aeronca. Aeronca is NORCO, except hand-held.
Ray Krause!
SkyScout in progress
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 2, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
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> Pieter's
>
> How many of you would like to spend some time (one day or more) barnstorming
around central CA after the Hollister gathering? It would be a fun time for
all. I am interested, anyone else???
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: West coast Pieter's |
What did you have in mind? I have to work on that Monday ( that's the last week
of school and as a teacher I can't be gone). But I'm planning on camping at
the gathering so Sunday I still have open.
Mike Groah
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 2, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
>
> Pieter's
>
> How many of you would like to spend some time (one day or more) barnstorming
around central CA after the Hollister gathering? It would be a fun time for
all. I am interested, anyone else???
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
>
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Subject: | Re: West coast Pieter's |
Ray,
It's not important what anyone fly's. It is all about the fun in doing it. If
it fly's, it is welcome in my book. Just looking to have some fun and seeing new
airports and people.
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: West coast Pieter's |
Mike,
All I have in mind is some more flying and more camping. Anything goes in my book.
No real destinations in mind yet. Heck, just thinking out loud here, maybe
we could fly to other builders local airports and visit their projects? just
one idea. Take the gathering to their house. Do some pointing, snickering
and wishing I had done that to my plane stuff.
Other ideas are welcome,
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: West coast Pieter's |
That sounds like a lot of fun!
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 2, 2013, at 11:04 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
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> Mike,
>
> All I have in mind is some more flying and more camping. Anything goes in my
book. No real destinations in mind yet. Heck, just thinking out loud here,
maybe we could fly to other builders local airports and visit their projects?
just one idea. Take the gathering to their house. Do some pointing, snickering
and wishing I had done that to my plane stuff.
>
> Other ideas are welcome,
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397670#397670
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Subject: | New Builder just starting |
Hello everyone, my name is Mike Rich from the Dallas Tx. area. A little
about me. I have researched for the past two years many different
aircraft that would be a good build starting with a Piet,and ending with
a Piet. I've been in model aviation for 25 years winning some scale
contest and have been around full scale aviation since I was a boy with
my father and brother. They kept nagging me,"When are you going to get
your license and start flying for real" ? Well I finally did, but
there's still something missing. I'm not building anything and it's
driving me nuts!! So I joined the EAA,BPA ect. and was told this was the
place to get advice if I want to build a Pietenpol Air Camper. Everyone
in the Piet community has been very nice and down to earth...I love it.
I feel I'm finally with the right group of aviators. I have thus far
built a mockup from "Flying and Glider" to see how I would fit, bought
all the Benglis books ect.So with that said, I need to order plans now.
I'm 6'3" at 240 lbs. and I know I will need the longest fuse/
supplemental plans but I'm not sure about the rest. Do I order the whole
shabang or just parts of it? Please advise,thanks.
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Subject: | Re: New Builder Introduction |
Welcome Joe!
Like Gary said... be sure to get in touch with the good folks at www.flycorvair.com if you haven't already. Also, another excellent site that you may already know about is Chris Tracy's www.westcoastpiet.com
Be sure to keep us posted on your progress!
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
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Subject: | Re: New Builder just starting |
Wow, off to a great start, welcome aboard!
First, you ought to know folks are going to hound you to death if you don't at
least post a few pics of the mockup! That's a great idea.
Insofar as plans, I bought the whole shebang, and I'm pretty sure a lot of guys
do, just for the heck of it. Seems there's some little detail in each drawing
that's useful. Or someone will reference this or that, and you'll want to know
what's going on.
That being said, you really don't NEED any more than the FGM details... but all
in all, it's not that much more money and from what I can tell about how you've
attacked this project so far, I'd say go for it and even see if you can get
a couple of drawings from Ken Perkins (details on building horns) and something
else that I forget at the moment.
As straight forward as this plane is, there's still TONS of details you'll need
to be making decisions on (engines, airfoils, landing gear design, wheels, brakes,
wing cutouts, front doors, etc). Some are easily changed later, others
are not. The best advice I can think of at this point is to get your eyes and
carcass INTO every Piet you can. Ask around, ask if you can climb in, sit there
and make airplane noises, as much as possible.
It seems EVERY Piet you'll see, has some detail that will catch your attention.
Take LOTS of notes and pictures, put together a notebook.
Go find local owners and builders. There's lots of details under the covering,
so visiting folks at all stages of building holds as much value as seeing completed
planes.
Brodhead is highly recommended the weekend before Oshkosh, lots of eye candy and
knowledgeable folks.
No matter the variant, there's still lots of parts that are the same no matter
what, so you'll have lots to do while deciding the rest. Like all elephants,
this one is best eaten one bite at a time!
Cheers!
Tools
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Subject: | Re: New Builder just starting |
Welcome Mike!
Like tools said... get the whole shebang. As others have recently mentioned, www.westcoastpiet.com is a great resource too.
Keep us posted!
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
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Hey all
I am leaving from St. Paul, Mn. going to Sun n Fun for all of the new
people on the list since last year stop in at the wood workshop. Again
the dates of the show this year will be April 9-15.
We will be building a Pietenpol fuselage, also building wing ribs and
working on a center section for a Piet. I hope we can meet lots of
builders there.
Dick N.
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Subject: | Re: New Builder just starting |
Hey thanks for the advise, all the decisions to make is part of the fun of
it, you know eat sleep and breath it, drive your wife nuts talkin about it.
Got some help so far from some really nice men, Mike Cuy,Bill Rewey,Chuck
Gantzer, Hans Vandorvoort, and Mark C. in OK. He's a big man too you know. I
mean BIG!
----- Original Message -----
From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 3:34 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Builder just starting
>
> Wow, off to a great start, welcome aboard!
>
> First, you ought to know folks are going to hound you to death if you
> don't at least post a few pics of the mockup! That's a great idea.
>
> Insofar as plans, I bought the whole shebang, and I'm pretty sure a lot of
> guys do, just for the heck of it. Seems there's some little detail in
> each drawing that's useful. Or someone will reference this or that, and
> you'll want to know what's going on.
>
> That being said, you really don't NEED any more than the FGM details...
> but all in all, it's not that much more money and from what I can tell
> about how you've attacked this project so far, I'd say go for it and even
> see if you can get a couple of drawings from Ken Perkins (details on
> building horns) and something else that I forget at the moment.
>
> As straight forward as this plane is, there's still TONS of details you'll
> need to be making decisions on (engines, airfoils, landing gear design,
> wheels, brakes, wing cutouts, front doors, etc). Some are easily changed
> later, others are not. The best advice I can think of at this point is to
> get your eyes and carcass INTO every Piet you can. Ask around, ask if you
> can climb in, sit there and make airplane noises, as much as possible.
>
> It seems EVERY Piet you'll see, has some detail that will catch your
> attention. Take LOTS of notes and pictures, put together a notebook.
>
> Go find local owners and builders. There's lots of details under the
> covering, so visiting folks at all stages of building holds as much value
> as seeing completed planes.
>
> Brodhead is highly recommended the weekend before Oshkosh, lots of eye
> candy and knowledgeable folks.
>
> No matter the variant, there's still lots of parts that are the same no
> matter what, so you'll have lots to do while deciding the rest. Like all
> elephants, this one is best eaten one bite at a time!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Tools
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397685#397685
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: New Builder just starting |
Will do thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 4:00 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Builder just starting
>
> Welcome Mike!
>
> Like tools said... get the whole shebang. As others have recently
> mentioned, www.westcoastpiet.com is a great resource too.
>
> Keep us posted!
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on
> Landing Gear
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397690#397690
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I'll be there with Dick all week too.
Ben Charvet
On 4/2/2013 5:09 PM, Dick N wrote:
> Hey all
> I am leaving from St. Paul, Mn. going to Sun n Fun for all of the new
> people on the list since last year stop in at the wood workshop.
> Again the dates of the show this year will be April 9-15.
> We will be building a Pietenpol fuselage, also building wing ribs and
> working on a center section for a Piet. I hope we can meet lots of
> builders there.
> Dick N.
> *
>
>
> *
--
Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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Dick,=0A=0AI work near by, you can give me a call if you need any help when
you are in town.=0A=0ARyan Michalkiewicz=0A863-258-2599=0A=0A=0A__________
______________________=0A From: Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net>=0ATo: piet
enpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:09 PM=0ASubject:
Pietenpol-List: Snf=0A =0A=0A =0AHey all =0AI am leaving from St. Paul, Mn
. going to Sun n Fun =0Afor all of the new people on the list since last ye
ar stop in at the wood =0Aworkshop.- Again the dates of the show this yea
r will be April =0A9-15.=0AWe will be building a Pietenpol fuselage,- =0A
also building wing ribs and working on a center section for a Piet.- I ho
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Subject: | Welcome to Mike Rich from Dallas |
Good to see you on the list Mike and I'm not sure what you're talking about
these fellas being nice and down to earth......they are a
bunch of four-flushers and nudnicks:) ! Seriously, they are a good grou
p of people and very helpful.
We have builders and Piet enthusiasts from all walks of life from retired F
-16 pilots and airline pilots to hang glider pilots and everything
in between. We have the spectrum of engineers, worker bees, and you name
it for career backgrounds and experience. I'm always
amazed at who I meet on the list and when you get to know them you wonder
"gosh....someone who flies 747's wants to build a Pietenpol
for fun flying? Yep. Lots of them and guys like me who have never gone a
ny further than having a simple private pilot license you'll
find here.
Sometimes you get great advice, sometimes you get lousy advice but when the
lousy (or accidentally in error) advice comes up usually
it will be duly noted but generally in a friendly and uplifting way. Somet
imes not but that is the exception.
And Mike.....one word of advice. To understand what is being said sometim
es you have to know quotes from two aviation movies---The
Great Waldo Pepper and Airplane. Things will make more sense when you see
spastic quotes out of nowhere on the list then if you know
these two movies which you prolly already do.
And lastly, when in doubt do it like my Uncle Tony (Bingelis) suggests jus
t to be on the safe side. Before Al Gore invented the Internet I relied
FULLY on what Tony's books told me were sound and good building practices a
nd you just can't go wrong with his advice as far as homebuilt
airplanes go.
Mike C. in Ohio
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Subject: | Re: Welcome to Mike Rich from Dallas |
That's advice well taken Mike, thanks. Hey I had question for you, in
your DVD I didn't see the leather on the turtle deck. Did you add that
to keep from scuffing up the paint getting in and out ?
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:25 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Welcome to Mike Rich from Dallas
Good to see you on the list Mike and I'm not sure what you're talking
about these fellas being nice and down to earth..they are a
bunch of four-flushers and nudnicksJ ! Seriously, they are a good
group of people and very helpful.
We have builders and Piet enthusiasts from all walks of life from
retired F-16 pilots and airline pilots to hang glider pilots and
everything
in between. We have the spectrum of engineers, worker bees, and you
name it for career backgrounds and experience. I'm always
amazed at who I meet on the list and when you get to know them you
wonder "gosh..someone who flies 747's wants to build a Pietenpol
for fun flying? Yep. Lots of them and guys like me who have never
gone any further than having a simple private pilot license you'll
find here.
Sometimes you get great advice, sometimes you get lousy advice but
when the lousy (or accidentally in error) advice comes up usually
it will be duly noted but generally in a friendly and uplifting way.
Sometimes not but that is the exception.
And Mike...one word of advice. To understand what is being said
sometimes you have to know quotes from two aviation movies---The
Great Waldo Pepper and Airplane. Things will make more sense when
you see spastic quotes out of nowhere on the list then if you know
these two movies which you prolly already do.
And lastly, when in doubt do it like my Uncle Tony (Bingelis)
suggests just to be on the safe side. Before Al Gore invented the
Internet I relied
FULLY on what Tony's books told me were sound and good building
practices and you just can't go wrong with his advice as far as
homebuilt
airplanes go.
Mike C. in Ohio
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for that matter, my offer also goes to my other Piet flying friends too.=0A
=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Ryan M <aircamperace@yahoo.
com>=0ATo: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
=0ASent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:58 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Snf
=0A =0A=0ADick,=0A=0AI work near by, you can give me a call if you need any
help when you are in town.=0A=0ARyan Michalkiewicz=0A863-258-2599=0A=0A=0A
________________________________=0A From: Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net>
=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:09 PM
=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Snf=0A =0A=0A =0AHey all =0AI am leaving from S
t. Paul, Mn. going to Sun n Fun =0Afor all of the new people on the list si
nce last year stop in at the wood =0Aworkshop.- Again the dates of the sh
ow this year will be April =0A9-15.=0AWe will be building a Pietenpol fusel
age,- =0Aalso building wing ribs and working on a center section for a Pi
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Subject: | West coast Pieter's |
"Count me IN, even though I ain't got no head gear!"
Ray's going to make us look bad in his Waiex...
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: West coast Pieter's
--> < <mailto:raykrause@frontiernet.net> raykrause@frontiernet.net>
Would this be restricted to Pietenpols only? Mine is not ready, but would
consider going along in my Waiex or Aeronca. Aeronca is NORCO, except
hand-held.
Ray Krause!
SkyScout in progress
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 2, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <
<mailto:Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
> --> < <mailto:Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
>
> Pieter's
>
> How many of you would like to spend some time (one day or more)
barnstorming around central CA after the Hollister gathering? It would be
a fun time for all. I am interested, anyone else???
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> <http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397653#397653>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397653#397653
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | Welcome to Mike Rich from Dallas |
"THESE ARE GOOD PEOPLE, AXEL!!"
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 3:25 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Welcome to Mike Rich from Dallas
Good to see you on the list Mike and I'm not sure what you're talking about
these fellas being nice and down to earth..they are a
bunch of four-flushers and nudnicksJ ! Seriously, they are a good group
of people and very helpful.
We have builders and Piet enthusiasts from all walks of life from retired
F-16 pilots and airline pilots to hang glider pilots and everything
in between. We have the spectrum of engineers, worker bees, and you name
it for career backgrounds and experience. I'm always
amazed at who I meet on the list and when you get to know them you wonder
"gosh..someone who flies 747's wants to build a Pietenpol
for fun flying? Yep. Lots of them and guys like me who have never gone
any further than having a simple private pilot license you'll
find here.
Sometimes you get great advice, sometimes you get lousy advice but when the
lousy (or accidentally in error) advice comes up usually
it will be duly noted but generally in a friendly and uplifting way.
Sometimes not but that is the exception.
And Mike...one word of advice. To understand what is being said sometimes
you have to know quotes from two aviation movies---The
Great Waldo Pepper and Airplane. Things will make more sense when you see
spastic quotes out of nowhere on the list then if you know
these two movies which you prolly already do.
And lastly, when in doubt do it like my Uncle Tony (Bingelis) suggests just
to be on the safe side. Before Al Gore invented the Internet I relied
FULLY on what Tony's books told me were sound and good building practices
and you just can't go wrong with his advice as far as homebuilt
airplanes go.
Mike C. in Ohio
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Thanks, I should have also mensioned Skip Gadd and Dave Aldrich will
also be there.
Thanks
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan M
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Snf
for that matter, my offer also goes to my other Piet flying friends
too.
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From: Ryan M <aircamperace@yahoo.com>
To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Snf
Dick,
I work near by, you can give me a call if you need any help when you
are in town.
Ryan Michalkiewicz
863-258-2599
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From: Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:09 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Snf
Hey all
I am leaving from St. Paul, Mn. going to Sun n Fun for all of the new
people on the list since last year stop in at the wood workshop. Again
the dates of the show this year will be April 9-15.
We will be building a Pietenpol fuselage, also building wing ribs and
working on a center section for a Piet. I hope we can meet lots of
builders there.
Dick N.
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Subject: | Re: West coast Pieter's |
Yeah. I'm looking forward to seeing the waiex again. He did an awesome job
. I'm sure his sky scout will look just as good.
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 2, 2013, at 4:23 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Count me IN, even though I ain't got no head gear!"
>
> Ray's going to make us look bad in his Waiex...
>
> <image001.jpg>
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 10:42 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: West coast Pieter's
>
> --> <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
>
> Would this be restricted to Pietenpols only? Mine is not ready, but woul
d consider going along in my Waiex or Aeronca. Aeronca is NORCO, except han
d-held.
>
> Ray Krause!
>
> SkyScout in progress
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 2, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wr
ote:
>
> > --> <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
> >
> > Pieter's
> >
> > How many of you would like to spend some time (one day or more) barnstor
ming around central CA after the Hollister gathering? It would be a fun ti
me for all. I am interested, anyone else???
> >
> > --------
> > Scott Liefeld
> > Flying N11MS since March 1972
> > Steel Tube
> > C-85-12
> > Wire Wheels
> > Brodhead in 1996
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397653#397653
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>
> http://forums.matronics.com
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
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Subject: | Re: satellite tracking devices |
Hello All - I'm a Newbie to the wonderful world of Pietenpols. I am in the process of purchasing N687MB out of Sarasota. We do the ferry flight on the tail end of Sun-n-Fun back to Culpeper Virginia. I'm no stranger to tail draggers - been flying them for years for fun and in for even more fun at the Flying Circus in Bealeton Virginia (www.flyingcircusairshow.com) I owned a Maule for about 10 years. Gotta tell you - I am excited about my new Piet. I've since learned that there are several Piets in the local area and that I am hoping to hook up with them for the July run to Brodhead.
I've been doing a lot of research on the satellite tracking devices. Out of all them, I like the The Spot Generation 2 (http://www.findmespot.com/en/) the best. It is a little pricey ($99 for the HW; $99 for the annual Service Plan; $50 for real-time tracking). There is a very detailed review on Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/SPOT-Satellite-GPS-Messenger-unit/product-reviews/B002PHRDQU/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1) By S. Brooks "N22Tango" (Central, TEXAS). I spent an hour or so on the phone with Customer Support discussing the review and asking questions. The review was in 2010 and a lot has changed since then. What I walked away with is that the Spot Connect $149 (http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=116) which is a little black box about the size of a MiFi solves most of the complaints about the G2. As added bonus, you have more capabilities as you do everything using a SmartPhone. For me - this is a winning solution. I ordered one and will report back on how it works out. We'll be using it to track the ferry flight from Sarasota to Culpeper on April 15-16.
--------
Jim McWhorter
N687M (New Owner)
Culpeper, VA KCJR
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Subject: | Re: satellite tracking devices |
Welcome Jim! All sorts of Pietenpolers are welcomed here: Builders,
owner/pilots, dreamers....
You bought 'Mr. Sam'?
http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Mr.%20Sam/images/mr_sam.jpg
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fun2av8
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:16 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: satellite tracking devices
<mailto:iflyga@fun2av8.com> iflyga@fun2av8.com>
Hello All - I'm a Newbie to the wonderful world of Pietenpols. I am in the
process of purchasing N687MB out of Sarasota. We do the ferry flight on the
tail end of Sun-n-Fun back to Culpeper Virginia. I'm no stranger to tail
draggers - been flying them for years for fun and in for even more fun at
the Flying Circus in Bealeton Virginia (
<http://www.flyingcircusairshow.com> www.flyingcircusairshow.com) I owned a
Maule for about 10 years. Gotta tell you - I am excited about my new Piet.
I've since learned that there are several Piets in the local area and that I
am hoping to hook up with them for the July run to Brodhead.
I've been doing a lot of research on the satellite tracking devices. Out of
all them, I like the The Spot Generation 2 ( <http://www.findmespot.com/en/>
http://www.findmespot.com/en/) the best. It is a little pricey ($99 for the
HW; $99 for the annual Service Plan; $50 for real-time tracking). There is a
very detailed review on Amazon.com (
<http://www.amazon.com/SPOT-Satellite-GPS-Messenger-unit/product-reviews/B00
2PHRDQU/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1>
http://www.amazon.com/SPOT-Satellite-GPS-Messenger-unit/product-reviews/B002
PHRDQU/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1) By S. Brooks
"N22Tango" (Central, TEXAS). I spent an hour or so on the phone with
Customer Support discussing the review and asking questions. The review was
in 2010 and a lot has changed since then. What I walked away with is that
the Spot Connect $149 ( <http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=116>
http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=116) which is a little black box
about the size of a MiFi solves most of the complaints about the G2. As
added bonus, you have more capabilities as you do everything using a
SmartPhone. For me - this is a winning solution. I ordered one and wi!
ll report back on how it works out. We'll be using it to track the ferry
flight from Sarasota to Culpeper on April 15-16.
--------
Jim McWhorter
N687M (New Owner)
Culpeper, VA KCJR
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Subject: | Re: West coast Pieter's |
Ok, then count me as in, depending on times, etc.
Thank,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 2, 2013, at 10:59 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
>
> Ray,
>
> It's not important what anyone fly's. It is all about the fun in doing it. If
it fly's, it is welcome in my book. Just looking to have some fun and seeing
new airports and people.
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397669#397669
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: New Builder Introduction |
Hey Joe,
I'm a couple hours up the street in Chickamauga GA (near Chatt TN) and have a Piet
(short fuse, one piece wing, a65) built by Dick Navatril. I'm also building
one.
I've got lots of shop resources if you need help (welders, wood working stuff,
machine shop) or just need to borrow or use something, you're more than welcome.
Also have a good Piet trailer (it's 32' long and can be towed safely by anything
with a hitch) if you build a one piece wing.
cell: 423 580 1383
email: n0kkj@yahoo.com
Tools (aka Mike Danford)
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Subject: | Re: What you can accomplish if you just spend some time |
building
I'm assuming that what you've got going on with the starboard side fuselage framing
is the Kerri Ann Price drop-down passenger door mod? Can't imagine what
else all that wood is needed for in that location.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: What you can accomplish if you just spend some time |
building
Yes sir! She saw the door on Charlie Miller's Piet and said "I want a door too!"
(To be said in a slightly pouty, lower lip puckered out voice)
I had already built the side, so I made some quick changes and will cut the top
stringer late in the game...
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Subject: | Re: West coast Pieter's |
Hey guys... Plan a flight to Sierra Skypark, and I'll pick you upand drive you
to see my project, then take you back to the airport to fly to your next stop...
Just a thought. No hurt feelings if it doesn't work or you chose Monterey or
SLO :D
Those places would be fun too...
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Subject: | Re: What you can accomplish if you just spend some time |
buildin
Woo Hoo! Counting the days Vic!
I hope to help with the prep stuff one of these years.... You and the Millers
are great folks!! (Well, Mike too!)
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